@@curtismcpsycho8212 You can't just copy certain technique. Kuroki trained his fingers for more than 30 year. Even if you copy the motion your fingers will break.
@@spectaa3138 yes Raian can copy the technique but he needs fingers specialized for piercing. Even 8f he's an anomaly and a freak he can still injure his fingers.
I was intially hyped and hopeful that Ohma would use advance this chapter, but now I'm glad he didn't. At least it was brought up why he didn't use it yet, and to top that off, it's good to see that Ohma is not heavily relying on advance too much so that he can become a better fighter without it. He is taking his master's advice to heart.
@@Alex1000tenten Would be a great theory if its like the same like Kanoh. Wherein Tokita can simultaneously trigger the Advance and goes back to default without any time-lag or an animatiom while transforming.
I think we have seen a bit too many transformation abilities, I think Ohma not using the advance allows us to see Ohma as the base power line as a fighter, the other Advance and Removal users showed that the those Techniques are not enough to defeat your opponent, it does make me wonder how Rolón would stand against those fighters.
Dude ohma is now a better fighter... he shouldn't have to use advance... plus advance is a technique he did not learn from his original mentor.. so I think he will do everything he can to limit the use or if he does use it he will use it at a lower level so that it does not interfere using other technique. Advanced was a technique to counter the removal right? Is the removal technique something the Kure clan are able to use? If not, i wonder if ohma would be able to use it
Meanwhile in an alternate universe, there's a huge fight on Purgatory's bench because Naidan, Fei and Lu Tian are all alive and well and Lolong's going unga bunga mode after the 3 revealed they were undercover worms.
I think it's a bit odd he was all that unreactive to all of them. He actually showed more hostility to Yumimonke than any of them lol. Alan's understandable because fuck Alan.
The Kure techniques are a massive buff tbh.. He has been fighting somewhat evenly against a Kuroki level opponent in Lolong pretty much only using Kure techniques, and the first named Niko style technique he used did significant damage. I think Lolong is definitely going to have another gear or two so I expect to see some more Niko style stuff from Ohma next chapter maybe even some new stuff.
I think that in this pace we are maximally 3 chapters from Ohma showing Kure Family Tradion and Niko Style combined techniques, then he will be truly god level
I saw someone else theorize this; Ohma used "copy" to steal Setsunas "blink" ability. It would make sense that most wouldn't see it or assume he could use it and maybe Koga saw the tail end of it and guessed what he did?
I imagine the Copy technique only works because Ohma already knows a busted amount of techniques. He understands what Lolong did, so Ohma can use his experience to make an accurate replica.
I don't understand anything ... most of Ohma fights are commented on by damn toxic fans ... if Lolong got a Demons Bane and Lolong was on the floor and got up with the "Copy Technique that Ohma used * then fans say that Lolong is GOD, but if Ohma used this *copy technique* is script or script .....to hell with all the fans who don't enjoy the fight
All the people ranting about Copy remeber when Kanoh copied Okubo and no one cared? Kure Style Copy won't allow Ohma to mimic abilites that require certain physique like Gott-Töter, Devil Lance, Razor Edge or Removal. Its not that overpowered. Ohma deserves the power-up like Kanoh did.
I really love to see Yamashita being fucking amazing at analysing the flow of the fight... Goes to show how much he has grown and become used to the underworld since chapter 1
"I'm very pleased, Tokita. This is my first time fighting in a even footing in a long, long time". So Jurota got clapped earlier than we can think? If so, it means that Jurota is not S+
Probably it would make sense on how fast he dodged Rolon cause if he didn't use it Rolon would've more than likely read it and counters ohma's dodge but by him using the advance for a quick burst of speed to get by Rolon and catch him in confusion and get a counter-attack in.
@UC_78b93NdTvDgl69M_4l-wQ Rolon didn't blink at that moment. Plus from what I've seen ohma copies what he sees and that kiryu hasn't used blink Infront of ohma in omega.
