Kavanaugh Asks Lawyer What Would Happen To Homeless People After Leaving Jail For Sleeping Outside 

It's a classic tactic to make them go elsewhere. The Powers That Be don't care where they go so long as it isn't where the PTB can see them. It the newest version of Sundown Laws, and Vagrancy statutes that make 'Loitering' a crime as is defined by the officer's graces. A bunch of loud rich teens 'hanging out' at McFood is fine, but a group of poor (or non-white) teens in the same situation will be hassled for 'disturbing the peace'.

Classic catch-22

The government is notorious for ADDING obstacles to functioning, making your situation worse, just because they want to punish you for your situation without helping you do anything meaningful. The services they are talking about are also unavailable to most of us or are punitive and require you to fix yourself before they help you fix yourself. "What? Do you have a drug addiction? Kick that habit and be sober before you can have shelter! Oh, and our rehoming service has no homes, a two-year waiting list, and is out of funding." That kind of thing.

It costs a lot of money to be poor in the USA. Profit over people is the foundation of the USA.

It probably works as well as taking driver's license because one is too down to pay child support, nothing like shoving people down who are already down.

This part

I don't think Jesus would be cool with forcing people into this shit.

​@The_Gallowglass he probably wouldn't be super into arresting people for being poor, either. That's american "Christians" for you.

Faith is best when grown under threat from the state

@@The_Gallowglass ya think

Things take time? They want them off the street while this is arranged

​@@datswassup9902 No, they want them in jail. They could care less if they have to walk on the streets somewhere after they and if they get out of jail. You can't as easily fulfill your State contracts with private incarceration companies to ensure that the agreed percentages between States and those companies is satisfied pertaining to beds filled as a percentage of the total beds in facilities if they've made a deal between them. One reason they like making those deals if they can is that incarceration might be cheaper and less use of taxpayer dollars when companies and state governments companies can come to an agreement to outsource incarceration to the private sector. And of course, if you're running a jail for cash operation, it's a sweet deal for you,... Because if the state doesn't pull through, you've got a potential suit on your hands for a little extra moola, or at least the threat of one, which drives some people in government whether they know _why_ they are doing what they are doing, or not, to lean toward locking people up when in doubt, and/or they do know why the pressure to do so is extra and they recognize that homeless people are low hanging fruit and either way might end up abandoning and/or neglecting their intellectual integrity despite not being able to address basic logical conflcting points of view, thus furthering supply and the potential rate of supply, which makes it easier to run a business.

Things take time? Just because the City is bad at its job doesn’t mean they have to punish ppl for it

That phrase -put you in tough with resources- is a joke. That's what you say when you are passing the buck. And news flash! There are no resources.

@@jeremym1288 the city isn't responsible for feeding you and clothing you, the city also doesn't wipe your ass when you're done please stop begging and complaining the government gives out infinite free money and food if you can just sign up for it, online or otherwise, I know this because I've gotten some of it before, stop crying stop putting people at blame that aren't at blame the world isn't an adult daycare

Or a job

No one is guaranteed anything. That is why we have jobs. If people don’t want to work, that is their problem.

​@@rideordis810 and if stores purposefully understaff to give their CEOs a bigger pay cut, that's _also_ our problem! How balanced, how ideal! Hey, when's the last time you or a college graduate you know sent out a resume to get a job with no connections?

It is not illegal to be homeless in California. But there is trespassing laws also known as sedentation laws which means you can stay within a specific place unless you have business or move after a duration of time. These laws also apply if you’re living in your car. There is no law that require you to have a house or a home.

It' not illegal to be homeless, or an idiot.

This lawyer does not care one way or the other. She is being paid by her immoral clients to argue their case without any moral obligation whatsoever. It's the banality of evil.

Public spaces tend to become occupied by somebody. I have heard of street thugs charging the homeless money to use free public facilities like bathrooms or water fountains. On the other hand,, arresting the homeless only makes them hide themselves.

She wants to force her religion on people and is targeting the most vulnerable. She wants the law to help. Sociopathic

And she tries to use rhetoric from our republican nanny state ideal. That it is unethical and dangerous to live homeless. So instead to letting you live homeless, we will use public money that could just as well have gone to a month or two of rent and use it to pay for our authoritarian enforcement of ethics.

well the solution is obvious. capitalism doesn't work. and that makes you a commie. so you will always have vacant housing and homeless people.

