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Is the Kia EV6 GT really a GT car. I took it on a 500 mile road trip and the result was surprising. I have driven one before and the fastest Kia ever made is a very capable package. Striking looks and incredible performance.
I wanted to find out what is was like on a longer journey. The car has been designed as a GT car. a 500 mile road trip to Wales was a good test...
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@andrewharrison6865
@andrewharrison6865 Год назад
On my EV6 you have to use the normal USB-A port for Apple Car Play not the USB-C port. It’s the right hand port under the center console. Glad you liked the car, I am really impressed with mine.
@tobybushnell
@tobybushnell Год назад
I think I’d still go for the normal LR version of an EV6. Fast enough and even more range! Mind you, I’d have stopped on the way home due to bladder range.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
😜👍
@fireman-phil7307
@fireman-phil7307 9 месяцев назад
Me too 😄😄😄😄😄
@rogerfinch7651
@rogerfinch7651 Год назад
7 years of more chargers going in before 2030 will make it a non issue. Great vid
@leesmart1971
@leesmart1971 Год назад
Just had a week in Kent and surrounding counties in my Kona 64 kWh. All charge sessions worked (lots of chargers en-route each day to choose from) and the car averaged 4.1 mi/kWh over 900 miles by the time we got home to West Yorkshire. Over the last 4 years, trips like this have become easier and easier. The car hasn't changed, the infrastructure has started to catch up!! Multiple chargers at each location instead of 1 or 2. Most new chargers now 150kW or above instead of 50kW for older units (my car does 77kW max so the extra makes quite a difference). Fantastic to see so much progress.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
👍
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 Год назад
Agree entirely, the infrastructure has gotten so much better in the last year. So much better. Shame the press aren't reporting it but that stuff doesn't make for good headlines, I guess.
@blackpearlboxer
@blackpearlboxer Год назад
I drove from Luxembourg to Portugal with my EV6 GT. 1180 miles in bad weather in 25 hours for 2 drivers. 10 charging stops. Went a little faster on the way back in good weather. 22.5 hours with 12 charging stops. We've been driving the route for 25 years. With the combustion engine, we needed an average of 19 to 20 hours. The GT is a bit thirsty on the highway at 80mph (and +😉). With an RWD fewer stops would be necessary and therefore faster. 3000 miles in 2 weeks.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Wow…epic 👏👏👏
@demus8757
@demus8757 Год назад
Why is it so important of it is a GT car? Why should you want to have a GT car? Does it mean so much that you can drain the battery in top speed? Ridiculous. Focus more on range and not on speed or acceleration. Where is it possible to drive fast nowadays? Every country has speed limits making it impossible. Car manufacturers should finally know that, but since there are some idiots out there who can't stop talking about speed they keep making these idiotic cars.
@ln5747
@ln5747 Год назад
🤡
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Because Kia made a big deal of it being a GT car when I attended the press lunch. So I wanted to put it to the test 👍
@martinj7083
@martinj7083 Год назад
Really interesting to get real world trip data on the GT. I have the regular AWD, and find 321bhp plenty, with 300 plus range in the summer, 250 in winter. The Kia chassis engineers have done a terrific job - the EV6 is surprisingly good to punt hard along a bendy road.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
It sure is 👍
@richardpiper4828
@richardpiper4828 Год назад
I cannot but think that with the EV6 GT and its competitors, the Tesla Model 3 Performance and the BMW i4 M50 that the vast majority of potential owners would be better off with the model one down in the range. Most of us will never use their ultimate acceleration or speed (generally EVs are pretty fast enough for us compared with their ICE equivalent) so would happily trade some performance for range and a lower price). Personally I bemoan that all cars, but particularly EVs, are getting bigger and heavier - and of course more expensive. If you enjoy driving on B roads and minor A roads you want something that is a bit nimbler to thread along narrow roads with sharper bends. Still really looking for a EV hot hatch. Mini most fun but has woeful range and Cupra doesn’t excite me in the same way as a Golf GTi. Perhaps the new Mini Electric will deliver.
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 Год назад
This time of the year, summer, my E Niro driven within legal limits with a non aggressive foot, I get 5-6 miles per kWh. Kia in my opinion are the best electric cars on the road, yes Tesla have their dedicated charging stations but there not everywhere and thing are getting better for the rest of us.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Impressive 👍
@otleybull
@otleybull Год назад
I have the new Niro EV, it is superb. Drove from Huddersfield to Craster in Northumberland, 154 miles and I still had 50% left on the battery. KIA Niros are very efficient electric cars.
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon Год назад
@@otleybull but we dont all want to drive that slow tho
@richardwells1709
@richardwells1709 Год назад
Why can’t all electric chargers take a debit card. Having to set up many accounts for different charges stations is a potentially a big issue
@deansh8506
@deansh8506 Год назад
They are mandated by goverment that every charger has to be able to take contractless payment.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
The first one should have but for some reason mine didn’t work. I did say that later in the video 👍
@tomstringer3951
@tomstringer3951 Год назад
Had my VW ID.3 with the 58kwh battery since new for 15 months. Live in same part of the world as petrol ped. Can’t say I I’ve had any problems. I charge overnight at home, occasionally drive to family in Chester, Exeter and Zurich as well as two holidays in Tuscany and friends in Bavaria.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Nice 👌
@hp-rw2fy
@hp-rw2fy Год назад
I have an EV6 RWD GTLine, love the car. Not bonkers fast like the GT, but fast enough for me. I came back off holiday last week from Wells to Blackpool - 230 miles. Stopped for breakfast a a great farm shop/restaurant with a rapid Instavolt Charger - topped up the battery to 100% - there were 6 chargers and I was the only one charging. Got home without having to charge - 220 miles mostly motorway with cruise set at 75 mph - 20% remaining when we got home. The car lasted longer than me - 2 comfort breaks along the way LOL. Great car, stress free driving with the brilliant cruise control, what a car!!!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Great to hear 👍
@tonyb3629
@tonyb3629 Год назад
The same EV6 RWD GT Line that costs well over £50k or over £800 pm on a PCP deal. Glad you're enjoying it and I'm sure it's saving you tons. Sorry, couldn't help it!
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 Год назад
I have a 15 year old diesel E Class Mercedes, it has 3 times the range of the EV6 at 650 miles, charges from empty to full in 5 minutes and apart from 5 minute pee stops we can travel the full range of the car, taking my driving partner with me and while not in the driving seat we can eat, drink and sleep. Now that is forward route planning and the car can be picked up for 10th of what you paid. As well as this we recently did a 300 mile trip to Fort William ( Bunree ) towing a 7.5 metre caravan and on arrival still had 1/4 tank left, even towing all that weight. You will find that the EV6 is also not able to do that either and can only tow a small poxy 2 berth caravan and even doing that has to stop every 130 miles or so and unhitch the caravan, apply security devices etc. to recharge because the charging infrastructure is not designed for through charging unlike ice vehicles.
@hp-rw2fy
@hp-rw2fy Год назад
cost me £43K and I buy cash - didn't say anything about savings - just love the car LOL @@tonyb3629
@hp-rw2fy
@hp-rw2fy Год назад
emissions? global warming? LOL @@stevezodiac491
@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072
Can't say ive ever put a list of petrol stations on my sat van on any trip ,,,, sounds like Fun ,,,
@quatrecheeze
@quatrecheeze Год назад
To be honest it shouldn't be necessary. Back on my first EV (original Nissan leaf with 80 mile range) every drive was a mini adventure These days I just put in my destination and charge when it tells me to
@GrrMeister
@GrrMeister Год назад
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
It’s never that easy 🤷‍♂️
@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072
@@PetrolPed exactly , but he is a Nissan Leaf driver ,, simple in more than one way lol lol
@quatrecheeze
@quatrecheeze Год назад
@@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072 no need to be rude, and I *was* a Nissan leaf driver. I'd love to know which other EV you'd have chosen in about 2014...
