Killer Realizes Victim Solved Her Own Murder 

holy sht :O

Did he get arrested?

Very neighborly 👌

god bless you❤

@MistahJ100 Oh yeah, he got arrested. His friend/brother/whatever whipped around in a car, he jumped in, and they dipped before the cops showed up. But we had the make/model and the plate # so they didn't get far.

But she DID take a photo of his "suspicious" truck. Unbelievable, isn't it.

Absolutely insane and makes me so angry. This woman could’ve been saved.

@@riverjbleuor not depending on how competent the pd is

@@riverjbleuor at least promptly avenged. She didn’t get the justice she needed from bystanders. I just try to take this as a lesson to stay armed, stay fit enough to fight, and stay careful with trust. It’s just a tragedy. I wish she could’ve defended herself or that someone actually came and aided her when she was being attacked.

I was in my vacation house in Pennsylvania and I heard a Huge fight and called the cops. Better safe than sorry!!

an extension of the bystanders effect/rule etc. noone going to want to risk their own life/lives, just human survival instinct! no ape is gonna run in and save a fellow ape, if they themselves cant defeat or escape from whatever is hurting the other ape.

​@@jordnchn7907all they had to do was call the police

Only in America, the rest of the world actually cares about other people.

@@SoulDelSol Go live in a low-income appartment for a while, literally sounds like there's a murder every other day because some people are junkies, or stupid, or just dramatic and love yelling at each other for no reason. You'll quickly grow insensitive to this.

Excuses Excuses 📞 call the police! 🤷‍♀️ You never know

George carlin said it best... think of the lowest iq person you know People are 1000x stupider than that

That's what women are told if they are sexually assaulted

That's been going around for decades now... I think if you yelled fire, anymore, they wouldn't even come for that...

​@@nobody7817A fire has a chance of affecting them.

Idk if I hear someone scream help im immediately investigated.. unfortunately many people assume someone else will help or call cops and not do it themselves.

I don’t know we should be asking David the same thing. Or why he would hurt her in the first place.

It’s pretty pathetic

You've never had neighbors with weird kinks.

If not for this being a true crime video there could be one other reason for someone saying that. But since it is!

@@cdmp777 nah the neighbor is at fault too for not trying to even help

Worlds a messed up place right now

I stg! People think we live in a simulation or something 🙄 glad you called!

Yeah, lots of people seem to think that since they're not involved, they're not getting involved. Same effect as when someone collapses on the sidewalk, and everyone keeps walking.

I feel paranoid sometimes thinking something very bad will happen soon. Wars around the world, hatred increasing everywhere, population increasing so fast, people on their phone all the time.... This is not progress, it's the end of a civilization

Thanks to law suits!​@@SallinKari

This whole situation is horrible and I feel for the victim but your comment made me laugh. People like that neighbor are clueless

Also "She's alive. She's just on a mission to save the president's daughter so I can't tell you where she is but she went to a hospital/offsite place/none of those two because she's into essential oils."

@@willbear2173what, bro stories is not adding up

Let's unpack that real quick.

The fact that you only got that out of this video is pretty telling

I'm really sorry that happened to her and that you have to live with it. Hope you can focus on happy memories of her at this anniversary. ❤

@@susiew2521 thank you ❤️ i will!

@@amabelireyes Much love to you and your family. X

Blessed be you healing ❤

@@freethegreat thank you so much 🙏

Is this I’m California?

It is the most unnerving thing to hear someone crying for help. Happened to me late one night when I was lying in bed reading. I could hear noises from the large vacant allotment next door and I thought people might be having a party. Then the words penetrated. I just heard, "Help me, help me," a couple of times. I phoned the police and they did come around, walked all around the allotment and streets, but didn't see anything. Still worries me, but I don't have any regrets either.

@@arolf2524you have to be careful too because some sickos lure others out of their house with “cries”. Yall be careful out there. Crazies can turn on good Samaritans too.

Called the police once in the middle of the night because I heard some guy screaming ‘help’ like he was in pain, several times (this was a very occupied apartment building btw so I KNOW the neighbors heard). I looked out the window and It was coming from a nearby field, so it felt off. After calling 911, I went to investigate with my ex and turns out it was just some drunk guy having a hard time getting up after presumably falling 😅 Still worth it.

I mind my business.

Never heard of Kitty Genovese, huh?

​@@MenukiDamn..I just had a flashback...I'm a lifelong NYC resident & I STILL remember the Kitty Genovese story..it was one of the stories that gave NYC residents the reputation of being able to IGNORE anything that's going on around them..& basically "Mind their OWN business" ..& while I admit that there are NYC residents that believe that you're asking for trouble by getting involved... I've NEVER been one of them..& I've thrown some POS off the subway for harassing an old woman on the subway as well as standing up to a group of juvenile delinquents who were attempting to rob some innocent tourist looking people...I believe that KARMA will either reward or punish you according to your actions in life.

What the ass fuck? Never heard wtaf before. Wtf is normal not wtaf

@@josephwickham1989 What the Actual Fuck, is how I read it

Two times I called cops for a woman screaming from the direction of a house nearby, one time saying something like " no, please". Nothing came of either. Cops just didn't seem to know what to think of it or care. I won't call again unless I know it's really serious, because they just assume you're nuts or a problem caller yourself if it's not still happening. As if murders or abuse or whatever always takes longer than ten minutes. That might be why people don't call. Nobody actually treats it like "better safe than sorry".

Unfrickin' believable. So sorry.

I hope you told them that if any of them ever needed help in the future, you'd return in kind

Idiots

😮😮😮 This is shocking! I'm glad you okay 😢❤

Wow. That is not good.

Bruh said she's holistic she likes essential oils ....

Why did you want to stop your mom from calling for help for the woman and children being hurt?

