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@JazzNazz1 So you believe it's more likely that someone burned Teresa in *multiple* different places around the quarries and then moved some of the bones into the fire pit, instead of the more logical theory that Teresa was burned in the pit and then scattered in various places throughout the quarries? All the while being able to avoid any signs of moving those bones, as no "breakage" could be determined from the cremains examined in the fire pit.
@@RavensFanJ no I think I was pretty clear and sadly the state didn’t want to photograph what was discovered on or off the property hence the reason they want to avoid the topic
@@JazzNazz1 I'm sure they regret not better documenting the cremains, but that doesn't change any of the expert analysis done on the bones nor does it change the likelihood that it's just more plausible they were burned in that fire pit and then moved *elsewhere* . That's the Occam's Razor answer.
@@RavensFanJ they should regret how they handled and treated her remains, so disrespectful to her family and ultimately her memory. I would be horrified if my family member was found in all different locations and none of it was properly documented. That matters!
The problem with the Plea offer is that there was no evidence to back up Brendan's story, so going to trial would have made the most sense even if he did it.
Vile Kratz is getting worried by what he is saying now about poor Brendan ,he knows that as soon as KZ gets him on the stand he is in big trouble,all his lies will be broken down .
Brendan will be out of prison in 20-some odd years. I'm willing to wager Zellner retires before then and nothing comes of any of her work. It's already been that way for the first 8 years. She's got probably 8 more left at most. She's like 75.
@@RavensFanJ WTk?!?! How pathetic is that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...OMG! Maybe you should count your years of ...nothing much, as it seems! :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
@@RavensFanJ the only ones advantaged by plea deals are the guilty How are the innocent advantaged ? It’s a disadvantage. Get prosecutors to do their jobs and seek the truth first and foremost
@crockettthomson7784 Most arrests are not wrongful. Most of the time, they get the correct person. Though I wasn't saying anyone was advantaged or disadvantaged. The point is if we *didn't* have plea bargains, we would be waiting years for every single case.
@@RavensFanJ if we did not have plea deals perhaps the system would work harder at seeking the truth. There are many plea deals that have been found conclusively wrong Do your jobs LE / prosecutors/ judges and you stop playing advocate for The State RavinsFanJ
Mr. Kachinsky violated his attorney to client privileges (I was told three times). And allowed him to be interrogated without legal representation, his profession out ways his personal obligations. If a defense attorney violated his client privileges and appeared to not be doing his job which it is clear he wasn't doing his job, would he not have his license revoked or at least been fired? If not, he should have been. He had more than every right to reschedule such things so that he would be present with his client. He appeared to be more interested in working for KK then his client. KK is saying this now about the interrogation? If KK is saying this now about the interrogation, why did he go ahead with the prosecution? I hope KK PO's the wrong person and they flip and start talking to KZ. It's amazing how quickly people can suddenly turn against you when they're backed up against the wall. I wonder how KK would be if he was forced into a plea deal for a crime he didn't commit? If he went to prison he most likely would cry. After all, someone convicted of rape is second from the bottom hierarchy in prison. Child molesters are the bottom of the hierarchy. And given his past record, how many inmates would believe he's innocent? Who even in a hurry, takes a three to four minutes to shower? That's like taking a rinse maybe. And he's a bow hunter at that. I know people who bow hunt, and they do things (that are not worth mentioning and stuff I wouldn't recommend) to mask their scent. Most common is using unscented cleaners for their clothes and washing with unscented soap. And they take their time. But my question is what methods BoD use, and why did he do so half heartedly? So, BoD did all these things, except who was using his computer during all this time?
Yes they did ! I don't understand the 7th court of appeals.This was pointed out many times and the 7th refuse to honor the ruling. When there was No lawyer for Dassey... While violated his 6 amendment . Trusting the court hard to do !! When there is so much money involved . While the state hide behind the courts to protect the corrupt !
It's been nearly two decades since the murder, nearly one decade since Zellner took the case, and not one PCR appeal has been won on Avery's side. Even despite getting the okay to test some of the blood evidence back in 2017.
I wish Zellner would take Brendan on too. Not sure who's decision that is but we don't even get an update from current lawyers. I've tagged them on X for some kind of update, but nothing. Brendan was NOT requesting to have another interview to clarify but coerced when Kachinsky was not present and O'Kelly coerced and instantly called LE to state Brendan has something to tell you!! 🤬
@@oz_bogan yes that is true and visa versa, but Brendan has no options of appeal now, so we rely on Mz Zellner to make a break through for Steven, which will in turn release Brendan.
@@nacholocotuco65 there is an option and it's called the ICC. If the case of Brendan's interrogation was put forth then the state would be forced to equip federal resources into their own defence by utilising the 3 letter agencies. If that was to happen then by federal statute if any state law enforcement officer or state prosecutor lied during this investigation, it would be punished as a federal crime thus bringing it out of the states control. There had already been a precedent set for this so they can apply the same method.