@JeepoUK
@JeepoUK Год назад
Bloody expensive to charge that - aouch, and damned slow to boot. Another reason that Tesla seems the way to go - if only they had more chargers. That said the actual EV6 is very nice!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
👍
@andrewharrison6865
@andrewharrison6865 Год назад
Almost all the time I recharge my EV6 at home which is much cheaper.
@alex-sd
@alex-sd Год назад
The best thing I love about EV's is regen. I have a 2017 Chevy Volt and my wife has a 2023 Hyundai Kona EV. Going down a mountain without using brakes or added engine noise and getting more juice is awesome! It's like a magic carpet ride with no stress about using up the brakes or downshifting the tranny and hearing a screaming gas motor. For this one feature alone, I could not go back to an ICE ever. I hate using brakes and this is attested to the fact that my 2007 Jeep Patriot had 168,000 miles and never had the front brake pads changed but had the rears done once. And in case you were wondering my CV tranny was fine too with the regular fluid change.
@Spaffboy
@Spaffboy Год назад
I like EV's generally, but I HATE the fact at the Osprey charger you needed to download an app to charge your car. What if you don't have a phone on you but have a bank card? It should be easy for people to convert from fuel to EV driving and always having to download apps is not the way to do it. You don't need a Shell, or Esso app to fuel up your car, just a bank card or cash! Rant over.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
No cards needed for mine, turn up, plug in, done. Don't even need to pull out an old fashioned bank card. ;) As others have said, a lot of this can be avoided by an aggregate card such as Electroverse from Octopus. That's a simple process, just gets billed to the account and no app needed at the time, works for roaming in Europe too. There are many ways to present a more favourable picture but many are not interested already so *shrugs*
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
As I said later in the video. My contacts debit card should have worked. Not sure why I didn’t. That’s why I needed to download the app 👍
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
I’m not trying to paint a negative picture at all. I thought this trip went very well. The challenge with press cars is that you don’t get access to the car specific app or charge network discount apps 👎
@Spaffboy
@Spaffboy Год назад
No i think you did a great job as always. I really want an EV, genuinely. I just have two issues, the fact you should need a car specific app or car network is a bit absurd to me, you should just be able to rock up at a charger, contactless pay and plug in, easy. Also the price! I do 20k miles a year and i pay mid £300's for a Seat Leon that does 65mpg and 650 miles to a tank, for a KIA EV GT i checked and it is £932.. and Tesla's are £700, just no where near affordable. Looking forward to when it is though @@PetrolPed
@matthewedwards1089
@matthewedwards1089 Год назад
Expensive and a real faff. Petrol is the future
@doncoombez
@doncoombez Год назад
I have the LR EV6, honestly think it is the tipping point of EV usability - super fast charge and over 300 miles of real world range in the summer. I've had a 30kw Leaf, and an iPace after that, but the EV6 makes long journeys a breeze - I've gone Hampshire to Holland on a single charge, and when I do charge I'm mostly doing it from home or at lunch or a comfort break, meaning I spend less time fuelling my car than when I had a petrol engine (tbh that was a supercharged V8, but I no longer miss it)
@EverythingElectricCar
@EverythingElectricCar Год назад
Great piece on the EV6 GT Pete… And very happy as I get my black EV6 GT in two and a half months!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Nice…enjoy 👍
@Antmorganify
@Antmorganify Год назад
As an actual owner of an EV6 GT in the UK, this was a genuine review that shows the dual personality of the car. Yes its quick, extremely bloody quick in fact, but 90% of your trips you can't and don't need to use the speed, but when you get the chance its fun and exhilarating as a GT should be. Strangely enough, I stopped at that exact same Osprey charger/Pub on a trip to Wales earlier in the year (My car is pictured on ZapMap). Yes you are right public charging prices are expensive, I get there is a cost to building the infrastructure etc, but is this just setting a price precedent going forward. By the way the Kia charge card does offer significant savings, especially on Ionity (Currently 25p per kwh), which is what i now aim for when planning a extended trip. Again you touched upon the planning aspect, and this is exactly what is needed to get the most out of a EV Grand Tourer, despite the issue that everyone bleats on about, being the limited range of 220 odd miles. Anyway, nice to see a review that dosn't just focus on launching and drag racing ability of the car ;)
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@polopowered
@polopowered Год назад
What a coincidence...
@ashdee3363
@ashdee3363 Год назад
Ionity is a joke. How many charging stations are in the UK. You get hassled every time you charge its the complete opposite using a Tesla and they have faster and cheaper charging network.. no brainer
@harlanwestrell
@harlanwestrell Год назад
Thank you for sharing your trip. I have an EV 6 GT in Oregon, USA
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Very cool!
@bumblebee9288
@bumblebee9288 Год назад
£45 just to get to 200 miles range is awful you are paying 60 k for the car and £100 for realistic range of 400 miles is very very poor Not to mention who has 1 hour to spend filling up??? We all know how unenvironmentally friendly the manufacture of EV s is as well. I think leave petrol alone
@techforoldcodgerslikeme1911
Rapid charging is the exception for most ev drivers. That charge at home would cost just £8 on overnight cheap rate!
@Kevin-dp1vy
@Kevin-dp1vy Год назад
What about all of the petrol car drivers who cannot charge at home? I cannot charge at home and all of the public chargers in our town cost 69 pence per kWh. If I had an EV I would have no choice but to pay that price to charge it. Until the cost of public charging comes down considerably an EV will not be viable for me.
@marksawyer9285
@marksawyer9285 7 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you. Im considering the GT but was a little concerned with the distance the GT would cover before needing a charge. Your video has shown i dont need to worry about that .
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 6 месяцев назад
Glad I could help
@johndoyle4723
@johndoyle4723 Год назад
I have the AWD version, only used sport mode a few times , just to show what it can do when I have friends in the car. I think for most people the RWD version on 19 inch wheels will be more than fast enough and better economy, the AWD version normally only engages the front wheels when pulling out from a junction or rapid acceleration.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
I agree 👍
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 Год назад
If it’s the case that all wheel drive only works when required, which is great. Why doesn’t it do similar mileage to the more basic model when driven normally, or does it? I was considering the all wheel drive version for snow and ice conditions.
@johndoyle4723
@johndoyle4723 Год назад
@@wobby1516 The AWD has 20 inch tyres and weighs more, both these factors reduce range, but not by very much.
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 Год назад
​@@wobby1516as Johnny says: weight. That extra motor is a heavy chunk of metal to be hauling about - probably the weight of a small child. It all adds up. Best stick with RWD.
@BAC_Mono
@BAC_Mono Год назад
However the different interior and the (in my experience) better handling of the GT more than makes up for the lower range of you don’t actually need it, and the price difference is quite small. I didn’t want a sunroof or electric seats (my wife rarely drives my car) I opted for a GT for those reasons and don’t regret it, but it’s a personal thing.