@@SoulDelSol Do you not use common sense?

​@@SoulDelSol someone's hiding under your bed......

@@SoulDelSolobviously a 15 year old would be scared.

@@SoulDelSol I was 15 and a coward. It was a very bad neighborhood and I didn’t want retaliation. I’ve learned to step in when I should. I’m 52 now

🙏🏽💪🏽🙏🏽

if you dont mind my asking, what happened?

I used to work at this really nasty hotel in Las Vegas across the street from the Mandalay Bay on the strip. One of the guests calls me and tells me to call 911 because a woman in the next room was getting brutally attacked. I called the police and they came and I told them which room. The police knock on the door, the door opens and the police just burst out laughing. I asked them what was going on and they said “just really loud sex”.

@@shaft5 wow, good on you for calling but that’s hilarious

Why?

@@Iamfreetobeme24 They just told the guy they weren't doing 1 thing, but the other. No one thinks it's smart, the dude just got told off?

@@Iamfreetobeme24 not about it being smart, just them being done with his BS and letting him know he getting charged and this isn't no framing or accusations. Don't overthink it😅

@@bojohannesen4352 you love to defend violent criminals dont ya

@@desmondsummers we get it dear user damn

Well it's a functional life sentence. He's not living to 82 yrs old in prison with mental illness to that degree.

@@paghal11 Oh, I wasn't aware he was... uh, math... 44 years old? Yeah, now that you reminded me of that it makes a huge difference. I guess I'm just so used to seeing videos of teens getting away with murder and a few short years xD

Even you at 12 had more common sense than this grown adult. Smh

They were doing something else

your mother did an amazing job raising you!!

Maybe she deserved it

You are a real hero! Thank God for people like you! Your parents definitely have reason to be proud of you 💗

Good on you for saying SOMTHING! Most ppl would be scared to even say a peep. Respect.

it happened to me once in my apartment complex years ago i heard her all the time being loud screaming music but one night was different around 3am-ish heard 'ow ow ow stop no no no no' and i just couldnt leave her alone in that so i called 911. im only a 5ft tall lady myself and zero muscle all blubber back then otherwise i would have knocked on the door myself. turns out her pimp was beating her, they both went to jail. he was huge super buff guy probably 350lbs he was scary i saw him a few times in the building before. i feel bad she went to jail but maybe i saved her from worse?

@@H.P.Blavatsky I would like to think so. At least in jail there are programs to help ppl get their lives back on track :)

@@BeautifulFanglollll you clearly don’t have experience with people that have been in jail.😂😳🤦🏻‍♀️ They don’t put people in programs, they don’t exist. They charge these women after being assaulted and make it even HARDER for them to get their lives back on track.

@tackychan7626wtf is ur problem??? did this person state a race??? and you know white men commit the most sexual assaults in the us right???

I lived with domestic violence for almost four years. The worst case of it, I was literally screaming "someone call the police, someone help me" (we lived in an apartment complex with thin walls). No one did. Please don't mind your own business, the neighbors next to you probably assumed you already called. I'm glad your sister is okay and that you were able to take a valuable lesson away from that terrible situation.

cool

No offense but what started that whole scenario? Was she poking her nose in again or creating drama. There are two sides to everything. Cheers

I called the police one night on my downstairs neighbors after I heard her say “go ahead and stab me”. She left with the police, but was back 45 minutes later. Some people - you just can’t save.

@@marthienel2190 I've read a lot of stupid comments on this site but yours definitely takes the cake. If you're ever in a situation where you need help, I hope you aren't surrounded by people like you.

Maybe she should have her mental handicap be made official government record. Really though, she obviously knew something bad was going on but didn't want to get involved and/or call the police. This whole "I thought it was kids" story is BS, so she doesn't look as bad not that she actually is coming forward.

Probably tumbleweed

myb

they assume someone else will call and they don’t want to involve themselves.

Speaking as someone who grew up in a trailer park: you get used to the fights. Every other night there's screaming from some other family on the block. You just count yourself lucky that it's not your home having the fight this time. Even if you do call you're more likely to get told to stop, and mind your own business. Depending on the area the police just do not care to follow through with domestic disturbances.

not everyone cares about other people the way you do.

No, but like, she’s totally doing whistleblower thing, so you can’t find her

He has bi polar knob head read about the disability before you say something you know nothing about!!!!

The investigators got way too emotionally involved they both were scolding David so hard telling him that they already know what happened thinking that would make him talk and meanwhile he just keeps repeating ''she's my wife she is still alive i love her and I'm going to protect her from these deep pockets'' and they just get more and more frustrated it was slightly amusing to watch tbh 😂

@christine9146 more like a two year old

Well they did say he had some pretty bad brain damage..

By stander effect is a scary and real thing unfortunately

A lot of people are too self absorbed to help anyone sadly.

@@Dandientartadd onto it the added stigma recently of interacting with or calling police. Not saying it was a factor here but a lot of people don’t want to get cops involved unless they absolutely need to. It’s a shitty situation because sometimes the police do indeed worsen it so what can you do. I agree she should have called here though

Some women scream like that seeing a mouse/rat or spider. I don't blame her.

​@@Dandientart it's been largely debunked

Nah, it says I love you

yeah I agree

Just cut the I love you from it and play and play it on repeat for him

His brain damaged ass will just keep denying that it's her.

@@jessicahank25 so then the recording is just a loop of her saying ALEXA! 😂

he is soooooooooo annoying!!!!!!! lol

The only thing i m wondering WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS DOG

That's methamphetamine

@@bambinaforever1402 I saw on another crime show somewhere that one of the arresting officers adopted him if I remember correctly.

