Kaplan graduate says degree means "absolutely nothing" 

Kim Ventura Kaplan is regionally accredited though. It's just her program that wasn't accredited. Such a situation isn't uncommon. There are a few state universities in my state that are regionally accredited, but their business programs aren't accredited by AACSB. Ultimately, it's up to the student to do their research before they take on such an expensive and time consuming process.

It sounds to me like the woman in this video didn't take out a loan to pay for the course, she took out a loan to pay for living expenses (food, gasoline etc.). Loan providers wouldn't blink before handing that out.

Kim Ventura i agree with you

Aren't public colleges funded by the state tax, at least in part? Which is why in-state and out-state cost differ One of the reason I believe that colleges are not fully financed by tax is to discourage people from enrolling for a "fling" so to speak. As some major and courses are, to put it politely, not very helpful in job seeking. If something is fully funded by tax, and thus "free" to people who actually wish to take advantage of it, it will be taken advantage, in both the proper way and in all the wrong ways. By always having a personal cost, even if relatively low (public/community tuition are pretty low), people will only take what they actually believe to be useful in some ways.

The for for profit college/trade school industry has very important friends in congress. Usually if the there is a program benefiting any education or heath initiative the "for profit" sector must have a major share in the funding stream or there will be no Republican support and much opposition. Hence these diploma mills flourish.

That used to be a good way to tell but now legitimate schools like Arizona state and John Hopkins have online programs and run TV ads.

Jasmine Spicer Their degrees nowadays are just as worth as the for profit ones

@@ranelgallardo7031 John Hopkins is one of the best schools in the country.

j monte the ones without the ads are the bigger frauds.

Theyre all a scam. You can educate yourself with something called a library

Nurse Brooks Amen. I tell people that all the time. It’s stigmatized, which is such a shame. But it’s awesome. I wouldn’t be graduating with my bachelors this school year if I didn’t go to CC!

Wicky Las lmfao

Yes. Best value for the dollar!

True! I attend community college and I'm a second year now. They've been helping a ton and gives me hopes of graduating and transferring to a nice university.

It’s crazy because you can save so much money and if you get good financial aid you can get a good paying bachelors degree with only 5k of debt or less

idontcare free market

@@barlowvlogs1632 I'm a full blooded capitalist. I disagree that buisness or companies should hide what they sell and offer though.

idontcare it’s on you to do the research, if you get punked it’s only your fault

@@barlowvlogs1632 I agree people should research their purchases, however it shouldn't be fully reliant on the consumer. Like if you went online and bought a couch, and it was around the same price as any other couch, but when you get it you realize it's for a doll house I'm sure you'd be annoyed. Maybe somewhere in small fine print there a disclaimer, but it is purposely hidden. Kaplan College is the same. This video was posted awhile ago, what they did is illegal now a days...at least in my state.

I agree. Don't listen to these idiots who have one brain cell

Word

🤣 and nothing but the truth...

Right.

Pedro Gunderson My state university advertises on TV. Weird.

Lol I always thought the same!

good on u to get fired and be truthful

Justin Keyes be my real life friend Cleveland folk lol🙌

Because you couldn’t pass the test!!👈

i respect your conscience

Do you know much about the NZX Diploma with Kaplan?

Ask me she should have just bought a fake degree , saved all that money there's so many FBI/ Congress People/ teacher's/state employees walking around here with fake degrees

Idk why people think college is supposed to be convenient. I left high school and went straight to college. Brick and mortar schools sit every where. I simply do not understand why people pass up cheap stayed supportef schools, to attend kapplan.

I agree.

1911beauty me neither

@@1911beauty I have to admit this point crossed my mind. I went to a state college in the 1990s where I got my BA. I never really knew anything about for profit schools until much later in life. I don't think I ever heard of them both in high school or after I graduated.Maybe it depends on where you live and what neighborhood you are from. Perhaps people from poor and working class neighborhoods get this info more than middle class people.

Agreed!

its not the schools its peoples misconception people can use these classes and grades to get into a 4 year university thats what its meant 4.

Much safer bet.

Dint know Rachit bichzz culd text Rachit too!!!!

@Coaching With Kelly how much of what you say is true about college pays no taxes and gets all the money?

So I’m currently in a 4 year college, should I be worried?

@Coaching With Kelly citation needed

I agree. A lot of counselors are not doing their jobs.

Just teach your student how to start businesses.... No bullshit college needed. school only teaches you how to work for others ...not how to work for self.... My Black people need to stop falling for the College gimmick

Add to that a few years lost. A few of the best years of your life .

Lawrence Chew The game is rigged!!!

@@Ahoooooooo Well she might have had a wonderful time and best years, everytime ist the right time. You should Just Look Up what you get and where your degree is accepted, Rookie mistake, Bad for her.

Lawrence Chew lol sheesh..

