The arts of Japanese karate and Korean taekwondo share some common roots. In this video we talk about how each came about and how they are practiced today.
I wasn't expecting such an in-depth history lesson when I clicked on this but was pleasantly surprised. Thanks for doing all the research so I don't have to!
My wife and I are in the colour photo at Shuri Castle. It was taken in August of 2019 as part of the Tookachi celebration for Sekichi Iha, Hanshi. He is the Grandmaster of Beikoku Shidokan Karate. This was to recreate the B&W photo which featured his sensei Shinpan Gusukuma who led a demostration at Shuri Castle in 1938. Iha sensei is Gusukuma Sensei's last surviving student. At the age of 90 he still trains and teaches.
They both have their place and they both compliment each other if you learn both disciplines.. growing up I never distinguished between them seeing them as essentially the same with just differing philosophies.. karaye focusing more on power and taekwondo on speed and accuracy as you stated.. learning both allowed me to transition between these states of being confusing my opponents with my ever changing tempo
Karate focousing on accuracy just as much. If you compare kata presentation I would say even more. TKD poomse often look a bit sloppy. But TKD has a much greater emphasis on kicks.
@@Gieszkanne agree in some regard, but I would say Karate it sharper but while TKD is looser I would argue its still slightly more accurate. Karate drive their power, while TKD is like a ball and chain or a flick of a tea towell. Yes Karate does both methods, and so do TKD. But each one put a greater emphasis on one being preference over the other. They are both different translations of essentially the same art and both in combination produce awesome students
Gichin Funakoshi is the father of Shotokan karate. He was invited by the Japanese government to teach karate in Japan in 1922. Karate existed in Okinawa long before that.
Nailed it buddy! Actually basic techniques in both shotokan and modern taekwondo are almost identical. I found its the the way of training that is the difference that results in a different development.
Karate is a sport that includes speed and accuracy, and it has a technique in the hand and the leg. As for the sport of Taekwondo, it depends on the use of the two legs more, and it cannot deal accurately with the karate players. But both methods are excellent ❤😊
Nah man. Accuracy and speed in TKD is priority you know. Besides, its time for people to start to understand that WTF is the one holding back TKD's potential, we cant use ITF which is more practical and uses punches more, like kickboxing
This is probably the most accurate history. Before Japanese occupation, Korea had two form of martial arts. Ssirum and Taekkyeon. Taekkyon is primarily kicks. Japan tried to erase Korean culture and forbid Taekkyon masters from teaching it and if they wanted to continue, they had to teach Karate. So Karate format such as dojo and belt system was adapted but they still emphasized kicks. Which is why Taekwondo kicks are similar to Taekkyeon kicks. Karate used to be mostly hands and front kicks only. They didn't have spinning kicks or roundhouse kicks back then.
And we all know about the UFC GOAT, Georges St. Pierre, and his Karate background. The man was able to out strike the best strikers and out wrestle some of the most dominant and decorated wrestlers in his division at the time. You won't find anybody else dominating wrestlers with no wrestling background the way he did, these days. Not to mention coming back after 4 years only to move up a weight class to challenge the 185lb champ, "The Count" Michael Bisping, beat him in dominating fashion, and win the Middleweight title. GSP could literally do it all