He was telling on himself. They like to project what they do on to other people

I'm that type of neighbor, but I'm also grabbing a defense weapon and investigating so I can relay the details to emergency as I learn them. You best believe all detail is being relayed.

I'm putting money that they're the same neighbord who'd call the cops on their neighbors over the smallest noise

@@roguespartan2854 i called non emergency and over talked like crazy cause it's not my style but L couple lived nxt door n I heard "CALL the Cops" like 3x but I Cldnt tell if it was to others Call the Cops or yelling at person fighting with "do it call the cops" "Go ahead call the cops" but I only heard call the cops decided I cld deal w being the person who Called n nothing going on VS I was the person who didn't call n something did happen.

It’s common in the US, less common in some other countries.. speaking from experience

Minding your own business is like… not commenting on the yard or how the kids behave like lunatics when they play outside. Not ignoring someone’s screams. That’s negligent.

Damn..

Yes. It's extremely vital to run the fuck away from people showing severe signs of paranoia or schizophrenia, because at that point you're usually on the cusp of losing everything that made the person you knew who they were, and they and anyone around them will just be in danger. You literally cannot predict or adequately control the behaviors of someone developing schizophrenia, and no one is in the wrong for trying to get out early while you can still say goodbye to a friend or loved one while they're still mentally present enough to at least partially empathize and comprehend your reasoning. Realistically, no one wants to let go early enough, and there's always a bit of risk people put themselves through for others they care about, but it's definitely scary. Sorry I said a lot without saying much at all lol

You can thank the "karen" meme for this. Crime reporting has flat lined by white women to the point they will have the smoking gun but be too scared to say anything.

Some neighbors just enjoy being nosy. But then they wanna be post-war heroes.

There are so many reasons to refrain from calling the police. Many people won't call unless they think it's absolutely necessary.

I mean gathering evidence of potential crimes before contacting police sounds quite normal, I think you're sensationalising the wrong parts

@@jimz1024 I reckon it depends if the photos were taken before or after she was killed. If after, I can understand. If before, that just seems super odd to me.

Yep. And the very first red flag Is him not asking what's going on immediately when they first pull him over...

I mean they were getting divorced. They weren't in love lol

But he says hes is still in love witg her to the officer who pulled him over?​@@RossIsFine

Yeah I feel like binging these has given me a 6th sense about this stuff lol

​@@RossIsFineshe was divorcing him. He was there because he thought the apocalypse was about to happen and he wanted her to go with him.

Yeah 😄 he didn't think too far ahead. The Coronavirus thing too . There's no Facility just for covid patients lol. Not even in 2020. I think he thinks he's the smartest but he was figured out really fast. Really sad !!

And the annoying insistence that she's still alive despite everything showing she clearly isn't.

Peak delusion - the same delusional behaviour that's driving society towards its own self-assured destruction.

Usually the put the story together in a haste after they commit the crime

he was prolly trying to go for an insanity plea so his sentence wouldn't be so harsh

It all makes sense now

i just got to that part. finally the detectives are pressing him there.

Typical narcissist, creating nonsense out of thin air to defend their delusions

What about the 22 other guys? If they hadn't charged him, he would still be coming up with his fantasies.

Makes me sick! I wish we could prevent all this evil. But sadly we cannot without taking away peoples freedoms to choose.

Me too 🙄 I'm like whaaat !?

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a fire is a little different from a person using weapons to k1ll people. if you dont have weapons to protect yourself your just going to rush into the scene and possibly become another victim

Call the police- do the minimum​@@Malik1Only

@@Malik1Onlyokay and is that an excuse to not call the police when you hear someone screaming???

@@Malik1OnlyI agree with you that not to run into some dangerous situation but we can still call police for the poor victims.

I wish more neighbors were like you. 💙💚 This is my reminder to make an effort to be that neighbor I would want.

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Lmao just realized how ridiculous his statement was

@@markgonzales1970 Imagine "she uncovered a North Korean spy ring, so she contacted the EPA." 😄

😅😅😅 She was supposing him. What?? Who does that? He does not want to work.

David the compulsive liar should have realized that the jig was up because he said Gretchen was following him until El Paso, Texas but her car was in the hospital parking lot. Not to mention the CDC Center for treating Covid. Then he stated Gretchen was in his car. I would have mentioned DEATH PENALTY!!!

And you know what else? No one asked you

⁠@@alfredorock-flores8480and you know what else? it’s a public comment section where people don’t need your permission so sit your self-centered ass down

@@alfredorock-flores8480 fix your life

@@alfredorock-flores8480no one asked you

And know one asked you to reply and now we find ourselves in paradox@@alfredorock-flores8480

You have to call "fire".

​@@nickleontis9350 bro what 😐

@@FritznalI think he was trying to say if you call out fire, people are more likely to come out to investigate out of concern for themselves. When you cry for help many people choose not to get involved because many domestic cases women stay in the relationship even though they’re being battered.

Going to guess not white people.

@@AsYouLikeIt_Zendi21 In this particular case the woman and the man were not in an intimate relationship. They were neighbors from different apartments and got into a lot of fights for a lot of petty reasons. The guy apparently had some mental health/anger management issues (and was an insufferable neighbor because of it). Karma got him though: he had his leg amputated in prison after a fight with other inmates. After his release he got married to a woman, who ended up murdering him in a domestic...a wild story altogether. On the other note, if I got viciously attacked suddenly and without warning, I don't know whether I would have enough mental presence to think about screaming "fire". People unused to violence react on instinct, not rational thought.

You are very grateful for someone sticking up for you when you aren't yet able to stick up for yourself. However, it's very possible you leaving helped her learn to advocate for herself.

The awkward lies that everybody knows aren't true are so cringe.

Neither of the detectives here kept their cool though.