Having an anxiety issue, from being in the Army, I may just choose to stick around, in a fight or flight response and watch the legal system bury itself.

If one is a drug addict or mentally ill, they aren't looking for a job anyway.

@@mothernature8893 true, however a lot of people who are mentally ill with the right medications are able to be fuctioning members of society. If they are unwilling or unable to take their meds that's a different story.

@@Sylent35 I agree, that is possible. Unfortunately, without continual supervision, many, if not most will stop taking their medications sooner or later. Oftentimes they will think they are better and don't need meds anymore or they don't like the side effects.

@@mothernature8893 I was in EMS for 25+ years, I know how hard it is to get people to take their meds regularly. The problem is we spend so much on locking people up rather than ensuring they have meds and are taking them it's a losing battle. I can tell you I have spent plenty of my own money to help people get their medications and doing "follow ups" I can't even begin to know how much money or time I've spent trying to help people. This is NJ btw.

@@mothernature8893problem is, most homeless people have no drug addictions or mental health issues, and have jobs.

The law is probably unfair, but that doesn’t make it unconstitutional

Why would you say it though? Is it an amendment violation?

This supreme court doesn't seem to care about what is constitutional......they have already proven that several times

It’s very constitutional. The constitution allows for some awful things, including slavery, still.

@@catsrule8844 actually the 13th amendment to the constitution took care of slavery, but you are correct according to the original writing of the constitution.

They don’t want to help them, they just don’t want to have to see them.

They don't want to help them. They want them to leave.

Homeless shelters can be even more dangerous than being on the streets. One of my friends went to one when he was 19 and he was raped his only night there.

Her job is to defend the law and in this case being as vague as possible is the best approach because it's a ridiculous law 😂

Lawyers and politicians are experts at this

And we wonder why there’s homelessness?

Purposely vague as not to let slip that the intention is to criminalize homelessness and poverty.

All these people typing feverishly about charity, while I don't see them opening their homes to these folks. @@williamryan9195

Most of us sat in school for 8 hours a day You either want to be homeless or not I say this as an atheist raised catholic

@@datswassup9902 Hey, I don't like you either buddy, maybe they should round you up too? seems legit, since that's your argument. If living was easy our economy wouldn't be fucked right now.

I concur, you are one of the few who thinks this way. Love and light is with you , awe, have a blessed joyous and productive day 🌹❤️

Yes, and to consider it costs $106,000 a year for each prisoner in Ca.

@@mkgreen9750 , Thank you, I have been meaning to look this information up.🌹❤️

They want to be able to not have homeless camps on public parks and sidewalks… have you been to Los Angeles?

Going to jail is better than living on the streets. And you’re not going to jail because you’re homeless, you’re going to jail because you broke the law.

Last I heard in my area the waiting list is about 18 months.

@@jennywolford4102put the non-profits in prison or have them face the wall. Stop the homeless industrial complex.

That’s what made me so mad is tents are more permanent shelters than homeless shelter because most homeless shelters don’t let people stay for more than a few months at a time. Also she wants the lady to give up her dog which is pure evil and even alludes to the fact that other people in these shelters can be dangerous. She is evil.

Which has been exacerbated greatly by the corporate takeover of the housing market driving rentals skyward for several years now. There's no ed in sight to that money grab.

True. Democrats have used nonstop open immigration since 1967, high taxes, and over regulation to put slack into the labor market year after year. Which gives all the power to employers, driving down wages, and immigration drives up housing prices at the same time. To the point that tens of millions of Americans don't have any money left over at the end of the month. It's the low wages and lack of power at the bottom that allows the excesses at the top. Causing the wealth gap. Compare that to JFK style conservative policies of using low taxes, smaller government, deregulation, and less immigration to tighten up the labor market. Which gives power back to workers. Raises wages. Allows for advancement. Allows for mobility. Allows people with bad job records or few skills to get jobs. And gives people dignity. If Democrats actually cared about lower income people and were capable of compassion and empathy, they would be Kennedy/Reagan conservatives. You can’t be for big government, big taxes, and big bureaucracy and still be for the little guy.”.......Ronald Reagan The ever expanding power of the federal government, the absorption of many of the functions that states and cities once considered to be responsibilities of their own, must now be a source of concern to all those who believe as did the great patriot, Henry Grattan that: “Control over local affairs is the essence of liberty.” Commencement Address, University of Notre Dame, January 29, 1950.....John F.Kennedy

Not to mention the housing shortage

@@sandarahcatmom9897 I agree!