@@JimmyStruthers1000 I am a 70-year old Singaporean. Some 40 years ago, I worked for 10 years to save $10K - only to spend it all for a 4-year BA Hons at the Singapore University. In contrast, 2 of my non-graduate colleagues invested in several properties. The Singapore economy was then taking off! Over their life time they made several millions from properties they bought and sold! Some years after my graduation, I bought my first property but by then property prices have shot up several hundred percents - believe me, I struggled to pay off that 1st mortgage!

David Stout Oh yes; there is a solution; get Congress on it. Maybe call the cops too. Or we can choose to not accept the rip off prices of rhese colleges. Congress is the reason free college is not so free. It allows more grants than loans and puts people in debt for many years. I think college is a wast of time for most people. The result seems to put people in debt more often than a better situation.

David Stout The Department of Education conducts audits to ensure compliance, so you can check out their progress, then write your congressman and any committee Reps if you have concerns.

Alexis Jankowski it seems I’ve seen many of the unaccredited so-called colleges like Capella and Kaplan are always bring investigated by House committees. Unaccredited so-called colleges are little more than “schools” run by scam artists and conmen.

M Detlef Amen. But it shouldn’t have to be that way. I’m 70, and back when, I picked a college from the colleges into which I was accepted ... without ever wondering about accreditation. It sad that society and education have done away with so many ‘sacred’ trusts and values. These so-called “colleges” should be labeled as lower grade trade schools, which, actually, is an insult to the real, legitimate trade schools out there.

David Stout, are you kidding?. It is the corrupt congress who allows these abominations to take place. Our government is a criminal organization in bed with corporate America. Wake up and get your head out of your arse .

Kaplan is regionally accredited.

ерунда сэндвич and no one will question or not recognize a community college degree or credits as they are owned and operated by the state

ерунда сэндвич community college doesn’t offer Bachelors but at most Associates degree.

James Gretsch you can transfer to a four-year school for that and most of them especially the public universities will accept a Associate's degree as credit and in fact in a lot of states, the state run universities have to by law.

chrismc410 yes I did the same thing but I think people are implying here you can get a Bachelors at a city college which you can’t unless things have changed. But yes you do have a good suggestion to get an AA and transfer to a university for the Bachelor.

Erika Seriously, these scamming colleges should be shut down. The government goes after predatory loans, they should go after these businesses too. I don't know how someone can even scam other people like this, or why a bank would hand out a student loan to these phony businesses.

Exactly.

Lobbyists

Erika I just want to say you have beautiful smile. Have a nice day.

Because the politicians who allow it are bigger crooks and thieves than these clowns, who are basically modern day snake oil salesmen

Daniel - I think our points align to some degree with each other.

That makes perfect sense to me. Unfortunately that average American is subject to many LEGAL scams during one's lifetime and this is essentially one of the most damaging.

Exactly, imagine going to Med school and you can't practice medicine or going to law school and you can't write the bar. They can call it an interest of study certificate but definitely not a degree.

But when are people going to talk about 4 year universities that are just as useless and cost 10x as much?

I got a MPH that is CEPH accredited from a for-profit university. They have many program certifications. It depends on the school you choose, do your research.

@@spencergraham-thille9896 Really? That's why spending 4 years at a state university was useless? been employed for 40 years as a electrical engineer thanks to my "useless" university degree

Spencer Graham-Thille guess studying medicine is useless? Guess lawyers, engineers, scientists who need a degree to work all wasted their time. You’re half right tho. Arts degrees are a joke but not professional degrees

*Buys fake diploma for 20 dollars*

U must be Jewish?

@ Matt Frazier, ur actually right. I'm very reckless with money. Honest

Same XD

I am the same way.

Yep! I'm at FSCJ. I really want to hurry into a career cause it seems like my friends who went to schools like this got into a career fast but they're also stuck with a $40,000 loan or more just for attending 8 months at schools like this including Concorde, Virginia College etc.

I know America as bait and switch country.

Take what you've learned, And open your own practice. Forget if it's credited or not.

@@kiara198923 LOL...What university/school names are those? I never heard of it...if you never heard of them...do some research and verify what is their background and if they're acredited before you enroll yourself there...simple...

Right, it's all about the money, not your future.

I did that too. I have my Associate's in Criminal Justice from a community college and will be getting my Bachelor's in Crim Just next month from a online school.....wish me luck......

Good luck!! You e got this!! I started off at community college then transferred to a four year college and got my bachelors then another school to get my masters. You’ve totally got this!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾

@@itoro22 me too!!

I'm damn glad I went to community college.

Agreed

Getting Fs is Dean's list lol

And they all graduate with "honors"!

Well to be fair, 90% of students of Ivy League schools graduate with 4.0 GPAs. Ivy League schools such as Harvard, Yale, etc. are not allowed to fail students.

Roger The major difference is that those schools have less than a 10% acceptance rate.

@@sdlock83 Proof? Cite your sources.

Here's the thing. She can't afford too. I'm almost in the same boat and I can't afford to go to school.

Well said! Have a great day.

