KEVIN SMITH REVIEWS JUSTICE LEAGUE 

RandomBlackGamer he also reviewed some punisher and talked about swallowing cum on tbs ... sooo ... not sure this whole thing counts as a review lol

by 3 minutes lol

The Movie is 1h 49 min + 2 post credit-scenes

Dude, have you seen Moviebob's Batman v Superman autopsy? He's already at 3 hours between two of three parts.

Joshua Jansen I saw it. And there's a third part coming.

GrizzleyBruin thanks! I clicked for a JL review and got Punisher spoilers instead. Had to stop and read comments to see when the review started lol

Lifesaver 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

For fuck sake. This is why i unsubscribed from this podcast mark Bernard ruined this show when they changed the format.

THANK YOU

tony2k79 Same..

Hail To The Chin I understood that reference

I got that reference

Start of the hart attack

*Marc

Who complains about Marc. I love Marc. He isn’t a comedian but does a great job with insight

Marc's the man. I look forward to his insights more than Kevin's

What numb nuts is complaining about Marc

Who complains about Marc? I fucking love Marc.

What a world we live in.

If they were talking about the Snyder Cut, a.k.a the Real Justice League movie, the crowd would cheers too.

@@marciofilho2137 still a shit movie

First ten minutes or so is like filler

Last ten minutes or so of JL was credits; So it's still pretty much longer than the movie. Which was a shame. It FELT like the movie had been trimmed down, and I really would've liked to see more of the characters, and see the story fleshed out a little more. ANOTHER mistake by the execs... Insisting the movie come in under two hours, when they're finally on the right track.

Almost--but I get your reference. This is yet another movie requiring more consumer money spent to see those deleted scenes and un-filmed story boards.

I’d watch this again over the movie.

It's funnier too and the special effects are better.

Some people are visually stunted, I saw it in the trailers and couldn't stop laughing it was so pathetic.

I couldn't notice it as well

+NorthernSeaWitch It's not in the trailers . . .

I only learned of it after viewing it. Didn't poke out that much.

Not retarded He wasn't talking to you lol

That's how you know this is a bad movie. When people just literally sitting around spitballing come up with a far better movie on the fly. Now to be fair execution is always key, but Mark and Kevin clearly had a lot of good ideas for what would work with a Justice League movie. WB/DC should go and hire Kevin Smith to direct a DCEU movie. Hell, make him the DC version of Kevin Feige. He knows movies, he can actually write and direct, and he loves the source material and has worked on comic book movies before (including the aborted Superman: Reborn and Daredevil).

Amy J. Delevingne you are 100% accurate.

Amy J. Delevingne I guess that could work.

Amy J. Delevingne Who are you talking about?

Amy J. Delevingne True. IDK. There's many, many holes in these movies.

No one know why Clark actually stop coming into work , was it superman in the casket or was it Clark

(If the list is real) there was apparently a scene at the end of the movie where Lois and Clark go back to The Daily Planet, with Lois saying, "Perry White, let me introduce Clark Kent, also known as Superman." Not saying it's the perfect answer, but it's one way to do it, having the Planet take advantage of having Superman on the payroll.

Everything Comics if by sick you mean it made you want to throw up... I agree

In that scene there is a hanging incident when aquaman saw a green goo in his hand after holding the rescued man. That explain nothing at all.

Amy J. Delevingne yes.

Amy J. Delevingne no. I don't willingfully seek out garbage. Which is why I wouldn't have seen JL if I knew what I know now...

Amy J. Delevingne its after saving the stranded fisherman.. when aquaman holds a glass or bottle of liqour after tossing the rescued man in the table he noticed that green goo in his hand, but explains nothing. I guess we have another of that lois lane bullet incident until they released the bvs ultimate edition and explained that bullet scene purpose.

I think he's been okay, and with better material I think he could have been an amazing Batman. Sadly I think he's on his way out and he could have been DC's version of RDJ with Iron Man.

I'm sorry but I'm not understanding your question. Could you please rephrase? What about RDJ?

Well, I'm assuming that if they did the DCEU movies in such a way that was far better and as such they're raking in money and are thus able to afford Batfleck at the rates that RDJ commands.

