Hey Sammy, yes this is designed to b an all in one system. All you need to do is run a wiring kit from your cranking battery to wherever you want your deep cycle. Everything else is built in.
@@KickAssProducts that is awesome. So simple. Everything is so complicated So many of us spend hours researching when there only needs to be one person to research it all and by the looks of it you guys have gotten it right.
OK ...having just spent some time hooking this all up in my Ford Ranger PX2, i feel like i can give some decent feedback. Now...understand, i have no appreciable automotive qualifications or auto electrical experience. Pros. 1) Really solid piece of kit....pretty much everything they say here is true, well built, feels strong in terms of the box itself. good allen key tie down screws to put the lid on 2) Be a little careful though, the lid with all the wiring in it has a bit of weight to it and you don't want to bounce it off anything when you are taking it on and off putting battery in. Once its all screwed down though its fine to move about. 3) the voltage indicator is nice and obvious and the DCDC charger is well bolted to the box. 4) the install of the wiring isnt that hard. It took me longer to work out where to run it through the chassis and get it in there than it did to understand it. 5) works well with my existing kickass battery charger. Mids 1) Remember...not their fault, but you are going to need to give room for a 12v plug to poke out with clearance to your fridge. forgot that and had to move the base. 2) the battery base is a great design in terms of screw down points, but i really would have preferred an aluminum or steel one, the plastic flexes pretty hard depending on where you are screwing it down. 3) it sounds obvious now......(and im pretty dumb) but remember the lid goes on the box only in 1 direction to allow for the vertical Anderson slots Cons 1) Not any so far really, The one thing i would recommend is that the crew do more video installs, show us customer or your installs on all the majors brands. ie how do you get the wiring to the back on a ranger with a canopy ? where is the right fuse on a Hilux? If you did 4 of these videos on each major Utes, you would have 80% of the market covered for self install walkthroughs your customers.. Have a table in the manual for what piggyback fuse we should buy and what slot meets the requirements (to fit and meets the 'ignition on' requirements) Overall ? really happy with it ! good product, solidly built........just suggesting a bit more install/product info for us newbies who are working it out as we go. (and these guys already do a lot of those sorts of videos)
Great information. Just what I need to know as I am about to set up my 4wd for 12v power. I didn't understand exactly about bypassing the solar panel's inbuilt controller. But I get that my solar panel can be used one way or another. I will probably get a kick ass battery box etc after seeing this video.
If you have another solar controller such as the MPPT in the DCDC charger you don't use the built in one on the solar panel. You bypass it and plug your solar panel directly into the solar input on the DCDC charger and it will regulate the power. Hope this helps.
Great product. It already looks better and more features than the Baintech PowerTop V3 that just died on me after 19 months of use. Not happy about it. This is looking like a great alternative to a battery box with Redarc gear that I'm considering.
Hi these are awsome products i love them just wondering i have the agm battery box with the Dcdc charger on top can i upgrade to a lithium battery and put it in the agm box ? Thankyou keep up the Awsome products
Hi Anthony, do you own the KA PowerStation? if so absolutely you can. The charger on the unit is fully compatible with lithium batteries. The only thing is that the volt meter will not be fully accurate with a lithium battery. However our LiFePO4 batteries are supplied with the Remote Display Unit screen which gives you all the information from the units BMS.
Still waiting for a Lithium battery that i can drop into my current Kickass battery box. Found a few candidate batteries but would just like the peace of mind that its been tested.
I have a 250w (unregulated) solar panel connected to this Powerstation. The DCDC Charger showed the overcharge fault as it was getting about 24v from the panel. So how do I overcome this? Is my panel too big? Move panel out of direct sunlight? Buy a step down? or something else? 🤔Thanks again for making great products!
Love how this is a plug and play system basically. 2 questions : 1. In the United States I don't see the 20amp AC battery charger available. Did I miss that? 2. If I leave this plugged in all the time to charge from solar while sitting, should I install a battery isolator so it doesn't drain my starter battery if I am also using the mppt controller? Can't wait to order this.