@@person35790 yeah they did

@@Deletirium He kept saying, "So you say," over and over again. What a wormlike coward. I'm sorry she let that creep into her and her daughter's life, thinking she could save him from his mental illness.

These detectives are definitely patient. But Alex (on PP Southeast Texas) interviewing child predators and getting them to incriminate themselves. His patience and skills are unmatched.

Omg!! That is awful!! Maybe other neighbors called too, but chose to wait in their apts. Some ppl say "mind your own business", but I think a community is your business.

"You're trying to fit a square hole into a round peg." You know who the genius was that said that quote? None other than David in this video 😮 That poor girl 😢

Btw who's the one female neighbor you're specifying in your post? What did she do exactly? Out of all your neighbors, you're just mentioning her.. so what did she do? ..or what did she not do?

It's the kind of world we're living in now--divorced from reality, and tuned into social media; some people see and hear reality but it fails to strike a cord in them.

I heard screaming from a neighbour - yelled out ‘I’ve called the police’ everything went quiet - when the police arrived she denied he’d hit her - I saw her in town next day with two black eyes(no shame) - she married him a month later

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That woman should be charged imo lol shes an accomplice when she didnt report it

@@jordansme1234567 big lack of logic here, how would you like every neighbour to be an accomplice of a murder because they might have heard someone yelling? And if someone is attacked in public should every single person there call the police at the same time as to not become accomplices?

I thought it was two different neighbors. If it was the same neighbor, that lady is messed up in the head.😢

True shit. Her ego was more important

She was almost worse than David in terms of ego and being abhorrent

"had to body slam herself into his car" lmao

so unprofessional

That lady was annoying, but I liked the other cop. "You exercised your right to be quiet, yeah? That's a smart man. Keep doing that." Subtly telling him to STFU.

His family failed him and Gretchen. After his TMI he should have been hospitalized in a psych ward. Obviously that fucked him up even more than he already was. Just a sad situation all around

⁠​⁠@@djLagwayEnjoyerLongterm psych hospitals pretty much don’t exist anymore in the US….Regan closed them. The few inpatient psych units that remain have very short stays, for good and bad. At the one I worked in, the average stay after a serious suicide attempt was 1 or 2 days, though this is based on the inpatient care generally does not lead to better outcomes). The psych units that do exist are often financially insolvent, and kept open by hospitals as a community service. Everyone wants better mental health care…but no one wants to pay for it. Our small unit had 3 nurses who did nothing but fight with insurance companies for payment. Just go to any inner city and you can clearly find many people with far more debilitating neuropsych issues, left to the streets. It varies a bit by state, but it generally EXTREMELY hard to have someone legally committed, and until courts get involved due to a crime, it’s typically only for very short-term, crisis care. It’s not like in the movies.

It says a lot about a certain segment of our population when they believe exactly what an insane person with a TBI believes.

It would have been life w/out parole but they cut a deal so the family could bury her rotten carcass remains.

Preds get less time then that....... How sad.

Right not the man who killed his wife on camera and pretended she was a whistleblower

He's not dumb; he's a murderer. She's dumb because she heard the screams and pleadings of a woman in danger but didn't contact 9/11 but somehow managed to feel the situation was dangerous or peculiar enough to warrant taking a picture of David's truck and license plate. So yeah, she is dumb. A complete dumbass who should have to look Ava in the face every day and explain why she didn't try to save Gretchen.

@@5h4d0w5l1f3 its to close to call lol

That doesn’t take away the fact that a 911 call could have saved Gretchen, and then going on camera to confirm her stupidity.

​@@5h4d0w5l1f3😒😒😒😒 So you think the neighbor is smart? Both are dumb. Ones a dumb killer. Ones just dumb.

I’m glad that you were able to get away. ❤️

Keep remembering to keep those boundaries clear- it’s easy for them to creep over time. Good for you!

Glad you're able to get out. Stay safe and don't give that snake an inch

Life has conditioned me to look EXTRA hard at people when someone says 'they wouldn't hurt a fly'. In my experience every person described that way has been extremely dangerous in some way

Marry in haste, repent at leisure 😢

She’s extremely stupid and unprofessional, emotionally immature af, she was just saying a load of nothing.

I agree, she was so weird. It seems like she was on some sort of power trip 😒

Huge ego on a power trip.

Disgusting, prob latina

The cop who told him to be smart and not talk was good at de escalation

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@@linuxguy1199ticle

Elderly people should have an Alexa. Just like Gretchen did, if they can’t call for help, they can yell to Alexa to call for help to call 9-1-1

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When I was a young kid, I saw my neighbor laying in their yard not moving. I was only eleven or twelve, so I was afraid to go out there and check on him. So I called 911. The cops arrived for a wellness check and he got out and laughed, I think he was just stretching or relaxing. For a long time I've felt bad about it and cringed at myself for not checking on him first, but now I'm glad that I at least did something just in case.

Those are sone dark evil neighbors. Calling 911 is not "getting involved."

I would have brought you in, and protected you . I hope you are ok now.

@@La.Summer People know the police can't protect them and if called to court as a witness the defense attorney will attack you to remove your credibility to jurors. Your past and anything personal will be made public.

I woke up one morning & saw a nude woman out in front of my condo door. I ran out & tried to untie her. It was not until I went out that anyone else came. They had seen, but made no move to help her until I went out. The first thing she said after I got her head & mouth free was, "my baby, my baby.". I ran to her condo & got her baby, not even thinking that the rapist might still be in there & all I had on was a thin summer nightgown. Only looking back did I realize it was a dangerous situation. When I got back with the baby, my neighbors had her in their home & covered with a sheet. These situations are confusing at the time they are happening. To me it all happened in slow motion. But my neighbors said I was moving faster than they thought anyone could. Adrenaline I guess.

