Kemi Badenoch doubles down on biological sex equality law plans | LBC

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As the Tories plan to redefine the legal definition of the word 'sex', Nick Ferrari speaks to Women and Equalities Minister, Kemi Badenoch .
Badenoch stresses that the world should refer to 'biological sex' and not 'redefined meanings of the word.'
She also emphasises the need to stop some 'exploiting' the system in order to protect the 'most vulnerable'.
'Changing your clothes doesn’t change who you are,' Badenoch says.
'We want people who are trans to be protected as well.
'People who want to change their clothes should not be able to exploit the scenarios we have prepared and the laws we’ve put in place to protect those people who are genuine transgender people or suffer from gender dysphoria.'
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@thehealinggame 3 месяца назад

Nick hasn't covered himself in glory as a supposed critical interviewer here

@joepoppleton7614 3 месяца назад

Hatred disguised as “politics”.

@a.scoob2 3 месяца назад

You cojpnsider acknowledging reality to be hatred. That’s your problem.

@23bit76 3 месяца назад

@a.scoob2 but it's attractive policy for those filled with hate. You could be fighting for our health system with the rest if us ..but instead...

@MijinLaw 3 месяца назад

The thing is, there's nothing much in the policy that's different from the status quo. She wants to buy into all the binary rhetoric, but when it comes down to it, reality is complicated so you just essentially says it's case by case.

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

@@23bit76 you think fighting for women's rights is a waste of time? If women don't reassert their rights, what voice will they have to fight for anything?

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

@Notavictim you're unaware that women's rights are being eroded? How can you comment when you're uninformed? In the UK, women are being hounded out of jobs for expressing perfectly ordinary views, or have you missed the various tribunals? Many women won't have the means to take legal action. People are getting away with bullying women - the UK is doing slightly better than some other countries but only because some brave individuals have stood up. However, many rights, such as access to female only spaces, have been eroded. It's depressing that it's necessary, but women are once again having to fight for their rights.

@easycoding8255 3 месяца назад

I DONT CAAAAAAAARE. Fix the NHS, Police, Economy, Schools etc etc. I have to live in the real world, not this Daily Mail comment section.

@brendadarling7743 3 месяца назад

I DOOOOO

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

@@brendadarling7743 me toooooo 😂

@easycoding8255 3 месяца назад

@@brendadarling7743 then you’re a saddoooooooo

@JayAndNightASMR 3 месяца назад

Was in the toilet when Kemi burst down the door, screaming to see my birth certificate.

@dextercool 3 месяца назад

Pure distraction from most people's priorities!

@sabine1470 3 месяца назад

Safeguarding women is bnot a distraction.

@davejlboy4505 3 месяца назад

No talent .No patience. No idea ....oh and in just over a month No job .

@SweggyBread 3 месяца назад

"We want to add clarity" "Ok how about this specific scenario" "Well it depends..." Now that's some clarity!

@MaxMisterC 3 месяца назад

Kemi Badenoch, will you be inspecting the contents of transitioners' trousers?

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

Or looking under their skirt 'ere isn't there a law against upskirting

@El_Paracleto 3 месяца назад

'Changing Clothes Doesn't Change Who You Are'....Most folk have always known the CONS are WOLVES in SHEEP'S CLOTHING, anyhow, but ta for the REMINDER...

@NellJerram 3 месяца назад

Very poor interview. Seems the questions were chosen to be the least challenging possible.

@heyhonpuds 3 месяца назад

Nick loves the Tories and will be in tears come July 5th 🎉

@mjl2904 3 месяца назад

Provide confusion, remove clarity and distract from poor economy… got it 👊🏾

@thehealinggame 3 месяца назад

More irrelevant hot air from the Tories

@brendadarling7743 3 месяца назад

Womens rights just hot air?

@ChrisPage68 3 месяца назад

Odious person being interviewed by a slightly less odious person.

@jameshart3879 3 месяца назад

So why do you have haircuts? Why wear clothes at all. The external is ALWAYS an expression of our internal. And how is hating trans people solving: Mortgage rates Growing deficit Corruption Cronyism Cost of living It's fear politics

@danmayberry1185 3 месяца назад

You can't spell Badenoch without Enoch.

@scp_sixtynine4203 3 месяца назад

Bad enoch

@DilbertWhitehead 3 месяца назад

Wow that's really cutting and edgy. You're so cool 😎

@user-sd3ik9rt6d 3 месяца назад

@@DilbertWhitehead triggered?

