"Kashtira is ruining Yu-Gi-Oh!" 

Visas alone is too powerful so they had to make decks that would give him a challenge

scareclaw when

Visas honestly makes it so that we need a new rule to make the GY way, way, way fucking weaker to never allow grass strats to ever comeback.

Don't blame Visas, the Scareclaws did nothing wrong

Bruh Scareclaw and Manadome were innocent

From playing too much to not play at all

Literally the visas starfrost lore

When will people learn that nerfing top tiers just cause does not make for a better game! lol :P

When will people learn that nerfing top tiers just cause does not make for a better game! lol :P

@@RBF__ Visas lore is just Anime Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, goes to different worlds only to see how he can fuck that world in new ways

u ppl need to adapt, I've been siding neck hunter and droll specifically for this matchup

The moment you ban Avatar of the Pot, only outlaws will make use of Avatar of the Pot.

So Hunter Dragon is not fine but Jerry Beans Man is? I smell some plant bias here

@@oxcare5 Jerry beans man is a plant, meaning he does not get the benefits of being a dragon. Dragons > plants Jerry beans man cannot be summoned using silvers cry, and does not get an attack buff from the field spell peak. Jerry beans man cannot be summoned using Lord of D etc.

y'all are sleeping on the REAL threat that is sonic bird up, sonic bird just makes the barrier statue ban compeletely irrelevant

Guards, guards! An Invoked player got in the building, help!

Based

Based Phoenix

FOOL, how will you activate Invocation if they block your S/T zones?????

Thats all it takes too.

Link Joker from Cardfight Vanguard did it first.

It is bullshit, but honestly there's a LOT of decks that can functionally ftk you with a 3 card combo and no interaction. Fuck I mean a deck literally no one has played in a year in a 3 card combo set up multiple omni negates and summon black chaos max in your draw phase to prevent you from activating monster effects.

@@stuckmeister7750 is that Drytron or smthn?

@@ashikjaman1940 yep

@@gravekeepersven82 link joker lock only last for 1 turn and bushiroad releasing more card to fight the lock mechanic like unlock rear guard and the aichi boss vg card in climax s3 for example probably someday konami tcg will release generic card to unlock, but untill then ppl has to accept the game already determine by dice roll because lock zone is pretty much unfair mechanic

visas had to assert dominance somehow

As powerful as Kashtira is Albaz lore gives you alot of choices to choose from and all are viable to play both casual and competitive.

You're forgetting Scareclaw, the 3rd sibling no one likes to talk about.

@@ratioed1438 true

@@ratioed1438 the comment doesn't fit the name :(

I agree. Can I get support for Kosmo like how y'all got for BA?

I BEG for broken Sylvan support.

....Eater Bugs support please

They should release satan and the frozen lake of cocytus tbh

Fortune Lady Tier 0 please

So what you are saying is that there are some silver linings to this format. ;)

I mean... Without Kash locking them, Pend Will still be death, lol

doesn't matter, pend best deck can still play through that

It's shown that konami hate pendulum but to make a deck that completely kills it is going way too far.

Edison is amazing, is so fucking diverse

Toss is a good format and people still complain, let alone whatever comes after

Goat sucks hairy goat balls

@mrsquadbot toss format is gonna make a comeback, give it more time it'll get there

It's probably a constantly repeating cycle of New meta comes ->no one really knows how to beat it -> Fear mongering happens (the death of YGO???) -> Strategies are being formed -> People realize it's not that bad -> Meta is well established -> New Meta comes.... And then people remember the time in which the meta was properly solved, which is frequently near the end

At least this time it dowsnt take forever to lose. Also unable to play = dealing wit those 4 negate boards, nothing new.

it is different. now we have the outs, like A LOT of them, just pick them.

Nah. Must have been unaware of the combos showcased after the new support was revealed

Yeah... locking out 5 zones on the first turn isnt exactly hard.

I remember waiting for locals to open and people would talk about the Zone locking. I was like "Kashtira locks zones? I thought they were about banishing?" "Yea no they do both."

nah zone locking is fine, but the fact it banish your hand, field, AND HALF OF OPPONENT MOTHERFUCKIGN MAIN DECK using A BOG STANDARD KASHTIRA EFFECT MONSTER that cost jackshit to summon (EVEN AT THE OPPONENTS TURN) when opponent doing basically anything at all in their first turn is fucking bullshit no cost no skill, summon 3 basic kash (or one of the xyz), 1 kash spell trap, your opponent can only hope to have DRNM or EM in their hand on their first fucking turn or else theyre fucked. without even playing the game

Most times, I only need one to lock all the opponent's zones.

