First, RIP to John O’Keefe & may he and his family get the justice due in a court of law. However, this case has become so much bigger than Karen & John. The irony of John being a police officer & now police officers and the entire justice system is on trial for playing fast & loose with procedural issues and broken laws. It took a dead police officer to shine light on the flawed system that we call “Justice”.
Very well said. Agreed! Hopefully something very bad that happened, will flip and turn out to expose people & justice prevails big time. RIP Officer O'Keefe
To be fair, here in Massachusetts there is a new State Police scandal every 2-3 years and people get fired, no one goes to jail and we all wait for the next one. Ranges from an overtime stealing scheme to the DA asking for changes in the police reports to not embarrass friends, to even them hiring someone as a K9 officer that they previously investigated for drug charges. It's amazing.
Conspiracy theories are always false, and baseless, this one included, pieces of Karen Read's shattered headlights were literally found in the decease's clothing, the point being, the actual evidence in this case, all of it, points to her guilt.
She is the only one guilty those officers will be proven innocent. But I do personally think there is more than one party that helped her but to say she's not in involved is a stretch. May he RIP.
I read that a woman at the house he went to for an after party searched hiw long it takes to die in the cold roght before time he was found. This is obviously a smoking gun.
Maybe KR asked the woman to look it up for her so that Karen would not be incriminated? I'll bet that did not even happen. If it did, KR is more stupid than I thought.
yes she did but the time was actually 6:25 & KR asked the woman to do the search. all this coming out about Aruba & him wanting to break up w her but she wouldn't accept nor leave. I truly believe she is guilty of murder. I really like the judge.
The judge is a bit grumpy. :/ Though she claimed to be open to persuasion at various points of these proceedings, I'm not convinced that was true. It seems to me that she's made up her mind and was simply looking to have the various teams offer futile arguments. It will be interesting to see if she has a bias towards the prosecution emerge as the trial unfolds.
Bias Bev has clearly shown that she is protecting her own & has been so hard on defense and yet helps the CW and makes rulings In their favor time and time again.
Three months later, the judge prematurely declared a mistrial without first following Rule 27 (b) of the Massachusetts Rules of Criminal Procedure. The jury were unanimous on counts 1 and 3, but because Judge Beverly Cannone violated Rule 27 b, the verdicts were not announced before the judge declared a mistrial
With all due respect, how do y'all expect Karen to act?? If she's smug, people say stuff, she she dare laughs or smiles, then she's guilty.. she's been going through this for 2 years now!! She has the right, to smile and engage I'm small talk... Her life is literally on the line.
@@kingsmitty2043 Lol she knocked him unconscious with her car and left him to die. Karen Read doesn’t love anyone but Karen Read but unfortunately for her, all the money in the world isn’t going to save her from DNA evidence
I completely agree that Defendants can't win.. if they are crying - they're faking, if they laugh then they're callous and uncaring - I totally get it. But- Karen Read has been getting progressively more cocky and arrogant with every hearing and it's pretty obvious she is seeing all the support from the community, online forums, Turtle Boy and his crowd, News reporters, Social media etc etc... This trial more than any I can remember has generated a huge amount of media coverage and controversy before the trial has even started .... and I absolutely put that down to a Defense Team that is media savvy and aggressive. Typically before a trial the evidence is kept secret, the State is silent and the Defense will keep everything buttoned up, no interviews, no speeches on the courthouse steps, no Defendant doing ABC prime time interviews or commenting after Hearings. We usually don't have crowds on the courthouse steps booing and jeering at State witnesses or supporters as they walk up, or some Social Media influencer throwing themself under a bus and getting arrested in order to profess and publicize their perceived opinions of conspiracies, anger at false narratives, and Prosecutorial misconduct, and Thin Blue Lines and going out of their way to expose perceived unprofessional, unethical,immoral and illegal acts of local Police Departments in order to support the Defendant. Allan Jackson, Read's lead Defense attorney not only had no concerns about Read speaking out these last two years he's openly encouraged