*CLEARLY* the manager was out her depth here. Accept the coin, put in the safe with a note (date time car reg etc), sort it out later. Move on with your day. Your job is not to argue about legal tender with a customer in your shop.
@@nicotoscani1707 No it's because supposed alien abductees are insane. Are aliens real? Probably, got to be something out there. Have they been abducting humans? I highly doubt it.
I’ve got a stack of £5, £10 and £20 coins that my grandma used to buy us all at Christmas and birthdays. We always thought they were worthless, nice to know I’ve probably got a fair few months of fuel tucked away.
only 'circulating legal tender coins' can be spent and traded with banks or a business. Banks, building societies and shops are NOT obliged to accept commemorative coins - and never have been - as they are not circulating legal tender. Some banks do accept them at their own discretion, but this is unlikely.
@@Ultra-Violet They are circulating coins as lots of them have been spent now. So they're now in circulation... Either way they are Legal Tender regardless so they cant not accept them if there's a debt to be payed. I suggest you do your homework before claiming whether you can't do this or you can't do that. As you evidently don't know what you talking about...
@@Ultra-Violet The settlement in court proves otherwise. Plus the legislation that approves them... 😂 Countless times off video evidence captured by users of said Legal coins also makes everything you said null and void. Full stop. Good bye. 👋
That “manager” did an awful job of relaying the issue to her dirty manager- she didn’t mention that you had already paid or any of your legal arguments which was the most important aspect. It’s a shame you didn’t take the receipt that he offered as it would’ve been funny to see her reaction when you produced it.
The end result of all this really needs to be banks stopping refusing to accept these coins from retailers. The more people use them like this, the more pressure there will be on the banks to do the right thing and allow these coins to be deposited, which they should be doing anyway.
Garlic gorilla. I totally agree. People have no idea what the implications will be of a cashless society, something that it seems obvious to me that they are pushing for.
*Because Tesco allowed a debt to be incurred by providing the petrol before the customer paid for it, they have to accept the customer's offer to settle the debt using legal tender currency. If they refuse to accept this form or payment, they cannot lawfully sue the customer to recover the debt, or have him arrested and charged with any crime relating to non-payment of the debt, because he has already made a legally reasonable offer to settle the debt in a form recognised as legal tender throughout the UK.* *It's up to them if they accept it, but if they don't then they can't sue or arrest him because he offered to pay with legal tender.*
I just want to say I worked here and closely with these 3 managers. Liz, Andy & Sally. Liz is who you first see, Sally is the duty manager and Andy is Andy. I worked for this company for 4 years and it was 4 years too long. That being said, Andy and Sally are actually really nice people. Still, it’s satisfying to see this. Makes me all warm inside. So long moto, I don’t miss you.
I've had this exact same thing with £50 notes. She is breaking the law (unless it's been changed in the 7 years since I left the septic isle, which is entirely possible given the madness that has gripped the country) by not accepting the promise of the Bank of England in settlement of a debt. However the old bill are just as stupid and will always side with trader and arrest you if you don't offer alternative means of payment. Thats life in not so Great Britain.
@@reissadams8986Surprised you can not use google. There are a few people who do this, got arrested, then compensated by the police. From the Daily Mail, second hit on my google search, first looked like an individual. "Man who was arrested for using £100 coin to pay for his fuel at a Tesco Extra garage is awarded £5,000 in damages by police Brett Chamberlain, 54, attempted to pay for petrol at Tesco using £100 coin He used a Trafalgar Square special edition which is legal tender under a 1971 Act The carpenter launched legal action and received £5,000 compensation In 2014 he had similar run-in after trying to pay for petrol with five £20 coins By Kaya Terry For Mailonline Published: 22:07, 26 October 2021 | Updated: 02:45, 27 October 2021 "
Subscribed. Why don't these people just google the facts? Love how your calm, collected voice really cuts through to those facts. Keep up the great work, my friend. .. I'm just checking myself to make sure the vapes these dimwits are selling are legal..
This is a shop not a public building payed by tax payers. These cameras in stores are cctv for security of the staff and customers. And they can have a no filming policy nothing wrong with that.
you should keep £100 pounds worth of pennies and if they dont accept the big coins hit them with pennies then tell them they agreed any coins up until £2 coins 🤔😂
1 & 2 pence coins are only legal tender up to 20p. So the most you could use pennies and 2p’s for would be 40p. Next time I go there I do intend on using the maximum of each coin. Which would be £40.40, and take them a long time to count!