Why not just ban diablosis?

This could have the side effect of making the mirror match unplayably die-rolly. Goong second, what does the Kash player do if their only Ira gets ripped?

So after the limit to Shang, the only way to beat the deck is… play diabolosis? Ie play kash?

​@@crescendo614 I'll take the die roll mirror over the "no one gets to play the game" situation we have right now

thats deep ... I hope you life will get better ma man, as someone who survived a crisis, you will come much stronger than you used to AND everything will look so small, coz you got an upgrade one way or another.

You go plus 5 when a normal trap resolves in that deck so continuous and counter traps feel really bad.

well yeah, you don't benefit from it. you use normal traps. plus you can loop Time Seal, which is better.

@@strangevol5264 looping time seal is really bad

@@Ragnarok540 you still play counter traps in order to protect your backrow from evenly and be able to break boards using weighbridge or torrential (or gozen)

So you have vowed to never play the other good cards. It's like a combo deck vowing to not play handtraps.

and who are you exactly ? everyone ? talking like you represent every single player on earth is a bit presumptuous imo.

​@@ulqi my man wasted all his money on tear lol

For real the tourney even the judges were forgetting whose turn it even was.

I wish all Tear players who bought the deck right before the banlist for the full price a pleasant evening :^)

​@@Eric-ih5mb "The tear mirror was fun" sounds like your boss saying "look work is fun"

Y'all really like to act as if Twitter was the fucking boogeyman or smthn. These are takes posted by known Yugioh players and content creators, not by whatever strawman person you imagine Twitter as

Just look at how they tackled Hogwarts Legacy...

@@azurabbit12 I dislike stawmaning as much as the next guy...but its VERY easy to find people on twitter that fit...or even exceed...every stereotype that people throw at them sadly... :(

@@Alienrun it's almost as if in one of the biggest social media platforms you can find a ton of people of a certain type if you specifically look for them and only them 😯

@@azurabbit12 No dude I'm not that kind of person. I don't use the internet that often (I used to, that's a different story) twitter even less so...I only check in on it every few months...the last time literately being today. I only had to look at like 10 posts and ALL of them had a political bias of some sort even if the post itself wasn't political. The reason it gets called out so much isn't because we all look for it a ton (like claiming a 5/10 game is horrible cause there's a few game breaking glitches that you have to search for) its because they stand out soooo much! Its almost impossible to involve yourself with any social online event without rearing your head into twitter...I literately can't avoid it even if I decide not to go on the website! Its litereatly just the way the website is designed. It just draws out people's worst qualities and incentivises arguing with each other. That...I believe...is the true reason why its referenced so much. Its very common for people to refer to twitter's opinion on something as if it were a person. You could argue something similar for Reddit or Twitch but they aren't quite at the same level...and you certainly couldn't say the same about say, youtube or facebook. I'm aware different people have different perspectives, and as a result we have different views of what "the internet" even is. But I'm a bit appaled that you claim that people having an "insane" temporment on twitter isn't the norm (for lack of a better term). Can you explain this to me more so I can understand better?! :O

Not having to worry about Bystials is so nice for most rogue decks too! It let Despia and Labrynth actually do their thing

@@asandynovella Labrynth doesnt give 2 shits about bystials...

​@@Jaddas it does if you lovely gets into the graveyard Which is definitely something that can happen

@@milesandrews6711 Lovely is a great card but it getting banished is not the end of the world, lady is by far the better boss monster anyways

Dani, you know that full power tear still slaughtered full power kashtira like, 70% of the time right?

That would screw them over hard lol

shut up

Silly thing is, that's what new Superheavy Samurai do with the CYAC support. Actually the most robust FTK currently ever created (hyper consistent and have strong contingency plan when fail to do so.)

@@MVAS-mp9oo Ok maybe SHS need archetypal locks on some of their new cards Jesus Christ.

The counter play will be a card that lets you skip your own draw phase... Or Master Rule 6 will allow players to choose whether or not they draw or not... Oh boy! I'm so excited to see how degenerate this game will get in the coming years! Konami is so smart cause they keep making money at our expense! hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

@@Honest_Mids_Masher Wakaushi monster eff locks you into SHS after SS an SHS from deck The thing is it's pendulum effect(the best eff) didn't lock you into anything (aside the usual zero S/T in GY)

Tear is great. People hating one of the most intricate and interactive decks ever. Actual silliness.