Hi, our AC chargers are not available in the US just yet. As we run on 240 volt in Australia we have to build a different 120 volt version for you guys in the US. You should always have some sort of isolator between your start battery and your auxiliary battery. Either a VSR or more recommended a DCDC charger.
Not sure what you are looking at but I do not believe there are any products on the market that have both a 25 amp DC-DC / MPPT charger as well as a 300 watt inverter at this price point. But thanks anyway.
It's a good plug and play set-up. Having issues with an over voltage issue from the alternator though. The starter battery is running at 14.3 and the aux battery hits overload at 14.2 turning into a beeping pain in the bum. Shouldn't be doing it
Hey Mate, you should see a bulk charge to an AGM battery of up to 14.4 Volts when charging from your alternator. When the charger senses the battery is full only then should it drop back to the float voltage of 13.7 volts. Is the charger showing you a fault code? If you continue to have issues please submit a ticket via our support portal supportportal.kickassproducts.com.au/kickass-12v-premium-battery-box-with-dcdc-mppt-solar-controller/ One of our technicians will get back to you ASAP.
@@KickAssProducts it's the lithium. Over voltage fault code at 14.2. Then when the battery is off on the toggle it's all lights flashing constantly with the bottom left and bottom right lights on
If i just buy the box itself, what is the largest capacity battery that would fit in it? I would like to be able to run a higher capacity inverter from it.
G'day Mate, it's pretty much designed around the dimensions of a N70 battery as it is the most common but still has a little room to move so you would just have to check the dimensions of your battery Thanks for watching Cheers Craig
Recently installed this in my Colorado and have it running from my main battery using the triple Anderson plug. When I take a test light to it I’m only getting power through the ignition wire. Is this normal? So far I’m happy with the performance of this box I’m just not 100% if there was anything I may have missed
G'day Benny,i would check your fuse mate as you shoud be getting the same reading from start battery to the other end of the triple anderson plug & you should only be getting power to the blue ignition wire while the car is actually running Thanks for watching the video Cheers Craig
with AC charger, can car cigarette socket charing the power station? daily 30min driving to work, which will charge the power station alright for 40L fridge for the day?
No Sorry, The integrated DC DC charger draws 25 amps. A cig socket can only supply 10 amps max. To charge while you are driving you need a direct connection to your vehicle's alternator (start battery). However the 120AH battery when fully charged will keep a 40 Litre fridge running for several days so if you charge from AC at home you would not need to charge when driving.
Can you elaborate on the optional inverter cable; there is no fuse on the red anderson plug on the battery box, so how is the circuit protected? I have asked this question on the contact form on your website but have had no response...
Unfortunately no, We find that most people use the slim line for permanent install, behind seats, in caravans and camper etc. So there is not much of a market for slim line battery boxes. Sorry.
Absolutely, Every thing is the same of the battery boxes except the display screen. If you purchase one of our LiFePO4 4 batteries at a later date, which includes the Remote Display Unit you will just need to decide hoe you want to mount or retro fit the screen.
New to the space so please excuse the under-educated query. Assuming access to full sun, can I plug a 200w sp into this station to maintain the charge and power to your 75 litre dual zone fridge/freezer? Solar panel -> Power Station -> Fridge/Freezer. Planning to pop up to your showroom in Warana this week sometime to have gander and chat. Cheers?
At Pmax, (which is the highest theoretical output of the solar panel) the 200 watt panel is capable of 11 amps per hour so would more then cover the draw from the fridge. However Getting the perfect conditions that result in your panels generating the maximum output is very rare. There are also other factors as what temperature you plan to run the fridge at and if you will be driving and charging the battery from the alternator. Short answer is that it's probably a good idea to pop in and have a chat to one of our guys. Showroom is at 2 Mallet Street Kunda Park 4556.