@sandarahcatmom9897 Not just corporate. Have a look at California's regulations and permitting process for building new houses. That is a big factor in the shortage of housing at affordable prices.

Doesn't even seem thinly veiled. They're making homelessness a crime!

They want them to go to jail where they can’t be seen by their delicate, wanting-to-be ignorant, eyes. God forbid we are confronted every day by visible signs of our failed economic system that we continue to sustain.

Move to another city. She had no answer as to how it would help deal with homelessness because that was never the goal, they just want to force them out of their city (it was the explicitly stated goal of the rule when it was adopted).

I have heard that from a few different homeless people. They say their stuff gets stolen or they are locked out after a certain time. One lady worked two jobs but couldn't get to the shelter before 9pm because she didn't get off work until 11pm so she slept in her car most nights and only used the shelter to shower and get a hot meal on her days off.

@@ginadelsasso288 There's a large homeless encampment near where I live. Many of the people who live there work regular minimum-wage jobs nearby at a trendy shopping center. Most homeless people aren't homeless because of drug addiction, it's that they got priced out of their own homes

I want to know how can any Judge allow any Law Enforcement that is being sued for assisting in a self-eviction to call Anyone a Trespasser in Alameda County. If the accused has never missed paying rent before the self-eviction. How can a Judge allow two contract jobs of the Person accused of not paying rent to not have their Union contracts enforced to pay their bills. That is defamation and an attack. The Judges cannot allow Law Enforcement to call People anything that is not true and illegally arrest them. The Judges definitely cannot allow Anyone to claim Someone missed Court in a case where the case was to be arbitrated or case managed by a Judge because of serious attacks on the one legally living somewhere. The law to protect People who has been paying rent where Managers and Owners knew that they were paying rent applies to Everyone not just for People the Courts like. That is a personal attack because SB-567 applies to Everyone. We know how many Residences are legally where we stay. We definitely do not need Strangers from any Community to ever not be held liable when they try to tell us where we live. This is an outrage. If the law wants People to comply to outside living. The law has to enforce the ones who are not homeless that is being attacked. We are not illegally watched. We are called and contacted and the Courts make real rulings based on our evidence. If our doors are illegally locked. The Manager goes to jail for breaking in. We do not go to any Shelters. If our jobs are disrupted. The courts allow immediate resolution to keep us paying our bills and anything else is an outright attack on our lives and need to be addressed and resolved immediately. Any out of pocket expenses are reimbursed. The Judges should be having the Party committing the illegal lockouts to pay immediately. Unforgivable. Thanks for sharing.

She’s giving answered directly related to situations. Those situations are extremely broad and difficult to narrowly define. “Justices” are so hung up on their one biased line it has no relevance to reality. Shameful.

@@alisons9740 The justice already asked the key question and she didn't answer it; if there aren't enough homeless resources, what are they to do? There's no bias in saying there's a lack of beds for the homeless, that's an objective fact in every majority. She didn't address the supply issues and she's saying homeless people should take an option they don't want, never mind those programs will be overcapacity if they do. All the law does is clog up the jails and courts with homeless either in and out of jail or in and out of court as they're tried and imprisoned for this nonsense.

And I would say being forced by the state to attend religious services is blatantly unconstitutional. For all the uncaring, unsympathetic "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" conservatives out there.... I have a couple points. It is way more cost effective to leave them be than it is to house them in the criminal justice system (so enough with your BS about foreign aid and all of a sudden pretending to care about fiscal responsibility). And second, why do you think it's OK for the government to tell you where you can and can't sleep? You think it's ok for the government to kick you out of a public space then confiscate and destroy your belongings? That is the exact opposite of small government conservatism. Sounds more like the modern version of that which is police state fascism. What if you want to lay in the park and read a book and fall asleep? Solving homelessness is way more complicated than "out of sight out of mind" and criminalizing needing help.