@Steve_Hallett
@Steve_Hallett Год назад
Maybe it will change, but living your life around the cars charging needs is something i can't currently get my head around. Your fueling up seemed like it was dictated the cars need for feeding. Good video though, how you got on in the real world👍
@robertpawley5715
@robertpawley5715 Год назад
Was imagining that if the transition was reversed from silent EV cars to noisy ICE cars everyone would be complaining about how bad this was. 😂
@OverlandExpedition
@OverlandExpedition Год назад
What an ordeal, was getting stressed out watching it. I am looking to fill my car up when it hits about 150-200 miles !!
@CRIPVW
@CRIPVW Год назад
You need to use the USB A / classic port. USB-C only charges no data connection sadly Also you can get the battery history reset via KDS Kia’s diag system only at dealerships and with a full battery Finally if you would have set that charger as a tour point then the battery would have pre heated so it may have charged faster
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Thanks for this 👍
@paulgreen7906
@paulgreen7906 Год назад
To all the wealthy people here commenting...quick reality check...average UK salary £33k before tax...how would any average bod afford one of these and it is only a KIA! EVs as they stand are a niche product to the top 20% of earners. Truly gobsmacked it cost over £40 to fill up with electricity...dearer than petrol! Oh n lets not forget all those coffees and pub lunches incurred through the year waiting for it to charge...all adds up. Once pay per mile comes in EVs will not be that impressive.
@kevatnorthfield
@kevatnorthfield 7 месяцев назад
Kia are probably on the same level as a mercedes. Iv now had both makes. 21 mercedes and now a 23 Kia.
@MrTinkx
@MrTinkx Год назад
Also have a Kia EV6 GT Line S. Charged fully at home and drove 220 miles from Leicestershire to Devon.Range at destination was 82 miles. Slow charge overnight to full for £16 at the hotel and the home 2 days later. No range anxiety for me. EV6 are excellent cars.
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 Год назад
£50k for a kia 😂😂😂😮 are you completely bonkers
@leestockton9367
@leestockton9367 Год назад
​@@pauldavies7251my thoughts exactly!
@GlassActivist
@GlassActivist 4 месяца назад
​@@pauldavies7251 you get less car in a BMW or Mercedes. What is your real reason for denigrating the Korean brand?
@IanMcc1000
@IanMcc1000 3 месяца назад
@@pauldavies7251 It performs nearly like a Taycan and costs less than what a Taycans devaulation is..
@gepal7914
@gepal7914 Год назад
I live in a small town and near good public transport. So, my only use for a car is long trips. The hassles of range anxiety, looking for charging stations, waiting for charging, etc. makes an EV totally ridiculous for me. As long as I can, I will stick with petrol.
@Nick-vp7lp
@Nick-vp7lp Год назад
I was originally wanting a GT, but once i realised the max summer range would be circa 220, i decided against it. Im getting around 250 from my GV60 sport plus, happy compromise. Not looking forward to another winter of ev range anxiety though lol They do not like cold windy days 😮
@Mr.BednaR
@Mr.BednaR 9 месяцев назад
GV60 is a luxury step up from EV6 and Ioniq 5
@danielwarren2355
@danielwarren2355 Год назад
My friends got one of these, I was shocked that a Kia could be that good, and the performance 😎
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
They really are 👍
@tiguanman1170
@tiguanman1170 Год назад
£50k minimum for one of those so that's a lot of diesel for years to come. 250 mile range is still very poor for that cost of vehicle.
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 Год назад
570 bhp diesel that does 0-62 in 3.5 seconds?? hmm, think you migh have a bit of trouble finding that "alternative"......
@adrianwhitehead1950
@adrianwhitehead1950 Год назад
@@maxtorque2277that power is irrelevant in the real world. It might be fun on a track but on uk roads 250hp in a 3 series is irrelevant. I’d rather have 0-60 in around 6s and a 500 mile range coupled to a 5min “recharge” time.
@maxthefacts
@maxthefacts Год назад
Thank you as always for your real world review. Your enthusiasm shines through. Long may you continue to contribute as you do to motoring journalism.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Thanks 🙏🏻
@kevinpower5880
@kevinpower5880 Год назад
My concern is that in my car I wouldn't even question whether that journey was possible. The other issues are 1. The car is expensive to buy and 2. public charging looks much more expensive than filling up with petrol even considering my car only does mid 30s on a long run.
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
Depends if you're filling fuel up at Motorway Service prices, which this changing is similar to doing. Yes, the car is expensive, but try and find a new petrol/diesel car with 570bhp for less money !? 🤔
@kevinpower5880
@kevinpower5880 Год назад
@SDK2006b true but I would not fill up on a motorway except in an emergency. I find in the UK 250bhp is about as much as is needed (depending on weight and BEVs are really heavy).
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
@@kevinpower5880 - just the same as I would not charge on a public charger at these prices except in an emergency.
@Kevin-dp1vy
@Kevin-dp1vy Год назад
@@SDK2006b I cannot charge at home and all of the public chargers in our town cost 69 pence per kWh. If I had an EV I would have no choice but to pay that price to charge it. Until the cost of public charging comes down considerably an EV will not be viable for me.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
For the majority of your running you would be charging at home on perhaps less than 10p per kWh 👍
@RKSidd
@RKSidd 9 месяцев назад
£85 full tank on my Audi A6 40Tdi...gave me 700 miles on my trip from Birmingham to Bavaria.
@julesverne2962
@julesverne2962 Год назад
I drive a Seat Leon with 150ps which in the real world is probably just about quick enough, £42.79 will give me a range of 450 miles plus, so not really convinced with EV's yet
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Yes but the difference with an EV is that this is the extreme pricing for the 20% of time that road trips require it. Osprey are also among the most expensive. So for 80%+ of the mileage, it's about 2 to 4p per mile if charged at home. A 500 mile round trip like the one here would be 200+ miles at the cheap rate and the rest at the higher rate so making simple comparisons doesn't work. Petrol pricing though is always at roughly the same high price. For another comparison, we recently popped down to Switzerland. 1,865 miles, charging cost was £156. That included hotel and public charging. 8 p per mile, still far cheaper than my diesel or petrol cars. However... It's also pointless making *this* comparison because of the cost of the car, then again that is largely funded by solar FIT so more complexity to the equation!
@DigitalMan6627
@DigitalMan6627 Год назад
Me too 1.4 TSI DSG,can’t see me changing until it falls apart
@Dolph681
@Dolph681 Год назад
What do you do for people like me who live in a flat and home charging is not possible? Thank you but I'll stick to my diesel estate with up to 800 miles of range.@@djtaylorutube
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
I've done 750 miles in my EV this week for £35 - 460bhp Polestar 2
@DigitalMan6627
@DigitalMan6627 Год назад
@@SDK2006b but what puts me off is the inevitable greed of the govt hiking up both electricity charging & some new tax for EV’s once there are enough on the road,a recent convo with a regional electricity network provider told me it would take 50 years for the grid to be viable (& strong enough) right now
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 Год назад
Great to see the charging side of the journey went smoothly. My only concern is the rate of cars sold is going up but the charging stations aren’t keeping up. On a good note, there’s going to be a lot of cafes being built around the charging stations and shops etc. Maybe the EV will enhance the pleasure side of driving again, like slowing down the journey instead of just racing around. As always a great video PP.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Totally agree
@tonyrest6714
@tonyrest6714 Год назад
£42... ! A full tank in my hybrid is £49 that gives a range of 545 miles . Having to plan the evening before a trip as well 🤔. The vast majority of journeys i do are hadhoc !
@scottcameron8936
@scottcameron8936 Год назад
Cheaper subscriptions are available and you can charge at home for significantly less.
