Karl Malone Tells Isiah Thomas About The 'Secret Meeting' That Kept Him Off The Dream Team  

Magic has also said that him and Bird didn’t want Thomas there either.

I mean, MJ could have said that in a meeting lol

MJ also was told it was already decided that Zeke wasn’t being picked…so it was not Jordan deciding on who was in or out

That's not the way it went. The committee went to MJ first and he asked who was all gonna be on the team because he wasn't gonna play with a bunch of scrubs. When Zeke walked off the floor after the Bulls eliminated the Pistons, that ended his consideration to be on the team.

What really happened likely was MJ, Bird and Magic got called in for seperste and completely different reasons and then all pf a sudden IT was brought up and they all probably said yesh idk if I'm playing if he's on this team.

had me in the first half😂

Lol, not to mention zeke being like what didn’t you like me … dude come on everyone hated the pistons unless you were from Detroit

That's the difference between humans and Jesus. HE forgives sins to whomever wants to be forgiven, but us humans have a hard time doing the same

​@@michaelmartin3068 No one cares He is a legend

​@Rio10 Dude, yes we do care. He didn't only do that. He didn't even help raise either of those kid's he created. Then he disputed the small amount of child support he was ordered to pay.

You all still have done zero to Josh Giddy

​@@linksaze3806what is there to talk about? The police did a thorough investigation & they determined there was nothing going on

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Like will smith "why he don't want me man" 😂

It is painful when you work with people for many years and on the surface act friendly. And you think you have a relationship with them, maybe just at work or outside too, and then they push you out of something big like the Olympics and historical like the Dream Team.

It's because of his reputation as a bad boy Pistons. In the NBA, they've chosen Michael Jordan to be the poster boy of the NBA and Isiah Thomas destroyed his chances of being a great representation of the NBA.

Lol Isiah Thomas was a dick to everyone as well as being an extremely dirty player. He broke his hand punching his own teammate during practice, grabbed his coach by the throat during a game, would try to injure opponents, and would throw fits constantly on the court. He’s still too bitter to feel pain.

@@joeykorleone6161 dam you beat me to it

He wanted that gold medal 🥉

#GuruBasketballKieroSays because it altered his personal legacy

Becuase him and Laimbeer where the worst thugs in the history of the NBA. Do a few searches and you will see why

​@Corey H no they weren't.

@@MrHarlandwilson Haha, you just have to think.. just a little ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PTyVvpAE4Eg.html

No, it doesn't 😂 If Michael Jordan says, " It's him or me," it doesn't matter who the coach is, they're picking MJ and moving forward

​@J972M it was actually magic cuz him and Isiah were beefing because Isiah spread rumors about magic being into dudes cuz he got aids

Dam I know that stopped everything 😂😅

Nobody cares about anything Christian said. He was relevant.

Lmao that was the nail in coffin. His word is law

Hahahahaha

It is Michael Jordan and he admitted to it.

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it wasnt a secret lmao

Lol it wasn't a secret. I was known. The young ladies parents didn't press charges cuz he was in the NBA draft and took a payout and to have him sign his rights away from being the babies father. He took the deal but made it one large (at the time) payment.

And Skeltons

He got 13 secrets he hidin rn

Right

And Stockton was his teammate. It was a snub but not as bad as Shah

So...what about his coach that coached the Dream Team?

No one liked his ass he just can't accept it.

Right man. Really not complicated. Zeke was terrific. Detroit bullied the nba and it, their leader , is shocked players didn't like him. Not hard to comprehend for most people.

Why you doing Elvis like that?!

I truly believe too. He achieved everything. I think that would have been the icing on the cake for him.

Yeah it's been hurting him for years and he been saying jordan said he didn't want him thats why he wasn't on the team .... shame cause zeke shouldve been on that team yo

True Story

loser video on so many fronts....Malone liked Isiah o much he cut his head open with a vicious elbow....Bird, Pippen and Jordan hated him too....he spread sheet about Magic during his HIV come-out....Isiah is a negative life force, low-life....get this - he has two GAY sons....what are the fcking chances, lol.......tip for mums and dads ---> don't go to orgy parties and leave your young children unattended. xoxox

If it's coming for Karl it's probably a lie tho

Nobody did.