as basic information, Tae Kwondo is divided into 2 streams, namely the first ITF and the second WTF - Kukkiwon.. ITF is the origin of the original flow of Tae Kwondo.. But Te Kwondo is actually Korean Karate which is called Tang Soo Do and combined with martial arts that developed in Korea both from Japanese and traditional influences as well as Chinese martial arts, such as Taekkyeon, Soo Bhak Do, Hapkido, Hwa Rang Do, Kuk Sul Won and so on which were then united and nationalized in 1950 by General Choi Hon Hi under the ITF. which later developed into KTA and WTF in the 1970s.. you need to know Tae Kwondo itself is a development of Tang Soo Do -Korean Karate in which practitioners, instructors and students are Korean citizens who study in Japan. and Tang Soo Do - Tae Kwondo is actually a Shotokan Karate style. So it's no wonder there are many similarities in Movement in Tul, Poomsae, Tae Geuk, Hyeong, Dongjak/Basic between Tae Kwondo and Tang Soo Do with Karate especially Shotokan.. these are the 9 Kwans which pioneer of Tae Kwondo. Song Moo Kwan(송무관) - first of the original kwans, founded in Kaesong on March 20,1944 by Ro Byung Jik(노병직), who had studied karate under Gichin Funakoshi along with Chung Do Kwan founder Lee Won Kuk in Japan. Chung Do Kwan(청도관) - second kwan dojang in Korea founded in September, 1944 by Lee Won Kuk(이원국). He studied Taekkyeon in Seoul, He also studied Shotokan Karate in Japan, Kung Fu in Henan and Shanghai in China, and other.[ Moo Duk Kwan(무덕관) - was founded in 1945 by Hwang Kee(황기) teaching Hwa Soo Do. Hwang studied Taekkyon, T'ai chi and some types of Kung Fu in China. His first two attempts at running a school of Hwa Soo Do were unsuccessful. After 1946, realizing that most Koreans were unfamiliar with the Chinese-based arts he was teaching, he incorporated the more familiar, Japanese influenced, Tang Soo Do into his curriculum. By 1953 and onward until 1960, the Moo Duk Kwan had risen to become biggest martial arts organization in Korea, with close to 75% of all martial artists in Korea practicing Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan. In 1957, Hwang made a discovery of Soo Bahk(수박), a traditional Korean martial art from Muyedobotongji(무예도보통지). In 1960, the Korean Soo Bahk Do (수박도) Association was incorporated and officially registered with the Korean government as the traditional Korean martial art. The following year, the Moo Duk Kwan Soo Bahk Do discipline was recognized internationally for the first time. Ji Do Kwan(지도관) - Chosun Yun Mu Kwan Kong Soo Do Club (조선연무관 공수도부, Chosun Yun Mu Kwan had been the original Japanese Kodokan Judo school in Korea for over 30 years previously) founded March 3, 1946 by Chun Sang Sup(전상섭), who had studied Shotokan karate with Gichin Funakoshi in Japan, and later called his art 'Kong Soo Do(공수도)'. He had a very close relationship with Yoon Byung-In, founder of YMCA Kwon Bop Club. Chun and Yoon would travel to train with other martial artists, sometimes traveling to Manchuria. They trained with each other so much that they became known as brothers. Chun went missing during the Korean War; subsequently, this kwan voted to change its name to 'Jidokwan'. After Chun disappeared in Korean War, the original students of Chun voted Master Yoon Kwe-byung(윤쾌병, Trained Chuan Fa in Manchuria) as Jidokwan 1st President. Chang Moo Kwan(창무관) - YMCA Kwon Bop Club(YMCA 권법부) founded in 1946 by Yoon Byung-in(윤병인), who had studied Chinese Kung Fu (Quan fa). When he studied in Nihon University, he trained Shudokan karate under grandmaster Kanken Tōyama.[ Unlike other taekwondo kwans, early Chang Moo Kwan was mainly based on Chinese Kung Fu (Quan-fa). The early Chang Moo Kwan taught Palgi kwon(팔기권) (which influenced by Bajiquan).[ Yoon went missing during the Korean War. His teachings were carried on by his top student Lee Nam Suk, who changed the name of the school to Chang Moo Kwan. 10th Dan Grandmaster Soon Bae Kim is one of two Kukkiwon 10th Dans in charge of Kukkiwon testing. Han Moo Kwan(한무관) - founded in August 1954 by Lee Kyo Yoon as an offshoot of the Yun Moo Kwan/Jidokwan. Oh Do Kwan(오도관) - founded in 1955 by Choi Hong Hi, who also became honorary head of the Chung Do Kwan. Top instructors were Nam Tae Hi and Han Cha Kyo. Kang Duk Won(강덕원) - founded in 1956 by Park Chul Hee and Hong Jong Pyo as an offshoot of the Kwon Bop Bu/Chang