Kevin had Creative control of Superman but they booted him

I'd rather have Geoff Johns the head of DC.

I totally agree with you. You need someone who both knows and loves the source material, but also understands movie making well enough to know when they have to tweak said source material for the purposes of the movie. He would also be a big help livening up the dialogue (which they desperately need because MOS and BVS both depressed and bored the absolute hell out of me), and he'd add a new and different perspective to things. I almost think WB should have Kevin Smith direct a Flash movie, he'd be perfect for it, or even a Green Lantern flick. Also, he and his comic book buddies could come up with a lot of good ideas for where to take a DC cinematic universe (and DC is in desperate need for some kind of centralized direction and overall story arc). In summation, Kevin Smith couldn't be any worse than what DC has now and he would bring a lot of zest to the DCEU.

Richard Shasteen Idk, Kevin Smith wants Clooney back. I'd rather have Smith just be an audience like is, and gives us his genuine thoughts

Amy J. Delevingne If you want Kevin Smith to be Kevin Feige, Kevin Smith has said he wants to bring Cloony back

Kevin is an avowed uber fan, he just wants this stuff up on the screen that he grew up with, one way or another. Too low of a bar for me but he's not stealth about his opinions.

He just wants to enjoy movies. No point in being bitter all the time. I'm the same, I'm watching a movie so I'm having fun no matter what. Tho there's a handful of movies Iv seen where I'm just fucking bored or saying what's this shit? Lol

if he bashed them no one in the industry would talk to him anymore...thats why he kisses ass so much. he used to be brutally honest when he was miramax's darling indie writer/director and could get away with it.

He said it took him a few watches to like BvS

he really doesn't , he just points out the good and the bad

"Not letting him"? Dude was playing Batman, Directing, AND writing it. Bit much for one dude, so he stepped down.

Lance Bombers they do but are way to concerned with catching up to marvel

Bruce Snow you want it longer? Funny, your girlfriend complains about the same thing

Vote Green hah, ok, that made me laugh for some reason, props to that.

Keyboard gangstas out in full force tonight

Bruce Wayne I want to see the completion of vision.

You DLCEU fans are a major part of the problem as to why WB and DC will never change their shitty business practices. You're actually proud to be ripped off, in business terms you're called "a Whale" or "a mark" which translates to "a person with no sense of value and will happily spend excessive amounts of additional money on something that's worth almost nothing". Real movies don't have sub headings like "Ultimate Cut" or "Extended Cut" and real movies don't have DLC.

Shorter running times can squeeze more showings..... sadly it's all about the money.

They cut out a ton of important scenes that added to the story and did a better job at introducing you to the new characters. It didn't feel like I was watching a movie, It just felt like a bunch of scenes chopped together. But that's what happens when you frankenstein two different directors movies together and cut out 30 to 45 minutes of important scenes. I love Justice League and was really looking forward to the movie, but it was incredibly mediocre and disappointing. The Flash vs Superman part was cool though.

Yeah_Im_Garrett and when it is , people say the movie is too long

Try 1 hour 30 minutes longer. It was supposed to be a 2 parter

Yeah_Im_Garrett ...to compete with this rewiew

An now its a 4 hr movie. Time flys

@@matthewsolis3826 whoa. I have no memory of this comment. Lol.

LOL, "battery clips attached to his balls" BUY A CADILLAC "brought to you by Disney"

Iain B RU-vid doesn't do that. The people who upload videos put in how many ads and where they are placed.

Kirby has been dead for 23 years so.... no. Unless you mean his art style and then you got that in Thor Ragnarok, which a lot of DC cock suckers hated so you can't win there. And I say art style as Kirby couldn't write good dialogue to save his life.

Great points! Loved the movie all 3 times I’ve watched it!

Bry T You Spoke Nothing But Truth

Agreed. Johns needs to be the Feige of DC. He really KNOWS how to make big huge comic stories. WB has gotta trust someone with a vision.

True. DC honestly has a much better universe, besides some characters like Hulk and Spider-Man. I’m honestly shocked at the difference in movie quality.

Idrissi Meaning?

