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Ken Rosenthal weights in on the Pirates early success, Mike Clevinger signing with the White Sox, Juan Soto's improved defense, and whether we are getting closer to a Mike Trout trade
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@bretthutchison9245 Месяц назад

As a lifelong Angels fan, Ken was spot on. He said what we've been saying for years. This is a team without a vision. Zero direction and it doesn't matter who the manager or GM is as long as Moreno owns the team. I'm sick of treading water, hovering around .500. Enough already. Go all in or all out. Choose!!

@Realdrlipschitz Месяц назад

I really thought they should have just bit the bullet and traded Ohtani last deadline; dispite them being on a “hot streak”.

@SuperReviews4you Месяц назад

It's all about the money with Moreno. He just wants the team to be competitive enough to make money but doesn't care about winning.

@Realdrlipschitz Месяц назад

@@SuperReviews4you really sucks for you guys as fans man, and I mean that whole heartedly. He’d rather milk that Ohtani income for an extra two months than get 4 top prospects back for the biggest name in the sport. Teams would have paid up too, could have turned the entire playoff picture upside down with Ohtani going to a competitor. I always say, cheap owners have no place in a sport with no salary cap.

@jerryharris6342 Месяц назад

The vision for the team for years has been to acquire star players and to not put a decent team around them.

@johngoldsworthy7135 Месяц назад

Feel bad for angels fans. Your owner is an a hole

@keithkogane1634 Месяц назад

I'm a life long Angel's fan for the past 40 years, trade Mike Trout right now ! Give the guy a chance to win a world series

@FusRoDah-Dovakin Месяц назад

He has a full no trade clause, so he would want a trade first off. And it doesn’t sound like he’s keen on being traded.

@dorothygale1104 Месяц назад

@@FusRoDah-Dovakin A trade of a player with a no trade clause doesn’t necessarily start with the player requesting a trade. There are ways the team can induce the player to consent to a trade which start with making the player aware of tactics the team could do, like potentially sitting the player, etc. Regardless of whether such a trade starts with the player asking to be traded or the team proposing a trade, it usually starts privately by the two parties. If Trout wants to be traded, it is highly unlikely that he is going to make a public demand for a trade. Since such a trade requires both parties to act in good faith, it is not in the best interests of either party to take a public adversarial position and, therefore, any potential trade of Trout wouldn’t become public information until both parties agree on the possibility of a trade and the parameters of a trade both sides agree to, like which teams Trout would agree to be traded to, etc.

@FusRoDah-Dovakin Месяц назад

@@dorothygale1104 you’re delusional to think that Angels will sit Trout to force a trade lmao one of the games biggest stars and someone the owner has a good relationship with. You could prolly do that with an under performing, less popular player, but never with a superstar like Trout.

@dorothygale1104 Месяц назад

@@FusRoDah-Dovakin I said there are ways (plural) a team could induce a player to waive a no-trade clause and then said “like sitting”, which in the context of my comment means that is one example. I didn’t day say the Angels “will” or “would” sit Trout or that is the only way to get a player to waive a no-trade clause. The point isn’t whether or not the Angels would sit Trout to induce him to agree to be traded, but rather, there are various ways any team could induce a player with a no-trade clause to be traded, as it is not at all rare that such players get traded. A no-trade clause doesn’t mean a player can’t be traded; it means that the player is in a control position in the process as opposed to the team having control. If a team wants a player to agree to waive the no-trade clause, the player certainly can say “No”, but that usually leads to a contentious situation, including tactics that one would think unlikely.

@addicted2baseballrgd21 Месяц назад

Ken Rosenthal every interview "That's a good question"

@bhbecca Месяц назад

Every interview, "NOW...."

@REVMetric Месяц назад

It's interesting that Rosenthal said that we've never seen the Pirates make the splashy trade at the deadline while also mentioning that they traded Glasnow and Meadows for Chris Archer. Archer was the most coveted trade deadline piece that year

@tonycompitello7215 Месяц назад

Philadelphia for Trout. Makes to much sense for everyone involved.

@snerdterguson Месяц назад

Does Philly have the prospects? I don't know their system.

@TheBenedictchan1 Месяц назад

@@snerdtergusonTheir GM is Dave Dombrowski so no they don’t have the prospects.