Oh man that’s funny

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I still don’t like him or the bad boy pistons and it’s been over 30 years .. I would say they’re the most disliked team ever

@@dayra6425 Bad Boys Pistons were hard. They physically beat up Jordan & he's still humiliated to this day. Isaiah was stone cold. And you should read his book. He grew up sleeping in his coat because his apartment had no heat. He ate tomato sandwiches. He'd find fast food wrappers & open them to see if their was food in them. So I doubt he gives a shit about some bitch ass sensitive fools .

Cause he kicked ass

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@@dayra6425they don’t like u either

That's never been in question, to my knowledge, Zeke was kold. He wanna know why he didn't make team USA.

And a complete asshole that just about everybody hated.

Just one back to back titles

Just won back to back titles

There was no secret meeting. It was Jordan. Barkley aint shit either. Larry Bird could barely walk. John Stockton wasn't better than IT.

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I don't think there was a meeting. I think Jordan said "I'm not playing of he's here" so they didn't invite Isiah

Lol

Stockton wouldn’t be on the team if Isiah was there

@@execdecision2647 Amen

xtian was a lock?

It was majic

Magic

Ironic, since Chuck Daly was the coach of Pistons and Dream team.

It's was pippen that didn't like Isiah lmfao

@@GABRIELA-ACEVEDO.USA Basketball more than likely didn’t give Daly an option.

So your comment is the real one that is factual. Only 7 likes. Karl Malone is a pedo so why is he getting asked? But you know if you already know. All of this you watch is made up for controversy

Didn't he kiss Magic on the cheek at the All Star game after he was diagnosed?

The coach had nothing to do with ur. They were selected just like the players were back then

Chuck passed away

Zeke knows exactly why he wasn't on that team. I don't think he's that dumb

Because MJ was bitter that he didn't shake his hand.

Cuz MJ isnt too goaty with IT. Lol

@@dlogan7808 They were best friends until Zeke began to spread rumours that Magic was gay when he contracted HIV and that negatively impacted their relationship

@@vikramkrishnan6414 I read that later man that's crazy. When they asked isiah back in late 90s or early 2000s he said magic didn't come through for him as a friend on tnt or NBC during a game. I've always wondered what magic did.. then I began to think it had to do with him not making the dream team.... but when all actuality it was isiah that first burned that bridge

Which is stupid he should have made it over Stockton

But they kept voting Isiah Thomas for Union President ever year.. They didn't hate him that match..

😂😂I found this hilarious for some reason

Good one🤮

FACTS!!!!

Bruh 😂

Who wronged him?? What about the bad boys? Did they wrong anybody????

That settles it. Best looking old guy not on the dream team. Let it go.

People make mistakes,all the time especially in your perfect USA!

USA still best place on earth. All other countries can go pound sand

@@anonymous-hz2un ,is elvis presley also black 🤔

@@anonymous-hz2un I expected that from a white person

​@@anonymous-hz2un In jail 90% of the pedo are white 😂

Isiah is my number 76 point guard. All time.

@@roneldeleon8704 time to get back to your coloring books

@@Boss3Nate accept the facts!!!

@@roneldeleon8704 accept the fact that he’s your 76th ranked PG all time..??? 😂😂😂 ok I accept. The problem is your ranking and opinion is irrelevant but go off!

Thomas was an incredible player. He was also the leader of the dirties team of all time and someone who had tried to injure everyone who was important on the Dream Team. It's the same reason why Laimbeer can't get a coaching job in the NBA in spite of his coaching success. Everyone who is picking coaches came up in the era when Thomas, Laimbeer and the Pistons were trying to injure the stars of their teams

And like a Mailman…he’s doesn’t deliver on Sundays

Same as you. But at least he has more than $600 in the bank

@@UberKrispy that’s hilarious!

No rings and bangs children.