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 Год назад
How long does it take your hybrid to get to 60? The GT can do it in 3.5 seconds!! That kind of performance would require a supercar to match and one of those does not do 545 miles on £49........
@tonyrest6714
@tonyrest6714 Год назад
@maxtorque2277 best you can come up with 0-60mph ? Land's end to John o'clock grouts EV v's Hybrid only using a bank card for fuel/charging ( no apps or subscriptions) . Ps my local Ev point is currently 65p@ kw just gone up 1pthis week .
@bispal
@bispal Год назад
​@maxtorque2277 nothing does 545 miles on £49 because at £7 gallon that's 78mpg which unless you drove on the motorway at 55mph for 10 hours overnight in a gen 1 Honda Insight would be almost impossible as a UK average. And if you did 0-60 in under 4 seconds in an EV at every opportunity I doubt you would get more than 100 miles. And as a supercar owner I have got to Bristol from Reading in my McLaren, 80 miles at 40mpg for £14. No 0-60 timed runs included.....
@tonyrest6714
@tonyrest6714 Год назад
@bispal do you charge a EV at 0% ? Because I don't fill up from zero miles 🤣
@stevenbarrett7648
@stevenbarrett7648 Год назад
Bit shocked at the low range especially as its supposed to be a Great Tourer but glad you liked it, sticking with our Tesla MYLR though !
@bordersw1239
@bordersw1239 Год назад
What’s the average mpg of an ice with sub 3.5 secs 0-60 and what size is their fuel tank? Genuine question!
@warnerswheelingabout4879
@warnerswheelingabout4879 Год назад
In my BMW d I’d get there and back with 150 miles to spare, no wasting time charging, most of all no need ro ‘plan’ the mission’, and it would be cheaper than using public rapid chargers. Nice car though looks fun to drive.
@paulbuckingham15
@paulbuckingham15 Год назад
That time is more than made up by the times you charge at home rather than go out and fill up. Planning becomes second nature, like muscle memory.
@warnerswheelingabout4879
@warnerswheelingabout4879 Год назад
@@paulbuckingham15 I can’t accommodate a home charger, so that doesn’t help in my case, also the planning isn’t muscle memory. It goes wrong, sometimes, I know I had an EV for 19 months, chargers aren’t 100% reliable unfortunately. If you have home charging then it’s definitely more feasible, but this EV initiative isn’t a one size fits all solution.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Год назад
But remember, the petrol or diesel to do that in 10+ years time, may no longer be there. Production and sales volumes of petrol and diesel will reduce in the next few years. Shell have said they plan to cut production by 40% on the lead up to 2030.....
@ginggur17
@ginggur17 Год назад
Hello pal, playing catch up again, harvest assistance was bonkers. 👍👍🇬🇧
@grantblofield8218
@grantblofield8218 Год назад
Was thinking about buying one but the range put me off!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
👍
@bertie1989
@bertie1989 Год назад
£42 for about 150 miles of range? That's £15 in petrol and you don't need to waste an hour waiting for it to charge
@thewhitepanda60
@thewhitepanda60 2 месяца назад
15 Pound in Petrol? What are you comparing this car to? A Prius?
@cliftonmcintosh6193
@cliftonmcintosh6193 Год назад
Nice one pp but I’m still not convinced that is the way to go we will see 😊
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Fair enough!
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Год назад
Will you still be convinced petrol and diesel is the way to go, once Shell begin cutting production of petrol and diesel as they stated they plan to do in their last business report. They said they will cut production by 40% on the lead up to 2030..... As for the other oil giants - who knows?
@auroramarcu
@auroramarcu Год назад
You had to wait 1 hour at the services, spent £42 on charging and only got 222 miles of range…!!!..and that is pretty good!? We must be operating on different value systems, cause I would call that disappointing..😮 Anyhow, appreciate your reviews and great content and also happy that you are showing the true face o LC EVs. Keep up the good content.
@grahamf695
@grahamf695 Год назад
Electroverse supports many charging service providers including Osprey with a single card. If you are an Octopus customer, they give you a slightly discounted rate.
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
Yep, pretty much half’s the cost of using these chargers too.
@yvesvandenbroek6055
@yvesvandenbroek6055 Год назад
74 kw charging power at 33% charge, 29minutes to 80% … that is probably a weak 400v chargers, because that is really really bad. Maybe a good excuse to take lunch, but if you do a trip of 650 miles like I did recently, that would be painful slow. (Took 11hours and 2 charge stops that coincided with breakfast and lunch … iX 50)
@chrisbell5248
@chrisbell5248 Год назад
EV6 charging speed on a 50 kWh charger is unlikely to slow down till you reach 90% SOC, I hope you managed to see it charging on a 350 kWh rapid charger
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Didn’t get the chance this time 😢
@austinedwards1918
@austinedwards1918 Год назад
Thank you Ped for a wonderful review. Now i have made my mind up on what car to put on my shortlist when i will eventually change my ICE car
@chrisking5495
@chrisking5495 Год назад
Really enjoy your channel and this was another great review. Heading for my mid sixties and unfortunately my disposable income will never stretch to an EV but I really enjoy following the transition to electric vehicles. I ride a motorcycle most of the time and the thought of a future when you are not being poisoned by the sometimes horrendous toxic muck coming out of tail pipes is something to really look forward to. 🙂
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Thanks 🙏🏻
@carlsherman2094
@carlsherman2094 Год назад
Re the cable for Apple car play you need to plug into the USB A port not the USB C
@johnbrown3951
@johnbrown3951 Год назад
Another interesting film. We got 160 miles from 211 range in the dead of winter but in the good weather in June we drove for 200 miles with 50 miles of range left from a 223 mile range when we left home. What a difference. If there was a rapid charger near the rally I am going to watch 150 miles up North I would take the Jag but I guess it's the Honda for me tomorrow. I hope my mechanic in the village here does well in his Hyundai Rally Car.
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Год назад
While I've done a 430 mile day in my 28kWh Ioniq and it's a non-event. Was a wet and cold February day and I averaged 4.6mi/kWh. Stopped for around 15min for each charge which gets me from sub-20% to 80% (and is just about long enough to have a piss and grab a coffee) Big batteries weigh a lot and their benefit seems to be a diminishing return - smaller packs that are faster charging are probably a better idea. 🤔
@chrisp3330
@chrisp3330 Год назад
Hi Ped, I haven’t commented for a while but still watch every video. I posted this comment on another channel not long back and, seeing your costs charging ‘on the road’, would like to know if you agree? (I swapped an ETron, after 3 years, for a Niro EV4) ‘I’m on my second EV and they are great if they fit your use case. I own a Ltd company so an EV leased with the cost offset against corporation tax and virtually no BIK to pay makes perfect sense. I have a house with a private driveway, home charger and a night time Tarrif to charge - pence per mile fuel cost is around 2.5 pence. My daily mileage is easily within the range of the car so 99% of my miles are at night rate (currently 9.5p/kWh). If you are a private buyer, relying on public charging then forget it - the infrastructure simply isn’t there for the average person, the price of the vehicles is too high and the price of electric at the rapid chargers is more expensive than petrol, if they are working and if they are free without waiting 45 mins for someone else to finish charging.’