Moo Kwan. Jung Do Kwan(정도관) - founded in 1956 by Lee Yong Woo (died August, 2006) as an offshoot of the Chung Do Kwan. The Kwans united in 1955 as Tae Soo Do. In the beginning of 1957, the name Taekwondo was adopted by several Korean martial arts masters, for its similarity to the name Tae Kyon. General Choi established ITF-Taekwondo (which practices a more traditional form of taekwondo) while WTF-Taekwondo (which has a strong emphasis on sparring) became an Olympic sport in 2000. A goodwill trip to North-Korea in 1966 caused General Choi to fall in disgrace in the eyes of the South-Koreans. Choi resigned as president of the K.T.A. and founded the I.T.F. on March, the 22nd of that same year. The headquarters of ITF was established in Canada. ITF started concentrating on the forms developed by General Choi, while the KTA (which later, on May 28, 1973, became the WTF) concentrated on the Palgwe’s. Later the WTF abandoned the Palgwe’s and started concentrating on Taeguks. Slowly, the WTF emphasis turned to sparring. This is also the reason why a lot of people call (WTF) Taekwondo a ‘Martial Sport’ rather than a ‘Martial Art’.
Many Tae Kwon Do students joined my Hung Gar (tiger/crane) kung fu school, to improve their hands. I assume that others took up boxing. They offered to show their kicking, but old school Hung Gar students, preferred low kicks. The school's head instructor (professor Ho), was formerly a 2nd dan under Kanazawa.
Joe Rogan attributes his insanely powerful spinning back kick mainly to his background in Taekwondo/point fighting, along with his training in kickboxing later in his life
Traditional Okinawan karate includes weapons such as the bo, sai, tonfa, nunchaku, eiku, tinbe and rochin, and tekko, but these weapons were almost eliminated when it was introduced to Japan. The weapons of the Turtles, except for Raphael, are weapons of Okinawan. Maybe even the turtles shell.
Well now I still no not know if Karate or Taekwondo fits better for me. The only thing you sayed about that was that you have strong punches in Karate and speed in Taekwondo.
Exactly wish I should have had stayed in karate but learning taekwondo is actually pretty good too I just wish that taekwondo had more of their hand techniques a mostly more time on their leg techniques is well they could have had them both like karate is also pretty good too I wish I could have had one of them all including more of the martial arts styles including Kung Fu judo hapkido aikido and much much more nevertheless your videos are pretty cool brother for a taekwondo practitioner yourself you really are pretty good do you even use a weapon in taekwondo what's your favorite weapon exactly because I really wish I could have stayed in my original class they also had the swords and all that other type of stuff but I really wish I could have stayed in 2011 that would have been better and I would have had more time on it if I had just gotten up it would have been the best studying karate in all types of forms of martial arts it's how you use it the counts and how you make it work that makes it all the better 🥋👊💪😉👍👊🥋
BJJ used to be one martial art with Judo though. it was more of a complete martial art then. still not a striking art but a grappling style that utilised a lot of throws, chokes and submissions
By that reasoning Karate could be considered a form of Fujian Gōngfu, or heck, even wrestling, given the influence of Tegumi in its early development, despite being all but absent in modern Karate. But why stop there? No martial art develops in complete isolation.
Matt has done a superlative job in his research and presentation. I was one of the 1st persons to learn Moo Du Kwan Tang Soo Do in the USA & began in 1960. Later, I trained in Kang Do Kwan Tae Kwon Do . I had the honor of meeting the founders of both Kwans. In 1964, I founded the Univ. of Michigan Tang Soo Do Club, which later became the UM Tae Kwon Do Club. This history gives a reasonable background to evaluate his video. I have never met Matt, but he has my respect. Matt - keep up the good work!!