Too poor to afford housing; Indoctrination camp for thee.

@@schan9547 EXACTLY

Remember to bite the hand that feeds

Being homeless is a survival situation. As such people that find themselves in that situation need to put their safety 1st even if it means making friends with a bible thumper in the next town over. Better than making friends with the predators out on the street that hunt people down on their luck. This case isn't about homelessness; it's about how society as a whole chooses to utilize its public spaces.

And it's our for profit private prisons that make it cost so much.

And it’s the members of Congress who invests in these private prisons and write the laws. 🤷🏻‍♂️

They also spend $100,000 a year for homeless programs, mental and physical health, shelters, putting them up in hotels, getting them apartments. It doesn't work. We need some kind of real solution. The solution is not to fine or jail people for being homeless though.

If you live deep enough in the woods, the bastards can't find you. Because this is just the beginning of the Conformity Laws that will regulate your lives like the Stepford Wives. America run like an HOA would be worse than North Korea!

It's almost like conservatives actually care about laws and the consequences of them, and thoroughly examine cases.

@@TheNoticer83 I would not say either conservative or liberal lawmakers usually examine the consequence of their policy especially when it comes to homelessness, that’s why I’m pleasantly surprised to see the the most progressive judge and two of the most conservative judges all take the same stance.

@@TheNoticer83that's wishful thinking

@@TheNoticer83 It's more like a few conservatives occasionally care. I wouldn't go streaking across the field with their banner because of some reasonable court banter just yet, bud.

I suspect even they can see the "let them sleep in cake" of it all. Imagine if all the homeless people had no choice but to organize against city government and cities had to try to jail millions of homeless. There's a reason letting them suffer on the streets was the easy choice.

Sadly, there is no money in "Common decency", so they don't feel obligated to help. So 'Christian' of the GOP.

@@charlesesseltine7054 These problems exist mostly (if not exclusively) in Dem run places, like LA and San Fran and yet you try blaming the GOP? Please name a GOP run place that has this problem. I'm very curious.

​@@jackfredricks6223 Of the 9 cities in the US with more than 1 million people, only Dallas has a Republican mayor, and that's in 9th place. Of the top 20 most populous cities in the US, only 3 Republicans serve as mayor at present: Dallas, Fort Worth, and Oklahoma City. Republicans gut social services which make the homeless crises worse. In the case of Rudy Giuliani's tenure as mayor of NYC, there's speculation that he let the NYPD literally kill homeless people for fun. Considering how terribly they treat homeless people under more recent regimes and how they silence whistleblowers via mental health warrants, it wouldn't shock me Most homeless people, including in LA and San Fran, are locals who were priced out of housing by out-of-state real estate speculators. It was during Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's tenure that a big push to have people move in from out of state, which significantly drove up real estate prices. It was during Ronald Reagan's governorship that California massively slashed investment in public education, which made it more difficult for future Californians to get better jobs California is also the 4th "stickiest" state, as in 70% of the people who are born there, stay there. The "Californians" you hear complaining about the place tend to be transplants who then left

⁠​⁠​⁠@@jackfredricks6223Most cities are run by Democrats because people in cities are more aware of their interdependence on one another and Democratic politics are built on this kind of framework. People in rural areas believe themselves to be more self sufficient and are more likely to support Republicans who talk about things like bootstrapping. There are homeless people in both kinds of communities, but there are more of them in cities because there are more people in cities. The solution to their problems are varied and complex. The lady that was mentioned had a dog that wasn’t welcome in the shelter. The dog shelters are often so full that they can’t even foster animals for the unhoused. Then there’s the lack of affordable housing and the low wages people are subject to. It’s like a maze in which one can get trapped and there’s no easy way out. I hope the court strikes down this terrible law.

I’ve sad this for years the Roman Empire had public baths and toilets 2 thousand years ago in their cities yet American cities are in capable of installing such necessities. Somethings really wrong with this picture.

