The ability of the singer to design so lovely melodies on top of so complex music and odd time signature is really unique. What an incredible band Karnivool is....
It doesn't sound like Tool, but the intentions are the same. Heavy ambience for example, the importance of bass guitar, the audio effects, dark psychedelia, deep and personal lyrics, feeling over technicality, focusing on the art side etc etc... They are different but yet they leave the same taste after I listen to them. That is why they are my favorite bands.
The more I listen to this album, the more I love it. That’s what I love about progressive music. You hear something different in the music every time it seems.
This is why I love karnivool, they make some of the absolute most coolest sounding music I’ve ever heard. Like you couldn’t mistake the first minute of this song for any other band at all.
This is really good music, experimental yet it still has valuable meanings and insightful lyrics and manages to evoke certain feelings in me, above all it rocks. Tool are my favourite band and all though I can hear some definite similarities, I think Karnivool are a unique and very talented band in their own right.
I know there's something wrong stop making it up We're too proud to see we've lost more than our trust And now there's nothing left, well's dead and dried up Its disease has left a foul taste in our cup It just keeps on flowing And we drift on knowing It just keeps on flowing This babble from our mouth Who we are I fear most of the time Carry on shuffling in order and in line Who we are I fear most of the time Carry on whipping boy, stare into the light Stare into the light And it feels familiar for good reason I want us to break the case we're in With one of the tools of this catatonic skin Remove all the parts I want us to face the shape we're in A world of confusion awaits our sons and kin Lets reset it all Lets reset it all Well it stings and it hurts, is this how it's meant to be Well it stings and it hurts, is this how it's meant to be Well it stings and it hurts, a small price to pay to be In control and rebirth what our future's meant to be Who we are I fear most of the time So carry on whipping boy, stare into the light I want us to face the shape we're in A world of confusion awaits our sons and kin Let's reset it all (we are, we are, we are) Let's reset it all (we are, we are, we are) These words of wisdom come with lack of vision This is the first day I've ever had to stand and witness These words of wisdom come with lack of vision This is the first day I've ever had to stand and witness These words of wisdom come with lack of vision This is the first day I've ever had to stand and witness These words of wisdom come with lack of vision This is the first day I've ever had to stand and witness These words of wisdom come with lack of vision This is the first day I've ever had to stand and witness
Shut up and listen, if you judge before you listen just go judge yourself because everything deserves a shot. I am a karnivool fan so rock on karnivool, NEVER STOP PLAYING MUSIC!!!
I agree with "prog metal nerds" and a lot of "new prog" bands are like that, but that's one of the reasons i love Karnivool - they seem to make coherent music that is musical; you can actually sing it, hum it, it can move you, both emotionaly and phisically, their knowledge of time signatures, song structures, harmony surves a purpose and is not a focal point and they seem to enjoy it while they're playing infront of people, something that all the perfectionist nerds in the genre are missing.
Ian Kenny's vocals are very similar to Maynard James Keenan which isn't a bad thing. Karnivool have a cool unique sound and one of the best prog rock/metal bands around today. One of the most underrated groups ever as well.
Very similar is a bit of a stretch... I have no idea why people are obsessed with comparing Tool to Karnivool, they're really quite different. Something like Soen is a better Tool comparison.
+Lachlan Jadezak both karnivool and soen are different from tool, but they are clearly inspred by tool music, for example the use of the guitar not only as a base or to make solos, but also to make strange effects and change the atmosphere, and also the drums are no more only to be a base but they are the main instrument of the song, they don't follow a unique rithm but it always change, and moreover the vocals are similar too. Karnivool and soen started from these point and then made their own sounds that are unique and that have nothing to do with tool and with any other group, in particular karnivool. I think the cannot be classified in a particular rock movement or generation, i think we can only classify them as tool followers. For soen there is also a big opeth influence, in karnivool i can't find any group other than tool
Ian and Maynard have similar textures to their voices but that's where the similarities stop IMO. I'd say musically they have more in common with Mastodon.
