Michael Jordan's trainer destroyed Lebron in GOAT debate! 

Goat debate ended in 2011.

Whoever says himself is the GOAT is not the real GOAT. Period.

It's insane that we live in a world where Jordan's legacy needs to be defended and debated. Insane.

LBJ “we came back from 3-1” MJ “you were down 3-1 lol”

It's funny because that debate is going on only in the USA. All around the world, everybody would say MJ without thinking...

When he called himself the goat, that was one of the most cringe moments in sport history

“If you’re good at something, you’ll tell them. If you’re great at something, they’ll tell you.” -Walter Payton

I watched MJ play when i was younger and when the bulls were down by 1, or 2 with 10 seconds left. You knew Jordan was getting the ball and was going to win the game. Every kid was trying his moves on the neighborhood courts and had the shoes on too. Such an awesome time!

DAMN!!!!!! OK, THE ONE STAT THAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS, (THE 10 SCORING TITLES, WITH 7 OF THEM BEING CONSECUTIVE) WOW!!! NOBODY HAS EVEN COME CLOSE TO THAT!!!!!!

There is no debate, there is nothing to destroy! MJ is the GOAT

All I know is that when I see MJ’s highlights I get goosebumps and when I see Lebron’s I feel nothing. MJ is the 🐐 no question. 23 forever 🏀

I don't know how a real man could watch Leflop throwing himself across the court when he isn't touched. Crying into his hands complaining about a no call on a foul. And carrying the ball around without dribbling.

A lot of the younger generations unfortunately won't ever understand how widely known Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls were in the 90s and early 2000s. Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were house hold names, regardless of whether you followed NBA or not. Michael was on the news quite a bit. Lebron and his multiple teams have never had that impact globally.

Greatness doesn’t have to tell people how great they are. Actions speak louder than words.

I really appreciate Lebron for what he did for Cleveland. In fact he's my idol, but I do believe Michael Jordan is the GOAT. The fear factor, the playstyle, the acrobatics, the hang time, the killer instinct, the charisma, physical attributes. He's like a prophet of basketball, chosen by the basketball gods to play just perfectly. He is the GOAT period

I always knew that MJ is the goat. But I never thought that he holds this unbelievable record. The only player 4times regular season MVP, Defensive player of the year, all Nba 1st team and finals MVP. All at the same time. 4x. Insane.

His Airness! . No debate needed.

Watching MJ play was watching art in motion. Not just his dunks, but the way he moved with the ball was BEAUTIFUL!

MJ rocked NBA, he shook the world, no matter what anyone say... MJ will forever be the GOAT

The way we came back in that fashion... Horrible officiating and the pressuring the league to suspend Draymond!

We live in a era when losing 6 finals make you a GOAT, but winning 6 finals makes you a plumber.

I've seen so many times when Lebron himself or his teammate loses the ball, he would get frustrated and just slowly walk back, or even take an early exit when he's losing. That act alone makes him not GOAT worthy. If it was MJ, he would die trying to get the ball back, he would fight till the very end and refuse to lose. He always gave it his all.

I watched that 3-1 comeback, it was absolutely the worst cheating by the officials I’ve ever witnessed in an NBA series!

Having watch the regular seasons when Magic, Ewing, Stockton, Thomas, Bird, Abdul-Jabbar, Wilkins, Malone, O'Neil... and many more, the spectacle, the emotion, the gameplay. It is the golden era of the NBA... and shinning brightest was MJ, making the impossible possible. He has been the best player ever period. He could play all positions, offensive and defensive. Never gave up, had amazing ball control, and was lethal from mid range with a shot almost impossible to block. Did not matter what was your team this man made you an instant fan. Made you play basketball in a different way, loving the game. Humble, hard working... a role model.

I think Michael Jordan shouldn't be compared to any body, He is the best the ever did it. No one had ever did it like Michael, I am 53 years old and I haven't seen no body do the things that Jordan did in the court.

I watched Jordan in real time from my teens to my early 30s. James simply cannot compare.

LBJ in his unabashed speech of making his big comeback win never mentioned that they ejected Dremond Green for two of those games, only the Warriors best defender

Also, Jordan put a hard pause on the dynasties of his time. When he came into the league the Lakers, Celtics, and later the Pistons were the heavy hitters. Jordan helped end that dominance. The Bulls three-peat then he retires and the Rockets emerge with two straight in his absence. MJ returns and they three-peat again while denying the Jazz from a potential dynasty. He retires again and then we see league dominance from the Spurs and Lakers. You can see how one player’s absence or presence set the course of an entire era.