Because the point of the policy was never to help the homeless people but to make it painful to stay in this city to force them to go somewhere else. That was the explicitly stated goal of the law in the when it was adopted (the homeless's lawyer showed the council records in the lower trial).

Expand low security prison capacity but allow the homeless to leave on a schedule much like a homeless shelter.

​@@imzjustplayinthat's not ideal. We can't just build more prisons and hire folks to monitor homeless people so we don't have to look at them because we refuse to build affordable housing. And we let foreign people and corporations buy up all the housing in America.

Doing this is literally a solution straight from the 17th century. Ridiculous.

@@imzjustplayin Incarceration for poverty?

@@schan9547 Incarceration implies a crime has been committed and a person is being penalized for it. I'm suggesting if the Prisons have excess capacity that it could be used for housing much like a homeless shelter.

AI will be taking so many jobs migrants, homeless, along with masses of poor will be in prison and interned / lots of entrapment ahead

The US has the 5th highest incarceration rate per capita in the world. The only countries that are higher are El Salvador, Cuba, Rwanda, Turkmenistan and American Samoa. Is the solution to keep locking everyone up? That also costs the taxpayers.

And whining about taxes that pay for it. Not an ounce of self-awareness.

​@furiousapplesack i just watched a rich guy from Denmark complain he cant buy a rolls royce bc his taxes are too high. Denmarks citizens are the happiest in the world and this guys biggest complaint was be couldn't buy a rolls royce 😂

and veterans!!

And people who work but rents far outstrip their paychecks. A full time job at $10 an hour is less than the rent for a studio in some places.

​@@macroi812 Spot on. In L.A., someone making median income for the area cannot afford any apartment of their own, not even a bachelor (smaller than studio) apartment. They have to live with someone else, and that can obviously go south for about a billion reasons (e.g. roommate doesn't pay rent, roommate causes problems that get you evicted, roommate goes crazy, etc.).

Addicts deserve shelter and safety too.

Literally no one is starving in the United States, food stamps you can get with 0 effort and almost anyone can get a disability claim

But where is the money in that? This way they can charge them a fine, and then charge the state for their stay in jail. It's like the speed traps that provide some towns with most of their budgets.

Another story (about college tuition) had a well-to-do commentator ask why they can't just ask their parents to pay for it. These people didn't have to struggle as hard as the rest of us, so they can't empathize with the rest of us.

Can't believe I'm saying this (will have to wait on the ruling) but I think that is what Kavanaugh is getting to here, especially with his last question. "What happens when they get out of jail"... even he all but says isn't the point of this law to punish people so they leave your jurisdiction?

💯 percent correct

I mean something needs to be done states like California lost several billion dollars on homeless people and they still occupy all public spaces from parks to sidewalks to underpasses to sides of the canals and rivers. Theor needs to be a tough love program in place if theirs a bed available and you don't take it you shouldn't be allowed to stay in an encampment with drugs crime and human waste we arent the 3rd world why would we allow that in our society

This is the same mentality that allowed squatters to steal people's homes for over a year at a time and they don't go to jail and they just move on to their next victim but in this case they just keep moving and destroying another location. They had a park they had to remove the top 6 inches of soil because of disease brought on by human fluids and that park wasn't allowed to be used for several years by tax payers who paid for it

​@@brodenmcdonaldthis country has 650,000 homeless people and 15 MILLION empty homes. The solution is simple, but we can't do it because this country believes homeless people should die of exposure instead of receive something they haven't "EARNED".

Exactly but that would mean that the local and state government would actually have to spend money on making people's lives better

It is the squatters responsibility to make a claim to property And I agree, if squatters want to settle abandoned facilities, go ahead, but why do the taxpayers have to front that

That is exactly what will happen if this law passes whether they like it or not. And tons more people hiding out in people's backyards etc.

@@user-qx3uu7sq2r I hear ya...and I agree... we seem to be wasting hundreds of millions here in Southern California...our public officials need to also be held more accountable for how this terrible problem is being addressed...

NIMBYism at its finest for sure.

blackstone and vanguard need to be forced to divest all of their real estate holdings other than commercial.

Tell me you live inside a major city loop without telling me.