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Thanks for watching and I totally agree. EV is a no brainier for you at the moment 👍
@slineboy
@slineboy Год назад
Hi ped Great video as usual. I am still not sold on electric cars. It seams to me you have to be a mathematician to calculate stops and miles to next charge. I know it may be cheaper than fuel. I was basing your trip on my recent week in the Lake District I filled up before I left and filled up after two days of motoring around the lake s and topped up on the return trip home. Did not have to worry about waiting or queueing for charging points. Due to change my 1.5 litre Vw t roc next year. But not ready to go to electric ⚡️ yet as good deals on I d3s at the moment. Just feel strongly about the electric debate.
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
No math required - you know the range of the car and learn where the best chargers are. If you were driving to the Lake District in this Kia EV GT then you would stop at Ionity on route and charge at 25p kWh, 10-80% in about 20 minutes
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
It’s just a new way of think about stuff 👍
@15bit62
@15bit62 Год назад
I'd say some math required, because you can go to a given charger and pay very different amounts of money for the same charge depending on which App/RFID you use. This planning for chargers and signing up to different networks is the real problem. They really need to sort out the "connected-ness" of the various charging networks so that they all show up in an open fashion in either the car Nav or on a phone app, with correct status and preferably pricing too. And then you should be able to pay with a card and pay the same rate as someone with an RFID. Whilst it requires people to sign up to different service providers, get RFIDs etc. the EV experience will remain frustrating to most people. This is why we got a Tesla - the integration makes the whole experience insanely easy.
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon Год назад
20 year roi lets face it
@15bit62
@15bit62 Год назад
@@PazLeBon Depends strongly where you live, and the current tax etc benefits. Here in Norway the 5 year ownership cost on my Model 3 is about the same as a Toyota Corolla, and the CO2 equivalence time is about 30-40k km, which is 2.5 years of driving for me.
@wamgoc
@wamgoc Год назад
Sorry, I couldn’t get used to all the planning needed to run an EV.
@steveprescesky4337
@steveprescesky4337 Год назад
The wired Apple Carplay is USB-A only, not the USB-C port which is for charging only.
@shaunie1959
@shaunie1959 Год назад
Correct and you can use any USB-A cable not just Kia ones
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Weird. I tried one of those too 🤔
@SteveBrill
@SteveBrill Год назад
Excellent real world review again. Nice one . 👍
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Thanks 👍
@masonandmotors
@masonandmotors Год назад
Like you’ve said you need to do some planning before you go but I don’t want to do that. I want the infrastructure to be so good that I know I’ll be able to charge whenever I need, just like getting fuel. Also those chargers never seem to be under cover. Sod that when it’s chucking it down 😂
@alanbooth7280
@alanbooth7280 Год назад
Great video thank you. I am sure that you would agree that a normal road trip review of a new car (ICE) would only require about 1 min of mpg/fuel and the remaining 24 mins of car dynamics, emotion, sound, handling, looks etc etc. the fact that any electric car review is mostly about route planning, kWh range, downloading apps, sitting around for 30 mins, coffee reviews, charging cost, infrastructure issues etc etc and very little about the actual car dynamics 🤷‍♀️. I am sticking with ICE for as long as possible.
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 Год назад
What do you drive? I suspect this GT6 is not just faster but probably handles better that your car? did you miss the 0-62 in 3.5 sec & 570 bhp part. The fact this car can return an energy consumption equivalent to doing over 150 mpg is what makes EVs amazing! Name a sub 4 second petrol super car that can even average 30mpg?
@alanbooth7280
@alanbooth7280 Год назад
@@maxtorque2277 I drive a Porsche 718 Cayman S and easily get over 40mpg on a motorway run, handles better than most cars on the road and is a 4 sec 0-60 car 😎.
@johnminshall242
@johnminshall242 Год назад
I’d be happy with a ‘normal’ LR version that’d do 4m/kW / 300 miles plus. That’d be powerful enough for me, though to be fair that GT does look good! Kia have really cracked it with EV6.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Powerful enough indeed 👍
@quatrecheeze
@quatrecheeze Год назад
The standard RWD version is about that
@jonjones-mg8lt
@jonjones-mg8lt 2 месяца назад
I have one and the Range is Insane
@simoningate2056
@simoningate2056 Год назад
Domestic KWh is around 20p - so 60 or 70 is a bit rich. How much did your charging cost you vs what petrol in your 718 would have been? Of course the electric car will need some tyres soon (due to the shredding at full torque) and you had to pay for lunch and breakfast on top of that. Do electric cars make you fatter?
@quatrecheeze
@quatrecheeze Год назад
Domestic charging is about 7.5p on an EV tariff - businesses didn't benefit from the price cap though
@solentbum
@solentbum Год назад
@@quatrecheeze Plus you pay 20% VAT for roadside chargers. Insta Volt got that wrong for a couple of years and had to put their prices up!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Good points 👍
@malgf4145
@malgf4145 10 месяцев назад
I'm feeling smug, I charge my Volvo C40 overnight with OctopusGo at a rate of 8.7p/kwh. Works out at less than 3p/mile running cost. I'm not so smug now my insurance is over £900 a year with over 15 years NCB and a retail price of over £50K for the car.
@tomashley5869
@tomashley5869 Год назад
That wowed me hearing you were 4,5 h into the trip without having stopped ! Really quite unexpected ! Brilliant video and car, Pete! Cheers, Tom
@mikedoverskog
@mikedoverskog Месяц назад
UK charging costs is a joke. Just got back from a holiday in Sweden where superchargers cost less than half of what they cost in the UK. Old rip-off Britain going strong still.
@adriandickinson204
@adriandickinson204 Год назад
Another solid video as always! I'm missing something here with this whole EV thing though. I can't charge at home, or at least apparently I could if I was prepared to pay £11k to have a fast charger & suitable supply installed, which I'm not. I can't charge at work (60 mile round trip & I'm out 15 hours a day, so no time to sit & charge a car somewhere). Also, this is a £57k car which is more expensive to "fuel" for me having to use fast charger networks than an ICE car at these charge point station costs, & I could buy an equivalent ICE car for £15k-£20k less, invest that money &/or use it to buy a huge amount of fuel for my new ICE car. Someone's being hoodwinked somewhere, even the free road tax is quite rightly ending. I agree for some an EV is fine & a welcome PART of a future transport solution, but it@s definitely not THE solution.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Presuming you have electricity to your house, you can use that. Nothing more is needed as a minimum. Granted you may at times prefer a faster charge rate but as an alternate to paying £11k, there it is.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
You don’t need a fast charger at home. A 7kW AC charger is about £1000 all in to have installed 👍
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 Год назад
How many miles do you drive a day repetitively? A standard 3 pin plug and extension lead charges at roughly 12 miles per hour, so even with 6 hours of cheap rate ( 1am till 7am) you could add 72 miles each and every night for pennys (decent extension lead might cost £50)
@pete1w
@pete1w Месяц назад
25 minute video of a car review. 5 minutes talking about the car, 20 minutes talking about the hassle of charging the thing. Its a no from me......
@gordonf1997
@gordonf1997 Год назад
Did a 1,700 mile road trip in my VW ID5 GTX last week, charging 2 or 3 times a day using Tesla superchargers, never had to queue or stress over charging. Total cost was £115.26.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Nice 👌
@vacoasrebel6729
@vacoasrebel6729 Год назад
No mention of time wasted whilst charging!
@gordonf1997
@gordonf1997 Год назад
@vacoasrebel6729 Sure some time was wasted but a lot of times charging stops were also meals, toilet breaks, stretch the legs etc. Any time that was wasted was more than made up for with the smug feeling you get when beating ICE cars away from the traffic lights 😀.