it. It's also extremely unusual for the lead Prosecutor to take to the media to publicly chastise the public over how potential State witnesses have been treated in the public. We know more about the evidence that will be presented in this case pre-trial than any trial in history. So - I believe I have seen Karen Read go from being a scared, meek and frail woman charged with murder to a confident, laughing, chair dancing arrogant woman who believes the world has her back and that the State of Massachusetts will be licking the egg if their faces and scurrying into some hole of shame when the Police force is shamed beyond repair, the Prosecutors are charged with misconduct etc etc.. but she is playing with fire. If she is innocent and never touched O'Keefe with her car and had absolutely no part in whatever happened to him that led to his death then let's hope she's found not guilty ... however - there is a chance she did back her car into him without knowing .. which would make it a tragic accident - not murder. Maybe she was so drunk that after fighting with him in the car she put too much pressure on the gas while reversing and hit him but knew she hit him and drive away in a rage ... maybe she intentionally stomped on the gas to nail him and drive away .... I actually don't think we will ever know! But - my point in this long rambling comment is that she needs to stop acting like she's Eva Perron and just be calm, and a little subdued and show some concern about the precarious position she's in - no more looking back at the gallery and waving like she's Princess Diana, no more coy smiles and lunging to lick her attorney's ear as they whisper despite no one being within 20 feet of them, no more chair dancing , no more laughing as her slimey , overly - tanned lawyer Allan Jackson says something most likely inappropriate to her ... it's not a good look. Especially considering the jury has not been chosen yet and I guarantee you that despite getting letters telling them they are not too much any news or investigate online about this case they all are and they are all watching this behavior from her. Really - it's in her best interest to. There has been information out there in the public about her actions that night, and the fact that everyone believes she had seven or eight alcoholic drinks, took a glass from one bar to the next and then another glass from that bar into her car, that she was fighting with him not only that night, but for months before hand and that he had said he wanted to break up with her, that there's a witness that says she pulled into the driveway and they sat in the car for 10 or 15 minutes appearing to argue before he got out and she took off, she woke up at 5 AM and seeing him not home immediately started making phone calls to the other police officers wives and got them to go back to the house which is beyond bizarre ( most people if they got into a fight with their partner and that partner got out of the car and went into a house to continue the party they would go home and crash and sleep off the alcohol and wake up at nine or 10 AM the next morning and then text to find out where their partner is having assumed that they just passed out drunk at the party- immediately start panicking because the person wasn't home yet) Anyway, she needs to think big picture and John O'Keefe Garner's a whole Lotta sympathy because he was basically a single man who took on his niece and nephew who were orphaned and he's a hero and a saint, and he died in a way that no one can explain so her cocky, arrogant attitude in the courtroom is going to turn everybody off!
It is a shame that Mass. law was not enforced to charge for First degree murder because he was a police officer. That's what I learned in a college class, but I don't understand why that does not apply here!!!***?
Now that the trial is halfway over.. bias Bev has shown who she favors and how she helps and makes rulings in favor of the CW time & time again. She is simply unfair.
Also if I were Karen, I wouldn’t be all smiles if I were her. She is not off the hook yet. Calm it down. Prayers for the truth to come out for the O’Keefe family and friends 🙏🏼
@@jeffreynorman4398 you haven’t read actual reports or looked at all the evidence….. Although info agree that her snarky looks can definitely give off a vibe that doesn’t go in her favor… but doesn’t make her guilty for having a confident. Snarky attitude towards these clownhats that are trying to put this on her …very sad
If people can provide timestamps or descriptions of when KR laughs, giggles or grins I would much appreciate it. There are a lot of comments saying this so maybe I am just missing it
So, let me get this straight. You want the audio so good you can her turning pages, but you dont expect to hear her breathing? Wtf? You cant have it both ways.
