I wasn't a fan of tank Karina since the beginning, principally now that her damage as a tank got nerfed so many times, i build the same to Beto but instead of lightning i use blood wings and blue retri, the sustain is not bad too
To be honest its on your enemy composition or your team composition if you gonna do damage or tank but still kinda risky to do damage but i get your point but even if she got nerf she still good as tank
The thing about tank Karina is not the dmg. It's actually almost impossible to counter gank areas or objectives that are claimed by her, since she's basically invincible and can still bring out proper punches.
The thing that makes karina so strong is her passive; with her passive she doesnt really need to build dmg items so she can just go full tank; her passive is smth like she dealing more damage the less the targets hp is; so she just needs bits of dmg from cursed helmet/thunderbelt and her passive will do the rest. So never run around karina with low hp just cuz "she didnt build any dmg items"; she gonna fk you up either way
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Beto, did you know, Bloody Retri can trigger skill effect now and deal magic damage. That means magic defence reduction such as genius wand and harley's passive can make bloody retri damage sky high. Bloody Retri can also trigger ice queen wand effect to slow the enemy and glowing wand effect to deal broken amount of damage.
FOR REAL Karina has always been known for making the squishy enemies disappear, I missed that time so I actually use magic build quite often 💀 for fun too, idc if we lose I want the marksman and mages to suffer :D
9:16 that fight would of gone so badly if first skill wasn't active negating mm and zilong damage since mage and jg had to aim their attacks but missed, and if the tank was there with ult stun. Which luckily their tank was having fun fighting masha in bot lane. Gotta love the Soloq experience of team going to other side of map where tank is.
I Really hate this current Meta right now, especially the fact I can't even use my main hero anymore which is Karina because she keeps on getting banned, although I'm proud she finally has the spotlight of the meta but I'm not proud that She is only part of the meta just because she can perform well with tank build, instead of her assigned role which is damage build.
Tip: After hitting an enemy with the first skill(1st mark), use a basic attack (2nd mark) then use your second skill(3rd mark/enhanced attack). That's just how to deal more damage since the 3rd mark is enhanced damage.
Honestly to me it kinda depends on my mood and the enemy composition which build I used for karina, if I'm not feeling it (mostly because nobody want to play the jungle) I use the tank build because it's just allow for more mistake to happen, and you can kinda like act as a tank jungler, although sometimes I just played the damage build and fuck it, the fun thing about the build it really punish out of position player, so don't get discouraged if you're losing with karina, just keep farming and clearing lane while waiting their damage dealer got cocky, I have a couple of match when k went from 0-5 to 2-7-10, because they got cocky and we just went for the wipe and push inhi
I personally like building her semi tank build. Namely these items are: COD, Calamity Reaper, Concentrated Energy, Winter Truncheon and Blood Wings. Most of these itmes give a lot of hp, whilst still being able to have enough damage due to the item's stats and passives.
Damage build is perfect for early game snowballing. Tank Karina shines when kill score doesn't matter anymore and securing objectives is the way to go. I usually change builds when I notice that everyone can now be lethal to you. That way, they'll be surprised how come you became so tanky when in fact you just changed your items in the late game lol.
Karina with full magic build is not bad when your enemy use a lot of squishy heroes, and doesn't have a lot of cc. I guess it's still the best jungler for first pick because if the enemy can't predict your build, it makes it harder to counter her
As a former Karina main I actually prefer the magic build so far most of my matches with her are good and skills are very easy to understand especially for squishy heroes. It's just satisfying to see her Ulti resets after a kill.
Tank build is the new meta for other junglers like karina Harley and barats they only need is jungle emblem to farm faster and especially its hard to kill when the player is good or play safe but some other karina user use mage build to burst the enemy just like you my idol 😃 😊
I remember having this build (except I use tough boots at that time), when Karina wasn't revamped yet. Ah, the good old days wherein you can actually kill a 75% HP squishy hero in one combo once you get Clock, Calamity, and Lightning. I got so so many long winstreaks with the strategy that I had at that time. But now that Karina is in a revamped state, I might as well try this build again in the future. Very entertaining video, Betosky!👌🏻😉 Edit: I typed except, then changed it to expect, then changed it again to except. 😂 Trust issues, am I right?¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I still remember the old Karina where you either get a kill and reset her ulti for some of the fastest savages in the game or immediately get annihilated in the team fight ahh good times
I miss the old Karina that can instantly reset her ult when killing enemies, whether using ult or no. The new Karina lost the ability because now her ult marks the target, so sometimes it doesn't reset.
@@_simplejared_1992 true, now her 1st skill is practically a good counter to basic attack dependent heroes, I guess it's fair trade. I only change her playstyle so I use the ult at the last moment. Where the old one I use her ult 1st to get close.
Karina's burst is insanely scary with damage build. Tip: Never spam Karina's ult so you don't end up in an unexpected place in teamfights. Also day 111 of asking Beto sensei to play MINOTAUR
Tbh I feel like you should press right away the second phase of the ult for maximun damage, you just need to be careful when the shadow goes into the torret or enemies
@@shaii5526 spamming her ult can get you in trouble. Ex. If there was a squishy and you spam ult. Squishy dies but then after that, your ult will target another hero. If the next hero you auto target is a tanky hero you can't burst or has a strong CC or is in tower, you're definitely done for
I remember once I got my first savage using Karina I immediately used her a lot but by using damage build because at that time I didn't care about meta, now i still build her damage build because why not?
