Kevin Garnett breaks down Ray Allen beef 

They had been plotting to ship him the entire year. Good on Ray.

I find it so refreshing. HE said exaclty how we all felt. In some ways the betrayal of Ray Allen was the worst thing that ever happened to us celtics fans, as disappointing as it was to lose finals due to injuries. It has to be said, what Ray Allen did was a sellout move, not only to everything about that Celtics squad but pre-primadonna NBA.

"You're unquestionably white"

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Agreed. But since they were the public enemy #1 , their biggest rival at the time & the team that just took them out of the playoffs the year before…he could have just left and went to a different instead . To get away from rondo & the organization. He colloid have went to Orlando or the lakers or OKC or Chicago…. He took less money too which was always kinda disrespectful to the Celtics guys

I mean who wouldn’t wanna leave Boston and go live in Miami lol

Ray made the right choice, friendships don't last but that extra 🏆 ring, that's forever

The Celtics tried to trade him to Memphis. He said f y'all I'm going to Miami, now what.

KG wasn’t mad at Boston trying to trade him though. If you try to trade me anywhere when I’m a free agent I can go anywhere I want. The organization didn’t show him no loyalty so why do he owe loyalty to them?

It's still here

@@snakeplay I know, but it ain’t like it was back then. It’s good now, but back in the day it was much more intense.

Bulls Celtics rivalry was better in my opinion . If I remember correctly they had a playoff series where like half the games went into OT and some even went double OT

Not really a rivalry if they was getting smacked lol

​@@css1741stop w that narrative. Boston was a powerhouse. And the Heat couldn't get past them early on. Until father time and injuries catches up w/ the Celtics, only then the Heat can finally defeat them

KG I would say has gone above and beyond in forgiving someone who committed a damn near unforgivable act.

@@lauramalik5156 Unforgivable would be like rape or murder. Signing a contract when yours has expired is called doing business. No crime has been committed by Ray Alan. KG was immature. He grew up an realized he was 100% WRONG.

I agree

He’s only mad bro went to the Heat. Also this is K-motherfuckin-G. You think he doesn’t respect respect to the highest extent possible? 🙄

@MrDarkx1000 who gives AF if he went to Miami or not. It wasn't KG's shit being fucked with, so no one cares how he felt about it. Ray mainly made that move with his retirement in mind and to stay close to his family. If Ainge and Doc don't mismanage the situation, Ray retires a Celtic. Don't act like you love me now when I'm halfway out the door.

Understood, but Ray looking at cribs in the playoffs against them is wild though. As a passionate leader, I’m sure that turned KG off even knowing everything he knew.

⁠@@marby.you've never been in a locker room in your life or played real ball outside of the playground or your local park huh? Cause this comment has don't know what's it's like to play for your teammates or that bond between theee those 4 walls...Doc and Ainge are organization members but KG, Pierce, Rondo, etc etc that's where the real love and "loyalty" to some degree resides...you wouldn't understand where KG is coming from if you've never seen it or been through it

Didn’t Paul pierce get molested by George Floyd crew back in the day , or am I thinking of someone else ?

Yeah that the ultimate disrespect

Boston was shopping him all over the league for a couple years at that point.

@@RAZGR1Zexactly they just mad he did it without them 😂

I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps notebooks full of past things that happened. He's so intense

Only because Ray got an extra 🏆, it's all ego and petty stuff

It's a brotherhood thing. You go to war as brothers you completely have each others' backs. The bond in the Celtics was also super strong because they lived together when they did tours out of the US etc. There was some beef between Rondo and Ray Allen though. KG takes this more seriously than most though, right from childhood. His bond with his mentors is still very strong, and he still breaks down whenever a question on the death of his teammate Malik Sealy comes up. Long story

@@JohnnytNaturalhas nothing to do with the a damn ring lol...he was pissed when he signed there and they hadn't played one game yet

KG can’t help but wear his heart on his sleeves. And he’s unapologetic about it lol

Lmao, I didn’t recognize a single player Steven A was calling out.

Mookie Blaylock brought back mad memories 😂

i always said that Kobe tragically passing messed up the basketball ecosystem!! i think chuck,ej and kenny wanted to retire and tnt would have brought in kobe for him and shaq to build on for the next 10 years instead of dwade!! they also would have probably phased in kg in area 21 and probably tmac…would’ve been fire!!

Truth

No man he should stick to his podcast because with him and Truth all you need is that and old man and the three with Tim Leggler and you're put on

​@@VisionsFromAmarihow

@@VisionsFromAmari true. I could’ve seen that.

He was already checked out

Orlando was good too

I hope so too, because I get sick of all the ignorant comments that side with Ray Allen. People are so reactionary and choose to remain dumb, rather than actually understand why what Ray Allen did was one of worst things ever for basketball fans outside of Miami.