Since the prosecution team is employed by the STATE with taxpayer $$, why were there no RECORDINGS of the attorney's "battle plan" meetings prior to trial to become public records for release & available for request?
Holy leading questions for Bobby on the preferred story he gave! One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong, Can you tell which thing is not like the others By the time I finish my song?
Teresa took a call from Dawn Pliszka at 2:27 which would have been shortly after leaving the Zipperer's. Avery then says he hung up his 2:35 attempted *67 call because he saw her coming down the road. It's just about 9-10 minutes from the Zipperer's to the ASY. Avery's was the last stop.
@RavensFanJ Teresa called Zipperers, left message on voicemail that was entered into evidence log, then lost by law enforcement. HOW 🤔 CONVENIENT for law enforcement as it establishes and confirms her last stop. FACT. Check evidence log.
@@3RAV4s I know that happened. I could point out occurrences of those same kind of things happening in other cases too. People are human lol We do however know the exact time from that voicemail, which was 2:15.
How can Krats say kz is reckless with characterisation when he himself destroyed any credibility that Steven had left. He's the worst scumbag of a prosecutor you could ever find yourself being prosecuted by. He, who got that conviction, now states its a possible mistake. Wow. How fucked up is his line of thinking. The guy is a serious wrong'un
He only said he didn't think "First degree murder" and life in prison was necessary. Brendan could have been charged with 2nd degree murder or as an accessory to murder instead, which would be fitting and have lesser penalties.
@@3RAV4s spot on Kratz quote “ I get to interview and present my witnesses 6:51 “ Like Ken used the 13th May coerced phone call of Brendan’s to his mother ( The Fruit Of The Poisonous Tree )
The verbal statement Bobby made to detective Dedering on the 5th November 2005 (almost 20 years ago now gulp) and the written statement has been corrupted by Dedering as to the time TH got to the Avery yard . Almost as if it is being dictated to Bobby to create a much later time for her arrival . In one of the sentences in the written statement he says quote " She had shoulder length brown hair , it looked darker to me" . Darker than what ? It's like Dedering had suggested she had brown hair and he answers " I thought it was darker than that". Apart from the fact that Dedering shouldn't have been involved with taking Bobbys statement in the first place they (the police and Kratz) needed her to arrive at the Avery yard circa 3pm for that to be her last shoot. If she got there at 2.30pm the Zipperers would have been her last shoot which is consistent with Jo Ellen Zipperers first guess under examination in court as to her arrival time of 3pm. The case for the prosecution then falls apart if the Zipperers was her last stop .
Hey New Scott, how are you ? I just have a question for the Puppet Master. Is it allowed to use planted evidences and coerced confession of special needs teen to obtain someone’s conviction ?
3:07 Interesting reply to the O'Kelly question that Kratz provided. BUT, there are a few glaring problems with it. 1. Kachinski and O'Kelly were working with the Investigators and Prosecutor's Office. This is clear in the emails. 2. O'Kelly and Kachinski set this up, there is NO doubt. 3. This Lawer-less May 13, 2006, interview had to be approved by Kratz, which he did. O'Kelly had ZERO legal authority. In fact, O'Kelly was giving these guys advice on what to say. 4. Kratz later stated the reason he approved it, is because he wanted a "Clean Confession" from Brendan. Which is NOT what happened at all. 5. They DID use events from the May 13, 2006, against Brendan, when Wiegert threatened Brendan about calling his mom. What an absolute DICK move.
@@MariaMar-ev9xdWon't take many of your thumbs. Couple months back they lost like half their people lol They opened their eyes like the rest of us after MaM fooled us for a while.
@@RavensFanJ Well perhaps you were fooled by CAM but most of us normal rational people were not, MaM was not made to be fiction, what you see is what happens when it suits a few in power, you are a fool to believe anything else
@@RavensFanJ ..."Couple months back"?! Why, what happened "couples months back"?! Oh, yeah, CAM happened ...that awful piece of ...something! Bleah! And how many "couple months back" did you "opened (your) eyes"? :P :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
@nacholocotuco65 I was on the side of guilty after I read the trial transcripts and looked at the evidence. Well before CaM was made. I only recently even saw it finally. I refused to give DW my money.
"In March 2011, the Wisconsin Department of Justice decided that Kratz's "conduct appears to fit the connotation of 'misconduct' and demonstrates inappropriate behavior, but does not satisfy the elements required to prosecute." He resigned but didn't have to. He decided instead to open his own practice which he did until 2016.
@@RavensFanJ really , Kratz was suspended from practicing law ( license suspended ) for his conduct He did not volunteer is my understanding. Governor Jim Doyle ruled over his conduct and insisted lawyers regulation and effects investigation take place resulting in a time in suspension. 3 months from my recollection
@@RavensFanJ "He resigned but didn't have to" :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) That's the funniest thing that I've heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got to ask ...are you in love with him? Seems like it! ;)) :P
@@MariaMar-ev9xd Nope. Just the truth. He *did* resign, but he did not *have* to. You all would hate him even more if he hadn't. No criminal charges filed *and* still a prosecutor. Imagine it.