​@AccountInactive that's where the jobs are. Should we live in the desolate country an hour from any decent job? What would that solve?

​@AccountInactive that's where the jobs are. Should we live in the desolate country an hour from any decent job? What would that solve?

She clearly doesn’t understand the homeless situation. Anywhere in the US. Plenty of homeless/unhoused people WORK. Might even work full time or multiple jobs. But housing is so exorbitantly expensive, that is disgustingly easy to lose your home, and/or not be able to get a new one. If you were in jail for 30 days, you’d lose your job. Plus you’d then have a record-and might not be able to work in your field again!! Might even find more dangerous places to stay so you wouldn’t get caught (maybe even with your kids). This is so nonsensical.

Chow Mein ? 😅 Nom Nom Nom

Give the pet away. She cannot take care of herself, she cannot take care of a pet.

You are correct. Sad how some people have zero empathy for people especially people down on their luck, they can't possibly understand how a pet is maybe the only love they know or feel in this life. The pet is their family.

Sometimes it’s your only friend. Something to live for

@@Bonzi_Buddy, simple right? No, it's not. And many of them likely feed their pets before they feed themselves.

This law is already doing that, and I wouldn't be surprised if the attorneys have tried the "This law affect everyone equally." line as a defense of this law. Sure it affects everyone the same, but it's only the homeless that are sleeping on the street and subject to arrest. And that is why it is not equal in its enforcement.

@@charlesesseltine7054 agreed…I’m always concerned about court decisions that local government officials and their lawyers with their broad interpretation of rulings. The “time, place and manner” restrictions local governments have imposed on freedom of speech and the rights of citizens to express their grievances comes to mind. And don’t get me started on how police departments have abused their powers under the cover of Terry vs. Ohio.

Yes. I live in a small town, and they have "hours" for a park that is basically in the woods. They enforce the hours rigorously - if you park in any parking lot around the park, the cops are on you in seconds. There is no reason for the park to close at 10 p.m., but they just restrict our freedoms as much as they can possibly get away with for no good reason whatsoever other than that they suck.

@@EyesOnStarkeCounty Terry Stops should not be allowed, but what can be worse is when the poor person's only crime is to have a car in a town where most of the budget comes from traffic stops. Numerous cases have been reported where the person loses the vehicle because the cop 'suspected' it of being involved in 'something'. They can't afford the tickets, or the court costs, so they are out of a vehicle.

Sometimes people have to do what they don't want to do

@@meggrotte4760 Bingo!!!

That’s true Megg.

“And if they Do; they Deserve to be arrested for being Homeless, and put right back in jail.” Lordy.

Lack of low income housing, They still fail to recognize we have extreme poverty and social problems from poverty in the U,S,

She talked like they would not have accepted alternatives before, and as if having a warm bed and free food for 30 days would encourage them more...shes so out of touch

I have heard that they do not feel safe in shelters.

Society has rules. I understand some people not wanting to follow them, but that doesn't mean it needs to be tolerated.

The shelter being mentioned in this case is on a whole other level. If you stay there you have to go to mass like 2 times a day and the rules are very strict. I’m sure only the super religious would enjoy staying there, so I can’t blame the houseless for not wanting to stay there

I could never hack a homeless shelter - I'd be worried about getting robbed, and I often have trouble sleeping anyway. I view homeless shelters as low-security prisons, and totally understand why homeless people would prefer the street to the asylum.

@@santiagoaparicio619I think I heard somewhere that they also require the people living there to work for their approved employers without pay and they can only live there for a month. I can understand why the homeless wouldn’t want to live there if that’s the only option available besides sleeping in the park

We already know why

Of course it is unconstitutional. But people only interested in removing the "eye sore" of the homeless could not care less.

Morality is not the problem! The problem is, there are not enough beds!

I'm homeless. Been for almost a year now. The only shelter that had a bed for me was the salvation army. I ended up homeless after a falling out with my fundamentalist Christian family. I just escaped religious trauma and abuse. No way in hell am I doing that shit again. I've got 2 part time jobs, good friends and a minivan. I'm no where near figuring out what's next. But at least I'm not putting up with sanctimonious turds

@@JonahPleatherbooth if you have a van, you're not that homeless. Salvation Army weren't actually that religious in my experience.