@tug1345
@tug1345 6 месяцев назад
This car is mis sold being badged GT, in a proper GT car you should be able to drive to the south of France or Spain, Italy even , quickly and efficiently without wearing you out, it should be comfortable, in this car utilising public charging doing the quick 20% - 80% charge , on a journey to Italy and back you'd have to stop about 20 times, so 20 hours sat around at charging points, not a good GT car
@Dolph681
@Dolph681 Год назад
220 mile on a 100% charge, what a joke. My diesel estate when brimmed(75l.), the first fuel bar is off after driving 200miles and I've 8 or 9 bars. 42 pounds for 50kwh, that's almost 28 litres of diesel, which is 300 miles for me. EV's have a long way to go. Yes is powerful, but you can't use the bhp because the battery will be depleted to fast. Also following the hwy code and the law you can't and shouldn't drive fast. Who need's 577bhp for motorway and A/B roads driving, completely unnecessary. I'm not planning where to fuel from the previous day, nor I've range anxiety. Petrol Ped, love your videos, keep up the good work. I've no criticism towards you, but to the EV hype that everyone seems to fall for. Also you never mention the price of the Kia.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
The reason that simple comparisons don't work is that the EV charge price there was at one of the most expensive, without a subscription and is only used on the few occasions that trips are beyond home charge range. Most EVs will home charge which means as low as 2p per mile. Mine is 4p per mile. No diesel will get anywhere remotely close to that and the forecourt price is the diesel drivers always price, there no off peak diesel. If only home charging, 10,000 can cost under £300. Also, of any journey, the first 200+ miles will be cheap. My longest journey so far is 1,865 miles, using hotel and public charging, that cost £156. That's 8p per mile. Had I taken our diesel @ 50mpg, that would have been around £230. Had I taken either of our petrol cars @ 28 mpg on super unleaded, that would have been £448. You can't just take the £42 here in the video and multiply it up, it just doesn't work like that with an EV. :) No range anxiety for me either.
@Dolph681
@Dolph681 Год назад
@@djtaylorutube thanks for the detailed information. When I compare the vehicle prices I don't see any advantage of the EV cheap charging. Well I can't afford one, compared to petrol and diesel which I can.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
@@Dolph681 You're welcome, thank you for appreciating the alternate illustration of cost. Cost is an important factor of course and drip feeding manageable amounts is always easier. My costs were only taking into account the per mile cost and I'm under no illusion that there's a monthly cost but this will probably be our last car purchase (hopefully!) and so was a bit of a treat. With regards to battery deterioration, I'm expecting that to be in line with my reduced desire to drive anyway. The children can do the trips with the grandkids :) If I were doing a calculation purely on economics, I would continue to run our old Volvo, converted to LPG long ago but sometimes we buy things based on other factors and for us, buying into modern safety features was important too. Everyone should just run what works for themselves though.
@philclark7346
@philclark7346 Год назад
I am giving my EV back in January after 3 years and changing for a Kia Sportage plug in hybrid so daily commute I will use EV and weekends start enjoying again. The cost to charge away from home is just a joke also the arguments I have encountered at charging stations it's just not worth it. There should be a app which you can say what time you arrived at the charger and you can start the queue or see if others are waiting. In Thailand you can actually prebook chargers which I personally think is an excellent idea. The sad thing is I have only just seen the new e3008 and to be truthful it looks unbelievable and the range looks very impressive so I may eventually change back in the future.
@chrisbarley1401
@chrisbarley1401 Год назад
I like “Petrol Ped” EV reviews but lets be honest. Huge straight line speed is not legally useful. This car weighs over 2 tonnes. The interim stop cost more than petrol. It has a limited range. So what we have is “a single man drives not very far in a hugely heavy car, which is very large and manages not great economy whilst using electricity which (in the UK) has not been generated in a very clean manner”. It’s not really very startling is it? And yet that is “green” vs our Macan Turbo which is lighter, more enjoyable to drive etc. When will manufacturers stop creating these stupidly quick, unemotional vehicles and instead concentrate on efficiency and range. We had an i3 for 5 years which did much better on m/KWh. This is not an improving technology at the moment.
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
-> Over 55% of UK electricity is carbon free, with 46% of that renewables and this increasing every year. -> As Pete mentioned in the video - these public chargers can be cheaper. Costs are 50% less if you do some research. -> Unless you’re driving on a track, weight has very little impact on day-to-day driving.
@chrisbarley1401
@chrisbarley1401 Год назад
As Harry Metcalfe has pointed out, the UK energy is very dependent on where in the country you are, so an average like that doesn’t really hold water. I totally disagree on the weight, heavy cars are dynamically inferior on roads as well as tracks. Heavy vehicles cannot possibly make sense from an energy usage perspective. And from a purely safety point of view, I wouldn’t want a vehicle weighing over 2 tonnes hitting my son in his little Suzuki Swift…..regardless of the Swifts safety features, this will only end one way. I am not an EV denial person having owned one for 5 years but anyone who thinks that stupidly fast, huge and not particularly efficient EV’s are the way forward don’t really see the realities of where we are for the future. A better energy, lighter weight, lower cost alternative is the only way forward.
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
@@chrisbarley1401 - sure, the renewable average varies a little between Network Operators but it’s only going one way - up ⬆️ The majority of drivers couldn’t careless what their car weighs. Improvements in this area will come, but also worth pointing out a Tesla Model 3 weighs less than a BMW 3 Series. EV’s are also very hard to crash or hit objects as they have various radars and driving monitors. This can be annoying at times as they are very sensitive but worthy to save incidents. I’ve witnessed this first hand - on the school run a child ran out across the front of my car without looking and the car applied the brakes before I could. Had I been in car without this system they would have been very hurt at best. Some downsides of this system. - whenever I’m reverse parking and someone is walking anywhere behind the car, but outside of hit range, the car will apply the brakes very severely, which if you’re not expecting it can be a nasty shock.
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 10 месяцев назад
That's just a short hop down the road. I did almost 6,000 kms (over 3,500 miles) in an inferior EV, with an inferior charging infastructure, so the trip was a relative failure, except that the car was super comfortable and it seems much cheaper - would have to work out the exchange rate and living standards to be certain. Most chargers were 48c per kW, and that's about 25 pence? No idea how our living standards differ.
@charlesholder8009
@charlesholder8009 Год назад
I will never get used to this planning a route around chargers. At 74, being forced to buy an EV won't be a problem for me along with heat pumps. However, with 15-minute cities and ULEZ cropping up all over the country no one will be able to travel anyway.
@GrrMeister
@GrrMeister Год назад
*50 Minutes to charge from 30 to 100% and £42.79 !*
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 Год назад
It will be well in to 2050 before anyone is forced to buy an EV, by then nobody would want anything else.
@charlesholder8009
@charlesholder8009 Год назад
@@GrrMeister Yes. If it is a planned stop for a meal, OK, but you must calculate the cost of meals for four (two adults and two eat everything children) on a road trip each time and £42.79 won't even be the start of the costs. A good old ten minutes petrol stop is going to be a lot cheaper and a shorter journey. (Took two children to a park today. Four small servings of chips and two fruit shoots £15) ... (Other drinks are available at the park )🤕
@charlesholder8009
@charlesholder8009 Год назад
@@mikebreen2890 Probably correct. A shame they won't know any better.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Год назад
@@charlesholder8009 Why do you have to calculate for the cost of a meal? Do you factor that in for ICE cars that stop at service stations? And why do you have to spend more on food because you're in an EV as opposed to in an ICE car? This is all contrived nonsense.