I started as a kid with shotokan karate but I had a terrible teacher which made me drop martial arts for around 22 years. Then I picked up boxing and fell in love with it, while adding taekwondo to work on my legs some more. Taekwondo is a bit too similar to karate for my taste, but the difference is clear- keeping distance, looking for openings and delivering precise strikes. You chamber kicks to make the opponent guess which kick you perform, to fake kicks or to just kick again. It requires a ton of balance and speed compared to karate. It's pretty negligent on hands but it's not an issue for a boxer, since boxing strikes make karate ones look like jokes anyway. Karate is more balanced than taekwondo when it comes to using hands and feet, there is a lot of focus on front-back movement while being well balanced in order to get more power. When it comes to styles of boxing- taekwondo is like outboxing while karate is like inboxing, both require a lot of movement but in a very different way. All that being said- when it comes to the "art" of "martial arts" both aint got shit on northern kung fu styles. These are some of the most beautiful movements a human body can perform
ITF tae kwon doe focus alot on blocking and punches. So I'd choose that over any karate. The other tkd arts is stupid specially WTF tkd only good against same opponents.
@@FFKfanTV maybe it's your school that puts extra focus on punching and blocking, in our itf school it's mostly kicking. I did come back to karate (kyokushin) when our dojang had a summer break and karatekas train punching so much more than taekwondoka. I do like blocks in taekwondo more, they are very similar but you block at a different angle than in karate. In karate it's usually blocking at 90 degree angles, putting up barriers against attacks, in taekwondo you block slightly further (105 degree angle) to meet the opponent's attack before they reach maximum power of their attack.
Taekwondo get inspired by Chinese martial artist (Shaolin Kungfu) and combine with Taekyeon. That's how Koreans are gonna tell us. But Japaneses have different view on this
I have trained in both TKD and Shotokan Karate and I agree 100% with this video. Thanks for doing it. It will help people trying to decide between the two for training.
@@naimanazmon1840 My back is messed up from my military duty so if I was to get back into one or the other it would probably be Karate because spinning kicks are done but not emphasized as much so not as frequently. Karate is at least 60/40 hand/foot techniques, while that number is reversed in TKD.
07:35 I teach all forms of Palgwe from 1 to Won Koryo in addition to the Taegeuk 1 to Iryo. Even Taekwondo over the period has evolved into 2 distinct martial arts - WT Taekwondo & ITF Taekwondo - so much so that it is in no way ever possible to merge borh of them as the attempts were made in rhe last 2 decades. ITF stagnated in its current form while WT continues to evolve with some noticeable changes seen every two years.
@@rajeshkhilari yeah, attempting to be appealing to the Olympics is the main reason why both karate and taekwondo are watered down. Beings accepted into Olympics always is a sign of Bad Times for an art. Judo has also suffered from this Actually karate has suffered less because they still have the punches to the head -contact and takedowns. Even ground&bound to some degree. Transition from point-fighting to karate combat for istance has been quite painless for some players
The main difference is with Karate, you can do it untill very old age. With Taekwondo, once you hit 40 and older, then you are lucky if all of your joints are still ok. Of course you can do Taekwondo at older ages but there so many techniques that are out off the charts for you.
once when was watching my brother Taekwondo they were doing throws so thought it was just about that but someone who was talking to me said it not just that but called karate weak and rubbish which I don't agree with. Is Taekwondo karate? As thought they 2 diffident things. From how you explain it it sound like sonic way would be karate and Taekwondo would be knuckles ways.
Taekwondo is a descendant of Karate and this was officially recognized by the founder of TKD. TKD is not Korean traditional martial art. Although TKD's movements are look different from Karate, all origins of TKD's movements can be traced to Karate. Korea has Taekkyon and Subak-do which has over thousand year of history. Although Taekkyon doesn't internationally recognized as TKD, It still has many practicers and well-organized system in South Korea. Taekkyon has longer recorded history than any other Japanese martial arts and it is as long as Chinese martial arts. Also, Taekkyon has registered UNESCO World Heritage due to its long history and well-remaining systems. But Taekwondo is not because it has short history.