Sorry to hear that your cries for help went ignored.. There are those that think that getting involved can put them in danger too - that's what I eventually found out after MANY occasions of experiencing DV.. Some people are natural born hero's and the rest just can't be bothered 😢 Sorry you had to go through that, yet glad you didn't even hesitate to help that poor woman and her baby.. Stay strong ❤

Sadly as a woman we do have to be cautious of situations because they will use things like this to kidnap and traffic women when they go to help. Best to call the cops and let them handle it

​@@erinr6026 Hi! Some info on trafficking that might help- You're right in that someone could be messing around or setting a trap but just FYI, trafficking almost never works like that. It's a rumor that's been passed around so much people think it's real and not blaming you one bit for that but just giving you the info for your safety. Please feel free to do your own research, it's a well studied topic. But I worked with law enforcement who worked in s*x trafficking. It's usually a loved one or trusted associate that tricks you into thinking you have an escape or opportunity and end up being trapped with abuse and drugs, sometimes confinement but the mind is enough of a cage when done right. They target people who are already on the end of their thread. People who are desperate and vulnerable. Teens or young adults whose families/spouses are neglectful or abusive, they may be homeless or sometimes addicts or even just girls or young men looking for love and support and finding a "Boyfriend" online or at a bar but coming from such a toxic environment that they don't know how to identify the red flags in the person's behavior... things like that. It's the people you know who pose the greatest risk to you statistically, whether you're talking assault, grape, murder or trafficking, strangers are the minority of offenders. Not to say distrust everyone in your life and keep them at a distance, but do keep yourself safely positioned, so many of the traditional thoughts on relationships can trap you in abuse if you don't learn to see the signs. Highly recommend studying the basics of psychological dysfunction, like personality disorders, cycles of abuse, attachment types, etc, etc.. Life changing information that helps you so much in so many ways.

​@@erinr6026 Hi! Some info on trafficking that might help- You're right in that someone could be messing around or setting a trap but just FYI, trafficking almost never works like that. It's a rumor that's been passed around so much people think it's real and not blaming you one bit for that but just giving you the info for your safety. Please feel free to do your own research, it's a well studied topic. But I worked with law enforcement who worked in s*x trafficking. It's usually a loved one or trusted associate that tricks you into thinking you have an escape or opportunity and end up being trapped with abuse and drugs, sometimes confinement but the mind is enough of a cage when done right. They target people who are already on the end of their thread. People who are desperate and vulnerable. Teens or young adults whose families/spouses are neglectful or abusive, they may be homeless or sometimes addicts or even just girls or young men looking for love and support and finding a "Boyfriend" online or at a bar but coming from such a toxic environment that they don't know how to identify the red flags in the person's behavior... things like that. It's the people you know who pose the greatest risk to you statistically, whether you're talking assault, grape, murder or trafficking, strangers are the minority of offenders. Not to say distrust everyone in your life and keep them at a distance, but do keep yourself safely positioned, so many of the traditional thoughts on relationships can trap you in abuse if you don't learn to see the signs. Highly recommend studying the basics of psychological dysfunction, like personality disorders, cycles of abuse, attachment types, etc. Life changing information that helps you so much I so many ways.

​​​​@@erinr6026 Hi! Some info on trafficking that might help- You're right in that someone could be messing around or setting a trap but just FYI, trafficking almost never works like that. It's a rumor that's been passed around so much people think it's real and not blaming you one bit for that but just giving you the info for your safety. Please feel free to do your own research, it's a well studied topic. But I worked with law enforcement who worked in s*x trafficking. It's usually a loved one or trusted associate that tricks you into thinking you have an escape or opportunity and end up being trapped with abuse and drugs, sometimes confinement but the mind is enough of a cage when done right. They target people who are already on the end of their thread. People who are desperate and vulnerable. Teens or young adults whose families/spouses are neglectful or abusive, they may be homeless or sometimes addicts or even just girls or young men looking for love and support and finding a "Boyfriend" online or at a bar but coming from such a toxic environment that they don't know how to identify the red flags in the person's behavior... things like that. It's the people you know who pose the greatest risk to you statistically, whether you're talking assault, grape, murder or trafficking, strangers are the minority of offenders. Not to say distrust everyone in your life and keep them at a distance, but do keep yourself safely positioned, so many of the traditional thoughts on relationships can trap you in abuse if you don't learn to see the signs. Highly recommend studying the basics of psychological dysfunction, like personality disorders, cycles of abuse, attachment types, etc. Life changing information that helps you so much I so many ways. If they target random adults in populated areas, they are just bringing the cops and media down on them. It's a huge risk and there's no need. There's plenty of young people from poor and dysfunctional households who are perfect targets, easy to trick into volunteering, family can't/ won't do much, cops will treat it like a runaway, plus drugs are usually already part of the equation. There's simply no need for them to take the risk. Like serial killers, most often, they go for the easy targets and know where to find them. It's tragic. I remember a couple years back people were getting so worked up online because in some city, someone thought it would be kind and uplifting to leave a single rose on their parked car in a grocery parking lot and everyone thought it was traffickers... it's not. That's just not how it works. Sorry if multiples, it wouldn't post. Hope you and yours stay safe and well, always.

it's no one else business that's why, single women have to deal with this cold world just like single men do, this is why men and women are better together... choosing your mate is the highest decision!

The guy is messed up in his head, the neighbor isn't. And the fact she ended up thinking in her right mind that kids were being hurt or hurting someone and STILL chose not to act is complacency in Gretchen's murder, and if it had been children involved directly she'd be complacent in abuse. She had nothing to risk losing in that moment, yet just laid there listening to it until it was over and went back to sleep. That's the problem with her.

