Kemper Liquid Profiling 101 

I feel like Kemper has easily kept up or even paved the path for these other companies but that’s just personally taste. 😂 However, it’s insane how much they have updated an 11 year old piece of gear. Plus, I can’t think of ANY company that found a way to producer their product in more cost effective way AND THEN adjusted their prices to reflect it. They easily could have kept that information to themselves and upped their profit margins but they passed that savings on to their customers. That is just so respectable for a company. Whenever they decide that the kemper needs a sequel. I will for sure be getting one because I know it’s going to be a rock solid piece of gear that will be relevant and generously supported for at least a decade.

I guess that's a "no." haha

ditto!

Browsing through your profiles you should be able to find the one you need with its original EQ values, as it was at the time you bought the profile; then just put the same settings on your saved profile

There‘s a free Rig Pack with LP SLO100 included

This is the big question...liquid profiling can't be "that" accurate,(or can it??) but if it could cut down a 60 profile pack to a bakers dozen or so, that's intriguing.

@@Respecttheriff it’s funny but the reason I’ve always loved the kemper is because it’s ‘real’ capture of the tone. I’ve never touched a knob on the thing. I mean the gain knob is a joke when turning it makes a 60s fender into a line6 ‘death metal machine’. So if I don’t like the profile, it’s on to the next of 60 in the pack. There’s always enough amazing ones. It will be interesting to see if my mind can accept this ‘hybridization’ approach.

That is exactly what liquid profiling will do. Cut down the need for multiple profiles at different gain stages. It will truly be like having the amp with the ability to adjust the EQ for your sound. Will be very beneficial for those that play with DI / merged profiles through a real guitar cabinet. I've tried it and I'm thrilled because that was my complaint about Kemper.

Some real truth to this!

Well, maybe because fractal has been modelling the tone stacks true to the type of amp that they modelled since day one. It has been the main reason i didn't go for a Kemper for a long time. I now like both, and love the form factor of the player. It also likes my analogue pedals, which is a big plus

I sold mine back in 2018, bought an axefx, then traded it a year later for another kemper. It’s been running great since. The only issues I’ve seen with used kempers is the led ring around the controls going out, but none of mine have.

@@noflooddamage154 cool, good to know. I may just get a new one. Was considering a 20 watt tube amp (Friedman) but am worried it will just be too loud for what I do and I’ll have to get an ox box and all that and it will cost a million dollars. I play at home at low volume so I want good tones at bedroom volumes. Seems like the kemper is a good way to go. Was gonna get Yamaha HSs studio monitors. I currently just use a Yamaha THR10 that sound good at low volume but wanted to step things up a bit.

Gain and EQ

I wondered this as well. Without the settings the existing profiles are kind of useless with liquid profiling

No idea

@@ToneJunkieTVhow can we check out the profiles you already have liquidized? If even one.

@@bobbyodell8676 I’ll make some more, the one from this video is a free download. Check it out. I’m working on some stuff.

@@ToneJunkieTV Yes!! Thank you.

@@ToneJunkieTV given your expertise on the profiler and releases... are you confident in the stability of this public beta release?

Maybe I’m not sure. You may need to shoot an email to kemper and see if you need to update to another version and then this one.

If you update through RigManager it will tell you if you can update directly or if you need to do a “stepped” update. Just do what it tells you to do. Just update RigManager first.

I reached a point I can no longer do certain updates unless I have current version of Windows. Kind of sucks as I have no desire to upgrade windows. I would literally have to purchase new Windows or a new computer just to have the basic Kemper software editor. My studio setup runs perfectly on windows 8 for many years. I can’t risk messing it up just for Kemper editor

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i found it lol

If you can get a current Kemper at a reasonable price, I don't see any reason waiting on a 2nd gen that may never come out. It doesn't seem like Christoph is holding back any updates on it. Sure it's missing a touch screen and some of the io in other devices but it's not like this model will sound worse all of a sudden once a 2nd gen is released. Just my 2 cents.

