Just came upon this video. I want to validate your experience by saying that I witnessed how she hurt people with her manipulations and misuse of her psychological training. I hope you continue to heal and find joy in your life.
Many ‘I’s 1.Plato 1.Cave 2.Ship of State-Fools 2.Judaism 1.Tower of Babel 1.The inability to “Ascend to Heaven” due to the Fragmentation of the Self 3.Marselle Tarot 1.Fool with Stick & Bundle 4.Everyman 5.Multifaceted Harlequin 6.Legion 7.Yazidis 1.Melek Taus the Peacock Angel with many “Eyes” 8.Buddhism 1.Skandhas 9.Jung 1.Personas 10.David Hume 1.Bundle Theory of the Self 11.Pierre Janet 1.Multiple Personalities & Dissociation Theory 12.William James 1.Pluralistic Theory of the Normal Self 13.Hypnosis & Hypersuggestibility 1. Incongruence-Congruence 14.Natural Vernacular 1.“Part” 15.Bodies & Centers 1.Hinduism 1.Chakras 2.Kosas 16.Romanticism 1.Frankenstein’s Monster 2.Friedrich Schlegel’s Fragments
Charismatic, but the proof is in the pudding. Her daughter sees her as much less than having been a caring parent and from the daughter's account, image superceded substance I once was one of her students and she cultivated all the elements of a cult although, like most cults, there was a lot of good within the teachings and some of the practices.
If someone has personal experience of what they are talking about . . . they almost invariably end up describing it in language (choice of words, grammatical constructions, "style" . . .) that is unique to them. Speeth, on the other hand, obviously just parrots well-known INTELLECTUAL accounts of OTHER people's experience of the Gurdjieff Work. It's the difference between reciting an abstract definition of something from a dictionary . . . and describing an actual concrete encounter with it.
Because modern science as it is called base point is in only certain parts of one center, intellectual center. How only one center can be aware of other centers?
yea, i guess that happens a lot in the jungle of spiritual schools and systems. after some years people develop a spiritual ego they must nourish and protect.
No self remembering whatsoever. A great lesson, that even those exposed to the direct teaching of Gurdjieff, that is, in the presence of his presence. Understood rien..
Phil . I wonder if the self remembering and how it cannot be sustained for long is akin to looking at an object without moving the eyes and how the object is supposed to vanish , as the eye needs a changing stimulus to work properly . Self remembering is very difficult for me . What are your thoughts ?
thats too bad... feel sory for u. i would like to think that everyone who came in contact with Gurdjieff became better people. but thats of course just my own romantic side speaking.
I've read this woman's book on Gurdjieff. It's clear to me that she doesn't in fact know what she's talking about. She's in her own little fantasy world about it . . .