@@lauramalik5156 I actually like the move being a Lebron fan lol. It was one of the first moves that started this trend today. Now the way he left was questionable considering they were friends and could’ve at least said something

It was more because they were literally the winningest regular season team in NBA history before he linked up with them and it just made them unbeatable

Listen: the new NBA is different, when Lebron went to Miami and succeeded kd and other superstars felt comfortable with it. kD never goes to GS if Lebron never leaves Cleveland. I'm actually glad I was able to witness a perfect basketball ball team with golden state. Poetry in motion

@LilBoSkeetE85 it's not that KD joined a super team like LeBron did, it's he joined the team that BEAT HIM lol imagine if LeBron joined the big 4 Boston Celtics in 2010? That would be much worse than joining the heat lol

You know what they say. If you can't beat 'em...

So? He didn't want to be a role player in Boston, but he was ok being one in Miami, your rival? That's a punk move, however one looks at it

@@comradeyellow6781Avery Bradley wasn’t even worth the controversy 😭 idk why it turned into this Shìt 😭😭

@@GrimReaperKeeperyou must be thinking about late career Avery Bradley because when he came on to the scene he was playing out of his mind.

@@GrimReaperKeeperyou drunk Bradley was straps

@@GrimReaperKeeper "Avery Bradley wasn’t even worth the controversy" You know nothing. Avery Bradley wouldn't let you dribble without being in your face. I still remember Jameer Nelson getting pissed off because Avery wouldn't let him dribble across the half court line. He was like "Hey, WTF are you doing? Back the fock up!" Avery Bradley was a pest. Every opponent hated him. Why? Avery was playing that high school and college defense that players stop doing when they get to the league. They got accustomed to not seeing that defense being played then Avery reminded them.

Yeah but by that logic, KG and Paul and Rondo and nearly every other celtic had a right to leave. What Ray Allen did was a sellout move, plain and simple. It's funny how people think Ray Allen was the only one involved in trade negotiations on that celtics squad. And don't understand that Ray Allen was considered a tough but necessary trade piece due to how horrible the celtics bench was that 2012 season. People never understand the context properly unless they lived and remember it.

Who ? Horrible nickname

And than imagine Duncan tying up or passing up Mike

I don’t know the exact year but I think it was 2009. That “first round”playoff series with those multiple overtime games is one of the best “first round” series that I’ve seen.

@@spoonthetrack7643 it was around that time but yes! Loved that series. Don’t see that type of intensity now a days. There wasn’t crazy floor spacing and wide open 3s like now a days. It was a BATTLE and every point was earned. Great basketball to watch

They played 1 time? How is that a rivalry?

Congrats you have won dumbest comment of the day

It was honestly the biggest betrayal I can recall in recent memory outside of the KD move.

@@lauramalik5156 You can call it what you want but where was Garnett leadership skills at when he knew Ray Allen and Rondo were beefing; along with he knew Ray felt some kind of way about Doc Rivers having him come off the bench. Did Garnett speak up then, but when the man leave, he has a lot to say. Also, Garnett is the one to talk about players leaving teams when he practically forced his way out of Minnesota because he couldn't beat Kobe, Duncan, and the Suns back then. Why did KG want to go to Boston to build a super team back then? Hypocrisy at its finest!

​@@marcc.5535you're a 🤡 gotta love casuals like you that call that boston team a super team even tho they were literally all over 30 when they got together. Mfs just love throwing that word around. Wasn't even used back then.😂😂

​@@marcc.5535 I agree with you on the first part about KG's leadership. Your second paragraph you are wrong and you do not know how the Celtics got KG. The Celtics were after KG in 05-06 (two years before joining Boston). KG didn't want to go to Boston. Pierce had a foot injury the year before KG joined. As Pierce was out due to injury, Danny Ainge told Pierce that he was going to be traded or he was going to get a second star to help out. KG was on the trade market since KG opted out, Minn didn't want to lose KG in free agency and they were basically replacing KG w/ Al Jefferson. KG vetoed a trade to Boston again because he did not want to go to Boston. KG was looking at LA or Phoenix. But KG stopped interest in the Lakers because Kobe was demanding a trade. KG looked at the Mavs and Warriors, but they didn't have enough to make the trade work. Pierce DID NOT recruit KG because he felt KG was going to stiff him the same way Baron Davis and Allen Iverson did. Ray Allen had a bad injury so Seattle was looking to trade him. Boston got Ray Allen, which attracted KG. And that's how the Big 3 was formed. KG wasn't looking to form a superteam. It just happened because they were aging stars coming off injury and all three players were on the verge of being kicked off their teams for younger talent.