@@Mario-wf2br you do realize he has a new heart and been learning kure techniques and the kure family cause can removal on certain parts of their body. Why wouldn't they teach ohma how to use his advance more efficiently lol
When I read the chapter I thought exactly what you said in 2:54. Lolong is described as such an amazing Worm hunter, but he didn't noticed that several members of his team were Worms. On top of that, he didn't even blink when they revealed their allegiance during the past fights. So I hope that there will be an explanation for this, apparent, inconsistency. As for the fight: how about Lolong & Ohma in the end decide to team up to fight Tiger Niko? 😄
A bit of a crack theory, but giving Lolong the benefit of the doubt here, let's say he knew they were worms, what if he let them fight because when he saw the person they would be going against, he knew they would die either way. So he didn't need to waste his effort killing people who were already going to die.
Muteba said Rolon does not think about them, he doesn't go about asking it's not a concern to him. The Worms need to start the fight; Nadian, lu Tian, and Fei were undercover each of them are also unaware of each other's association to the same organization. Rolon told Kazzy, it doesn't matter who the Worms are, don't stop the tournament.
I hope they reveal more of his background. I like him a lot more now that his actual personality is coming out. I hate when they overdo this mystery silent shit.
@@Koraxus same boat hea. I wouldn’t mind Ohma loosing to him . I didn’t mind Ohma loosing to The mighty Beard too so ya…n Ohma and Rian tagging along with Agito and Lolong taking on worms while being assisted by Cosmo’s master n his karate friend against works would be just a dream come true.
@@floatingcloud94 I think Lolong will eventually get to be Gao Ryuki's new master/mentor. Their objectives are rather similar. Similar to Kuroki and Rihito.
@@Koraxus I see they have similar objectives but so does Ohma and Agito so it’s likely Lolong will teach Him n Lolong seems more like the lone wolf super OP neutral type of guy. So mayb they will all fight an all out war with worms but I doubt he will mentor him. Highest probability will be ohma since they are already connected wit both of them being revealed a clone and Gaoroki’s grandpa is ohma and Agito’s master’s master . So ya…prolly Agito and ohma will take him under their wings . However I see ohma going on more missions with Rian later on if Rian survives ..m sure Eric or whoever that other guy was will b super op n survive while thrashing Rian. So ohma n Rian prolly go after him n worms n Agito will also help sometimes but he will most likely take Gaoroki under his wings . Then again we have kyuryui guy in the equation !
The Kure technique Copy is quite similar to Niko Style Water Kata Ultimate technique mirror of water. This Niko Style technique was the deciding move used against Cosmo Imai. (Chapter 189, Kengan Ashura).
I really hope the series expands on the kure technique: copy, and its limits and restrictions, cause that shits broken, ohma pretty much has a sharingan with what we know at the moment lmao
I think that the Kure are gonna play a massive part in Omega when it gets to the Worm stuff after the tournament, I expect them to fight Edward's faction while the Kengan bois deal with Tiger Niko and the main branch of the Worm
im thinking about some of the fighters dying in or after the worm invasion, because there are more fighters here than in KAT and the whole kure clan probably waiting outside somewhere to ambush the worm when the invasion begin just like in ashura. since there are 2 boss battle (tiger niko, edward wu),it would make sense if there were casualities from both sides either random people or named characters. but who?
I am gonna say tho, I did enjoy Ohma using the Kure abilities, atleast until the copy one because the other Techniques relied on movements and specific conditions to be triggered but the copy one is just plain weird, because I am not clear on how Ohma can Imitate someone's else bone movements unless he got the Yujiro eyes. And while I think its good that he wasnt able to copy it fully, I do think the effect of the Technique should have been more minimal.
Copy is about refined perception. Ohma foreshadowed that he learned lip reading from the Kure’s. They have refined the discernment of movement and have a logical reflection schema in determining how the viewed technique was performed. It’s interesting how the Kure’s have a system which values observation as a pre-requisite for action.
Kure also have sensory refining training, if I recall correctly. I mean their profession involves pushing their abilities to the limit and they have cultured this way of life for thousands of years.
Maybe the author forgot about "Steady Bones" if Ohma did get knocked out for a bit. Or maybe I'm misremembering how it works. Either way, Lolong is too over hyped to live, something silly will happen to get him killed.
i think ohmas ace card is he can switch hes advance for a second then turn it off immediately when he lands a blow. so basicaly he can turn if on/off in a second. combining the destructive force of advance and the flexibilty of the neko style and kure tec.
I still hope Lolong wins this fight. He only uses his elbow while Ohma uses 100 different attacks and skills. I just dont like this copy shit. Why is that a Kure technique.