Billy Sotherden Atlanteans are going to talk underwater instead of making air bubbles

Amy J. Delevingne Atlanteans were just able to talk underwater. Aquaman only used telekinesis when communicating with marine life

Amy J. Delevingne he doesn't physically talk to the marine life. Just mind to mind communication.

Sorry Amy but my nearest cinema is a 6 - 8 hour round trip away. If I'm going to go to a cinema then the movie better be complete and great.We already know an extended edition is going to be released. And all the reviews I have seen are saying the same things. It's not great, it's a step in the right direction. It does have problems etc. etc. I'll watch the extended edition.

jgfjgfify Good to hear mate :) If I wasn't so far away I would go see it but it's just too far for a movie that people are saying it's just "alright" and to hear now that a lot of scenes have been cut out. It's just not worth going all that way to see part of a movie. I'll watch the extended on google play :)

It is because of these blockbuster movies that we are getting a decrease in quality films, films are being made for spectacle and the budgets are so high the more artistic film makers just can't compete so you have directors like Valerian or Mad Max needing a decade to raise enough money to even be listed next to the other films. The comic movies do not need your support they are visual roller coaster rides with little respect for the source material, it is in their nature to be safe investments with low risks and it's a sad trend, I refuse to give them money until I know they are worth it, they are destroying the comic book film genre, just so we are all aware... It will be like the Bond/spy genre they will milk it until no one gives them money and we will be left with a black hole and out of ideas for remakes. Take the new Jurassic World trailer, completely unnecessary plot, completely unreasonable money grab, they are laughing at the audience while they cut more and more corners and there is no defending them, I felt Justice League was shot entirely on green screen and I stopped caring about it as soon as I saw the credits they are just big VFX showreels to me and they seem to be getting worse, I actually think Avengers was the beginning of the end for storytelling it was full of fuck yea moments with little substance it's becoming like the Apple vs Android shit and either way we lose because they don't respect the audience they just want to fight over seats in the cinema, stop playing their game see what you want to see and stop lowering the bar of film making just to support universe building.

Sadly the more the government taxes us, the less people will be able to go to the cinemas. When taxes go up, so does everything else. To pay for everything else, the people have to work more. And working more means the cinemas become a luxury more people can not afford. Last time I went to the cinemas it cost me over $100. Not everyone is in my position but a $10 bus ride to the ferry, $10 ferry ride to the mainland, $20 cab ride to the cinema, $25 for the ticket to the movie, $20 for a drink and popcorn, then another $20 cab back to the ferry, another $10 ferry ride back to the island. And that's just for me, imagine you have a family to take with you. I don't regret having my family for a second. I would take playing in the backyard with the kids over the best movie you have ever seen any day of the week. All I am saying is that going to the cinemas in my case is just not important. Especially since I can just watch it when it comes on tv or a streaming service when I can find the time. If you can still make it to the cinemas then that's great and I hope you enjoy the experience. But for me that experience is a distant memory. . . . in more ways than one haha :D

TT it's still trash.

Good one! This beats my previous favourite from the internet... Batman vs Superman: Dawn of MARTHA.

BUuUuUCKYYYYyYyYY

Steppenwolf "That's the name of my mother box" Batman "Did we just become best friends!"

ah so many people still don't realize why that scene was so good and important? marvel fanboys or people that just can't understand it?

sinistar99 M-U-S-T S-A-V-E M-A-R-T-H-A !!

I have no idea but somehow it made it into a superman movie. I can only picture Kevin with his dumbfounded look asking the same thing. That being said I think I remember Peters being credited as a producer on Man of Steel.

Blacklily Orchard absolutely not equal. Knightcrawler is Frank Miller's Battank that also can crawl on falls.

Oh shit. Fuckin giant spider again.

Blacklily Orchard Funny. The thing it reminds me of is the scuttler in the Batman Lego movie

Man of Steel. The fortress of solitude has a guard, theres at least one shot of a polar bear and the big terraforming machine has a lot of fucking legs.

Ronit Mukherjee and it's still trash.

@@TimeForDunston without even watching the movie? Wake the fuck up!