G'day there,yes charging via in car charger (DCDC) or solar panel & ni always suggest giving a charge at hoem with an AC charger that plugs into your power at home as a maintenence charge & then you have all base's covered then Thanks for watching Cheers Craig
We are working on it, that's why we have made the DC charger Lithium compatible. Unfortunately we don't have an ETA yet. But of course we will announce when we do.
I don't want to use AGM battery. As I have stated multiple times I am asking if it is ok to run an 120Ah LITHIUM battery, plugged directly to the 2000W inverter.
You need to check the what the max output of the BMS is on the battery you want to use. Most Lithium batteries have a Max draw of between 50 and 100 amps, try to draw more then this and BMS will go into protection mode and shut down.
I have 1996 Land Rover Defender 300 tdi and I want to run Fridge, camping shower, lighting, charge phones, laptop etc.... My car has no computer. Do I need to use blue ignition cable??? I can connect it if necessary. So that box will not drain main battery right? Thanks for great looking products!
You don't need to install the ignition wire but still recommend it. As long as your alternator reaches the chargers cut in voltage of 13.2 Volts the unit will sense that the vehicle is running. However it can take a few minutes for your starter battery to get back up to this voltage after ignition. The Ignition wire is usually tapped into the fuse box so that the unit will switch on straight away when you start your vehicle. And yes, the charger also acts as an isolator so your starter battery does not get drained.
Hi, the isolation on/off switch will turn everything off including the DC/DC solar charger when not in use. The 175 Amp has a direct connection to the battery and is the only thing stays "live" when this switch is in the off position.
Unit looks great. Looking to purchase 1. Queations, Can i charge the power pack via my vehicle anderson plug and also the anderson plug from my vehicles fixed solar panels at the same time or do i have diconnect/connect as required? Which way will charge the battery quicker 12 volt vehcile plug or vehicle anderson plug? Can I purchase this product from a retail shop? Can i charge the power pack and run my 12 volt fridge simultaneously while the car is running? If i do run via my vehicles anderson plug does the power back know when to stop drawing power from my main car battery so it does not go flat? Thanks is advance.
lol So many questions, you can call us and have a chat to one of our customer service agents on 07 3063 4211 But here are the short answers to your questions. You can only charge from 1 source at a time. Charging from your vehicle is faster as alternators generate a much higher current. We only have 1 retail shop currently. We are based on the Sunshine Coast at 2 Mallet Street, Kunda Park. Yes You can charge via solar or vehicle while your fridge and other appliances are running. That's the whole idea. The DC/DC charger has an inbuilt isolator, so when you vehicle is not running it disconnects itself from your stat battery.
We sure do. You can find it here. www.kickassproducts.com.au/buy/kickass-portable-battery-box-power-station-with-in/KAJBAGMNODCDC1 Currently on sale for $229 until the 11th of April.
hi there question about the blue ignition wire if you have an older vehicle without a smart alternator do i just plug it in normal with the blue wire not connected to anything or do i need to remove it thanks
Hi Ian, It is super easy mate. It is exactly the same as a two pin plug, you just push the tabs down under the pins and then the pins will easily push out through the back of the plug. You can then cut the cable to the correct length and then crimp new terminals on. Check out our Anderson Connector video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kX-jQ6MQnXc.html You will find the crimping section at 2:20
Great battery box which I'd love to have. Except like many others I already have a DCDC charger. Do you intend to just sell the battery box without the DCDC charger as an option?
As long as the current draw does not exceed 175 Amps. Also running a winch from an AGM battery for long periods of time can significantly lower the cycle life of you battery.
Another great video guys :) Can I ask..... I have the "old" KickAss Power Box with the Projecta DCDC Charger which I had in my old car...... I now have a brand new 2022 Toyota Fortuner and need to wire my old KickAss Powerbox up, can I buy and install the Premium Plug and Play "3 wire" Anderson Plug kit to the car from the Starter Battery and then attach that to the "2 wire" Alternator Input on my KickAss Powerbox in the rear of the car? i.e. can a 3 wire Anderson plug into my 2 wire Input in my old KickAss Powerbox? Cheers, Don, Perth WA :)
Hi Dons. In theory it will work. From memory the old Projecta also had an ignition wire as well so if you remove the 3 way anderson plug and replace it with a standard one you still should be able to use the ignition wire.