@@MikeBNumba6 Garnett did not want to sign an extension with Minnesota and threaten to opt out because he "could not win" He missed the playoffs 3 straight seasons and he was frustrated with losing. Therefore, he was looking to form a "superteam" As you indicated, he wanted to join Kobe. Now, what alpha male superstar want to run to another star team to help them win? Lebron and Kevin Durant catches heat from doing that all the time when the fact of the matter is, KG did the same. Kevin Garnett even reached out to the Phoenix Suns looking for a trade when they had Nash and Amarie Staoudamire. Garnett "said that himself" in an interview. You can look it up, its out there. Bottom line is KG didn't win in the west due to studs like Tim, Kobe, and the Suns. So, he wanted to join another star to give him a better chance to win. But, KG has a problem when someone else does the same. He talked about Lebron when he went to Miami. You can look that up to, its out there. Ray Allen did what was best for him when he left Boston for Miami just like KG did what he thought was best for him left Minnesota for Boston.

Movin like KD

Ray Allen was a trader. He took less money to be a bench player for the heat. Could of went anywhere else but he was being spiteful

@@BoosterGoldEarth6 They had already tried to trade Ray several times before that. Why would be loyal to a teak that kept him on the trade block?

You say it like Paul and KG were the ones trying to trade Ray... They most likely had nothing to do with that. Ray was being spiteful.

@@lenorencepayton6879 So Ray supposed to not go get another ring because they don't like it? Paul and KG were the ones doing the talking after he left. It's only sports where people are expected to stay and be happy where they're not wanted. You would never tell your kid to stay in a place that doesn't value you.

I dont know what went on behind closed doors. I understand Ray doing that to the Organization. But him doing that to his "boys" his "riders"... They shouldn't have had to be affected by what they didnt have control over. That was the part that was trash. That was the most low down disgusting move. But I also understand Ray's side as a man. As Boston fan that was messed up

He was a main character on the team…

It's the way he done it. Like KG said, he was looking at houses and stuff already knowing it's a chance he could go and he didn't let his guys know. Like at least tell ya homies you thinking bout leaving

@@richierich4330 I would understand. If there were reports of KG/Pierce telling the front office to remove Ray in those trade rumors. But ultimately Ray needed to do what was best for him and his family. He doesn't owe anyone anything. Similar to when Kyrie wanted out if Cleveland. This is pro sports/business

@aaronhutchinson885 I agree with you. I'm pro player. Do what's best for you. All I'm saying is if you my guy and you thinking bout leaving, let ya boy know. Forget the organization, we talkin man to man stuff

You talking organization wise. KG is saying we boys at least come and talk about your moving on.

His ankle issues had come back and he was in and out of the lineup, if memory serves. That's when avery bradley emerged as a legit player, especially defensively. Started taking those minutes. That was the beginning of the end

Ray Allen was a homosexual he had a thing going on with Bosh, that’s why left Boston

Ray Allen was gay he had a thing going on with Bosh, that’s why left Boston

That’s false. The Celtics offered him more years and more money. When he got injured the year before Avery Bradley took his starting role at shooting guard and when he came back he felt some type of way about that and then in the off-season when they knew he wasn’t going to return they went and signed Jason Terry

And y’all still running with a fake narrative 😂. Ray literally settled for all of that in Miami

Facts

You're an idiot we offered Ray more to stay and play with us. Ray took less money and came off the bench anyway. And the reason Ray Allen came off the bench for the Celtics that year was because Avery Bradley was way more effective in the starting lineup and we needed much more production from our bench unit which couldn't score for shit! Bradley earned his starting position, as he shot over 50% and scored over 15 a game and 40% from 3 while playing elite level defense during Ray Allen's time sidelined with an ankle injury. Bradley was horrible when he came off the bench. We didn't bench Ray Allen for any other reason other than the fact that we wanted to win! You casual fans just follow some stupid narrative, be we Celtics fans actually followed the season and wanted our team to win bad, even if it meant Ray Allen would be our sixth man, even though he got back in the starting lineup anyway when bradley had a season ending injury in the 76ers series.

I 100% agree. That group of primadonnas from the 2003 NBA draft forever fucked up the NBA into the bitchass league it is today.

Yeah Lebron started the slut movement of players jumping from one team ro the other.

How can you say Lebrom changed that when that’s literally part of the Rivalry days you miss? That move created the rivalry and Boston literally did it first. KG left Minnesota to go there and that was Ray Allen’s 3rd team. Most players don’t even have the power to stay where they want. Ask Derozen, Holiday and IT about that. Then he went up against the warriors 4 years in a row and another time with LA. He’s literally responsible for all the high profile rivalries since the decision

Draymond gotta be the most overrated player in nba history

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