The simple fact that Jordan Era defense was aggressive and people can beat the crap out of you .unlike today and he still did what he did is wild to me.

MJ's style was simply outstanding. This flow in the movements... unmatched. With LeBron, I always have the impression that every move is pumped full of testosterone, and he has to show everyone what kind of stallion he is

i remember jordan being poisoned im his hotel and still playing the game. i also remember lebron quitting because of leg cramps. a warrior vs a complete pansie.

2016 Was a Rigged Finals and The World knew that.

The only reason MJ was regular season MVP only five times instead of seven times, was because it started to get dreary having MJ get all these awards on his own. 1993 and 1998 Barkley and Malone were awarded season MVP. Michael took it personally and answered with finals MVP and winning the Championship in both cases, while Barkley and Malone were way behind their performances compared to their regular season.

MJ was never down 3-1 in a series, so that's why he's the GOAT

If Michael have chance to play our generation his moves always be in top 1 on top 10 highlights

This one time when I was in my 20’s I played hallway basketball against my 8,6 and 10 year old nephews 3 against one. I was 6ft 4 and they were about 3-4 ft. I was focused. The beating that day will be remembered in history. 60 to 0. With over 30 steals, 100 rebounds, and 30 conservative dunks. I knew I did something special. I knew I was the goat..

Its not just 6 rings to 4... Its 2 three peats and never losing in the finals to zero. And so much more. After Kobe, i stopped looking for the "next Michael Jordan." There will never be another...kobe was the closest thing

During the period from 1970 to 1986, as the NBA expanded from 8 to 23 teams, no team managed to achieve consecutive championship victories. Winning a championship alone is an arduous task, but defending the title and accomplishing a repeat victory is even more challenging, mainly due to other teams closely studying your strategies to take you down. However, in 1988, the Showtime Lakers broke the pattern and became the first team to successfully repeat as champions since the league's expansion. This feat was followed by the 1990 Bad Boy Pistons, and in 1992, the Bulls also achieved a repeat championship win. The next year, in 1993, they pursued the elusive three-peat and remarkably, led by Michael Jordan, they secured three consecutive championships. Michael Jordan's accomplishments were extraordinary, as both Magic and Isiah could not replicate his success. Even during his initial retirement, many already considered him the Greatest of All Time (GOAT). However, he made a sensational comeback and added three more championship rings to his collection, consecutively! Let's emphasize the difficulty of REPEATING: Michael Jordan not only led his team to a historic three-peat but achieved the legendary and incredibly rare REPEAT THREE-PEAT. Such an achievement is unparalleled, and only those with two(2) three(3)-peats should be worthy of wearing the number #23, making Michael Jordan undoubtedly the greatest basketball player ever-THE BEST THERE EVER WAS AND THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE. Edit: 2 other insane stats of the Jordan-led bulls - Bulls never lost 3 in a row in their championship winning seasons - Bulls never lost a playoff series to a team that was equally or lower seeded than them. HE ALWAYS WIN WHEN EXPECTED TO WIN, NO UPSETS

Tim Grover is absolutely correct 💯. Michael Jordan's the undisputed G. O. A. T. THIS POINT IS NOT EVEN DEBATABLE.

Jordan also never asked to play with better players. He helped his team be play better. Also, f they lost the game to a controversial referee call, he didn't blame the ref, he blamed himself for leaving it in the ref's hands.

Growing up watching MJ. MJ always made it look like it was easy to him. Lebron always seemed like he was struggling.

His mouth said one thing, but his body language said another. He himself did not believe in what he was saying. Greatness is consistency. Wining year after year after year no matter what adjustments the opponents make. Climbing the mountain is hard, staying there year in year out is even harder. MJ is the GOAT. Not even debatable.

dude really did not acknowledge kyries contribution to the cleveland championship

Bron just needs to fade away into obscurity

Watching MJ playing was pure magic! He was, is and will be the goat forever!

Forget all the stats, just look at the way MJ moved, his style. He helped change the way basketball looked.

imo it comes down to this. who are you picking to represent you in a one-on-one if your life literally depended on the outcome? your player loses you die.

MJ after winning 2nd 3peat after returning from retirement: Wanna talk about special? Hold my cigar.

“He who praises himself deserves no praise at all”. - idk who said it, it just feels right 😂

To me Mike is the Goat not just because of his stats but because of how he played the game it was like watching poetry

which debate?