Hi guys Newby to the whole kickass 12v power family & have very quickly become a huge kickass fan just think the gear is what it says "kickass" & have recently purchased a heap of gear .. 2x 170ah agm batteries 3000watt inverter Projector & blow up screen with carry bag 12v oven with tray for those roast & pies 👌 8 stage automatic battery charger 3000watt slim line solar panel 5mtr extension lead & jumper cables 10pk 50ah Anderson plug 1 triple Anderson plug 3 rubber weather protection Anderson plug covers Full wiring kit & this 120ah agm battery & box power station. Go hard or go home they recon 🤣🤣👍👍👍 just Getting ready for my up & comming projects I have in mind. Now please bear in mind I'm just a back yardy & working everything out as I go .. my question is will the dcdc charger still work effectively & safely if the temperature sensor wire has been damaged? Secondly is the wire replaceable or is there even a need to replace? What actually happened is as I was screwing the negative battery wire & sensor wire to the battery negative terminal the sensor wire broke rite where the wire goes into the round ring/ crimp end From re- searching on line I can't seem to find any helpful info at all in relation to my problem.. Any help would be appreciated greatly. Cheers guys👍👍
Sorry..one more question.. I'm going to have my 2x 170ah agm batteries & inverter in my trailor Do I still need to fuse between the battery & inverter when connecting my 3000watt inverter to my 2x 170ah parallel connected batteries ? I will be using a extension cable pluged in to main running from start battery to the insde back of my vehicle which the power station box is plugged also.
Hi Mate, unfortunately if you have damaged the temp sensor it cannot be repaired. But good news is that as you are using 2 large capacity batteries and the maximum charge from the DCDC charger is 25 amps, the chance that the batteries will heat up is extremely low. You do not "need" a fuse on that part of the system. Just keep the linking cables as short as possible. Just remember at peak inflow (up to 6000 watts) you can be drawing around 550amps through these cables. Hope this helps
@@KickAssProducts cheers guys thanks for that big help 👍.. stoked to know the dcdc charger still works with out sensor wire to unlike other dcdc charger on the market 👌
Sorry to hear that Gareth. Please contact us via our customer support portal and will will endeavour to help you supportportal.australiandirect.com.au/
Are you able to use the un-regulated solar input for my fixed panel for example, and simultaneously use the regulated input with my solar blanket and mppt charger? So I am getting charge from 2 panels (1 through the regulated port and one through the dcdc charger)
Unfortunately no, what will happen when two regulators are active is that they will "Confuse" each other. As the first regulator is in bulk charge the batteries voltage will read as around the 14.7 volt mark. The second regulator will read this voltage and consider the battery fully charged and therefore will not input anymore charge and vice versa. In some cases the regulators will swap turning off and on as they read each others input voltage.
Most LifePo4 batteries have integrated bluetooth so you can monitor from your phone. However we do have this model available. www.australiandirect.com.au/KickAss-Lithium-DC-DC-Battery-Box
Yes, this charger on this unit is lithium compatible. The difference between our AGM box and our Lithium box is the AGM box does not have the display screen
It is a good idea to check the voltage over your starter battery while you vehicle is idling. If your alternator is putting out 13.2 volts + this will be enough for the charger to cut in so you won't require the ignition cable however it is recommended that you do install it so your charger cuts in immediately.
You mention a 700W inverter can be connected directly via an inverter cable but you don't mention if larger inverters can be attached in the same way. Are your 1200W or 2000W Inverters an option for direct connection via an Anderson plug also?