@Gary-le7dz 3 месяца назад

@@DilbertWhitehead Don’t take up comedy you ll starve

@Paul-eb4jp 3 месяца назад

Or bad.

@megansinor6575 3 месяца назад

So basically Nick had his mate on for a chat

@andym87 3 месяца назад

Tories' Campaign Culture War in full swing, I see

@brendadarling7743 3 месяца назад

Womens rights are not a culture war

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

It' all they have.

@simonkapadia7582 3 месяца назад

The continued Conservative campaign to ignore policy, the near collapse of public services, the state of the economy, and virtually everything that matters to voters in favour of trying to appeal to people who get very cross on the internet about something that, in most cases, has never in any meaningful sense intersected with their own lives.

@charlcharlie7447 3 месяца назад

We want to end confusion by adding more confusion. Thanks Kemi

@thesmity31 3 месяца назад

Isla Bryson was temporarily housed in a women's prison while a risk assessment was done regarding her time in prison. While she was there she was housed separately from the general population. The risk assessment found that she would be more suited to a men's prison given the recency of her transition, and she was then moved to a men's prison. This all happened over a year ago, and this is all standard procedure so any governor who is worried is just ignorant of the current legislation. The idea that she's just been dumped in a women's prison without any thought or consideration is complete misinformation, although unfortunately exactly what we've come to expect from Kemi Badenoch.

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

Women in the UK have been rpd in prison by men who have claimed to be female. It needs to be clarified that the intention is biological. How many more women have to be sacrificed for this ideology?

@RayGoodspeed 3 месяца назад

Exactly - deliberately misleading scare story

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

Well done for bringing fact to counter the Tory misinformation campaign

@NicolaKehoe 3 месяца назад

Someone should tell Fogarty too

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

But Adam is and always will be a bloke. He should never have been housed in a women's prison. It's like people don't understand predators.

@MijinLaw 3 месяца назад

On the toilet story, assuming it's true, i obviously feel terrible for the woman but stick figures on doors aren't going to stop rapists. The thing that makes toilets safe generally is that they a kind of public space; any number of people could walk in at any time. It's pretty common nowadays for toilets to be unisex, it makes no difference because why would it?

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

Even when toilets aren't unisex only a toilet attendant can stop the wrong sort walking in.

@fabbie3862 3 месяца назад

That’s not the point at all, and tbh that is an awful take. You’re basically saying signs on doors won’t stop rapists so just allow any men into women’s toilets because it won’t make a difference. No. If you allow (in law) males to enter women’s spaces, they cannot be challenged, and the risk factor increases. Dignity and privacy come into this as well as safety.

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

You seem to be unaware of the power of social norms. Also, do you know why separate facilities were created in the first place?

@MijinLaw 3 месяца назад

@wolfhugs @fabbie you both assert I'm wrong but do not address either of the points I made regarding toilets being a kind of public space and now the prevalence of unisex toilets.

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

@@MijinLaw do you know why separate facilities were created in the first place?

@joeewell4846 3 месяца назад

The so-called "CASS REPORT" would never be accepted as a scientific study within the scientific community as it fails most if not all of the scientific criteria.

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

As opposed the "Gender theory" which ticks all the boxes?

@brendadarling7743 3 месяца назад

⁠yes....what is gender?

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

@@callummcintyre713 Gender Theory is in fact a part of Feminist Theory, for it is the Feminist movement that created Gender Theory. The popular undoing of which will detrimentally affect women's rights, as intended.

@user-nf4zh2vj5e 3 месяца назад

more tory lies and bs.

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

"Gender theory" is bs.

@wickerbathtub3183 3 месяца назад

Hearing her talk about this issue as though she knows anything about it is staggering and hilarious

@benwilliamstv 3 месяца назад

Youre so close to getting it Kemi. Yes, clothes cant change who you are inside.

@rainchains5306 3 месяца назад

What a headbanger.

@themikaylashow1987 3 месяца назад

She doesn't mention the long waits to access hormones OR surgery. It takes YEARS just for your first appointment

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

Same as everything with the NHS. I've a friend with anemia due to heavy bleeding due to fibroids. She misses work frequently as she sleeps 16+ hours daily due to low iron. Despite how very ill she is, it took over a year to get an appointment with a specialist and it's a 2 year wait list for the only solution available, a hysterectomy. She cannot afford to go private. Any NHS service is stretched and every year there are thousands of people pass before the life saving treatment they need is available.