@@mukherjee22 you already think it's great without watching it, what's the difference?

@@bryanmills1638 how is it different? It's the same fucking thing as never having seen it and calling it trash🤣

@@bryanmills1638 how is it different? It's the same fucking thing as never having seen it and calling it trash🤣

See, that's something they should have figured out before they started filming. Whether I like Snyder's style or tone (and I honestly don't) you have to try and keep the movie more or less nominally intact. By cutting 50 minutes out you lose too much, 5-10 minutes of a movie are one thing, but you can't cut the movie by approximately 30% and still expect it to hold up. That's also why BVS, SS and JL seem so choppy, you can't cut that much out of the movie and still have the remains hold together. Again, they're literally missing a little less than a third of Justice League, and that isn't counting certain scenes that they reshot, like the resurrection of Superman.

Doesn’t matter, DCEU in whole is a joke now, especially their fanboys! They scream left and right about marvel being for kids ,and then dc turns around and teams them up with wwe and Scooby-Doo 😒

The sad thing is that I think the problem the DC fans have is they're in an abusive relationship with WB. WB knows there are a lot of die hard DC fans who will stick by this stuff no matter what and they're abusing that fact by putting out movies that aren't very good. It's clear to me that WB doesn't really care about the characters or the plot or internal consistency or even the overall quality of the DCEU movies. They just put the movies out and expect the fans to show up and spend money. It's really not good and I feel bad because I abandoned DC back at Man of Steel.

pittland44 not really, The millions declining from man of steel till now shows otherwise, if it is done right they will get lots of money. Now not so much.

pittland44 the sad part is, the movie was screened by hundreds of their fans a month in advance, and they spread word that it “and I quote) epic, great ,awesome, DCEU has arrived etc... it was a joke on every one , and by fans defending this turd nugget, they are saying “ it ok we will take it , just do mediocre next time” 😒

Paul Seidler Agreed. The look of Gotham was just classic! Need more!!

and the parademon leaving behind some motherbox logo residue as a cue for batman... that's a little too silly. the whole movie was full of those silly moments. just enough to make it average overall. fun, but not really high quality movie making.

Paul Seidler That scene was not that great and it was very comicbook and almost cheesy and looked fake.

Paul Seidler h that's probably my favourite scene in a movie I was disappointed by

Amy J. Delevingne What I'm saying is that rooftop scene was trash because batman moving around that water tower like spiderman to scare that guy was corny as fuck. How he climbed all around the water wasn't scarey it was funny. And when he jumped on the parademon and fly all around just to wide up at the same roof was almost batman and robin shit in my opinion. And mos bvs was good because they took it seriously as if superman arrived tomorrow. This movie had a lot of bullshit scenes in it. I want superman helping out the whole world, going to Africa and mexico and so on. I want wonder woman going to stop child trafficking and other crimes around the world. All these characters could be in this world now helping people in real events. They went from serious to batman and robin when they need to be like Nolan. And stop shooting in front of green screens so fucking much and film in real places. And have superman really on wires like they did in the 78 superman for street scenes. This film was a big let down.

Depends on the characters. At clarks funeral it was full of people who probably knew he was superman. Perry white and that chick went to his funeral but so did the priest from man of steel and pete ross. Like the other person said undercover op but I think it should be that he somehow got amnesia during the doomsday fight and just got lost for 2 years.

Amy J. Delevingne i think there's a chance doomsday could come back like superman but there would be no point since superman already died.

@@kluneberg8952 Negative. There were a lot of family friends at Clark's funeral. They wouldn't have known. Pete Ross may have suspected due to the bus incident in Man of Steel, but he didn't know. Clark's co-workers were there. There's no reason they would have known. The funeral was open casket, so EVERYBODY at the service and the wake saw his dead body. His obituary was published in the Daily Planet. Unlike in the comics, in BvS, Clark Kent has been verified dead. They can't do him trapped under rubble or walking around with amnesia. Snyder got carried away stuffing "badass" moments into the film and painted Clark Kent into a corner.

By not making another movie

He will pretend to be Clark’s brother Mark.

Christian Athas When trying to spell Zack Snyder's name you made every wrong decision.