Good for you. Keep helping those you can. The rest of us cannot be expected to sit idly by and be berated and called names for simply not having a self-destructive view when it comes to the community. Homelessness is a condition of deeper problems, mostly mental health. Bring back the asylums and clinics. Bring back the family support structure (end no-fault divorce and welfare for single mothers).

@@user-qx3uu7sq2r First world problems. Be grateful for what you have instead of whining about what you don't.

Not sending $160 billion to Ukraine could solve US homeless problem ten times.

​@@ThrockmortonJGildersleeve Your exactly right!

@@ThrockmortonJGildersleeve We can do both, help Ukraine fight the Russian invasion and "solve" homelessness. How many billions went to corporations during the great TPP handout?

It only makes it worse

​@@ThrockmortonJGildersleeveno it wouldn't. We shouldn't send a dime to Ukraine, don't get me wrong. Why would you think that 16 billion solve homelessness? That wouldn't solve California homelessness for even 1 year. No amount of money would solve homelessness. Not an amount that we have at least. What you build a bunch of apartments? It's 1 million per apartment that they just built in Cali. Not per complex, per unit. Then what you pay the heat electric gas phone internet food and all other bills for all eternity for them? It doesn't work.

Many of the settlers of the United States agreed to atleast 3 years of indentured servitude to pay for the cost of transport to this country Why are the homeless above this

@@datswassup9902 gee I don't know, because somehow we became less of a bunch of unemphatic monsters, and treated humans as people by banning slavery?

@@datswassup9902 its insane that your actual take is "we should act like its the 1700s and slavery is still legal"

@@Rockzilla1122 instead of trespassing and being allowed to live on infinite taxpayer resources a contract signed for a few years to work for a company in order to get a 40k crackshack full ownership seems ok we are living in a time of anomaly, the people with the worst behavior are allowed to leech off the rest of us for an infinite period of time the society rewards lazyness, sloth, name any or all of the 7 deadly sins and it's given a pass, the society is soft and full of people who don't understand what life actually is without society propping these people up they would be dead, because they have no skills, no desire to succeed or to live, so why is it our responsibility to feed them and cloth them

@@Rockzilla1122 also in the 1700s people worked for everything they had, there was no infinite taxpayer bailout that you could utilize and not have to do anything for your entire life

the exact phrase your ex-president used to get famous lol...too funny.

Thanks to privatized prisons, someone gets paid if they imprison a homeless person. Which also makes me wonder who funds that attorney . . .

Is it cheaper to have criminals infinitely breeding needing infinitely more housing It isn't working in Chicago or New york

Most are likely homeless because they failed to make choices such as giving up pets, alcohol, tobacco, bad relationships, etc.

YES

If you are not responsible for your own welfare, please don't add more burden.

@@bobgaines8964 and then be jailed if they refuse to be separated from their pets?

Do you think other people get to take pets into treatment? Nope.

The 160 billion we sent to Ukraine could do a lot of good for our own country and citizens 🙏

​@@jeepernj99the only way to fix this problem is to stop allowing the two party system to continue.

Look at what is happening,Beds are not housing and if the person forced to leave their tent to enter shelters they will have nothing left in the morning to return to.They are being herded like animals.

At times the Shelters are filled. That means rent is too high. The ones that want to be on drugs, need rehab, and the ones being forced on the streets need People arrested and to be back where they live. Thanks for sharing.

For some of us that’s not the case. We simply have no choice. I’m not homeless because I want to be. I’m homeless because of depression after my dad died. I’m staying in my van at a safe sleep site in Oregon. I don’t do drugs and I’m working now. With any luck by the time I’m 50 next year I will have a dependable vehicle and enough money to buy a small plot of land that I can grow a garden on and build a small house and hunt to supplement my food. I don’t want water or electric bills or the government breathing down my neck. I don’t like their rules. And I didn’t grow up around a lot of people. The only thing I want is a little peace and a place I can call home. I don’t have a retirement saved up. But a little peace and quiet would be enough before I die. Most people don’t have a clue what it’s like to be homeless. But they could look past the grime and realize that all homeless people aren’t bad people. We are a part of we the people and a lot of us are veterans. So you might think about that and think twice about how you treat your fellow man.