Chris Nicula Ask yourself why Kaplan is offering useless degrees in the first place. Students are deliberately sold a dream and therefore have little reason to believe their new degree will not further their career in any way. Meanwhile, Kaplan is offering a degree knowing that the students can’t do anything at all with it once they graduate. Who is the “bad guy” here?

@@RoaringMind if you buy snake oil from a snake oil salesmen, it's your own fault.

@M Detlef Cooks can actually earn quite a bit of money depending on the skill set. If that was her dream, then so what? I get that you're being facetious. I just didn't want you to have too much fun.

Ryan Davidson It's sad but she could have done her research. It doesn't take long to do a little digging. See what others say about the school, etc. She could have avoided this entire debacle.

That’s because they’d rather blame a careless decision over a giant unethical one. I’m not gonna act like she didn’t make a mistake, but people who make money off of taking advantage of others like this University does are the worst kind of people.

It’s the internet, people don’t bother to be nice to one another. They’d rather choose to put them down since they “know better.”

Read 1:41 in and explain what she has to do

5 minutes of research would have saved her years and thousands of dollars. Some people were born to wait tables.

100% . It’s what you make out of it.

These schools sleep with the government. They are safe. The government does not care about the people.

LOL these schools have the department of education by the balls. Specially now

The school doesn't necessarily have to be regionally accredited, but it helps at times like this for sure.

Kaplan is regionally accredited; however, there are other accreditations that are needed for certain professions. It all depends on the state you live in and Kaplan says that numerous times in the catalog and during your first 3 free trial weeks.

Yup, fell victim to DeVry. Filed a Defense Against Repayment, and am not paying them a dime! LIARS!!

Michael Nardoni hello sir im in kansas Missouri and want to do online if possible for forensic science but dont want this problem any advise thanks

Devry is one of the worst out there, a government watchdog group recently sued them and prevailed in litigation, however, the settlement proceeds only applied to undergraduate programs

People need to be smart enough to avoid them.

I got a MPH that is CEPH accredited from a for-profit university. They have many program certifications. It depends on the school you choose, do your research.

There should be a disclaimer about that

@Longster86 Maybe better educate people so they know enough to avoid them.

That’s the thing with accreditations. I went to ITT a decade ago and that was my first question and they said yes “ we are accredited “ but what I didn’t know was they were Nationally accredited, not regionally. What kind of crap is that. They technically didn’t lie, it’s just that National accreditation means nothing, I am so mad

Kaplan buys schools for thier accreds then "rides them out" so they don't have to go thru effort themselves.

Kaplan is regionally accredited, but there are certain accreditations for specific careers that your university has to have for you to have that career in your state.

As a Kaplan student I can tell you that you have no idea what your talking about. That's not how a school gets accreditations.

Whitney Eckert you're *. Jeez you Kaplan "students" are dumb.

lol

I went to community college but was told I would never work in my field without a Bachelor's degree. So I got duped into going to University of Phoenix. Now after $30,000 in debt, I found out my degree means nothing. I still have my Associates degree from Community college but that does not get me a job in my field. They know how to manipulate you out of your money.

lilsparkkles if you don’t mind me asking what’s your field?

Koronswagg 17 in Va all community colleges are accredited by the State and if you have a 3.0 you will be granted into 80% of public colleges and universities in Va. If the school doesn't have accreditation by the state and a physical location DONT GO

Pretty much any state school (both community colleges and actual universities) will be accredited. I mean still do your own due diligence and research, but state schools are typically the best bets to get degrees that actually have pull in real life.

Yeah, there’s nothing wrong with an associates degree, but I would’ve just transferred to a legit university. I’m weary of places like Kaplan and university of Phoenix.

ah yes, be an autodidact!! Best choice ever, learn what you want, when you want. I love it.

There are only a few 2 year schools that provide ACEND accreditation in America. I researched the field before I chose a school. Now the DTR is going to take a Bachelor's degree to take the test in 2025

Cameron Miller lost $16,000 to Carrington College, it sucks so bad!!!

C Miller yeah my dad went through the same thing, horrible what happened

Buddy of mean did ITT tech his degree took him in to the field he loves and he stays with a job in his field

H1B Visa JOB KILLER BIG BUSINESS WANTS !!!

RubberWilbur she said it’s an online school.

RubberWilbur that means there are no classrooms to stand outside of just to be clear

Been there done that, it WORKS LIKE GANGBUSTERS, takes a week or two at the most to get a full refund (was not at Kaplan though)

phil scott Were you the only one? Or were people rallying behind you?

Eduardo you do not need anyone behind you, you DO need a huge sign at 4' x 8' can be folded, it should be well made, but the FRAUD word should be sloppy, done with a big brush, the rest of the lettering first rate professional Readable from 50 feet away. figure 2 hours a day, 11 am to 1 pm to pick up the lunch hour traffic in and out of the building.... it might be that one person picketing a large company has even more impact that many people. the public appreciates the guts, The company ceo will want you GONE at any cost. Then hand out fliers that say, I will be here until I get my money back. if it takes longer than one day. I will stay for 2 days after I get my money back. You WILL get your money back, but do not violate any laws, or be abusive, be very polite, cooperative with the police be very well dressed,

the operative word being "should"

@@suzycreamcheesez4371 um yeah they "should" they'd save themselves a lot in lawsuits.