Didn't the Tool / Karnivool comparison died out already? Be thankful for both true artist bands making excellent music in a time most needed We need more of them not 1 to rule them all childish bs...
my 29 yr old son just shared this video with me .. With all the talk about comparison with Tool.. I get it.. But they are so clean sounding and vocals are clear... I like it.. and I'll be 60 this year... Amazing sound. Thanks you guys for sharing..
At 4:40 and specially at 4:49 there's a second vocal line singing something like "We won't go back... no more...etc". In the "live on triple j" version It's much more evident, but I can't get the words. If someone can take a shot, I'd really appreciate it. Cheers
+Diego de la Fuente "we won't look back, or flee no more." Is all I can get. i have nfi what the first line is. "*something something something* them all" as per 06:09 of the triple J version? *shrug*
Man I had the most crazy dream last night, I was at a concert an A perfect circle concert and all the sudden Jack white comes out and started singing and then at the end there was Michael Jackson too. Fuck. I was not high by any means. Hahahahaha cool dream.
So long as we think we know anything at all we're pretentious, because reality as any of us know it is only one slice of the cake (I must be hungry) and we're pretending it's the whole (hemhem). I'm not compelled to worry about it, but then you are doing a music major.
Also, the Tool comparisons are getting tired. Tool is a reference point for this kind of music the same way Rush or a few other bands were to Tool when they were starting, but this is new and inspired music following a musical evolution (and reusing of elements that is a constant in music). It's more progressive in a sense of moving on with new ideas then it is in song structure or inovative playing of members' respective instruments.
Maybe "far more" is a little bit exaggerated, perhaps after all these years listening to the same Tool records, the complexity got, well, flushed away. But when I listen to most of the Tool songs, the only "complex" component is a rather rare time signature or in songs like "The Pot" a syncopated feeling just like this song here. The thing is, I just don't come around thinking that Karnivool are more a stickler for details. Nonetheless I wouldn't say: "this band is better than the other one"
Dad gummit, I too am tired of these senseless comparisons and arguments, so I decided to do a little Google search to find the solution once and for all and shut everybody up for good. Surprisingly what I found was that "Karnivool" is a misspelling of the word "Carnival" and "Tool" is an item that you do stuff with, kind of like a hammer or a screwdriver. If you don't believe me look it up yourself.
This is far more complex than Tool. I think it's unfair to compare every modern progrock-band to Tool, just because they're todays most popular progband. Karnivool have found an own unique sound and beside the genre I don't see any similarity to Tool in their new record.
This album is way beyond the strange time signatures, it focuses on ambience and feeling over anything else. I agree with you on this situation of the prog world today, all about technicality and weirdness. That is why I absolutely loved this album, I think it is a getaway from that stereotype crap. Definitely so different than all the other "hey look we are so complicated" bands. Another one is Tool for example. (They are pretty different if you ask me but they accomplish the same thing.)
+André Pais But he's a point, you know. I just looked the tab up (sadly, they only offered a PRO tab on ultimate-guitar, but at least I found SOMETHING), and whoever made this tab had to use time signatures alternating from 11/8 to 13/8, and set it at 195 bpm. There's no way that this song is using a 3/4 time signature. It's to rhythmically complex for it to be 3/4.
actually, I'm pretty sure this song changes time signature. It's mainly 3/4, but then as the singer comes in, the time signature shifts to 15/16. Or at least I think that's how they do it. Otherwise, we may never know
So true. All this 'mine is better than yours' is totally pointless as music and taste as the universe and everything are so very unique in their incomparableness. Like it for itself and thank you for the fish. :-)
Yes - bands who write music to be in a genre are a failure in my opinion. Karnivool are not like this by any means. Their albums all have the same basic ingredients, giving a basal sound were they drift to a fro. This music comes natural to them and if it sounds like another band, so what!
DarkSpawn it doesn't sound anything like tool, other than there is a bass in the song and the time signatures are uncommonc and, basically, they are the same genre. But that would be like saying Megadeth's Tornado of Souls sounds like Metallica's Master of Puppets. They're both thrash but they are nothing alike