LMAOOO

😂😂😂

It's not : it is not Doesn't: does not Unbeknownst to me: i did not fathom the knowledge that was not known to me (word count: 201) 😂

The manner in which he speaks is equal to how I formulate and write my written assignments when I am taking a shot at adding 200 more words. That was my attempt :p

But what I tell you next about the way he talks is truly shocking...

COULD HAVE

Sadly I doubt it, she would've been dead still by the time police arrived, it just would've sped up him going to jail.

Always call 911 if you're not sure

She would’ve been in the dark once police came

​@@NewjerseyblowsYep always and convey as much information as possible, it's easier for you to give all the information available to you than it is for somebody being attacked, so the person being attacked gets to call quickly and fill in some gaps giving much more information to responding officers, instead of just the little bit from each individual.

Come on, bro.

Come on what?

​@@mnemonichotpocketthat was another one of the criminals defenses

@@SoulDelSol Gotcha

Or 'She's still alive' 😂😂😂

Well it could be a movie

​@@juliusfishman7222That's true, we do live in a matrix.

​@@juliusfishman7222 A movie blasting that loudly at 6am? That wouldn't be my assumption as a bystander. Now if that happened at 6pm, a movie might be plausible. But not 6am, imo. And if it was a movie at 6am and I called the cops, I'd be glad to find out it was just someone who fell asleep with their TV on too loud than the alternative, but I wouldn't feel right assuming it was a movie that early.

She s Gould be charged and jailed for her outrageous stupidity

@@destineeryan6773it happens or a bunch of unruly kids screaming

Agreed, but the patrol cops midway are thru too. What is it with female officers yelling and screaming at suspects, trying to start a fight.

This guy makes you want to pull out some pliers.

@@Deletiriumman she was awful. “Body slam herself into his car” “thought cause I was 5’2 blah blah blah” she was the worst

@@tgj42495She seems more interested in trying to brag about some level of dominance/control than in doing her job - I fully appreciate it’s important for officers to have control over the situation & make that clear to the suspect, but he’s already on the floor, cuffed and surrounded by male officers by the time she starts yapping And from the body cam footage, it looked an awful lot more like the guy just decided to walk back from the car and not like the action hero she made herself out to be, single handedly dragging him to the ground with her almighty power 😂

So is the neighbor

Did you buy a gun ?

@@chrismadrid7849 no but I have thought about how lucky those dogs were that I didn’t have one bc they would be dead, instead of back in their yard a block away. Im far from a gun person but I’ve always thought about owning one despite them making me uncomfortable, especially if it protects me and my loved ones (a cat 😂) I was just shocked no one came to help me I was always taught to scream for help.

​@user-fs2dt4tj4s but if you had a gun u wouldn't and couldn't be a victim anymore. I bet your a Democrat huh

People have guns because they are afraid, so they will not step into any situation that might be scary.

​@@user-fs2dt4tj4sSad truth is that when it comes down to the nitty gritty there's only 1 person you can count on and that person is YOU!!

yeh, crazy not to ring the police and let them decide if it's important

It blows my mind that people are so okay with not doing anything. One of the craziest coincidences in my life came out of me overhearing a woman screaming in an apartment parking lot. Back then, I was stupid and didn't call the cops at first, either. However, I did go outside and look around to see what was going on, and I saw this dude trying to drag a woman kicking and screaming into an apartment. So, I yelled, "hey what you doing? Hey lady, are you okay?" When she looked at me, I recognized her. She used to ride my bus and was the little sister of one of my friends back in high school! Which I lived 30 miles from where I went to school at that point. I don't think she recognized me, but she looked so much like her sister Brandy. Anyway. She certainly needed help and I obliged. Which got me stabbed well slashed with a GD big ole Kitchen Knife. Luckily, I was holding her purse for her and mostly blocked the dudes arm with it, and he dropped it. I got one good punch in to him before he ran back to his apartment to grab another knife, but we had got into my place and called the cops at that point. So I guess my point is. Call the cops if you hear someone screaming. Use some common sense, and don't try to be the hero, because you can just end up getting yourself hurt. I mean, judge for yourself, if it is absolutely dire and requires you to step up. Do so, but do so knowing the potential consequences. Oh, and watch out in domestic abuse cases, sometimes the woman will go from being beaten up by the man to attacking you for helping her. So Call THE COPS. It's better safe than sorry. I hope the lady who did nothing at all loses tons of sleep at night. The simplicity of a call could have changed everything. BTW My Friends sister is now married with 2 lovely kids and we keep in tough to this day. It's okay for us to care about the safety of strangers. No matter what anyone tells you.

She should have her right to vote revoked!!

Haha

Kind of sick honestly. She could have called anonymous or even let her man or another neighbor know? Fucking anything really 🤦‍♂️

Right like he’s claiming she’s cheating but it’s the fact that she’s supposedly dating dudes that are too hot for her that he doesn’t like, not that she’s cheating??

My guess is that Gretchen had been gas-lit from day 1 of their marriage, but dramatically escalated after his accident!

@@absolfan1184 I DON’T think he is not guilty due to insanity, but…a severe head injury is no joke, and sadly, there aren’t great treatments for it. People can change utterly, and he clearly seems off, telling a story even a 12-year-old would call out as sounding like a bad movie. Would he have done that without the head injury? We will never know.

It wasn’t the part where he lost his job and his first thought was to take a cross country vacation without his wife?

When he said that it made me sick.

Crazy they’re only capable of that when it’s a white person

especially in light of recent events. beyond frustrating!

Woman killers don’t have a good life in prison

Would have gone down very differently had he been a person of colour

y'all know exactly whyte that happened

I thought i was crazy for a minute! Fukn bozo!!!!

That SHIT Just Irritated Me To My Soul, 😮

And then read it in the third person! She referred to herself by her first name instead of "I"? GTFOH, this guy's a real moron.