@@UberKrispyyeah many pedo’s got more than 600 usd in the bank ask epstein or better yet bill cospy eh¿

Dude is a secret from some of his kids 😂😂

Everybody's got secrets.... Do we really want to go there in reference to THIS context??? Prolly not. I don't like malone...never did. But, with this one.. he doesn't have anyone to protect except Stockton and we all know Stockton doesn't give a care about how you feel about him.. So there it is..

@@samgunz1 ur mom probably got tons of secrets

​@@apostlej.k.diamond4119 You must be a dusty! Only dustys thinks it's okay to leave 13yr old females single mother's! Then blame the girl for looking older than she should! And you wonder why blk men are at the bottom of the totem pole! SAD SAD SAD! No other race of man would attempt to justify sick behavior like this....

​@@apostlej.k.diamond4119Very true, we all have secrets.

😂😂😂 yo you not lying for so many years he talks about it at least twice a year!! Smh get over it Zeke it's over with!!!

He dreams with the Dreamteam with MJ 🤣🤣

I would too...shyt smh...do you know what that could have did to his career... The man's a legend..yes...but he's not as legendary as he should be...

Is it just me...that think Isaiah Thomas look like he related to The Jacksons!!!

@Children Jones facts. I think the same thing all the time. 😂😂

@@windycityblues9685 Magic and Zeke were best friends. A Bromance!

@@windycityblues9685 I’m NOT going to spend all night going back and forth with you about this. How many years ago was it? YOU and Zeke need to LET IT GO! The lack of a handshake that has disturbed people’s lives for DECADES!

Listen to all those DT players talk about each other and its all respect and admiration. Then you get to IT. He wont accept his part. He thinks getting voted to do a job you're good at is the same as being liked.

Uh Jordan was the last one to join the team bc he wasn’t going to do it due to his golfing charities time needed w his kids and he wasn’t on the list of selections for the committee to choose from. Isiah knew he wasn’t going to be on that team do to the other players and their problems w him even his coach decided not to add him bc of the rifts. Jordan was affirming he wouldn’t be on the team. Why would he want to play w a person that has openly admitted he gave and authored the Jordan Rules to stop him, Salley has said it, Rodman has said it whereby they were out to hurt him. Karma

Uh Jordan was the last one to join the team bc he wasn’t going to do it due to his golfing charities time needed w his kids and he wasn’t on the list of selections for the committee to choose from. Isiah knew he wasn’t going to be on that team do to the other players and their problems w him even his coach decided not to add him bc of the rifts. Jordan was affirming he wouldn’t be on the team. Why would he want to play w a person that has openly admitted he gave and authored the Jordan Rules to stop him, Salley has said it, Rodman has said it whereby they were out to hurt him. Karma

@@eyebelieve3 For real Isiah need to let it go. Purely BBall wise he should of been there. But a few key players didnt want to spend the off season with him. Its like the school bully crying because he wasnt invited to the birthday party.

@@bobbymarsh1 apparently even Coach Daly prefer Dumars than Thomas and that would hurt Thomas more.

Because you embarrassed Stockton by dropping 44 points on him.

​​@@TheCruzan26Yet they have the audacity to call Zeke the dirtiest player. Stuff was being done to this man because he TORCHED them.. Then when he reacted ZEKE was the one being crucified for being dirty...smfh. Also he didn't respect or bow down to Jordan and the league who was scared and in awe of Jordan couldn't stand that Zeke beat Jordan more than any of the ICONS besides Bird. So those other players who needed Jordan's marketing to transcend the NBA to an international game was being exposed. Isiah showed you didn't have to be afraid or bow down to Jordan and his crap... That lack of shaking his hand after the ECChampionship was the straw... But that was because of the nasty stuff Jordan, Phil Jackson, and Pippen had said about their being the champions and how they didn't deserve it. So yeah, I'm not shaking your hands after you made that public and tried to tarnish my Accomplishments BEFORE you even got to this point??? I'm not shaking your hands either. Jordan and the bulls got what they deserved after that and Jordan will bever be considered the goat as far as I'm concerned... And Magic should be ashamed of himself!!!