@simonrushton4639
@simonrushton4639 Год назад
Excellent video yet again.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@accidentalactor9306
@accidentalactor9306 Год назад
Ok, having seen a recent survey of fastest depreciating cars and with all the top 10 being EV's it's hardly surprising many motorists are avoiding them or switching back to ice. I see all these detailed running cost videos in real life driving conditions never take the additional depreciation into actual total running cost of ownership.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Not selling mine thus depreciation is a non factor as far as I'm concerned.
@gordonmackenzie4512
@gordonmackenzie4512 Год назад
Most petrol and diesel cars lose 30% of their value in the first year, then continue to depreciate slowly.
@Lyndalewinder
@Lyndalewinder Год назад
So now is the time to buy a second hand EV - they're great fun!
@accidentalactor9306
@accidentalactor9306 Год назад
@@Lyndalewinder They certainly make a better purchase prospect second hand.
@paulbuckingham15
@paulbuckingham15 Год назад
Moving to their 'proper' place on the deprecation v age curve after the unusual situation last year when used could cost more than new. This was more profound in EVs than in ICE.
@stuw4055
@stuw4055 Год назад
“Volt & Bolt” - where did you get that one? Love it! I’ll be using it now because “Splash & Dash” just isn’t true for an EV driver.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
One of my subscribers told me about it. I loved it too 👍
@andysmith985
@andysmith985 Год назад
Great video, very informative as usual. For me it's the costs involved with the extra stops. We wouldn't normally stop at cafes and have "lunch and a coffee". Drove from Huddersfield to Milngavie Near Glasgow recently, one stop for the loo and that was it. Half a tank of diesel. This ev thing need looking at further
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Also achieved in certain EV's. Same experience. I wouldn't have to stop for anything other than the loo either.
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing Год назад
Just pack sandwiches and a flask if you don't want to buy owt. Last time I was at a super busy services, no one in petrol or diesel car's had any qualms about stopping and eating KFC and burger king for 40 mins. Could have easily fitted in a EV charging session too. Ped didn't even showcase this car's charging - can top up to 80% in 18 mins. He was saying 75kw is quick - that's mines max charge rate. That Kia can do 230kw.
@michaelstanley3961
@michaelstanley3961 11 месяцев назад
The grid can't handle this many cars, and I'm not sure it ever will. Can't beat EV PTSD and I know it's about the environment but how much to charge!!!!! How can you plan anything when half don't work, most are full and most take so long to charge.. wow... I love the concept but EV for town Diesel for road trip 🎉
@sagalout
@sagalout Год назад
Had one of these on order but cancelled it due to delays. Ended up buying a Model Y Long Range and overall happy it panned out that way. A real 300 mile range and only 40p per unit charging on the rare occasions I need to supercharge (plus the better network). I think the EV6 is a better looking car, but Tesla have it nailed in terms of practicality - it’s the only EV you don’t need to really plan journeys in advance
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Same. The Kia dealer wanted us to sit down after the test drive and discuss an order. I was close but asked what the lead time was. Maybe 12 to 18 months he couldn't tell. I said, no rush on us placing an order then since a few days to think about it won't make much difference. Every day for the next week he phoned. I know he was just doing good job but seriously, what's the point? You're so right about not giving a f'k in a Tesla though. Apparently an EV is only suitable for going to local shops. We did that, except the local shop we need to visit was in Switzerland. Fabulous trip. :)
@GrrMeister
@GrrMeister Год назад
*Yea right - but they look like a jelly mould !*
@sagalout
@sagalout Год назад
@@GrrMeister Yeah, true, but I can’t see it when I’m in it 😅
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
@@GrrMeister Yep, I do like the EV6 styling but at the end of the day, I sit inside and look out and just wanted a vehicle that worked and was wife friendly with regard to charging. I didn't buy based on looks alone. :)
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
I have a Model Y Performance press car coming in a few weeks time 👍
@davidwilson4468
@davidwilson4468 Год назад
As nice as this car is on paper my local dealer has quoted me a delivery time of December 2024.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
😢
@dirkvanassche7102
@dirkvanassche7102 Год назад
Being the lucky owner of one of these for 2 months now I can only confirm your findings. Great car and taking longer drives is absolutely no problem. Luckily here in Belgium we have a decent network of Fastned stations, where I generally charge at 220-240 kW speeds. It was a big plunge to go for an EV since it takes a different mindset but it really is not so bad as in the general public's perception. Great review !
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Fastned are great 👍 Glad you are enjoying the car 😜
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 Год назад
Now try pulling a 7.5 metre caravan with it ?
@dirkvanassche7102
@dirkvanassche7102 Год назад
no thanks , not intrested in caravans@@stevezodiac491
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
@@stevezodiac491 - Just hire a caravan/accommodation already at your destination, and save the hassle and additional cost. Towing a 'house' around the country is wasteful
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 Год назад
​​​@@SDK2006b'accommodation' costs 3 times as much as caravan site fees, plus they are not in beautiful locations like many caravan sites are. The person who is wasting is you, your money. Wait till you try to replace it and trade it back in, it will have decreased in value so much , like all EV's that it would have been cheaper to throw your wallet on the fire. How's your dendrite formation so far on your traction battery through age and use cycles that ALL lithium ion batteries incur. My 15 year old Mercedes has none and never will. I was an early EV adopter as well and after 7 years 5 months and 35 k miles, my EV has lost 1/3 rd of it's battery capacity and range - never again ! This is why people will not buy second hand EV's, the public is now educated largely to this fatal flaw, steer clear and lose the initial owner thousands of pounds against if they were trading in an ice car.
@robertovers1863
@robertovers1863 Год назад
everything i hate about EVs in one video " it says 212 miles but if i drive in eco it might get up to 213 " only 29% left and in 2 hours and 13 minutes i should be upto 32 % .....AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH
@richardgrant5009
@richardgrant5009 Год назад
Sorry Ped.I couldn't handle all that anxiety. I know where I am with £90 of diesel.👍
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles Год назад
Takes a week or so to make the change from petrol to EV and then 2 long journeys to get used to that. Plus…he’s making videos for RU-vid so a bit more excitement!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
I agree but honestly don’t try to make it exciting. Just say it how it is 👍
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 Год назад
Anxiety? The fella got to the pub with 30% (plenty) sat and and ate a nice lunch.
@ricco123tube
@ricco123tube Год назад
There isn't any anxiety in my experience. I'd rather pay £5 to do 250 to 300 miles than use expensive diesel.
@phil814
@phil814 Год назад
Yep good road trip but my guess is you don't get many in an electric car as longer journeys have to be planned with top ups ( if you can get a parking slot) , I'll stick to my old citroen 1.4 hdi and get 70 plus to the gallon 😊
@bobphillips2188
@bobphillips2188 Год назад
How can a car be called a GT car when you couldn't drive for even two hours on a motorway, or maybe 3 on an A road, before you have to tear your hair out over charging infrastructure, or lack thereof, or broken charger when you get there? When a car appears that can do at least 4 hours, preferably 5 or 6, then I might be mildly interested in an EV. Provided it is as easy to re-fuel as an ICE vehicle is now, and you don't have to wait more than 20 minutes for a full charge. Or drive out of your way to find juice. Not that I will ever be able to afford such an EV, unless it is 10 years old, with a battery pack about to fail, and a range reduced by half of its original . . . . .