@@jackocallaghan2786 whos being sued? whos doing the suing?

@@suzycreamcheesez4371 take 2 seconds and Google this and you will find plenty of lawsuits.

@@jackocallaghan2786 uh huh As Metallica says nothing else matters! Aloha!

LOL noticed the same thing.

It was done on purpose as irony lol

E. Null CC nursing programs are easy to get into? Liar

This is an untrue statement. Grand Canyon was disciplined for its students falling below taking the nursing exam 2 years in a row. They got the lowest firm of discipline, which is a warning to get their act straight. They did, indeed, so just that. GCU is now expanding its nursing program and they have been renewed for academic accreditation (which they were never in jeopardy with) as of last year. Matter of fact, most of their programs have gone under huge renovations to exceed the demands of accreditation. For your reading pleasure... www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/04/09/grand-canyon-universitys-rn-program-disciplined-state-nursing-board/99695092/

SecondLifeDesigner The government will never be able to pass enough laws to protect people from their own stupidity. If you're willing to waste so much time and money pursuing a degree without bothering to do any research, you deserve everything that comes to you.

Dance Electric She wasn't ripped off. She got received everything she paid for.

Dance Electric The degree isn't worthless. It's regionally accredited, just like every other degree from any major university. It's up to the student to decide which program is best to fill the requirements of the career they want to pursue.

Because there are more to a degree then accreditation. Especially if you wish to be self-employed in some technical skill centered field, you don't need accreditation at all, you just need the actual skill. And then some employers are nice enough to give interview to people w/o accreditation, as that does not necessarily indicate whether the person have the actual skill and knowledge. And offering accredited courses tend to cost more than offering courses w/o them, so what ends up happening is people who need the skill but not the accreditation end up paying more for what they don't actually need. There is nothing wrong, for example, for a housewife to take a few nutritionist courses to better take care of her kids, without ever planning to seek a job in the field. Why should she pay for the bureaucratic overhead because some other people are incapable of doing proper research? Now, I do agree SOME courses should require accreditation. Say serious medical studies. But then we get into the murky water of who decide which courses needs it. So in practice, it's unlikely to be a thing. Edit: to be clear, I have been a victim of poor research myself. So I can sympathize with the confusion of researching school subject matter. It's a bit of a complicated story so I won't go there. But still, the "masses" should not be punished for the mistake of the few.

So with Dietetics/Nutritional sciences it's pretty clearly spelled out(hi this is my field) that you have to go through an accredited school to become an RDN or registered dietitian nutritionist. Once you do that you have to do an ACEND accredited internship and then pass an exam to become an RDN and receive your license to practice. That's generally how to do it nationally, state registration and legislation varies from State to state. Because dietetics is constantly evolving they want all dietitians to have the same knowledge base but it's a four year program so how do you do that? You make the schools be accredited by the people who certify the practicioners. So why isn't this law? Well if you've taken a chemistry course in college chances are you heard about the American chemical society and you took their test at the end of the semester. Well that's kinda like common core for colleges. The colleges go to board and say "you know about this shit how do we level this playing field?" So then the colleges and ACS or what have you work together to make the curriculum so everyone has the same basic chemistry knowledge to go towards higher education. It's not a law because it's something the college sets up with a notable agency. And schools don't have to teach based on these standards because it's higher education.

aid not aide.

I believe there are bank loans given out for these types of things as well, government may not give you a loan but a bank will

It's not that the school is non accredited. It's that they offer programs that are not accredited by the governing body. Please note the difference

Kaplan is regionally accredited. That is why she got student loans. The dietitian program doesn’t have the separate accreditation required for licensure.

jw11432 how many high school graduates were never taught or just completely forget what accredited means. If you don't know it's a thing, how can you look for it.

jw11432 people want the fast way. But in the end you end up paying so much more. $40000 for something that means absolutely nothing

Starr_Shine I would just go the regular university/college route

jw1143

They prey on lowincome people. You see a lot of these for profit schools being pushed in lower income areas as a way out. Its sad

sad but true most college grads don't end up working in the field they went to school for. most companies just want a degree and don't care what it's in.

I get that its important to encourage people to research, but you gotta realize these groups are shady, stocked full of salespeople, and will lie if they can get away with it. What we really need is a government that stands up to this, and given trump u being one of these bs “colleges” i doubt it.

Tim Whinet She probably majored in gender studies

Hell, this is all the research I need to do. This confirms what I always believed. All these little universities that pop up on commercials during the day and pop up on your computer while you're working on the internet or just trying to steal your money. It's not real. No one is going to acknowledge that fake degree they're going to give you. But they are going to take your money. And then I'm going to tell you that they can't give it back. Your money or your time. I knew they were Crooks all along. I figured as much. I feel so bad. My stomach keeps dropping the more she speaks.