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

Five years in my neck of the woods. Then it take two to three years to actually get the hormones and surgery if you want it seven to eight years from making the decision.

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

@@Coelacanth1 what happens if those hormones cause other issues like tumour growth?

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

@@wolfhugs2221 If caught early enough it may be treated if it is warranted as not all tumours are malignant some are benign. If not, well life kills us anyway

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

@@Coelacanth1 caution before taking an action that could cause fatal harm seems sensible.

@themidnightwoodsman1804 3 месяца назад

Is this really a priority policy? There are real issues that need sorting.

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

It's a distraction from both history and no solutions forthcoming.

@jamesharrison3045 3 месяца назад

Come on. This is fear mongering. Be better.

@brendadarling7743 3 месяца назад

No its not....language and it's meanings are important. There's so many areas of life where so called trans rights are treading all over women's rights. Do better

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

@@brendadarling7743 '' There's so many areas of life where so called trans rights are treading all over women's rights.'' - such as and please provide your evidence.

@brendadarling7743 3 месяца назад

@@Coelacanth1 don't be a 🤡

@Steve-wb60 3 месяца назад

Surely this is not a party political issue. She’s just trying to prop up their core vote, it’s so cynical.

@keith2366 3 месяца назад

She wants to bring clarity? That is one of the funniest things she has ever said.

@AntonSmyth-od6rc 3 месяца назад

Please Government tell me who I am 😂

@chiraagshah269 3 месяца назад

What a moronic conversation 🙄

@RayGoodspeed 3 месяца назад

But most trans women are in men's prisons anyway, and even the Scottish case she quotes was only in solitary confinement in as women's prison temporarily and then transferred to a male prison.

@bobsmith5441 3 месяца назад

Most? Why not all?

@SimonSmith-yd6tt 3 месяца назад

@@bobsmith5441 as in the case highlighted some times mens prisons are full also Police cells are mixed by design and sometimes due to capacity issues have mixed detainees

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

Well done for bringing some fact to this assertion.

@Gary-le7dz 3 месяца назад

Shame badnack does not put as much effort into the nhs or child poverty her govt has sent into chaos last 14 years …..

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

You know it's not her job, don't you?

@Gary-le7dz 3 месяца назад

@@callummcintyre713 yes also know itd been the Tory’s job last 14 years running the economy nhs and child poverty , how’s that working out for you!!!!

@Gary-le7dz 3 месяца назад

Yes also know it’s the Tory’s job to run the nhs economy and child poverty these last 14 years , how’s that working out

@Faiythe 3 месяца назад

Of course she's putting effort into the NHS and children. She's in a government that is banning trans people from hospital wards and just created regulations that are causing the NHS to have to provide urgent mental health support to trans children. Surely that's more important than year's long waiting lists and millions in poverty, right?

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

@@callummcintyre713 Her job is to promote human inequality

@bannon1000 3 месяца назад

She is clueless

@marieadams3720 3 месяца назад

Oh yes this seems like an earth-shatteringly important issue for the election which will change all our lives!

@markhill6420 3 месяца назад

Utter B.S.

@birdinthebush 3 месяца назад

What a caring project for a human been!

@soton5teve 3 месяца назад

so,she's admitting all clothes are unisex? Then

@bobsmith5441 3 месяца назад

What! The exact opposite

@soton5teve 16 дней назад

@@bobsmith5441 so all clothes are unisex

@alundavies1016 3 месяца назад

Changing clothes absolutely changes who you are! Ask any police officer, soldier, clown, astronaut… She really is not the brightest.

@thespiangamer6636 3 месяца назад

I'd argue that uniforms indicate what you do, not who you are as a person.

@alundavies1016 3 месяца назад

@@thespiangamer6636 in which case does it matter what clothes people choose to wear at all?

@peterfry9473 3 месяца назад

So it is to protect people. But not if ypou are Trans!!

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

It's not upto the majority to cowtail to the minority.

@solentforest 3 месяца назад

@@callummcintyre713 what has a cowtail got to do with anything 🤣

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

@@solentforest it's a regional play on "Kow tow".

@solentforest 3 месяца назад

@@callummcintyre713 regional where? Sounds more like someone who didn't understand it's said kowtow 🤣

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

@@solentforest rural parts of Yorkshire and, Lincolnshire.