@@apostlej.k.diamond4119 Say it loud. Jordan was propped up by Nike Inc. & David Stern who needed a new marketing figure since Bird & Magic were retiring. Pistons punched the Bulls in the face and they all still bitter to this day about it. Love Zeke, he was stone cold.

Isiah

Get over it

He made sure the kid didn't grow up a spoiled brat and he worked hard and made 5 million before he was 30. Some 13 year old girls do look much older and I've heard she was 5'10" at the time and he was 19 or 20. Probably thought he'd get kicked out of the league if he acknowledged the kid. Not the right thing to do but I doubt you're perfect either.

Okay, judge perfect...

Dude shut up...I have a hard time reading your comments, because I don't know what your past is like as well. Maybe you didn't have sex a 13 yr old, maybe you had one with a 17 year even though you're 33...

Well don't listen then why hell u comments get hell out here

That’s a great point. Daly was as culpable or more responsible for the strategy, than Isaiah could’ve been.

Jordan is a straight up hypocrite!!! Hated the Bad Boys, but welcomed Rodman with open arms.

​@@aaronjackson9385 MJ23GOAT 🤣🤣🤣

@@joebidens_touchyhands9477 him being the GOAT doesnt change what I stated.

@@aaronjackson9385 how many hard foul did Rodman give him vs zeke..

He's lying! Stockton couldn't hold Thomas jock!

@@carltonfelder5528 totally agree.

@@carltonfelder5528 Stockton only has 6,745 more assists than IT

he will shake them hands.

Zeke would make sure Portland drafted MJ and not his hometown 😒

I don’t think they cared about Pippen more than IT unlees MJ said something to back up Pippen

Magic didnt want him on the team. They had a falling out in the FInals a couple of years before. In short, a lot of people didnt want Isiah on the team

​@@DensDaPens mj, bird, and magic were the ones that didn't want him on the team. Mj had a bitch reason. Bird and magic definitely had a good reason.

​@protipskiptoendofvideoandr286 what was their good reason?

​@@kuunami Right lol shyt I wanna kno too!!!

Yea a legend

​@@jimmyboogie A legend child rapist

@@jimmyboogie sure

@CLUTCHgene u damn right he is

@Mike Killagreen I bet u wouldn't tell that to his face he snack ur little girl ass down

This is what I’ve been saying all this time!

Exactly!

That’s weird as hell to me.

MJ took Chicago from Isaiah

Karl is sweettalking so hard you would thing Zeke had a 12-year-old daughter.

thank you

You weak indoctrinated simps 🙄

​@@whobitmyname 💯

Everyone was physical in that era and everyone had enforcers on their team that enforced the NO LAY UP RULE!!! It was ok when McHale clotheslined Rambis? Celtics got into more fights than anyone in the 80's

​@@realmusicentertainmentcompanyit was a matter of perception. They chose to be the bad boys and we're proud of it.

@@realmusicentertainmentcompany there’s a difference between playing physical and literary grabbing people and throwing them in the lane. That’s why everyone swung on them

Thank you

Consider this, I'm willing to say that not everyone liked bird, malone, ewing or jordan. But as for their abilities on the court, that was undeniable. So I think Isiah should have been on the squad.

Jordan’s the goat not denying it…………. He’s the reason Thomas wasn’t there. Mike Jordan and Scotty PIP. It was stupid and childish for Jordan to be that way. Jordan was a shit talker too. He was just as much a cunt as Thomas

FACT 💯

​@@raya472 I understand Isiah feelings are hurt but you reap what you sow. Second, why didn't Coach Daley fight for him? I'm just asking? I think Zeke was a great player and should have been on the team but the USA basketball committee made the final decision.

They didn't need to invite Malone, this man gave him a face breaking elbow. They knew he didn't want him there. Thing is when you listen to all the greats of that team talk about each other there is mad love and respect. Then you get to IT. He just wont accept the part he played in it.

Malone should let Isiah get a free hit 🥊

​@@TheTone37 🤣🤣 fr

Nothing new! That is a trend now. Everyone ( At least most) that had a old "beef" are getting together and mending differences.