Susie English I got my Associates in Medical Office Management.. 2014. Still not working in that field.

It doesn't exist anymore. It was bought by Purdue and turned from for-profit to not-for-profit.

Now it is called Perdue Global.

Erick Nava Idiot DeVos just reinstated them.

okay, so they're even worse than a diploma mill in that case.

Very good point ! All accredited schools are in for big money too. Just look at their football programs. And how they arrange the classes so that it will take you longer to graduate.

op 14 this is not about race. There are criminals from all races and walk of life.

Gordon Torney very true, but the chances are better depending on the path you take

op 14 honey, you have made an assumption about me, and i am guessing is because of my name. Dont let a name fool you. This is a small shrinking world. I have the dna, experience and longevity to "know better" not to generalize. Cuídate

Regina Polo Public state schools are the cheapest and best way to go. Community colleges are public but only offer 2 year degrees, which are useless nowadays. It's better to go to a 4 year public school. My schools have been within the City University of New York. I received a great education and have no debt.

Disagree. I make the same if not more than people with my degree I got at a community college then those from a university. People are paying for "the college experience". Total rip offs

Melissa Caraballo beautiful idea! 👏😀

I would watch a doc about this!

Melissa, I wish she could read your comment, because the idea is a good one. She could inform others, and hopefully, help pay back that hideous loan. I feel so bad for her.

Very VERY good advice.

EXTREMELY good advice.

This sounds like a lie, I went to a for profit school and did my clinicals at a Veterans Affair hospital and multiple hospitals around my area..

4 year colleges are just as bad.

@@spencergraham-thille9896 4 year colleges are actually recognized in the job market though.

bullshit, the EU would: take more of your wage in taxes, import islamic men

Robert Williams You sound like someone who doesn't own a passport and has probably never left the US before

Spot on truth. I'd say America is much closer to a con than curious actually.

Shoulders of Giants No they would not. But they are all required to clearly disclose if they are accredited. Not a footnote on page 110. Some people still choose to go there and that is fine if it is just for your own curiosity. And pricing reflects that as do the courses. Home welding, €600, 2 days instruction. Flower arrangements, €400, 2 days, not including materials. Compared to something accredited, statistical analysis, 2 years, 1130 something hours, fully accredited, €10K, not including software and computerpurchases. I did sewing because I wanted to make my own jeans but stupid me, it does not take a genius to figure out you cannot learn that in 3 days. Still got a nice introduction.

Bob Charley how so? what he said is fact. this is what the EU is openly and proudly doing. does it hurt your feelings or something? keep kidding yourself, bud.

Good job. I didn’t know these colleges were fake. Actually I never looked it up. It’s pretty sad they do this to people.

Not Accredited =/= Fake

Tessie Dobey I’m a Temple alumnus 👏🏽👏🏽🎉🎉🦉🦉🦉

Tessie Dobey Yeah and then you went to Temple. You didn't stay because the other school was bs. You decided to go to a legit school after.

How many credits did Temple accept?

I joined the Navy and it made me regret not joining the Air Force 😂

@@directorbeau same here! Lol "it could always be worse"

And you got a GI Bill for college or vocational school after your service. Good decision!

@@directorbeau I did 20 in the Navy. I now work on an AF base and I wondered the same thing LOL

And the Navy I'm sure gave you an excellent "real life" education. Am I right? Hopefully you used your G.I.Bill money for a real college.

Bro she can’t sue

Why? Because she's too dumb to know how college accreditation works.

Mandalorian Gaming: Because they advertised as a full and accredited college that would supply students with degrees. Its false advertising to an extent, so Bro might be right.

It's all based on terms of agreement. It's like that dude that advertised donation to Trump, people donated 20 Million dollars. But the money was for him, not Trump. Then legal experts looked into the terms of agreement, found out he specifically says that none of the donations are for the Trump campaign. All the money was donated to the individual. So legally can't do nothing because Terms of Agreement are a base of Contract. Similar it's Facebook apps, it specifically says it will collect all of your data. From contacts, to Google search, to your text message. It's the price of using the app, ones accepted, even if you delete the apps. They still will collect and analyse all of your life.

Yeah and then the blood sucking lawyers finish you off... they'll make Kaplan debt look like small peanuts. Everybody thinks lawyers are on your side, news flash: *THEY'RE NOT!* Lawyers are some of the most low down pos scammers, I hate lawyers. I celebrate when a lawyer gets his or her ass kicked by a client.

How is full sail a scam?

It’s not a scam everyone thinks that because it’s very expensive because it’s so good they have an actual university it’s not all just online courses lol

The name "FULL SAIL" for a university sounds scamish.