Why didn't anyone play Lightsworn against Ishizu tears smh

@@orga7777 Interactive in term of dealing a full tear board the moment I activate monster effect when going first?

@@orga7777 Then its play this deck or lose. Its bad.

​@@orga7777while you're at it, you can stop interacting with that crack pipe you smoking when you said that dumbass sentence about tears being great. Only a tear player will say the deck is fine since they are playing single-player mode

True, it is rare to see a format with more than 2 top decks, let alone those top decks creating interactive games of Yugioh.

seven hundred seventy-seven quintillion seven hundred seventy-seven quadrillion seven hundred seventy-seven trillion seven hundred seventy-seven billion seven hundred seventy-seven million seven hundred seventy-seven thousand seven hundred seventy-seven

Aren't dragon rulers lv7?

I thought level 5 was the most unappreciated

Seriously. People act like the Yata-lock never happened, or that's different.

I dont care if kash isnt tier 0 its still a stupid deck

Tear was an awesome format. Loved watching it compete. Fun to play and play against.

@@orga7777 maybe so, but I don’t want to spend 300$ on the only playable deck in the format to have the deck be almost completely banned in a surprise banlist

@@user-hy5ju6gl2b Every good deck is around that price.

One per turn (Quick Effect): You win the Duel.

Hey redditor.

once per turn, during any player's turn : slap your opponent on the face. if they don't respond, you win the match. also your opponent owes you 20$, and take their credit card.

Meh, Kash players won't read Marincess cards anyway so is ok. You just lose to Ariseheart which rarely comes up anyway am I rite :-)

@@arobnugzo6818 idk man the guy went undefeated and went against the winning kashtira team twice and won both times while his branded teammates lost.

supply and demand. that's the market for ya. if the price is too high and people buy it, it's not too high. if it's too high, don't buy it. konami has never set individual card prices

@@dragon-id5uj go teach basic finance to whoever asked you. You don't even consider scarcity, that variable is capable of insanely increasing the price of something. The price is high AF and it's the entry price for this format.

That could be a good thing lol. The more expensive it is, the less people would buy it. 😅

How is that a bad thing? You want these fucks to make Kash faster?

Scythe got banned because thrust can set sanctum. Mine was banned probably for money and probably because they player base was sick of it. And kashtira is fine because it is new

If Tear was GY shenanigans Kashtira is blocking monster, spell zones while being a better runick My concern's that they would have the balls to make an archetype that revolve around instant win like Exodia, but consistent

@@adityawiryawan560 maybe non-targeting quick shuffling back to deck? Also in-archetype monsters can all say this card cannot be banished. It will shoot up there real fast.

@@arobnugzo6818 Could be, but the shuffle part is more of a controller type like Exosister.

Lava Golem , Sphere mode , Nibiru and or mass boardbreakers that don't destroy are very great right now.

@@gravekeepersven82 thanks for the advice!

@@OMGJoel Evenly Matched, Destructive Daruma Cannon, Weighbridge are all good too

I wish that was the case but there are like 2-3 people who spent the money just because they basically just win for free. Even the best players in the store aren’t in it

@@ericpontarelli1690 well that's just boring XD but what's you're price support because even for winning locals (4rounds usually) you get 2 ots packs so it's literally not worth XD

Unfortunately not, I went to my first locals just the other day and I shit you not all my match ups were playing Kash

Yep that was when I left. Spright first then Tear.

Every meta deck folds to targeted hate... The issue is not oh i can just Dark Hole them the issue is how much do you have to dedicate parts of your deck to the sole purpose of breaking boards and not hamper your chances vs other decks / grind games / actually winning after clearing a board. Good luck having a single chance vs Kash without relying on non-engines (or playing a deck that is full of non engine removals like Labrynth in the first place)

Your comment is funny because you are wrong. It folds to targeted hate, so its just a game of "do i draw the out or not", which simply isnt fun or skillrewarding, but thats not even 100% true. It folds to the targeted hate it chooses to not play around. Kashtira can play around almost every counter there is for the deck, but not at the same time. So its literally just a gamble of "does he play around the out i drew or the out i didnt". Its a pure guessing game.

I agree

​@@malmarci that's not a bad thing. No deck should be 100% engine.

Just bc it folds to target hate doesn't mean the deck isn't a problem. Just like tears, they are unhealthy for the game and are just one big middle finger to other decks

WhoLetHimJoel

If you want to win you play the best decks it’s very simple actually

It’s what they like, they just hate when their on the losing end.