Would love to see Full interview. Isaiah after playing, definitely seems like ok guy. But definitely 30yrs & he's STILL hurt. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

​@@mvjr7758 If you don't understand being hurt over something in your playing past, you've never been an athlete at any competitive level.

MJ a bitxch for that

EXACTLY, it was a marketing decision and MJ flexed his power at that time. Like most determined people Michael can carry a grudge forever until he gets you back. Isiah's biggest sin "was holding a winning record against him AND disrespecting him after Bulls beat the bad boys in 1990".

Exactly, why does he feel he needs an explanation? Bottom line, he wasn’t liked in that era because of his actions and attitude. Plus he wasn’t good enough for that team.

​@@brimtime8117 Not good enough? Nigga please.

@@jasonarno9560 other than the college kid, who was he better than? Can’t wait to hear this one.

@@brimtime8117 On an, let alone YOUR A.T.T. you'll take Mullin-Drexler over Zeke??

@@jasonarno9560 wtf are you talking about?

What was the unsportsmanlike behavior?

​@@KB-qk1ic by not shaking Jordan's hand after that playoff loss

@@hsny76h4l9 so why was Larry Bird on the dream team when he and his Celtics did the same thing to Isiah and the pistons in '88?

@@KB-qk1ic they left the game with 8 sec left

@@Rooski245 Dantly was at the free throw line when the Celtics starters left the game. McHale shook hands before leaving though

“As a man” Karl is hilarious 😂. Wanna talk about being a man yet he couldn’t be one for his daughter or the little girl he knocked up. And dudes are actually defending his pedo behavior. Crazy ish

Oh yeah, because family 👪 are always loyal and do good by you. Go somewhere with your Disney fairy tale 🧚‍♀️ thinking

his son, who you refer to, actually has a great relationship with him today. Stop reading fake news if you want to speak on something, clown.

​@@younglove3362he got more likes......

Probably should have shook hands with the bulls after they lost in the playoffs. maybe he'd have gold medals

​​​@@biz09ificationBird and the Celtics did the exact same thing with them when they knocked off Boston. Zeke had to practically grab McHale as they walked off before the game was over. Zeke actually gave McHale five showing respect for the Champs The Bull's didn't show any respect to them. What's funny is Mike was so gracious every time they lost. But were very disrespectful when they won. M.J. even said they were bad for the NBA and basketball 🏀 period. And the media, and Shytown and all the people in the Michael hold Deez nuts Jordan fanatic club ate it up. So Mike was being fake as hell when he lost and when he won against the Pistons. Never in history of the NBA had a team who beat a two time defending champion been so disrespectful in victory, never!!! One more thing Zeke won a gold 🏅 in 79.

@landrewilkinson7993 lol he can have his gold in 79 that no one remembers. He never got to play on the best team ever assembled. The bulls shook hands every time the pistons knocked them out of the playoffs, and jordan wished them luck in the finals even though their regarded as the dirtiest team in history. The difference between the celtics and the pistons is that the celtics could actually play and didn't base their whole game and image around being dirty and rough. That's why everyone remembered the 'badboys' walkout, and no one remembered the celtics walkout. And is wasn't because Jordan's bulls didn't show respect it's because they got swept when their football style wasn't working anymore. No 3 peat for isiah and no dream team 😢

You wrote it like his last name is Carrie. Smh.

@biz09ification Yeah the Pistons got tired of whipping the Bull's ass.They had accomplished their mission by knocking off the top dogs who had multiple championships the Lakers and the Celtics. What championship team did the Bull's beat in their 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆championship dynasty? The old ass slow time Lakers..All that soft ass shit the Bull's were dissing the Pistons. They waited until they Finally won to talk that soft ass shit. One more thing Real Shytown folks remember Zeke winning a gold medal 🏅 and we still got love for Zeke. While MJ was acting like a little child. "I ain't gonna play if the stud who whipped my ass so much plays. I'm taking my ball and go home "😪🥺😢😆😎🚬

As he just said, he was voted in by his peers as union president over and over.