Full Sail is not a scam. It is, however, an industry school that chooses to keep national accreditation rather than regional accreditation so that they have better control over their courses (hence it being a better industry school -- ie an entertainment industry school). The upside of that is that graduates do extremely well moving directly from the school into the entertainment industry (especially music and film), but the downside is that without the regional accreditation, the classes are more difficult to transfer to other universities (such as the University of Florida). But, in reality, as a former student who holds a Masters in Creative Writing (specializing in screenwriting) from them, I NEVER knew any student whose aim was to go from Full Sail to another University -- that's rather pointless, really. Students goals are to get into the industry. It isn't a school for everyone. It is accelerated and quite challenging, but if your goal is to know how to work in the industry and you aren't there to have a "college life" experience, it will definitely give you what you want if you are willing to work for it. It is expensive for sure, but you sure as hell get trained on all the latest industry equipment and software and are even equipped with whatever you need for your major, so the expense really is understandable. From what I've seen, the people who complain about the school have been people who have dropped out because it was too difficult, it wasn't what they were expecting, they didn't have time to party, and they weren't willing to put in the hard work required to graduate and actually fight for jobs in the industry. Nothing is handed to you, you really have to work, but they prepare you extremely well. As for the rather silly (for a university) sounding name, the school was originally (way back in the day) just a music industry school, not a university, but the name stayed the same -- the idea being "moving full sail ahead". I like that it isn't your run of the mill university. Like I said, industry school. I will probably die still paying off my loan, but I don't regret having been a student there. Oh, did I mention this rather amazing feature they have where you can come back and retake any class you took in your major again for free -- for life. Doesn't sound that important for a "regular" university, but when you need to keep your skills sharp in the entertainment industry, or you are working with software that is constantly upgrading, its value is immeasurable. So yeah, I would say is no scam. And if you don't believe me, just google how many of its graduates have won Oscars for film scoring and special effects. :)

@@margaretsmith756 gtfoh. Either your an undercover employee or an idiot. How about besides all that fluff you place the link to their job placement rates and average salary of their graduates and compare that to their outrageous priced tuition. I know u don't have a link because unlike other universities they don't provide that information.

And single moms

Actually, many veterans go to these schools. Not to mention working class individuals with families who are just trying to make a better life for themselves.

Basically yes, also losers, desperate single Mom's, recovering substance abusers, ....really anyone that missed the boat the first couple of times and now is looking for a "quick fix" for their life.

You know jim crow ended right? Lol

The fuck this dude bringing race up for lmfao! I swear it’s in every comment section of every RU-vid video that exists. By the way the fact that Asians get points taken off their SAT scores and black get points put on theirs for no reason is racist as fuck. Whites are being turned away from spots in college no matter how good their grades were to make way for a black with shit grades who got points added onto to their SAT that they didn’t earn themselves......

XxViktorijaxX fuck you too, nice rant but racism here in the US no is no where near it used to be. So quit fuckin cryin there isnt lynch mobs goin around and i dont know about you but ive never seen a blacks, whites, or mexican sign only in the states. So quietly stfu

Dano Reealyy lol. 1. Never said fuck you. I said what “the fuck this dude bringing up race for” because it had nothing to do with anything. 2. No one is crying, I’m laughing at you. 3. I agree racism used to be much much worse. 4. You’re an idiot if you can talk about racism but as soon as someone else has facts about it you can’t handle it and feel the need to tell them to shut the fuck up. Lmfao. Go put your black lives matter shirt on and sit with the other losers like you.

XxViktorijaxX lmao you are a special kind of stupid as well. Your assumin i am pro black lives matter. Lol im a conservative and voted to trump. So quit tryin to act like you know somethin other people dont. Biiish

Owen Brady Kaplan is regionally accredited, just like every other major university. Some licensing boards require you to attend programs that are accreditated by industry-specific bodies. Kaplan's nutrition program didn't meet this criteria. The degree isn't completely worthless, though it was significantly overpriced. The regional accreditation allows her to take it to any university and apply for graduate school, something she'd have to do for a career in nutrition anyway.

Knowledge.

Dance Electric Unfortunately, the US government will give a student loan to anyone. She'll still eligible for loans to go to grad school as long as she stays current on her current loans. Hopefully she puts more thought and research into her future endeavors.

I think most schools, any except the most prominent, would probational accept an in-state student w/ a non-accredited degree. Because if, despite the lack of credits, the student can actually perform, it's all fine and dandy. If not, they can always kick the student out after the first semester or year. Thou even for the probational acceptation, they are usually required to get some recommendation letter and maybe take some test to get in, so a bit more hoops than regular students. I mean I got probational acceptance into my masters with shit grades from my undergrad study (accredited thou), just had to jump a few hoops. I'm sure a good grade in unaccredited will have more or less the same pull, as long as it's not a literally bought diploma. I'm sure that most school are aware of Kaplan's situation, in that it's not a complete scam in that they actually teach something despite all its other faults.