@nicksmith9762 Месяц назад

@@TheBenedictchan1 they have 4 top 100 prospects, 2 pitchers 2 position players

@tedjohnson7485 Месяц назад

What are you giving us and of course you have to take his whole contract.

@chombymusic90 Месяц назад

Except for Mike Trout.

@thescottishlion Месяц назад

The braves will take him!

@makeplaysmedia Месяц назад

always spot on

@willpina Месяц назад

Mike Trout: I want to win in Anaheim, I don't want a trade Ken Rosenthal: MiKe wAnTs TrAdE sOoN mE ThInKs

@jasongiannaros4091 Месяц назад

People give "politically correct" answers all the time. Of course he doesn't want to advertise something like that at the beginning of a season. Plus he has too much respect for his teammates to embarrass them openly

@richycovers Месяц назад

Then Trout doesn't want to win.

@bhbecca Месяц назад

Trout didn't say he didn't want a trade. He said he wants to win in Anaheim. That's very different. Yes, he wants to win with the Angels-- but at 32, if he hits 50 homers and this team finishes in 4th--- believe me he's going to have a come to Jesus moment and discuss moving on-- hope mentioning Jesus didn't offend Joe Biden and the trans community?

@snerdterguson Месяц назад

Wanting to win in Anaheim is like wanting to make cologne out of cow s*it. Not gonna happen.

@greetingsmars Месяц назад

Could the Soto thing not just be as simple as he’s back in right field where he played for the Nats, whereas he played in LF for the Padres the past year.5?

@thesecondbaseman Месяц назад

They should’ve traded ohtani and gotten a significant return

@noso90 Месяц назад

Angels would include Rendon as part of the package with any Trout trade as they'd want to get put of that contract as well

@dorothygale1104 Месяц назад

If the Angels trade Rendon, whether alonr or in combination with Trout, they wouldn’t get out of that contrct, as they would have to eat a big portion of that contract either via a lump sum payment or paying part of the annual salary over time. The Mets are doing exactly that with Verlander and Scherzer’ contracts, although they won’t be paying/subsidizing under those teo contracts for nearly as ling as the amount of time Rendon’s contract has remaining to run.

@davewhite113 Месяц назад

The Pirates were 20-8 last year. Rosenthal doesn't care for the Pirates because of his relationship with Scott Borass. The Pirates are better now and will be better in the future than the Tigers.

@GorbombZombay Месяц назад

Right idk how Torkelson/Riley Greene are more established than Reynolds/Hayes or even Cruz/Davis I’d take any buc in this lineup over guys like tork/baez Parker meadows/Colt Keith are interesting but Pirates division just as open as the AL central 🏴‍☠️

@je9237 Месяц назад

No one wants Trout at his salary. The Angels will need to pay half his salary for anyone to take him.

@SuperReviews4you Месяц назад

The problem is he will need to have a fully healthy year for people to be interested in him with that contract. The Angels are going to have to eat money just to get any sort of prospect return.

@Jayoplantern Месяц назад

they not getting anything back.

@KGO1991 Месяц назад

Send my guy to the PHILS let him do the hometown team!

@SomeChink Месяц назад

Trout could go down in history as the greatest stat compiler of all time

@Landis_Grant Месяц назад

Philadelphia boy Mike Trout is wasting his waning years in Anaheim.

@retrotony4119 Месяц назад

He’s a Phillies guy. If Trout wants to win now, which ever team takes him, he needs to agree defer his salary.

@Roy_270 Месяц назад

I don’t think the players association would let him restructure his contract. That’s pretty much what happened to ARod and the Red Sox

@sebastianshaw4031 Месяц назад

Anaheim Angels should have traded Mike Trout two years ago and there's fans know this now contact age health unlikely 🤨🤔😀😀😀

@Yuhssss Месяц назад

Trout going to either the Orioles or Phillies is likely going to happen later in his career - or maybe sooner?🤔

@AirMason97 Месяц назад

Mike Trout doesn’t care about winning and he doesn’t care about growing the game

@zstang01 Месяц назад

Trout should go to Phillies as much as I would like to seem him on Yankees I think the Phillies would win with him.