You are probably the type who likes labelling and isolating others

@@bball42242442Possibly because he was good for business. Doesn’t mean they personally liked him. Hell Zeke had issues with everyone on the Dream Team if you remember

​@@bball42242442cause he was that union typa dude

Yup, he's wearing a smile, but there's hurt in those eyes

Jordan is gonna be the last thing Thomas sees in his deathbed.

​@@richardruss30 The only thing he keeps talking about is the Dream Team and the other is LeBron greater than MJ.

Can you blame him. Being deprived of playing for your country is like being deprived of being a parent. It's an honor yet a responsibility. Playing for a league championship is one thing. Playing for you country and winning a medal is a much higher level.

They can never make it right. They can only apologize.

Over who though? Magic and Stock were better PGs.

@@dawsonsschittcreek5395 Magic and Isaiah were the best PG's period.

It was the NBA that didn’t want Isaiah on the team. The brand of Bball he and the Pistons represent is not how they want to market the game globally.

@@dawsonsschittcreek5395 that must be one heck of a drug you on. Zeke is arguably the 2nd Best PG ever lol Him not being on the team is wrong. There was one man meeting: It’s Name was Michael Jordan. If Zeke was on the team, MJ wouldn’t have played. The meeting was and will always be MJ. No one else knew about it because they weren’t privy to the information.

Should have been Shaq

That was a blatant attempt to disrespect Isaiah 💯

Facts

Someone had to carry the bags. LOLOLOL

​@@keithsmith8975Shaq wasn't a better college player. Laettner was way better than him then, even Shaq admits that.

He was a dirty player

I agree with EVERYTHING you said

He was arguably the best pg in the league at the time

​@Xan Frank it could've maybe been argued but they only kept 2 PGs. Magic had come back to play and stock made all nba and all defensive 2nd team, led the league in assists and steals. Ike hadn't had any awards other than a finals win and MVP in the prior 5 years. He'd also played most of the season and lost in the 1st round after missing 1/3 of the previous season. He really only would've made that team over magic and stock out of a sign of a respect, that most players didn't have for him

It's not about needing him. Shit they didn't need a lot of those players on that team to win the Olympics. Only a few winners were on that team that won Championships. And there wasn't any point guard on that team that was fucking with Zeke. You need to quit it

@@lbseason540 Magic Johnson wasn’t “fucking” with Zeke? He was two years removed from an MVP season. Magic didn’t want him, Mike and Pip didn’t want him, Chuck didn’t want him. Isiah made his own bed.

Lame af

Zeek wasn't a dirty player.If he was the players wouldn't voted him in as union president every year.Magic and the NBA is the reason he was left off the team.Magic and him fellout and he didnt kiss the NBA asses.Have you watch how much fun the dream teamers had with Zeek in all those all star games thur the years?

​@@clayjohnson5812are you from the US? Why you think the likes of Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton become President?

That's what I was searching for.

It was to recognize the amateur program they were replacing. Political/ marketing. Laettner, was a Timberwolve that up coming season, I think... I think. Could have been the following

And that college player wasn't even Shaquille O'Neal

Affirmative actiob

@@dgreatest7303Laettner, like him or hate him , was a TREMENDOUS college basketball player. One of the greatest ever at the collegiate level. Mediocre pro admittedly. He wasn’t added to the team because he’s white. He was added because USA Basketball mandated that one collegiate player be added to the roster. And he was the best college player in the nation at the time - without question.

Anthony Davis did the same exact thing back in 2012. Played for the US team straight after college.

Oh plz Jordan was a ego maniac butthole who slugged teammates,y'all so hypocritical with your comments

If that is the case no Bull, Celtic, Laker or Jazz player should have been on the dream team since they all did the same & worst as the Pistons did.

@Jason SkyWalker 😂😂not even close. The game was way more physical overall, but there was only one team called the bad boys for a reason.

They let an immigrant and a college kid take his place how disrespectful was that

​@@JasonWalkerJamaica ..LMFAO..the bad boys were the worst in the history of the game, they even admitted to trying to hurt people.

Even his Detroit coach wasnt in his corner. Cause.... effect. He isn't willing to reflect on himself, and so he will never know why.