Billy Sotherden hahahahahaha god damn that had me dying

Christian Athas they need to fire Whedon first.

Rob Schneider Cut would be epic

who is Zachary Chleiber?

Nahhh

Was it? I don't recall seeing it in Snyder's cut and he included everything he filmed.

@@Michael_Ian_Blackface Dude. That was 3 years ago me. You'll have to take it up with him.

Yeah well screw DC movies and comics I'm boycotting them permanently unless we get Snyder's version.

Me 🙋🏿‍♀️

Yup

jgfjgfify I beg your pardon?

i agree with the anthology angle

Considering how famous the characters are and how easily explainable their powers are, you can do like a Justice League trilogy while also doing different solo movies

Earth Fire Water Exactly. The narratives could broadly speaking overlap, but style can be completely different. Not that I’m saying they go this far, but consider The Animatrix as an extreme example. All stories from within the same universe, but completely divergent in terms of how the stories were told.

Amy J. Delevingne Aquaman is in post production, Shazam is about to start shooting, Wonder Woman is in pre production so they haven't stopped yet, though it won't surprise me if some big changes will be made. After all, they are really pushing forward with Flashpoint which apparently will retcon the entire DCEU They should have drop Snyder after the BvS backlash instead of trying to do something different with him. This lackluster performance is because hardcore DCEU fans didn't like the way WB treated Snyder while regular audiences saw a movie that was a mess

he really sucks

Henry, of course. Welling as Superman would have been cool.

@Amy J. Delevingne Because he just fucking IS awesome as Kal-El.

No. Cavill doesn't have the charisma for Superman.

Yes

pittland44... Very good point.

Starro, Amazo, The Manhunters, The Extremists, The Elite, Queen Bee, The Grey Man. Justice League has a whole ton of sweet options with their supervillains. All of them require the right type of execution to work in live-action yes even Starro can be extremely scary if done like; H.R. Geiger's Alien concept, agreed.

I think he gets too full of himself when there's a crowd. Like he tries to show off and throw Marc under the bus.

Thank you...he’s trying to ham it up too much in front of an audience

Scott Sweet fans get to partake in this, so we might not get what we want but I definitly want to be there one time

my thoughts exactly, Marc was making some excellent points and you could tell Kevin wants to be top dog and get 99.9% of the attention and laughs and shat on most of what Marc said then backhandidly complimented them in a glib narcissistic fuck way.

Dave Wilson TRUTH TO THE CORE

Dave Wilson it felt like a Justice League animated movie story structure, I feel like Zack Snyders cut is a more honorable sequel to BvS. Especially honorable to the audience that enjoyed BvS or even loved it.. they're are people that love that movie personally. Man I wish I can watch Snyders cut rn

Most definitely. I loved this movie.

To be honest this has been a good year for comicbook movies definitely better then last years. with Justice league and Thor ragnorak it felt like I was watching a Justice league cartoon and avengers earth mightiest heroes and that's a good thing.

Justice League not being perfect is like saying The Room isn't quite Shakespeare.

M H lol if Zack Snyder's DCEU movies were art, so were the Transformers movies. Bland CGI destruction porn with soulless characters, style over substance, and the trademark egotistical way of thinking it's so clever when it actually doesn't work at all on any levels.

Well said

It was already confirmed on Doctor Strange first movie.

Batman felt true to the comics in BvS.

yea all the good stuff from B v S about Batman was not in JL

Bvs was garbage because it was 3 movies cut into one.

Slam Robot658 his characterization was bad in both

hell, Batman and Robin had better characterisation than this😂😂😂

I disagree, it helped make the last fight have some real stakes and not just some random fighting in the desert type thing.

Could have just saved the Russian family scene for the last instance when they were escaping and kept the one scene of when the Parademons arrived in their city. But continuing to cut back to them hurt the pacing of the movie. OK, great, the girl found a can of bug spray, ha ha ha.

Yes whedon ruined marvel movies as well.

Guess what, Snyder hired Whedon...

lone wolf iron man flew a family to safety in a bath tub with a whacky fun expression and tone, during a life or death battle in a crumbling city.