@TomSmith-kc8mz Месяц назад

Owners will never agree on a spending floor so how about this: a soft floor. For every team that doesnt reach the floor, a team thats over the lux tax doesnt have to pay, starting from worst to best record. You want revenue shairing money? Spend.

@philosophaster1 Месяц назад

There is already a soft floor with league minimum salaries. However, the gap between the lowest and highest payrolls is a problem. MLB probably needs a hard floor and cap so that there is more competitive balance.

@Gotrovr Месяц назад

I have a feeling T has a bone to pick with Ohtani. What better place to Harbor that is with the Giants. Giants trade Yaz and Slater for T. Restructure T's contract as 45 per year for 4 or 5 years with 40 per year defered.

@curtisbowles9894 Месяц назад

Didnt Trout already have a couple of opportunities to leave the Angels?

@Jayoplantern Месяц назад

Nobody is taking on that contract

@newsflash7718 Месяц назад

They should do him a favor and trade him ASAP.

@chombymusic90 Месяц назад

He has a no trade contract. Trout can only be traded if he wants to be traded. And he doesn't.

@brianstever2146 Месяц назад

Ken I feel like this is all you talk about. Maybe wait for Trout to ask for a trade before talking about it again.

@gregoryandrus5322 Месяц назад

They asked him the question about Trout first. Was he supposed to ignore it?

@Platerpus7 Месяц назад

Trout has 0 interest in winning. He’s not going anywhere.

@bryanjackson405 28 дней назад

As an Angels fan I really hope they do!! Its time to give this guy a shot at going to the playoffs. As long as Arte owns this team....its going to be a shit show!!

@martinmayfield1932 Месяц назад

Juan wasn’t happy in San Diego and it showed add a free agent year…

@tedjohnson7485 Месяц назад

The Angels need a new owner. Arte Moreno sucks. He only cares about selling tickets. Fans need to stop wasting their money buying tickets. We need a massive boycott.

@Milehighmez15 Месяц назад

As a Rockies and Mariners fan, I feel your pain.

@vincenttorrez2862 Месяц назад

Nah I'm going to games

@Dee_Rod Месяц назад

The best thing to do to hurt Arte is not buy tickets and not buy merch..

@randy_Savage82 Месяц назад

Dodger fan here but recently i Checked seat geek and angel tickets start at $10 and checked dodgers tix and top deck starts at $58 … those top deck tix used to be $11.. im not opposed to going to angels stadium to see a game for that cheap a price… arte does suck tho as an owner

@tedjohnson7485 Месяц назад

@@randy_Savage82 That's just the bad seats. I doubt Arte dropped all prices.

@juanpena7436 Месяц назад

Mike Trout doesnt care about winning thats why he took the angels money. He could have come to the east coast and play in ny Philly boston but he chose no pressure Anaheim

@tomk.3428 Месяц назад

Relegation! Compete or be demoted! This is the ONLY way you’ll light fires under the butts of the owners who enjoy the benefits of the TV Money without ever feeling the need to field a competitive team.

@thecathouse Месяц назад

nobody will pay trout those money

@chombymusic90 Месяц назад

Trout has not shown interest in being traded. He is remaining loyal to the Angels and i respect him for that. Stop trying to get the Angels to trade him. Its not going to happen lol.

@taylernorris5647 Месяц назад

Sell the Angels to Steve Ballmer. Trade Trout to the Phillies Trade Rendon in a salary dump to the Rockies Trade Ward, Drury, Hicks, Moore, Sandoval, Cimber, Anderson, and Stephenson to anyone who is willing to give prospects and young players (24 and younger).

@bhbecca Месяц назад

The MVP will either be Trout or Soto. This will be the year for the Angels to trade Trout to the Phillies and come away with a big three player haul in Andrew Painter, Mick Abel and Crawford. If Trout is at the top of the leader board I have no doubt Philly pulls the trigger. Reduces the payroll to the point they can release Rendon if they have to. Eat the last two years of his salary. Trade all the individual pieces away-- Taylor Ward, Drury, Regnifo, Estevez, Moore, Stephenson,... all will bring back good prospects. Then let the kids play and they have a solid nucleus with O'Hoppe at catcher, Neto at short and Moniak in center, Adell in right, Schanuel at first. Good young pitchers in Detmers, Silseth and Soriano. They have a lot of big arms in A-ball coming, but they are 2-3 years away. They have the eighth pick in the draft that will either net them a big arm like Brody Brecht-- or a third baseman like the power hitting Tommy White. They have a stud outfielder who is two seasons away from being their CF. Sell this year and prepare to be a competitive team in two seasons and every year moving forward.