Just Anoman On the contrary, her degree is accredited by the southern regional accrediting authority. Her particular program isn't accredited by the national authority that accredits nutritional programs. To get into grad school, they only require that the undergrad degree come from a university that is regionally accredited at the time you attended.

Not true at all. I made sure my school was accredited.

nickkingofearth nope, the folks they are advertising to are too busy working cappy jobs to have time to know, and the sales people (recruiters) are very smooth and dishonest. I had a chance to look at a for profit college when I was younger and it was scary, fortunately I had enough life experience to know what i was looking at and run.

nickkingofearth I didn't know this about Heald College (another for profit college). They bedazzle you with some pretty brochures and some compelling statistics (all of which turned out to be fake of course).

nickkingofearth Well they know now. This is from 2015.

nickkingofearth damn I tell you what's not a joke. Your sexy profile Pic.

it's not common knowledge. the first "college" I went to was ITT Tech. I didn't know that ITT Tech's degrees were worthless and it was $40,000 ($40k) for just an associates degree. In my understanding, I thought that, because it was $40k, it must've been a really good school considering how expensive it was and how it had people from their respective industry giving lessons there... Not only that, I didn't know that the United States allowed for businesses to make their own colleges, for profit! I thought ITT Tech was a sort of private trade school and I've always heard about how private schools usually had successful students. Not only that, I didn't know that the U.S. Government allowed giving money to for-profit colleges to when it came to student loans. (my loan was government financial aid). I saved my own ass because, just for kicks, I decided to look up reviews on ITT Tech and found a massive ton of horror stories where people graduated there but couldn't find a job because the employers considered ITT Tech degrees as a joke and these people were $40k to $80k in debt (bachelors is another $40k). I dropped out from there and didn't look back. I was very lucky considering that I was only $10k in debt let alone $40k-$80k in debt...

Yes

Nice profile pic

Charles McFarlane do you like mine too?

Matt Storms it's not cute to beg for attention, down boy.

... Not all community colleges are accredited. The hole point of her story is that you should do your research not just assume something. Assuming makes a ass out of you and me.

JC Sunderland you made the most logical sense of all comments I love you whoever you are

JC Sunderland but she can’t work as a dietitian legally

Not everybody has it in them to hustle that hard for a business. Most people just want to work and get paid by a company

@@learnteach2learn729 you are right when I get my counseling degree I went to the Federal government to get a job and he said you have to have this certification with your degree, I said well the state of Texas says I don't so I'll just get my licensure and I'll move on with life and I'm doing great. And guess what news flash the federal government still uses my services

Seriously? After all this you really think she's on the ball with ANYTHING?

That's how I know they're just trying to sell to make money, not for teaching. I do the same for corporations (sometimes I have to source parts). If they don't have information on their website, and instead they say to contact them for the information (or sign up with email, etc..), I leave. No business for you! :)

Just be careful there are a lot of for-profit institutions like Kaplan. Make sure where ever you go, the program is nationally accreddited. I'm transferring into engineering school, and most employers won't take degrees from non-ABET accredited schools. Some of these schools are Devry, Globe, Everest, ITT tech... Ect. Any public tech school will offer these degrees for much cheaper. They also love to prey on vetrerans for their GI bills.

Agreed, I have 4 degrees and can't earn enough to be sane. I don't blame anyone but myself. I should have known better.

i dropped out of college but i dont have any debt. no degrees but no regrets either

It's not a random dude that can trick you by hidding from the law and get money out of you and then disappear.It's an OFFICIAL fraud that is going on and govertment allowes it.Laws suppose to protect people from these kind of shit because not all people can protect themselves.

IMHO, if they don't plan ahead first, maybe they shouldn't be going to college to begin with. XD

Bingo. Every time I hear how someone was sold on this... that is the question which I ask. You have a great program... fine. Takes about five minutes to look up Department of Labor statistics, five more to look up pay scales, another five minutes to look up various groups dealing with nutrition education and ask what they think about it, an couple of days to send emails to some nutritionists or companies which deal with nutrition. And of course you can simply ask the college for things such as graduation rates, lists of former graduates as references, student/alumni societies, companies who recruit at their campuses, etc., etc. And of course... does any real degree good for actual jobs come online? How are you possibly going to learn about nutrition without serious chemistry and biology classes? With real labs? Seeing actual people?

+David Oldenburg I agree that she should be proud of herself. I finished my bachelor's degree in Nursing through Kaplan 4 years ago. My husband passed away and I couldn't go to school full-time, raise my children, and work. I've had no trouble with my degree from Kaplan but I am happy now that Purdue has acquired them because I have been thinking about completing my Master's.

heidilynn s Glad to hear that Purdue has accepted your Kaplan credits and you're going for your Master's. You go girl. I think the Sara Pierce should see what courses can be accepted as credit at another institution. Perhaps even taking an equivalency exam if they are willing to offer it. She may need to do a year or less.

+DavidOldenburg oh no this whole interview sounds like a setup. College isn't worth it at all. Kaplan and Itt are out of business.