@soton5teve 3 месяца назад

Sunak to wear a dress next tiktok then, yes?

@susanpettitt713 3 месяца назад

More urgent matters love NHS nursing crisis please just go.....

@brendadarling7743 3 месяца назад

Womens rights are important. And we can be concerned about more than a couple of things at a time....we're women after all 👍

@sh8nn0n92 2 месяца назад

Cheek swab. Material reality in law❤️🗣️

@slinkiegirl2001 2 месяца назад

I can not stand mammie kemi but she is right we needs to protect safe spaces for us women.and. Away from predatory men who say they women that is vital

@Human_Herbivore 3 месяца назад

We've had Brexit, where does she think the people who are needed in the NHS and more surgeries are going to appear from?

@hanszieten6288 3 месяца назад

Dire.

@ChrisPage68 3 месяца назад

Ear. 😉

@michaeltucek2368 3 месяца назад

Should it not just be: Equality minister?

@ECoventry 3 месяца назад

All equalities are equal but some are more equal than others

@ChrisPage68 3 месяца назад

She doesn't believe in equality.

@pennycatterick5148 3 месяца назад

Wow Nick,...never saw your dressing in a dress for an afternoon on the town! Poor Kemi,....delusional!! PennyXxx

@supercadcc 3 месяца назад

Just do away with urinals

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

Ridiculous that this is having to be done. That a world was created where people's feelings and imagination was prioritized over common sense.

@TW-xs1qf 3 месяца назад

It doesn't need to be done, it's a ludicrous, waste of time, nothing policy

@solentforest 3 месяца назад

*That a world was created where people lacked the common sense to see through a non-existent problem dressed up as a defining issue by a desperate party.

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

@@solentforest non existent for you, as you either agree with all the nonsense or, bury your head in the sand.

@callummcintyre713 3 месяца назад

@@solentforest your burying your head in the sand. Though you're right about the party being desperate, this should have passed years ago when the nutters first started with the bs.

@solentforest 3 месяца назад

@@callummcintyre713 show these figures that prove it's an issue relative to say, the economy, the NHS, rogue water and rail companies, heck, even smart motorways. Yet somehow _I_ have my head in the sand? 😂

@Albanach-je1nk 3 месяца назад

What countries have privatized there heath services ???

@vvwalker7261 3 месяца назад

One of the only credible, commonsense politicians in the UK

@BrapMan 3 месяца назад

Kemi Badenoch is such a very level headed and inteligent woman, and that is an honest observation of an individual who happens to be Conservitive. I personally am a Scouser, so obviously am not a fan of her party in any way whatsoever. I wish there were more politicians like her though, even though I think her support of Brexit, despite the obvious massive issues it has caused, is misplaced.

@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419 3 месяца назад

That’s the smartest bit of satire I’ve read all day. Very amusing.

@DilbertWhitehead 3 месяца назад

We're at that stage now where people would rather believe fantasy over reality, as long as that means siding against the Tories. Tribal

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

Exactly

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

No people are just fed up with it, fed up that it is taking so government time that could be spent on fixing the cost of living crisis or improving NHS services. People can see potholes in the roads but they would be hard pressed to see a trans person in the street

@DilbertWhitehead 3 месяца назад

@@Coelacanth1 you best get used to that then as this incoming government is an identity politics master. We've seen nothing yet

@Shystar79 3 месяца назад

I am confused 😢

@KittenisKitten 3 месяца назад

we just want to change the law back, but this is new policy not step back for Trans equality

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

Common sense. Of course the intention was biological, but the creation of a legal fiction has caused chaos.

@johnrussell3961 3 месяца назад

Those complaining the most what no legal tragenders in women’s spaces. This clarification doesn’t end that. So those who are bothered won’t be happy, and the rest of us don’t see it as an issue. Seems like a typical Tory plan.

@SpenceJS87 3 месяца назад

'Common sense'

@Coelacanth1 3 месяца назад

The problem with bringing the word ' biological ' into the equation is that you open the door to science. Science of which has discovered what between the legs doesn't always describe.

@wolfhugs2221 3 месяца назад

@@Coelacanth1 biological, physical. We all know that men and women are not the same - the relaxing of safeguarding has already had the inevitable result and loopholes have been used - women and children have been harmed. Solutions are needed, but allowing any man access to female spaces on his say so isn't working and the law needs clarifying to protect females.