Whoa. That’s a mic drop right there.

An example of how important mj was for the NBA, in the 90s without social networks in all parts of the world, every child and every adult knew who Michael Jordan was, even if they didn't like Basketball, that's unmatched, I say it knowingly, I'm from Argentina

Michael Jordan wasn't only the greatest basketball player of all time, he might even have been the greatest athelete of all time. He was just that dominating and competitive.

This is not a controversial question at all. It's Jordan hands down. No question.

The only reason you’d say LeBron is better is because you didn’t watch MJ play. Period.

In an 11 year stretch between 1987-1998 MJ won 9 scoring titles and was 9 time first team defensive selection. Won 6 of each retired and came back and awarded 3 of each again. Throw in a bunch of rings, MVPs, FMVPs, and a DPOY. That is by far the most dominant stretch of basketball in NBA history.

People forget that MJ was killing from day one as a rookie leading the league in scoring. Not to mention the first player to win defensive player of the year and mvp with a scoring title. 🐐 enough said

It's not a debate to me. It's Jordan, and it's not even close. The Queen's fans can keep hollering all they want. Anytime a man got to beg for respect, that should tell him that he needs to stop trying to convince people of something most people will never except.

Jordan or Wilt. Lebron isn't even invited to the presentation ceremony !

As a Lebron James fan, I can honestly say that Michael Jordan is the greatest player of all time

Most stats favor MJ, but you really don't need that if you watched them both play their whole careers. Michael was just a master of the art of basketball.

His skills matched his mindset ! No flopping, no BlaBla. Winning for him was everything. When Jordan finally stepped down, he left a huge void. It's pathetic to see how morbidly the nba is trying to compensate for this. He was a Talent once in a lifetime, the only GOAT

Jordan was the best, but Lebron is the best race hustler of all time next to Al Sharpton!

Mind you all of MJ's accolades and accomplishments are accumulated within 12 - 13 seasons of his career. Now if MJ played as long as LeBron has so far, can you imagine how insanely crazy his stats would be?

Older Kobe looked great against Prime Lebron, and he's considered a slightly lesser Jordan. So really, LBJ's gotta get past Kobe before he can assail MJ.

My favorite LeQueen moment: His reaction when Kahwi comes back in the game😂😂😂😂😂

Lebron “You did something special “ forgets his team did a lot too ! SMH

The way defense was played back in the MJ era was rough as hell. Cinderellas play the game today. Everyone today wanted to play like Mike. Remember that

Jordan went to college , took seasons off to play baseball , and still did what he did minus those seasons .🐐

Jordan, Magic, Koby, Bird, Petrovic!

Chamberlain is the GOAT. Listen anytime to Jordan speaking about the legends.

I think time periods are relevant here as well. A solid, and arguably more dominant, stretch of MJs career came before things like social media and widely used internet. People all over the world knew him anyway and stopped what they were doing to catch the game live on tv on the one channel it was on. He was a worldwide household name simply by word of mouth, and was solely based on his talent. There was no social media to focus on his material assets like cars, jewelry, or what outrageous outfit he was wearing to the game. He earned his attention on the court, during the game.

Im gonna be honest, I completely lost interest in basketball when Jordan retired. And to be even more honest, my loss of interest started when he left the Bulls, but he was still my guy so I held on until he called it quits. He's an inspiration both on the court and off.

MJ also took time off to pursue golf and baseball. Only a goat has that ability. How many times did MJ lose a championship series???

Younger people see Jordan like I saw Jim Brown when I grew up in the Walter Payton, Barry Sanders eras. My old man said Jim Brown was better, but he was before my time, so I instinctively pick other running backs from my era and later eras like Adrian Peterson.

People really need to go back and watch MJ highlights and pay attention to the other team bench, and look at them being amazingly shocked at MJ talent

Even Rich Paul rolled his eyes and shook his head when Lebron made that statement.

This gives me shivers. Michael Jordan was superhuman. MVP for the season, MVP for the playoff finals, scoring leader for the season, scoring leader for the playoffs AND 1st teal Defensive Player--it's only been done 4 times in the history of the NBA by these men: Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan. Case closed.

Wilt is the GOAT if Jordan and LeBron are to Play in his rules and Era. Wilt would just wait in the rim and Goal tend all there shots, since its still okay to do so.