From that recording I think she was just screaming “Ahhh” and Alexa recorded that moment thinking she was saying Alexa because she doesn’t say any numbers. Unless there’s another video but it said that was the Alexa recording.

AI IS demonic

She yelled Alexa call 911 but it didn't catch it which is why Alexa is much more sensitive now when you're talking and it just starts talking back to you and you never said her name it's because of this case. It misheard the call part.. and yes whenever you say Alexa it starts recording FYI

@@user-pi7ug4dm6m bullshit explaination based on nothing

To be fair, I’m not sure any human or device would interpret the noise she made as what was transcribed in the video

Im so sorry you had to go through that😢😢this is why I always say something....

Maybe you just had a really loud scream while being punished If i know your mom is a god fearing woman why would i assume she is going to kill you Maybe you aren't a good child and you misbehave in your own self righteousness and individuality And if everyone in the neighborhood knows that as a common occurrence where you end up still being alive why call? If it was the screams of your mother I'm sure they would have called, but if you screamed all the time and you got punished all the time it's just par for the course Don't take it so personally, you're not that important and internalizing that will make your life allot more pleasant

​@@PaendaTube​ WOW. You have some messed up logic. "God fearing," or pretending to be, is no guarantee and is sometimes a cover. Just because someone ends up alive the next day... Are you serious? The day they don't end up alive do you reconsider your choices? It's too late then. Someone screaming from being beat, if it even lasts just minutes, is not discipline. Hearing screaming while playing with your kids (which implies the passage if time) is excessive. You should be checked out (in person) by a psychiatrist because you may be unaware that you are a narcissist.

Huh, that's funny they had the maturity to know going into separate rooms was the adult thing to do at that point in the argument. But only after a glassware cup was thrown at the wall. Lmao Not being rude or anything, I just found that funny is all.

Except now the guy is tainted as an abuser because the cops turned up after an argument.

@@thelegendaryfoxfire693 Yes, women seem to throw things.

@@Cheepchipsable You literally have no idea about what happened after the police showed up. Keep your misogyny to yourself lmao

🤭 she said that guilt free too.

​@@LaNayHarold-HardingApparently brainless AND heartless. How one could be so lacking of empathy, I don't understand. Let's hope better people are around us if we ever need help.

I bet she would have waited for "Help PLEASE"... got to have BOTH magic words...

@@LaNayHarold-HardingExactly, as if it was the murdered victim’s fault because the didn’t use the correct words. Unbelievable.

Probably because they were treating it as a felony stop.

I’m sorry 🫂

@@AnnRamiez - Thank you. I’m grateful to be alive. My family drove from out of state the following day to come get me.

Be very discriminating and critical about whom you choose as a boyfriend ... use your woman's intuition; you probably have already learned enough from that encounter. No man should in any way be abusive to his girlfriend or wife---only understanding, supportive, and compassionate and loving. Otherwise, bail out!

You should make a police report if ever he does something like that again.

Is he a tall white guy?

Came here looking for this! 23:40 for those who missed it

That cop tried helping a "bro" out instead of backing up his own teammate (the woman officer). His actions could've really backfired in a different case if the murderer was smarter. And they say men "aren't emotional". He let his ego almost get in the way of an investigation.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Also, that male detective tried talking over the female detective when she was clearly better at getting to the murderer's feelings. He should have let her take over to get info out of him. Instead he tried copying her method and clearly failed. Ofc he was gonna fail, he's a man. Women are just naturally better at bringing out the emotions of people because they aren't as much of a physical threat as men. These men's focus wasnt even on their job for some of the tasks, it was to "sit" the women down for NO reason. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Each gender has its strength, had the men cooperated w the women, it would've brought the best outcome. Luckily everything came out good enough. Not to be petty but..... Men. ☕️ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤷‍♀️

@@ayofrtho7014 Nope. He was telling the guy to shut the hell up.

​@@ayofrtho7014not to be petty but... You have problems. I suggest some sort of therapy.

@@ayofrtho7014 damn woman, you really really need some help fr, can only imagine how miserable you must be irl, yikes

Thank you!! ❤

That's a bit insensitive you know. People with disorders can't help the way they were born.

​​@@Pignificent They can try to better themselves, they can promise themselves to not hurt others, they can get help. I'm schizophrenic, I can't help that either but I'm responsible for my actions. If I hurt anyone due to my illness, I'll make sure it never happens again. This is MY problem, no one else. It's pathetic to hide behind "they can't help it". Ofc they can help it, they choose to not better themselves. The only point you have is that sick people shouldn't be feared, the absolute majority are harmless.

@@Pignificent you're a bot. shut it.

@@Pignificenta narcissist is not born that way- it’s a character choice in their choosing to ignore moral compass- narcissists are masters in manipulation, lies and deception tactics! Every choice they make is designed to control,abuse, and destroy the people who they can not control or no longer get their way with- severe cases of narcissistic personality people show them to be Psychopaths capable of anything when they feel they have lost control and a person sees them for who they really are they can’t stand it!!! Be careful of overly nice people because underneath the mask you might be dealing with an unstable, mean, manipulative, malicious liar, psychopath.

@@Pignificent The irony of YOU saying MY comment is "a bit insensitive" is freaking comical to me. If you knew even the tiniest bit of the narcissistic personality disorder you know that they ABSOLUTELY know what they're doing, they just don't care, and do you know why?!? Because they're known for not having a single drop of empathy for anyone! They go out of their way to find the person with the most empathy in a room, and they stick their claws into them. So you saying that I'm "insensitive" because I can spot similar behaviors in another person, please forgive me, is A JOKE! It's laughable. Good day to you.