I mean the technique of copy is clearly about refined perception. Ohma foreshadowed that he learned lip reading from the Kure’s. They have refined the discernment of movement and have a logical reflection schema in determining how the viewed technique was performed. It’s interesting how the Kure’s have a system which values observation as a pre-requisite for action.
That is initially what I thought....but he is at close range already. Someone else proposed he used the Snake guys that fought Nitoku's move..which Koga also saw.
Lolong THE KING Donaire will take the W even he’s fighting against Tokita Omar and Sandrovich and the unlimited plot, this is why he’s the KING of Donaires 🐐👑
Ngl I think It could go either way 99% difficulty. Ohma has plot armor and Lolong isn’t the almighty beard, but at the same time he basically tied with the beard (although this was a young a probably less powerful kuroki).
I think the technique ohma used is the same as the snake fighter nitoku fought, the one where it’s said it was a counter to pre-initiative (forgot what it’s called) where they basically “send out” their “intent/soul” something like that for a few milliseconds to throw off a master of pre-initiative. For me it makes sense why koga might know what ohma did. I guess the reason why ohma knows is simply because as rolon said, that ohma might have a higher combat sense. Or maybe it’s another kure technique that’s similar.
It was so fucking weird to hear a technique in the Kure clan allows u to copy moves, lol. It would have been better if it was based on his fighting sense and not on a technique lol, for a show that has nothing to do with super powers and they're telling me a technique allows u to copy moves, lmao.
"nothing to do with super powers" not to stir shit up, but advance/removal/guihun/fallen demon/divine demon are basically kaioken in different forms. as long as there aren't ki balls and flying I'm ok tho.
Comments are making a really big deal about this copy ability... Ohma is a top level fighter, he is highly skilled at many aspects of combat, of course he can replicate some expert moves, copying something that is basically the exact opposite of the adamantine kata should be light work for him...
What if when ohma was watching fei and saying “Another technique I dont know” He was really using the kure style copy technique and downloaded feis niko style techniques aswell
Holy shit yeah I mean it’s not like he’s copying a another style I mean he’s masterd the Niko style pretty much so copying the technique wouldn’t be that hard
I don’t agree with your statement that ohma might be stronger than fei or lu tian because of lolongs comment. It most likely wasn’t about the purgatory worms, but if so then that implies lolong fougjt the purgatory worms in the ring but they never showed their true colors so lolong wouldn’t have fought them at their strongest, plus it’s purgatory rules so obviously he’s holding back
Lo long slowly becoming the first undefeated jobber of all-time. Ohma needs to lose but can already seeing where this fight is going. Lo long not living up to the hype imo
Ohma using the advance for a split second to increase his speed and to change the rythm/flow of his fighting style to throw off pre-initative (or even pre-pre-initative like Lolong) isn't that much of an asspull, the Kure copy technique being that op kinda is... I'd also like to see someone perfecting the art of fenting/flawlessly transitioning between fighting styles to counter foresight/render it useless. That would be the perfect power-up for Okubo.
I was about to be happy when Ohma was about to lose because I am kinda biased when I saw Roloñ Donaire. for those who's wondering what kind of Martial arts of Rolon is using, its just kali from philippines.
In my opinion, his ace in the hole is using both kure style and niko style techniques simutaniously. Similar to Kanoh, where he uses martial arts and formless one after the other with minimum lag. I think he used kure style siluette and followed up with niko style ironbreaker. I think thats his "ace".
Nahh..since he has copy technique just by mere looking at 1 single moment.it made sense that he's the one fighting last.by just looking at all the fights and observing everybody's fighting style.hence, what he did out there is kanoh agito's formless that explains its abnormality in its figure and attack..its like all kengan and purgatory fighting style vs lolong..or i might be wrong
@@Koraxus no, I'm pretty sure he had a tattoo too. Hmm tried to check back but couldn't find any info, which is strange cuz I remember that he was related to them in some way during the fight
@@armandoluiscaldas2858 It was probably just visual confusion since Toa is indeed full to the brim with tattoos. But they're all Maori/Tribal/Pacific islander influenced.
so if raian can beat ohma then he could contest lolong, meaning lolong have to be able to contest eduard wu meaning ohma and raian are as strong as edward wu or stronger or weaker but not by much.