I'm 41 yo in 2023 I grew up in the 80s & 90s In an era with no social media Yet MJJ's aura spread to my side of the world (Ghana, West Africa). Watched him on TV in the Olympic Games at Barcelona 92 and in Space Jam on Cartoon Network. MJ & Messi have so many things in common (freak of nature and attraction of unforced affection). LBJ is just like CR7 (self-indulgent dudes who crown themselves and forcibly project themselves on people's perceptions)

I say MJ 100%…not only because of stats and ships…but look at how long he’s been retired and people are still buying his shoes and jerseys…that tells u how much of an impact he made on sports and how many people were brought to basketball either as players or fans because of him…

This is the reason why MJ is the GOAT. *MJ on the GOAT debate in the press conference immediately after winning 70 games in 1996* "No. I think that's something that I really can't say can be established," Jordan said. "Each of us played in different eras, with different teams, with different levels of success, and to compare all of them and say one's better than the next is an unfair justice to the art or to the artists. You know, being that Magic Johnson, Wilt Chamberlain, and all the guys before me were the artists of this game of basketball, and we've all learned from them, and we've improved the picture to a certain extent and to say that one improvement is better than all of it? It's an unfair assessment."

*_“Any man who says I am the king is no king” - Tywin Lannister - Game of Thrones_*

This is not even a debate Michael Jordan is not only the GOAT he is also the most recognized athlete of all time and what a mentality, he just had to win, what he did for Basketball and the NBA speaks for itself, he took it to heights it had never been before and let’s face it if he hadn’t retired could the Bulls have won 8 in a row?

People underestimate the fact than MJ is 10 times max scorer a 3 times steal leader. This is priceless

His airyness was goooood. He jumped hiiiiiiii with his airyness.

It doesn't bother me if people want to believe that LeBron is better. Everyone has a right to their opinion. What bothers me is when LeBron fans pretend that only MJ superfans believe MJ is better. I hated MJ when he was playing. He denied championships to most of my favorite players for his entire career. My favorite team was whoever was playing against the Bulls. Jordan earned my opinion that he is the GOAT. I never gave him anything he didn't earn.

"When you good at something, you'll tell everybody... when you are great at something, they will tell you." The real goat has never said he is the goat and that is Mike, no question about it and it is not even close. Lebron can thank whoever that he plays in todays era. Because I don't think he would have played that long in the physical era of Jordan, ranking up these cumulative numbers everybody is praising him for. I also think he would have lost the joy playing very quickly, because of the competetiveness back then. It was almost a battlefield out there and you had to be ready to get physically injured driving to the basket.

Michael Jeffrey Jordan is the undisputed G.O.A.T. of basketball. Lebron is not even in the same stratosphere.

I have to agree...M J is the best ever...but ! My man " Kobi " is on his heels for second...

Lol LBJ credited himself for the Cavs winning in 3-1 when Kyrie saves them with a dagger 3.

Michael Jordan was not surrounded by the greatest players but his drive and passion for the game made everyone around him better. Put Lebron w the same players MJ played with (not bouncing from team to team to be around other great players) Lebron would not have been able to lead by example like Jordan. There were other really good players on the Bulls, but Jordan was never in the company of other great players like the teams LeBron decided to play for in free agency.

"If you own a pair of Jordan, you have a pair of Jordan stand up." Facts!

Owning a pair of shoes has more to do with marketing than with basketball skills. I agree with him for other reasons but not that one.

Jordan... hands down... not only his accolades, but Jordan transcended basketball, and he pioneered turning the NBA into the global powerhouse it is today. And, he made his teammates better, held them accountable, Most players who thought they wanted to play with LeBron, when they ended up playing with him, they couldn't wait to get out of town. And I totally agree with the comment where, if ur truly the G.O.A.T., u wouldn't have to call urself the goat, ask players who have played against Jordan and LeBron, they will say Jordan is the greatest.

I watched Mj, Kobe and Lebron all these decades. Anyone who says Lebron is the new GOAT simply do not understand basketball. I am not even sure if Lebron would win a chip if MJ plays in this era. He doesn‘t need 20 years to win 6. That‘s how great he is. If MJ and Lebron played in the same team, Lebron would be like Mj‘s modern Pippen.

There is a big problem with Jordan that, I believe, triggers this whole debate; He made it look easy.

Winning from 3-1 deficit made James the best??? Jordan never put his team in a 3-1 deficit so ????

I think the last part was when Tim Grover asked how many times you heard about someone being robbed for a pair of Jordans versus Lebrons 😂😂