@Dee_Rod Месяц назад

You can't trade trout with othani on the team as well. You have to try to win with both of them.

@bhbecca Месяц назад

@@Dee_Rod I don't understand? Ohtani is gone and they got nothing. So, are you saying it's impossible they'll trade Trout? If Trout asks for it they will. They aren't going to make Trout stay here if he doesn't want to.

@Dee_Rod Месяц назад

@@bhbecca I agree.. I was stating that they weren't going to trade trout while othani was there. You got to try to win with the two best players in baseball at the time. Minus Judge.

@je9237 Месяц назад

They aren’t getting anything back for Trout. His salary is too high.

@bhbecca Месяц назад

@@je9237 Are you joking? if he's healthy is the best CF by far and he's probably the best player in the game aside from Ohtani. $36M for six seasons is manageable for all of the big market clubs. You're just wildly wrong.

@williamcoolidge9884 Месяц назад

Think about this: Mike Trout has never won a MLB playoff game in his life. One series and the Angels were 0-3. And that was 10 years ago. Arte Moreno should be ashamed of himself.

@XxXFlyingArmBarXxX Месяц назад

Ken loves to bring up players past that have nothing to with anything that is of relevance

@chrisscott3030 Месяц назад

If they do Philadelphia doesn't want him.

@allenmcdonough2482 Месяц назад

Trout to philly .

@jjjilani9634 Месяц назад

Ken, Mike trout chose money over the championship. Let him rot in Anaheim. He is washed up anyway, another Giancarlo Stanton type.

@philosophaster1 Месяц назад

Given his injury history Trout’s most productive years are likely behind him. If some other team takes on his contract it will be an overspend.

@theoriginalpizzalicious Месяц назад

no one AT ALL is taking Rendon

@ThemeparkNThings Месяц назад

i love ken but him and everyone need to stop speaking for trout

@stevemiller8895 15 дней назад

Arte Moreno has no respect for his players and Mike Trout has no respect for himself , he needs to go to a place where one , he is not under the arte moreno curse and two where ownership will respect his presence. He needs to see the writing on the wall, ARTE IS CURSED!

@cptjockitch Месяц назад

The love for Mike Trout is insane. The reason the Angels dont win is Mike Trout. Hes unreliable and vastly Overpaid. Stop making excuses for this guy. If you buy tickets for an Angels game you have about a 50% chance of seeing Trout play. This guy had Ohtani and Pujols as teammates and still couldnt win. Im tired of people assuming Trout will go to a team and be better. He will go to another team and miss half the games. The guy is unreliable. You cant possibly win when your best player is iffy every god damn day. Injuries count and no Mike trout isnt all that and a cup of tea.

@steveyi2859 Месяц назад

Stop revenue sharing. It's BS. These teams don't spend money on team players

@kevinmadden1645 Месяц назад

Trade him to the Yankees for Stanton. Yuk! Yuk! Yuk!

@ItzEvelyn121 Месяц назад

Dumb. Covid policy lol

@Platerpus7 Месяц назад

Trout has 0 interest in winning. He’s not going anywhere.

@foreverdnc123 Месяц назад

Trout strikes out 3 times in a game and all is quiet. He did it 11 times in 82 games last season. How do you think fans would react in Philadelphia Boston or NY if he went there and started striking out 3 times in a game. Always been overrated. Has 3 HRs and his fans are predicting a MVP season. As usual 3 HRs and just 3 RBIs

@ldm7574 Месяц назад

Bad take

@Mrwilliamblast Месяц назад

You guys are outta your mind , Mike trout signed that contract willingly and has never asked for a trade! this off season was the first time he has even mentioned the thought crossing his mind , it’s only national media not connected to or interested in angels baseball the keeps this hot garbage 🗑️ of a narrative going , it’s damn near click bait ! we’re 3-2 to start the season , why trade a guy playing well on a new team of young kids , trout said winning in Anaheim would be better than taking the easy way like ohtani . So knock this shit off , this narrative is trash and needs to end .