@@user-sf7lv4jm4c , I have little story myself, and this is why NO one is above being homeless, not even the attorney asking for this insane solution to such huge problem. I was a nurse, I owned a house, on my way to work one morning a big truck rear-ended my SUV, to make a long battle short, I had to get surgery on C4-C5 my whole spinal cord got compromised, mind you I am a petite person, the injuries were very painful, I couldn't work, guess what happens when you can't work. If you are not wealthy, you loose everything you own, or better said making payments on. I'm not a drug addict, I don't use alcohol.I don't hurt others, my record is clean, I Consider myself a little tinker always helping others. But I did sleep in my car for 3 months when my time came. I learned in this 3 months to have compassion for the least fortunate. I learned not to judge them so hardshly. Why on Earth would anyone want to dirty my record for not committing a crime? That within itself will strip me from my already compromised dignity, and it will not make me a better person. Humans, I don't understand most. I am fortunate I am not homeless anymore. In truth I can't afford rent on my own, I was compensated for my injuries and mental anguished. Unfortunately money seems to have wings ... hahaha, thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my story with you. Hahaha Life Goes On, until it doesn't anymore. Hahaha 🌹❤️ Do no harm!

Couldn't they get a job Animals are more productive, labor wise

Well, if they didn't alienate their friends and family, maybe those people would take them in?

@@furtim1 That's an absurd and heartless assumption.

They need to turn low security prisons into homeless shelters. Expand prison capacity which should be pretty easy to do and allow a portion of the prison to be used as a homeless shelter. Obviously the homeless could come and go as they please on a similar schedule to a typical homeless shelter.

@imzjustplayin you think? Since when is prisons built near any transportation or any other business or services homeless people need?

@@ruthanneperry1623 where and how do prisoners leave the prison? You don't think there is a bus stop at a prison? Why does a homeless shelter need to be located in prime real estate in down town?

No tax should exceed 1 percent The founders of our country understood this

The voice recording is more than sufficient. No need to watch someone blink.

Why though? I'd prefer cameras but there's no legitimate legal argument for it. Audio of proceedings provide us with all necessary information, wanting video is just preference.

It's 20 fucking 24 we were supposed to have flying cars and every person in that room has a 2000 megapixel iPhone made by capitalism slaves in asia.

Of course they do, most people aren't homeless, you could study this population and find out why

And when those lots (owned by individuals and companies) are purchased by cities and allowed to fill up with shanty towns...then what? When there is a fire on the lot and people die, who is going to be sued? The drug addict that didn't blow out his candle when he was melting his crack or the City that owned the lot and opened it up to be a slum without rules (which homeless people generall cannot work within)?

The costs of their paltry complexes are ridiculous - graft at every turn.

True!

right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get back to work and get my 7k a month from the Biden Regime coming chap, Don't forget to pay your taxes this year !!!! lol ez cash.

The issue is illegals ACCEPT the help. The case here is people who REFUSE help. ie, the lead plaintiff in this case refused a bed because she would have been separated from her dog and then received PUNISHMENT for REFUSING government assistance.

anything is possible when you lie

The difference is that the way we treat people claiming asylum is governed by international law and the way we treat American homeless is a reflection of American values.

​@@reasonablegentlemanthe gov changed the laws so they could ship them in under the claim of asylum. .. stay in Mexico was removed . And people from countries away are allowed to claim asylum even though they have to go country to country on claims of asylum to get here legally. . There's a lot of b.s. the Biden administration is doing to get all these illegal into the country.

@@reasonablegentleman International law!? Do China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Mexico, or Russia put illegals in luxury hotels and hand them cash as they await their court dates? What a twisted worldview.

True, I think NY let ILLEGALS stay in schools!! Here in our state they set up houseing for homeless while our schools are haveing to lay off staff, I can't beleave what is going on in AMERICA

So why are Americans refusing to provide adequate funding to provide housing? or free healthcare? both of which would help solve this. It's not rocket science, the Finns solved this already.

who is??