It’s less of a question if Kemper 2 will be a thing and more so if you want the Kemper or a different modeler. For people that like to tone tweak the QC or Line 6 HX stuff seems to be a good way to go. For those that like to set it and forget it (like how I enjoy it) just finding a handful of really great Kemper profiles do the job just fine. And for small budgets the Tonex is accessible option. Also take in account the genre(s) of music you play. As someone who does higher gain brutal stuff on the side, the Kemper seems to have a hard time capturing the right nuances of those gain structures and can make them sound…for the lack of better term…Kempery?? Not terrible, but it takes more time and effort finding profiles that get it right.

IMO, If a Kemper 2 is ever released it will integrate with all the current Kempers.. In other words, current Kemper owners will want to keep their old Kemper and use it with the Kemper 2. A Kemper 2 wont be a smaller version of the Stage, like a L6 Stomp or QC, it will be a new invention by Christophe Kemper, because he's an inventor.

@@guitartoneSA hmm interesting thoughts. I have watched quite a few of the interviews Christoph has done over the years and you can tell he is not the typical corporate type. Hence it being 10 years and no new one for one thing haha

It is like with computers - you buy when you need it, the best value for the money you have.

I never knew they were… seemed like cliff just talking in the forum without even looking into what kemper had made.

Fractal falling behind. I guess that’s what they get for outsourcing their builds instead of keeping them domestic like Kemper does in Germany. There’s something to that. I’m convinced the quality German craftsmanship plays a role in the amazing sound produced by the unit.

@@bobbyodell8676 well I don't know about guitar equipment but as a master mechanic of 20 years, I can tell you German cars are garbage, I tell everyone I know to never buy them.

@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender Germans do everything right!

@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fenderthank god there aren’t any moving parts in these. That said, I think a whole country as a manufacturer of all kind of stuff isn’t a good way to establish quality. Good stuff and crap from any country that exports IMO

This is out as a beta firmware for everyone who has a kemper.

@@ToneJunkieTV Surprised we have not seen any other PEOPLES videos on it. But HW is mainly the fellow with the RU-vid channel for Kemper, Thanks for a reply.

Improve the Reverbs and Delays? Are you joking?

@@guitartoneSA I haven't updated my unit in over a year at least, so cut me some slack !

40, not 14. It's an Amp Stack, why call it a CONTROL MODEL?

@@guitartoneSA Because it's modeling the controls on the amp. PERIOD.

@@RogerBrenon And the Gain and EQ controls of an amp are called an Amp Stack! 👍

@@guitartoneSA LOL Dude, An Amp on top of a cabinet is an "Amp Stack". That's why we call em half and full stack. I think it's common sense to call just the knobs being modeled (Because that's what it is) defined as a Control Model. Knobs that are being modeled are controls. Maybe they should call it KNOB MODEL or something. It's not an "AMP MODEL" - Kemper does profiling not modeling of amps.

Make sure you select “beta releases” in the preferences of rig manager. Liquid profiles are in public beta release, so unless you have beta releases turned on it won’t update to the liquid stuff.

thanks. will this get rid of the 'avoid saving to amp' part of the sg>?@@ToneJunkieTV

i dropped the liquid set into rm. it said partially failed-34 profiles are duplicates?!@@ToneJunkieTV

Key words "for me" . I know I personally prefer being able to dial my tones in using the knobs by ear like on a real amp and tech like this will potentially allow me to be able to get alot closer to how an actual amp reacts to knob changes

Nah. The eq settings will behave like the original amp, there’d absolutely none of a cent beyond that.

@@luizfloripa EQ and gain will behave like in the original amp if Liquid Profiling is correctly configured.

What cab do you use?

If kemper what els would be a good choice that is smaller. I don’t won’t to break my back 😅

I’m would like to get on of this but there is such a learning curve that puts me off. I think most of the modelers sound soo boxy