You've missed the point where they can refuse any tender you provide. Just like they don't have to accept 10000 pennies either. You need to learn trade law rather than having your 'Gotcha' moment and sounding like Mr. Bean.
I paid a car park with a £5 coin once. Having tried to sell it for a little more as collectible value and failed. Love the irony of Money Money Money being played on the radio during the argument.
That’s all part of the scam. The Mint have received public money to mint these coins, which they then sell to us at face value, and then make it purposefully ambiguous so that nobody spends them.
@@AbsoluteAudits I also heard that a guy bought a shed load of those coins to gain airmiles but the credit card company complained to the Royal Mint so the Mint instructed banks not to accept them instead of instructing the credit card company not to honour the airmiles. I don't know if it is true but I wouldn't put it past the Scumbags that are The Royal Mint, Card Companies that are one and the same as Banks also fuel cartels are included all Scumbags.
The only one there who behaved appropriately and respectfully in that shop was the young lad at the start. Hopefully he wasn't disciplined by those dirty managers for accepting it in the first place.
I said no out of habit unfortunately, but did subsequently request a receipt twice to no avail. They also removed the reward points I earned, so will be following that up too.
@@AbsoluteAudits They have no right to remove your club points you did pay. What gets me is they say I have not seen a hundred pound coin well that’s not your fault. Please 🙏 keep up this great work 😜💕
Really enjoyed this video absolute Muppets in that Petrol station if I was working And you paid with that I would swap it with my own money so I could put the coin in my own collection 😂
How can they not accept a £50 note? I've worked in shops and petrol stations most my adult life and I've never not accepted a 50 pound note, and there's never been a problem.
Depends mate. I’ve had a couple of times where shops in my city stopped taking £50 notes. It was due to A LOT of fake £50s doing the rounds at the time. Lasted until they caught the guys behind the whole thing, then shops started accepting £50s again. The ones here couldn’t be detected by any tests the stores had as they were that well counterfeited. If there’s an issue with counterfeiting in your area, then shops will stop accepting certain notes, which is usually £50 notes. Dudes were going around all the shops here, buying 20 cigarettes, paying with the fake £50, then walking away with £40 in real notes……Wish I’d gotten some of those £50s 😂. I’ve also seen some dude in Asda having an argument with staff, as he’d tried to use a £5 coin to pay 😂🤣.
@@Acheron666 we had a problem with fake £20 notes around by me, we had to put every 20 under a uv light, or whatever light it was. Was a pain in the arse for a while, as everyone uses 20s. But luckily I never got caught out but other people I worked with took a few. A lot of farmers by me and they all carry 50s so maybe that's why we never stopped taking them, but can't say we ever had a fake one.
@@dcarbs2979 A lot of stores won’t take them, because a lot of people don’t even know they exist. £5 coins are collectors items…Still legal tender, but they are far from common. You won’t get them in change handed to you in shops and you won’t get handed them if you go to a bank counter to take cash out…….Literally minted for collectors and not a common coin at all.
According to the Royal mint website : "Please note that whilst these coins are legal tender, they are not designed for general circulation, so banks and shops are unlikely to accept the coins. The Royal Mint cannot accept returns of such coins outside of the 14 days return policy." So... Looks like they are for collection only with less or no value, royal mint doesn't give a round after 14 days 😂
it literally says on their website shops are not obliged to accept them. if you are an expert you would’ve known that. going about your way to be miserable to retail staff is sad
@@starseedlingg if a customer paying with legal tender cash makes their lives miserable, then they need to see a therapist and consider a career change.
@@AbsoluteAudits I don’t know pal, I think if anyone needs their head examined it’s you, and why you only seem to get a kick out of arguing with and harassing staff on minimum wage. You go around in shops recording with your phone, using payment that you know the staff are unlikely to know is legal tender, all so you can have an argument with them. Just very pathetic stuff all round.
@@AbsoluteAudits being difficult for the sake of a video says everything they need to know about you. You were recording as you went in expecting an argument, the excitement in your voice the whole time when they weren’t sure what to do was insane. Regardless they have a right to refuse service if you’re being a twat, which you were. In the end they accepted your coin though didn’t they, and you still felt a need to upload it to shame two female workers (who never had this ‘meltdown’ you so gracefully indicated they have). THIS is your field of ‘expertise’? 💀 get a life
Well done audit for standing yea grounds and that bloke tellin you your not aloud to film as part of the data protection act 🤣🤣🤣🤣he needs to go back to training school
So you intentionally used an irregular coin to cause a problem for min wage workers to prove a point? Why bother to even do this? Are you going to try ask change for a £50 note next?