No shit, people like winning

Was tearelements toxic?

People playing the best decks for a better chance at winning?!!? 😱😱😱😱

Same as usual with Yu-Gi-Oh! Meta “you can’t do anything but 1-2 mechanics, now try and break my multinegate board or scoop”.

@@markjacobs3232 I mean...I don't think Kash by itself puts up ANY negates whatsoever, just zone locks, macro cosmos, and the Ariseheart banish

Incorrect. The winning team were all playing Forbidden Lance for just that reason. It was what put them over the edge to win the event. I expect to see it pretty much in every build going forward. So... better draw Nib/Lava Golem. And hope they don't play around it like some top teams were doing by just going Ariseheart pass, which is enough sometimes.

@@orga7777 That's exactly what I was trying to get at with my comment lol Mystic Mine decks would play cards like Judgment and Beat Cop in a similar manner, that is, to counter the counters. This means the game would just boil down to "have the specific out in your deck, draw it, and hope your opponent didn't draw their out to the out."

Lol. If you're not "preparing" for Kash you're not winning shit.

I really hope you are trolling...

@@claire6452 yea it was kind of a joke but not really. I genuinely believe this is currently one of the best formats ever if you don't take into account Kashtira. I don't believe Kashtira is too bad compared to other threats on it's level in the past, but it's still ridiculous and does bog down the format as the defacto best deck. Besides Kash though, the amount of representation is stunning. I was joking about the Kash part though

@@Jaddas kind of? Read my earlier reply if you wanna hear my take

@@RayneDeoman Idk what you mean. What's the best things after Kashtira? Branded? WRONG. Labrynth. Floodgate. What's after that? Maybe you think Spright is good. W/e, it's just setting up negate boards. Ain't that fun. Go past that and yeah, you'll get to branded and swordsoul. Great, a format already beaten to death might crawl back into playability. The power level being lower isn't going to make rogue deck stand out more. Deck that couldn't beat swordsoul 2 years ago aren't going to do it now either. The only rogue deck that can steal win will be the ones that can monkey flip a floodgate and win on its back just like before tear happened. Labrynth is just the best at doing that right now.

Unban Mind Master with P.U.N.Ks around, I wanna see blood!

20 card extra deck *LETS GO!*

*Prosperity triples in price

It's beatable not super beatable but it's still pretty unfun and puts people in a draw the out situation

Tears was like if they were on Meth and they learned how to abuse the matrix.

​@@Honest_Mids_Masher Tear there was literally no out... why is no out better than draw the out?

@@finbao There were outs. They just were not all consistent. The mirror match was so good that it doesn't matter. What does a mirror match of Kashtira look like? Depression is the answer.

kashtira only has one of those things.

@@strangevol5264 I know, but i do thing that any one of those is just effect no cards should have, (maybe the god card support, i don't really care for that). As each and every effect like this will create an unfair/unfun situation.

also while we are at it, any kind of turn skips and handloop cards. (and i guess even removing cards from your opponents extra)

literally tearlament didnt have any of those u listed and still was tier 0 so

@@Dori_Dorifto yes, so? I didnt said these mechanica will make a good deck, or anything like that. I just said, these mechanics will make for unfun gameexperiences. And while tear might have been tier 0, it gave space to back and fort gameplay. All these mechanics i listed decrese interactivity, while tears problem was too much interaction.

Man I'm just glad I was given a different type of autism than you got

@@bren8511 you have to realize, I've been playing this since it literally first came out and I've been through every single format, emergency banlist and everything else Konami has come up with in-between. Believe me when I say that you can find a way to play around ANYTHING that comes up....

I'll cope with you brother those cards are hella cool

Just ban Diablosis

@@fudouakio4759 I mean, you're still getting zone locked regardless. I do agree it stops having to buy two 100 dollar staples to compete. But that's why konami won't do that. They want you to have to buy more than one. That's the point.

@@Shmackle123 you’re not getting zone locked nearly as hard without diablosis

Fenrir to 1, ban mindhacker, deck is fine

Everything about their cards are poorly realized.

Tear was like a third of the price of Kashtira. It wasn't that expensive.

True i also cant wait for it

‘Looking Forward’? Formats been like this for years 😂

@@Dat_WEEB 😂😂😂 i was thinking that but didnt want to be too mean it isnt that bad if you open bloss

*activates cup of ace* JUST DON'T MISS! DON'T MISS!!!! - Farfa...probably