This is Beto, Beto is too good at this game so he always gives an advantage to the enemies to give them a chance. Beto is kind and loves Fair play. Be like Beto
Same build with the Magic Assassin dagger thing instead of lightning. Higher regen and more steamroller opportunities. Just need to jump at the right time for team fights and need at least one tanky frontliner to pull it off. With Angela or Estes, this build is just unstoppable. Just ban Karina man or pick if it’s left open. Wait out a few enemy skills before jump in, only use ulti for finisher and not as an initiator unless absolutely necessary. Practice resetting your ulti every time and they got no chance. Use skill one as initiator and/or to withdraw without getting basic attack damage. Karina probably the easiest and the most deadliest assassin right now
Tank is new meta i literally built tank bendetta offlane and after 20 mins end up have highest dmg in my team Slightly better than our mm Around 76k dmg
I used a similar build as this, except with a Divine Glaive and Genius Wand. It literally gave me 3 maniacs and 1 savage in 1 match. It brings out the Assassin in her.
Karina tank build revolves around her passive which is more effective as the fight goes longer. Also, due to push for tanks doing jungle Karina is in good spot for having tank build. I am forced to build Tank build when team is composed of squishy heroes so that I can be tanky for them. But even then I try to include some magic items just for fun. In my opinion Hybrid build is best for every situation, for specific situations you need to adjust properly.
a tip when using karina if your close to the enemy dont use your ult immediately because they might have flicker or just ult away like zilong did at 3:45 then you cant catch them and also doing it that way maximizes the damage because you dont cancel your first skill like when you ult first (unless they're one shot)
Absolutely agree, I've been playing Karina for so long in dmg build and finishing 12.5 score usually... also, please don't do benedetta video, or they will ban it lol
Lol just now i played Karina tank and it was so boring so I decided to player hyper in next match but ur notification so I came here to see if Karina hyper is good or not but it is actually op 🥰
I main Karina with around 1.6k games. More fun and for solo is better imo. With tank build you fall at late game and you can't always trust your teammates, with damage build you always have the chance of carrying.
Tbh, karina doesnt do lot of damage with tank build (experience when an enemy did this and my teammates were saying in chat to not be scared of her since she doesnt deal that much damage, and me asking karina to say to change build to damage build since karina tank is not really meta with moonton nerfing it) the enemy karina switched her build too late since we were already winning and it was the end of the match, while in another match my ally karina was building tank, i noticed it during checking for the kills early game, and asked them to change, they agreed and we ended up winning
Tank Karina has a lot of utility & is more flexible, but just playing it doesn't feel right. Damage Karina w/ full MP is not only really fun one-shotting squishes & even Fighters, but it's so satisfying to play (Also bonus tip: The only source of PEN you will need from her is Divine Glaive; no Magic Pen from emblem, Arcane Boots & Genis Wand, just get Divine Glaive & build her magic power to get to 20+% lost HP true damage).
Karina tank PROS: Can sustain Can last in battle Farm faster Cons: Can do less damage almost impossible to one shot a marksman Karina damage PROS Can do burst damage Can be a perfect ambush Can one shot almost anything Cons: Cannot sustain in battle Can die easily Not a good late game
Same I'm also like you who's against meta against karina sometimes i got bullied by it but i say it's my playstyle and you cannot change it support from Philippines kazuki❤️
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If your just a side laner i go for tank build and if your core its damage but you can build her tank as well as a core its mainly because karina doesn't have advantages with other heroes that relies on skills so tank karina is suitable because she can help the marksman alot
I think the reason people prefer tank karina is because although the damage build is good it makes her vounterable by hereos with cc and high burst like vale, eudora, aurora, kagura, kadita, xavier and so much more. Although yes, you will still get cc'ed even if you go with a tank build, but atleast you will be able to tank the damage and you will be able to survive their 1 shot combos.
Karina is my new fav n her magic damage is insane. The tank build Karina has a potential survival range but no damage like magic brust. I felt more tanky jungler than hyper jungler.. I had more assist than kill. 🤣 I really got bored with tank build. Though magic damage might be squishy so I do build half magic n tank build..
What's the difference between Karina tank and Karina mage? It's just like how you kill a Villager in Minecraft: Killing with a wooden sword = Tank build Killing with a full enchanted Netherite sword. = Damage build.
Tank build karina Having a stone sword but with full enchanted netherite Mage Karina Having an enchanted netherite sword but you are wearing leather armor.
I reached my first legend with the help of first karina..her ult never runs out..Even beginners can used it very easily ..but the latest update karina kinda complicated...wish Moonton brings back the old OG..
I always play Karina with damage build, almost the same as Beto's but I never use Lighting Truncheon and instead I use Divine Glaive. I guess since Karina deals mostly true damage, I think I should swap Divine Glaive with Lighting Truncheon, it's more fun and nutty than Divine Glaive so I can have freedom for more one shots. Tank Karina is good but because since I used her a lot before her Revamp, I know that using damage build with good timing and positioning can be much better, even if they have a lot of tanky heroes. Just build CoD and CE and that's enough (for me at least) sustain for her.
Karina dmg is also great against tanky heroes such as uranus, baxia, grock, and any heroes like that. Karina should be an anti tank something like Karrie do