She isn’t going to sleep with you

heidilynn s you give me so much hope. Bless you and your kids❤️. May your hubby Rest In Peace

Larry B this isa great suggestion

Awesome idea!!!

Yeah if what she learned was at least relevant she may be able to take a challenge exam for courses.

I went to a shitty for profit university for my associates degree and was on the deans list and when I tried to go to a real university to get my bachelors they said I would basically have to test out of the lower level classes but I would still have to make the credits up so it would be doing a full four year program all over again.

But don't you think it's because of your Bachelor's Degree that your employer wanted to take a chance on you? Try not listing your degree (related or not) and getting a similar tech job. Then see how long it takes to get a call back.

Its cause you made a smart decision to do something reasonable unlike other people

Please tell us please

Stephanie C exactly. I say the same thing. Take that same 2 year tech degree without that bachelors and see who picks you up and for how much

Keisha Jones I paid $100,000 for a bachelors in design. Made $14/hour until I got an AA in nursing at a community college. I know it’s not the same as the other person’s tech example, but it does happen. The highest paying nursing jobs (hospital) didn’t require my bachelors.

She does not need another bachelors. Kaplan is a fully regionally accredited university, but their nutrition program is not AND accredited, and yes, they should have told her that. However, I would not call her education totally worthless. She could now go to an AND accredited Master's program online. She can also get a Master's in Public Health and work with that. Marion Nestle is a good example. She can also still work as a health coach in a Physician's clinic. Also, things are changing. Many states are recognizing that the AND should not have a strangle-hold on nutrition education as many universities are offering BA' and MA's in nutrition that are as good or, many times, better than AND accredited programs. Soon nutritionists with other good credentials will be able to have more opportunities to practice. The AND is food industry-funded anyway.

@@lindanedderman-eaton3826 thanks for the clarification! If she wants to become an RD she'll have to have her credits transferred over and perhaps enroll in a coordinated program!! There are some out there that can combine the Masters and internship, but I also get what you're saying! They're are many routes she can take and hopefully her degree will help her land atleast SOMETHING in the future. Many states require your to become licensed to practice Nutrition, but they're are jobs that can give her a chance, such as insurance sales (alot of insurance companies will take people who have degrees in nutrition) and also WIC will take people who have a Nutrition degree aswell. Best of luck to her!!

texan903 agreed that is the way most people should go, unless if they are from a rich family that can afford Private schools and ivy leagues

Someone in this lady's predicament would most likely take out excessive loans for a private or Ivy League education.

texan903, yah that's true. However, I think Ivy Leagues and Private Schools (Stanford, Johns Hopkins, and schools like that) are not necessarily better than what you mentioned earlier. For instance, if I was in Texas like you, what I would do is go to a Community College for 2 years, then transfer to either UT Austin, UT Dallas or some other UT school or Texas A&M.

Ivies and private universities are for those who are part of the elite, want an education to help maintain their contacts and gain career security. The students who attend those schools are usually from legacy families, and those who have donated significant funds. Outside of that, those schools offer those from the lower and middle classes the opportunity to elevate themselves to upper middle class and even a pathway to the elite.

texan903 that's true my friend

The school and their employees all lie and say their courses and degrees are accredited & approved. This was 10 years ago and there wasn’t information challenging them back then.

Big mistake!

TheBachelorette10 Good thing you found this video. So many schools out there prey on innocent people. It's so unethical and wrong.

TheBachelorette10 I almost went to that school myself. Im glad that I didn't

Go to community college super cheap, accredited and usually has connection with local community.

TheBachelorette10 I hope you're attending a community college now

Acid Plug most are accredited this college is a scam

But the black guy who screams at me on t.v. about everest seems so legit

So fucking easy to armchair judge shit with common 2018 knowledge as though you'd never make this kind of mistake. My wife got an online degree and they said they would get accredited and then didn't. Then they got sued but we never saw any of that money. It's not always black and white. This was back in 2010 and we still owe 6 figures for that shit. Easy to judge it when you don't go through it yourself.

Same I’m 60K in debt for the past 6 years

RandomVideoCircus portfolio for what??

Not everyone is willing to drop to their knees.

That's not what this video is about

arielfrombgc YEA it took a weird turn there...

RandomVideoCircus wtf!!!!!

Inteligence, this only happens to dumb asses.

@Johnny Tramain I know it's a "legally binding agreement" but one side offered bad goods. You shouldn't be able to get rich like this. They offered a bad product. It's like financing fake gold. It's fake! Period.

All that hard work? She couldn't even read the catalog that's right there on our student portal! She's lying!

Liza Delacruz I’m going to finish the semester and transfer back to Capella.

Liza Delacruz they thirsty fo money yo

Pauline Roberts I thought Capella was a scam school

Please do not attend a for profit school. There is way to much info online for you to waste your money.

Liza Delacruz @Liza Come back! Baaaaaaack! Lol.

This information want available ten years ago.