Hi Fredo, We do not recommend that you use anything higher than a 700 watt inverter through a 175 amp anderson plug. While a 1200 watt will only draw 100 amps at 12 volts, an inrush can spike to 200 amps. This is obviously higher then what the anderson connector is rated for. In most scenarios these are acceptable margins and would be safe, however as the current draw can exceed the max rating we do not recommend it and caution against it. As for a 2000 watt inverter. Peak inrush can exceed 330 amps DC. To handle this safely We recommend multiple batteries wired in parallel with heavy duty linking cables.
@@KickAssProducts And if I were to connect it to a 2000W kickass inverter (I want to run a 1500W induction cooker), how would I go about doing this ? (upgrading the anderson plug inverter connecting cable?)
@@KickAssProducts If I connect the Kickass 2000w inverter directly to 120Ah lithium battery sitting inside of the Kickass power station, would this be a safe option? I need to clarify all these before I place my orders for the powerstation and inverter. Thanks
Hi Warren, our standard battery box is compatible with other brands of lithium batteries. www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-portable-battery-box-power-station-with-in/KAJBAGMKIT1 It would be pointless to purchase our lithium battery box by it self as the LCD screen / connection etc will only work with the KickAss BMS in our battery.
I have had messages from 4 days and 2 days ago that hasn't yet been responded to. I would like to clarify my questions before putting in my order. If I connect the Kickass 2000w inverter directly (rather than via the Anderson plug) to 120Ah lithium battery sitting inside of the Kickass power station, would this be a safe option? I would really appreciate a response to this. Thanks
Hi Jimmy, as I advised previously, if you are using a 2000 watt inverter you will need to use a battery bank of at least 2 AGM batteries linked together in parallel. Running at maximum the inverter will draw up to 180 amps DC and can double that with peak inrush. Drawing this amount of current from a single battery will damage it. If you require technical assistance please contact one our customer service advisors here supportportal.australiandirect.com.au/sales-enquiries/ The phone number is listed at the bottom of the page. Thanks.
@@KickAssProducts I don't want to use AGM battery. As I have stated multiple times I am asking if it is ok to run an 120Ah LITHIUM battery, plugged directly to the 2000W inverter.
We do not recommend using anything over a 700 watt inverter with this battery Box. A 2000 watt inverter will draw up to 184 Amps DC when running at 100% and double that at the peak inrush. For that size inverter we always recommend that you run at least two batteries in parallel and have the inverter directly connected to this battery bank with the shortest cables possible.
@@KickAssProducts Thanks for the prompt response. I was planning to use a 120Ah Lithium battery with this battery box. With this 120Ah lithium battery, is the Kickass 2000w inverter suitable then?
Checked out your website about the new power station. Can you advise of the Solar PV max for the inbuilt solar mppt, for either 12V or 24V. Cant see any 'W' amount shown on the listing. Cheers
The maximum solar input is 25amps and the maximum solar input voltage is 23VDC Amps x Volts = Watts So at max capacity the theoretical transfer will be around 575 watts.
Yes, The charger is fully lithium compatible. Just be advised that if you use the high 175 amp connection that this is a direct connection to the battery. If you overdraw from this terminal you can force you Lithium Batteries BMS into a protection / fault mode.
Looks awesome guys! With the unregulated solar input, is there a reason it’s not a red Anderson plug to stop plugging it in the wrong spot? Is that an option to change it out?
We decided that there wasn't really a need for it as the anderson plug is mostly hidden, especially when installed. It is clearly marked on the lid but if you want to change the plug out it is the standard procedure of unscrewing the plug and popping out the terminals.
Generally we advise on what you require depending on your circumstances and your vehicle. With modern vehicles the alternator output may not be strong enough to charge a second battery. If you require further advice please contact us through our support portal and one of our customer service team will get in touch with you. supportportal.australiandirect.com.au/
AGMs are still the best bang for buck. You can always check our red arcs new 100 ah $3000 goblock! Our DC charger on this system supports a lithium battery so you can buy a lithium battery elsewhere and put it in this system.