Her attitude and behavior in court alarmed me, as well as her behavior when she was arrested. You don't laugh and giggle when your bf is dead, and there is a crime scene/victim. She's overly confident acting and smug, which screams narcissistic personality to me. After being arrested and saying, "We are all in on this joke, right" is a very odd thing to say, IMO. I believe she deliberately ran the bf over and then tried to cover her tracks and come up with an alternative as to why her headlight was damaged by hitting his car. 49 calls to her bf between 1-4 am is also strange; it's like she wanted to show he was "missing" or that she couldn't contact him that night. That said, the Boston PD, even PD right outside the city, can be extremely shady and corrupt. I will give KR the benefit of the doubt, "innocent upon being found guilty", and wait to hear all the evidence in this case. She has a good defense attorney in David Yanetti, who is very well respected in Boston and has a great team behind him.
I just wanna give a perspective on the way she acts, and I’m not trying to come at u all. As the sister of someone who was wrongfully accused of attempted murder after defending himself, and there was police and corruption and coverups involved, when things drag on for two years and you know you’re innocent, you kinda start to go back to normal. You smile in court, etc. or I’m sure some don’t, but those things don’t make me think she’s guilty. Time changes things. But I guess the difference with my brother’s case is our judge approved our motion to dismiss the grand jury indictment. I am definitely interested to see how this goes and hear both sides, and will be watching this intently.
I’ve got to say I agree with the responding comment…. You have to understand that this is just getting big news but for her it’s been going on for years now… I can understand it coming off in a bad way but maybe the reason she’s confident is because she knows she’s innocent and is happy it’s almost over…. Just another prospective but I completely understand your point…. Gotta say though if she’s found innocent there will be other trials in this case!
I don't think it's proper to take a break why a defense attorney is doing his thing she constantly does this also Karen reads face are obviously need to change sometimes she looks evil and puckering her lips laughing my ass off I never thought she was guilty by the way I saw the pictures on her arm on the man's arm I'm sorry her boyfriend's arm and then I really didn't think she did it I'm not even a person who exams or looks at bodies I forget what they're called pathologist when Vinny showed her backing up for the first time in a snowstorm this was about 2 years ago maybe maybe a year and a half ago I look like she hit the back of his car and the driveway I don't see what little bickering here and there has to do with this it went from manslaughter to murder fox really don't come out the trial I've never believed she was killed you of murder I always thought maybe manslaughter or homicide put on trial for by vehicle but not murder those pictures of his body on his arm and have a pathologist gets up there and the reports from the FBI the defense has a good chance but this judge seems to constantly cut off the defense team when it's time to present but I also know her attorneys and her house supporters outside the courthouse hi turtle boy and at the end of the day they're fighting for her I don't think she's guilty of this but her face is need to change she's caught on camera a few times looking pretty evil popping her lips with the eye squinted that's the stuff that needs to change
All her smiling is very irritating. She thinks she alreadY won the trial. I think she is very mis staking. When she acts this way at her trial it wil go wrong for her. I think she did it
Its "mistaken"! Watch all the evidence in about 100 hours of hearings where evidence shows she didnt do it. (Shes smiling bc she knows & her attorneys have the evidence others did this. I hope youd be smiling too, after years of being called a murderer when you were not one!)
I think Karen Read is in big, big trouble, and here's why: ADA Adam Lally is unbelievably good looking. Not only is he outrageously handsome, but he is very, very, well dressed, and he is really, extremely smart and charming. Honestly, I dont know how this honorable Court is even able to focus when he's at the podium speaking, you can almost hear it in her breathing and in her confused stammering. I feel for her. But, wow...I mean, if being envious of another man's haircut is a crime, lock me up for life, your honor.