Definitely helps to just greet your Next-door neighbors at least once . Most people don’t talk to anyone outside of their work or house now, so nobody knows anyone. Thus, nobody cares because so few seem to possess the empathy or heroism needed to intervene somehow.

It really doesn't say anything about the neighbors. It's a social situation that occurs, "the bystander effect". Its not new, people tend to think "someone else will call/take care of it." Especially in a more populated area. It's just important to remember these events and just be sure to be the ones to take action/make the call if you're ever in that situation.

When the cops act like total assholes to everyone at every opportunity I don't wonder why.

@@jerichothirteen1134 people act like assholes to them. Respect goes both ways.

@HM-qf8ml respect is earned not given. Some people think it's should be given for which costume they wear.

100%

Amen!

I’ve never heard of this and I live down the street

I have seen this on at least three other true crime channels.

​@@bjbrownnice, do you want a cookie as well?

Yeah, she was much better looking than him.

Fr Hes not even a 2. He looks like he smells bad too

Classic psychopathic thinking

@@steviecrow914bad news for incels😭😭😭

Haha he’s so insecure! Anyone that even says that doesn’t really think that, they are just arrogant!

As a victim I've got to say you did the right thing, to get my abuser out of the house and people take the kissing me of going back to him but the fact of the matter is at the lock doesn't make people like him leave, I have to go for a long time out court eviction process and the police never believed the female when they call for help, Even when he was putting holes in my walls in my daughter and I were scared the cops NEVER took our side! IT was CRAZy

Yep, been there. Hard to understand, so hard to watch, makes no sense. Keep trying tho.

Yep that's exactly why I wouldn't give her type aid

​@@meredithisme3752it's exactly why you do give them aid. Some people need many chances to break free from abusive relationships.

@@papapanders488And innocent people will sometimes get hurt or worse because the abuser will retaliate against them for getting involved.

What else did he about her? She can't cook, she's a 5, she's been with 22 guys, etc. thinking the cops would be on his side LOL

Tbf essential oils is redflag

@@supremebuffalo6322 Nah. Some of the best women are also into essential oils. "Manifesting" is the redflag. If she also has tattoos and a septum piercing that's a drop her cluster of redflags.

​@@drek9k2 "nah" interesting counterpoint, I'll change my entire worldview now. Believing in essential oils shows a certain level of naivety and lack of awareness (and sometimes lack of intelligence). I'm not attributing this woman's death to her belief in essential oils, btw. She was killed by a psychopath and it had nothing to do with her interests. Just saying its a valid redflag.

@@drek9k2 Lord forbid some people speak some positivity into their lives

Even took a picture of his truck in the driveway that morning for some reason and still was like “welp. Nothing suspicious enough for me to call the cops”

She should be ashamed

God bless you - you probably saved her life!

​@@changeintheair9648😂😂😂

they took over hitting her?! What savages

lmao

@@fgycv😂😂😂

That word is very often overused, but I think it applies here pretty well. He tried with the cops the same sort of tactics they use with other people. "You have a history of lying, so..." while lying through his teeth. "So you say". "Blood may not be hers, have you ever thought about that?" Unbelievable. He sounds like my mother.

well this is a damaged brain scrambled him, people really fail to grasp how damaging brain injuries are / can be, they will fundamentally alter the core of who you are

​@Refertech101 With all due respect, their are millions of people with brain injuries who don't commit murder.

​@Outworlder yes it is overused.. but I know the difference between narcissistic and malignant narcissist. I'm no professional narc detective, but he is definitely Malignant.

@@jesusisgod4992 not sure if you are responding to my malignant Narcissist comment? But in case you are.. I agree with you , but the killer does exhibit signs of a high degree of Narcissism

😢

This is a 40 year old man who’s best argument is essentially “I know you are, but what am I”

Brain damage

it's the culture....

Detective: "We have the video evidence. You're going to jail for murder." David: "You mean my excuse about space aliens and all of us being spies for secret agencies isn't convincing you???"

bipola

Western women...

@@HaggisMuncher-69-420what a stupid response.

@@HaggisMuncher-69-420ok incel 😂

If it is important, she has photos, if it isn't, then there's no need to waste people's time.

She was a moron

I’ve intervened before and had the man and the woman start tripping on me about it not being my business. I’m sure a lot of people are wary about intervening, especially if it’s happening all the time. If it sounds like someone is being killed I’ll call the police but otherwise I’m minding my own business. I’ve learned my lesson

I'm sorry that happened to you in your childhood

What you are describing is a bit different point of view. Unfortunately the times were much different back then. Everyone was quiet about home violence it wasn't a topic to talk about. We used to be beaten to pulp and I'm sure all the neighbours knew and heard. Nobody said a thing. Nowadays you can't even rise your voice at a child without people reacting. That's why we have all those brats around. I'm not saying olden days were good they weren't, but we went from one extreme to the other... Having said that, I would too call the police if I heard someone screaming for help directly or indirectly ❤

Always someone with a bullshit excuse. The times were not that different. ​@@dominika.h

@@dominika.h Brats? Today's kids are so much kinder and more accepting than we were decades ago. It's pretty gross that you're replying to a comment about someones abuse filled childhood with what amounts to an argument in support of abusing children.

Definitely a trash cop based solely off this one interaction. Perhaps it was just a bad day… but I doubt it. Wearing a badge doesn’t give you the right to be so condescending. & the fact she had to humble brag about how badass she is at only 5’2? Jesus

Literally! I was thinking those cops really sucked regardless

wtf does that even mean lol

Being from Florida, we would never accept her as one of our own. She needs to go back to New Jersey.

Exactly. She was so pissed about “having to body slam myself” into his car that while her partner was trying to get actual important information and ask questions, it was derailing the whole situation. Her screeching was making things worse by far.