@malcolmgreening6936
@malcolmgreening6936 Год назад
Tesla supercharging is currently 52p / kw locally. Tesla really have nailed it!
@sagalout
@sagalout Год назад
More like 40p at most chargers 👍
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Cheaper than that by quite a lot at most places. Nearest to me is 38p. France was typically 33c.
@EVinstructor
@EVinstructor Год назад
Depends on time of day as well. My local Supercharger is 39p to 43p.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Год назад
My local charge network is 38p if you take out a subscription......
@michaelpdrury1
@michaelpdrury1 Год назад
I still find the constant need for different apps/accounts/rfid cards a joke because there are just so many out there. Contactless payment needs to be a legal requirement for every charger to operate especially when you can walk into any shop and buy a product or service with contactless. Tesla are a little different given that most of the network is specific to the car so your app and payment is in one solution for every charger. I did Northampton to looe and stopped at the m4 and Exeter services (kids) and topped the charge up using tesla chargers in under 15 mins at approx 40p per kwh. The only issue I had was in Looe using the 3 third party chargers which didn't work and cost 70p which is more expensive than an ice. I like this type of honest review where you don't drive at 60 because most don't and do use the available chargers at the current real world cost. 👍
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
It’s getting better 👍
@Z-u-m-a
@Z-u-m-a Год назад
Solid review, as always. Just confirmed again I couldn't cope with EV range anxiety. Not with our trips around the country - not with those charging costs and times... Not with a toddler to have to entertain.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Oh yes 😳
@aerox69x
@aerox69x Год назад
I think realistically a Tesla is the only easy option at the moment, I would really like to go for a different car (eying up an i4) but there is no comparison on how easy it is to use. I've done European trips (from Manchester) with 2 kids under 10 and a toddler and they have needed to stop before the car
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 Год назад
Seriously? No offense but Ped went to a pub. A pub. You couldn't entertain a toddler in a pub for 30 minutes? First world problems. I've been EV through the toddler years of both my two. Never was charging the stress point. Ped had plenty of miles either side of charge stops. Why would you have anxiety? Just trust the mileometer: they're usually pretty realistic.
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon Год назад
why are people taking toddlersin cars anyway. seems a strange thing to do to me
@adrianwhitehead1950
@adrianwhitehead1950 Год назад
EVs sound like a nightmare to me at the moment. I’ve been used to an easy life for 35 years on road trips and they sound too much of a faff. I quite like the idea of low maintenance however but the entry point is still quite high but that also applies to many ICE cars.
@ashdee3363
@ashdee3363 Год назад
Why would you pay as much for a car like this when you can get a real EV with the top of the range charging network. Tesla would be silly to let these "knock off" EV cars use their charging network. Not even comparable to an entry level Model3. Should be illegal to put GT on bog standard.
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel Год назад
Should of asked mogg dogg to tune it for you.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
LOL…definitely doesn’t need tuning 😂
@RowBox81
@RowBox81 7 месяцев назад
I think the average speed zone thing may be Kia GT specific as my 2019 Cerato GT has the same function - it's very useful and everyone who has sees it have always commented on how they wish their cars had it.
@morrissj1
@morrissj1 Год назад
I’ve owned an EV6 now for over a year. My car in the summer has a displayed range of over 300 miles and in the winter about 260 miles. The biggest advantage of fast charging is the preconditioning. The KIA Satnav does this automatically when the charge station is planned in. I can’t say I’ve had range anxiety and when the system is used,as planned, it is really easy to charge and take full advantage of the high speed charging up to 250 - 350 Kw per hour. However they are fewer in number. The big advantage I have is that my daily commute to work is free in the summer - using the charge facility off my solar panel and home battery combination though my Myenergi control system. Smug I know but I think, if you can afford it, why not take full advantage of the systems available.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Great to hear 👍
@andrewmawbey4179
@andrewmawbey4179 Год назад
Turned off at the point you mentioned 220 miles for £40 odd quid after having to sit and eat for an hour in a little restaurant! Imagine taking the family out, that could be 3 or 4 people your also having to buy lunch for instead of eating at home, cracking on with the journey with no stops. Won't ever get me out of a diesel where range can easily be 500 miles plus and less than 5 minutes to fill up anywhere!! Yes you have instant torque and can zip along here and there within the limits, but I'm sure a diesel car over a 400 mile journey would be well out in front by the time you've stopped and farted around waiting to charge..
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Год назад
You drive 400-500 miles without stopping for 20mins for a comfort break🤔 I imagine the family enjoy that 🥶🥵 Why are people rushing around everywhere. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤯
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Nope, been there done that. No difference in practice with people doing normal driving which incorporates breaks.
@richardcorns8553
@richardcorns8553 Год назад
We are currently on a euro road trip in our Model Y and its been extremely easy. We left the Midlands on a full charge and made it to Le Touquet with 13% remaining. Filled up at our hotel for free. Then moved down to Disney Land Paris again no stops and free chargers at our destination. Next moved down to Lyon, needed a quick supercharge ( car said 2 minutes to reach your destination) before reaching our hotel which had a charger, had to pay for this one. Next down to Gordes, no stops and hotel had free charging. Then down to Frejus again no stops and free destination charging. After a week of exploring South of France headed to Chamonix via Italy, needed our first half hour supercharger season. Currently still in Chamonix with free charging at hotel. I have constantly driven at 130kph. I have noticed the charging in France is miles ahead of the UK. All Aires we passed clearly signposted charging along fuel.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
Great to hear 👍
@francoisg3500
@francoisg3500 Год назад
Just out of interest what is your current miles per kilowatt hour?
@richardcorns8553
@richardcorns8553 Год назад
@francoisg3500 280wh per mile. Car fully loaded with luggage, my Wife and Daughter. Aircon on full blast.
@francoisg3500
@francoisg3500 Год назад
@@richardcorns8553 Wow that is really good considering a full car and AC in max. Thanks for reply with the info. 👍
@15bit62
@15bit62 Год назад
We're just on the final leg of our summer vacation with our model 3: Central norway -> stockholm -> UK -> normandy -> Amsterdam -> Stockholm and home tomorrow. Will be around 7300km when we are finished. We're at 170Wh/Km (273Wh/mile) for the trip.
@joely6699
@joely6699 8 месяцев назад
42 PS to top up charge an EV lol, why the fuck would you go away from fossil fuels? The inconvenience would be worth it if you were saving good money.
@mickey4611
@mickey4611 Год назад
This video is all about charging , where and when to charge. My brain hurts.
@dcvariousvids8082
@dcvariousvids8082 Год назад
I don’t see the point selecting Eco mode in a car like that. Nobody who buys such a car, is going to buy it to eek out every last mile per charge. Same as you wouldn’t buy a Unimog, to only carry a notebook and drive round the M25 everyday.
@davidwhiteman4649
@davidwhiteman4649 Год назад
We’ve had EVs since 2014 - an i3, then a Zoe ZE50, then a Tesla Model 3 which we still have along with a Volvo C40. Been doing road trips in the Tesla since 2020 including numerous trips from Winchester to the French Alps, to Milan, to Zurich and domestically to Inverness. Probably 25,000 miles of EV road trips. Only ever waited for a Tesla supercharger once for 5 minutes in summer 2022. Now that infrastructure is getting better we have also started road tripping in the Volvo C40, although we are yet to take it to the continent given that there is a super convenient Tesla sat on the drive next to it.
@chrisva505
@chrisva505 Год назад
Love your videos Pete...but what a total faff. You are welcome to electric cars.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Год назад
😂😂😂
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