If anyone has ever seen a car after hitting a person, hard enough to kill them or even hurt them, you would see MAJOR damage to the car. Just google car-person accident. A broken taillight would be the LEAST of the damage. The damage to the taillight was caught on camera, she hit his car while backing up. There would be DNA on the car if he was hit hard enough. I think he was beaten then died in the snow. The state has to prove she did it... I'll wait for their evidence, but so far... they are losing.
I have to agree with the previous response my dad was hit and killed while walking…. So I’ve seen the damage it causes to the person and the vehicle….. No way this woman hit him and milled him with this car
@@Juke582 because it's overcharging, people get indicted but are innocent until proven guilty before trial. Regardless of innocent or guilt the charge is inappropriate, most are charged with involuntary manslaughter in this type of case. Duh
This Judge who doesn't deserve to be called that, call her Auntie Bev is so rude, has no knowledge how a criminal case function. She is so biased, friend with the Albert family or anyone of the involved. It's lies, from Lally, attitude from auntie Bev. Lies in front of the grand jury just to get the indictment they wanted. Lally is lying about the video. Can't stand this case or auntie Bev, there is no respect or decorum from her in her own courtroom, she just interrupts the attorney who is talking. A part of Us that are totally damaged from 1rst Amendments rights, a Judge who believes she has done correct in this case. She should have recused herself from the beginning, so this case had been thrown out. Every Waterfall family member should not be in law enforcement!
Crucial question NO ONE is asking: Why, at 5am when she wakes up, she never tried to call, text, leave him a voicemail to say: Where are you? No, she calls her friends and lead them to the house, where the body is, as if she wanted witnesses with her... At no point, did she try to call him for an hour or so.... but she's looking for him.... Can someone explain this to me?
To be fair, how she breathes is probably one of the last things she has to be concerned about. More important is making sure her 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘴 are audible and clear.
@@EC-dz3fb fair? Judge is a referee in a game, if other judges on televised cases can figure out how not to breathe in a mic so can this judge, this judge breathes like a smoker and it sounds gross
@@1st-1ast Yes: "fair." How she breathes doesn't take anything way from her ability to do a good job. Annoying , for sure. But she's not here for our entertainment.
I hope they show examples, to me it does look like either dog attack from hanging on the arm or from a broken bottle bar fight. It does not look like road rash to me but I am interested in examples from experts that analyze these sort of self defensive wounds
Have you seen any of the vids with dog and police dog training experts? The one guy showed the prosthetic arm they use to train, and the tears on the arm look exactly like that. A dog grabbing and being ripped off or arm pulled away, the dog does not get a hold on the whole arm. They grab skin and pinch tear. I have seen a bunch of dog experts now, all agree the marks were definitely made by a dog. Once the police dogs have gone through more extensive training, they then learn to grab bite, to hold onto a person.I personally know what dog bites look like. I had to watch my 4 year old being attacked in the face. The dog got her 3 times, before i got him off her. We thought she would lose her eye. They removed a chunk of torn eye lid. The bites smaller, but looked the same.Someone was either pulling the dog off or John was pulling his arm from the dog. It will come up in court, there was no dna found. It has been found by the FBI investigation that johns clothes were not submitted to evidence for 3 weeks.Again part of why the feds are involved in this crap investigation. The swab taken No one knows where it came from, and should have been taken from the wounds themselves. Not a shirt that had been contaminated and not preserved. Look up pictures of dog bites.
Well, thank god we live in the USA where a prosecutor needs to PROVE someone committed a crime. What if you were on trial for a crime, and you were found "not guilt". Would you like someone to post you are not innocent?
Also this case is full of cops sitting in the area right there you could see all of them a lot of them there for the defense allowed for the prosecution you could tell who's a cop and he was not a cop by the way they sit listening cops have certain mannerisms to me it's a very small courtroom for such a big case like I said I wish for all the luck in the world but I hope her defense attorneys by spotting off on Twitter and TV and all these other outlets didn't blow up her ego that she's 100% not going to get charged with this there is a chance she's convicted and goes to prison
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Karen's behavior is similar to Taylor Schabusiness behavior. The woman who cut off her boyfriend's head. She also smiles and laughs in courtroom like nothing happened to O"Keefe. Arrogance is disgusting.