Sadly not filmed, but I was told that I couldn’t pay by cash at Boots Options at Banbury in Oxfordshire, and there are no signs to that effect in the window or anywhere in the shop, apparently they say that has been their policy since lockdown !
That all depends on what you were attempting to use the cash for. Were you buying goods, or paying for a service or goods that you’ve already received (ie settling a debt)? They only need signs for settling debts, not for goods transactions where they can choose to only accept payment in wagon wheels if they choose to.
Well played my man, I think the first ‘manager’ is one of them who gains promotion purely based on length of service. As for the little child who was the ‘dutaaay manager’, well she was pathetic at best. Very poor show 🤡
The dirty manager actually made my coffee 5 minutes earlier across the road in Costa. I was surprised when she turned up as the highest authority… the whole fiasco was pathetic. The only saving grace was the lowest paid, youngest, least experienced employee, who was polite and professional.
@@AbsoluteAudits this is because at moto, one random manager is assigned as “Duty Manager” for their shift. All the duty manager does is respond to staff issues and be the final say in matters. Sally is just the unit manager of Costa, she’s no higher up the chain that either of the other two managers you spoke to that day. They just played Eenie meanie miney mo for the duty manager phone. Hell, when I used to do nights, I’d have the phone and I wasn’t even a manager xD
@@AbsoluteAudits I think it's sad that you go around causing problems for people who are just doing their job. Don't you think people have enough shit to deal with without you coming along with your petty, attention seeking squabbles.
I love your calm approach even when they don't like it. The young costa girl was very unprofessional and is in the wrong job IMO. This issue about commerative coins isn't rocket science, if these big companies its don't accept them then they need to display a sign at the pumps before you dispense the fuel. You as you know are acting within the law.
The key word what they don't comprehend is what it was intended for... £100 coin was INTENDED for commemoration and not purchase... The fact that it was intended does not mean there is no option to use it for payment in this matter. I agree, fuel paid. they could pay for their electric bill or fuel deliveries when they get their invoices after the fuel delivery tanker has been 🤣
@@nicotoscani1707 These 9 to 5ers are just trying to make a living. they don't make the rules, they just follow company policy. This guy is just a bully.
Problem is, regardless of whether certain coins have legal status, banks often won't accept them, so why would a shop, basically your just being an arse
10:20 You've just stated why you are recording - to catch them in their lies, and the woman immediately realises that she doesn't want more evidence recorded of their lies and demands you stop recording. She cannot do that. At worst it's tampering with evidence.
Meanwhile recording me from multiple angles. I’ve filed a SAR for the CCTV too, I’m hoping it records audio, as at some point they accessed my rewards card account and removed the points that had already been added from the initial transaction.
This was filmed at Hilton park South Moto this company is a disgrace I had the need to report them to the trading standards which my complaint was upheld. Having a Costa bar and expecting one member of staff to make drinks whilst operating the pump's was and still is a violation of the regulations and is extremely dangerous!
Video Summary • Person who runs the channel reads anything on internet and thinks he’s a lawyer. • Shops can turn away any type of payment for any reason. • You refusing to pay is illegal, your coin isn’t valid and if you drove away its pretty much theft lol. Also, cite your sources, what specific piece of legislation says shops have to accept all forms of currency.
You’re not grasping the difference between paying for goods in a shop, and settling a debt. I’m not buying fuel in advance; I’m settling debt for the fuel I’ve already taken. As the debtor I can choose how I pay, so long as it’s with legal tender. If I’m buying goods, like crisps, the shop can choose. Police have been called a few times so why haven’t I been arrested? I’ve called them myself to check and they stated I am within my right to choose. I can’t post links here. But you can google it yourself rather than being lazy, check my solicitors blog “Iain Gould”, he did a post about it. He recovered £5,000 compensation after someone was arrested for using one of these coins. Charges were denied by the CPS as these are legal tender coins and you can use them in this way. If you don’t want to educate yourself or have an open mind then that’s on you. But don’t try asserting falsehoods so confidently as if they’re true, it’s embarrassing for you.
Yes, I’ve seen many videos like that, which is what made me interested in learning coinage laws. It’s been a 20 pence limit since 1971. However, a business can choose to accept more than legally required. The rest of the limits are as follows: 5 pence coins - up to £5 10 pence coins > up to £5 20 pence coins > up to £10 25 pence coins (crowns) > up to £10 50 pence coins > up to £10 £1 pound coins+ > any amount