She is smiling because she is finally getting Justice as she was framed. Look at FBI investigation reports. Their crime scene specialist said, car never hit by his body and body not hit by car. Pretty much says it all! Pray you don’t experience what dirty cops do.
You realize you're not in the chat box on the livestream right now, yes? This is the NOT-live Comment Section. Others have no idea as to what your comments refer.
Shes smiling because her defense has all the evidence to clear her. Ive already heard about 50 points where just one or two would clear her. Watch more b4 you form an opinion.
@mikejones9906 what DNA evidence? That weak bs tail light defense? How about his injuries NOT being caused by a collision- according to an FBI expert. Funny how you ignore that.
This trial is going to get very ugly I predict! 😮 She wanted him dead and confessed to striking him with her car and leaving scene! Drunk mean girl! She was better off claiming it was an accident!
Karen is realizing that this Judge will not be accepting any BS. lol Karen becoming scared now. Maybe Karen will stop laughing and smiling now? Maybe not?
All evidence thus far shows she did NOT do this. Apparently you havent watched all of these hearings & heard evidence or youre chiming in for opposition. Heaven forbid youre judged for your frredom & life based on someones opinion that you look arrogant. Sad.
Sounds like jealousy to me. Get the facts. And about smiling, so what she's been thru hell for two years and it's going to end soon. Have not doubt innocent.
Maybe, maybe not. This is why we have trials. Sometimes they actually get it right. The state of Massachusetts could have saved a lot of money, time, and effort, if they had ONLY asked you 4 years ago. Case closed. lol
@@EC-dz3fb that makes sense. Plus, I just realized this was a repeat. This was one that actually took place last week. Court TV just got around to streaming it. So I had already seen her "take it under advisement". Turns out it was the exact same clip. 😂🤦🏿♀️ Thank you the perspective. I agree. 🙏🏾
@@1sweetmessI can’t watch Chad’s because I can’t stand him nor his lawyer and I’ll get mad unnecessarily when John decides to minimize the children’s mu**der. Add that Chad’s kids will testify and I’d probably just throw my tv away. Dramatic but still.
@francescawilliams8177 I feel ya.. I saw last night where chad was talking to his daughter Emma when cops were searching his property. He was telling Emma to put money on Loris commissary and she said oh I've talked to Lori (in jail) and she said we'll be OK because we have your wallet and we're not like Colby. I was like wth?!!! Colby is better off than they are. Chad's kids are brainwashed too. It made me wonder if they weren't in on it too.
Free Karen Read! It’s coming! All the ones blindly blaming Karen Read, I hope you’re watching the trial!! All those in the house are about to face the justice they deserve!!
I think she killed the guy accidentally while she was drunk I don’t believe in any theory conspiracy. Why the cop wants to protect one single cop ? I’ve seen so many times cop handing over another cop.
Hopefully court tv will air this trial instead of the Daybell trial, the Daybell trial is a basic repeat of the Lori trial and the production is appalling.
The FBI begs to differ, they've been investigating this investigation and have found that almost all the witnesses lies tonthe state grand jury. Everyone from the people in the house to the cops investigating for the state.
Yeah very strange she knows it's low visibility, pitch dark night, snowing she doesn't wait to see if he is not in the rear side, she backs up. She and possible other parties plant fake evidence. Bottom line she knows more than people know and for folks to not want to hear the case play out is a disservice to the killed officer. If she's a saint and being 100% truthful great let the case play out.
Correct, zero physical evidence except microscopic fragments of a double encased Lexus taillight that is designed not to shatter (unless you turn off the Canton Polce garage video for 42 minutes and use a hammer, right Chief Berkowitz. ) My question how sickened do you feel listening to the beginning of it all