Kiln Dried Vs Air Dried: Dispelling A Wood Drying Myth!

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@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Moisture Meter in video: amzn.to/3PFmJkK

@mikedillon9417 6 месяцев назад

I appreciate that we can count on a new video from you every few days. You’re like a friend I look forward to seeing.

@steveshoemaker6347 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Nathan and it is always good to see your Dad in your videos 👍

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

You bet

@Hickory4848 6 месяцев назад

As a guy with a degree in Wood Products Engineering, I feel you did a great job in telling folks about the limits of air drying. If one lived in Southern Arizona, N. Mexico, etc, air drying could get you a lower moisture content but for every area of the country, there's a limit as to how dry air drying can possible get you, no matter how many more months or even years you leave the lumber under cover. The old 1 year for every inch of thickness does apply to our slowest drying species, the various white oaks. So I assume they used to apply that rule to almost every species just as an easy rule of thumb. Plus as I'm sure you know, there are dry kiln schedules that were developed many years ago for every common species and the thickness at hand. Trying to force the process with extreme conditions just results in ruined lumber. I bet you turn out some beautiful stuff. Black cherry a real favorite of mine.

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Appreciate it

@CraigInNC 6 месяцев назад

Good to see Mr. Kato being busy, not just Mrs. Kato. I enjoy watching the different aspects of your daily work.

@wdwtx2.0 6 месяцев назад

Spring is here.

@eriklarsson3188 6 месяцев назад

Over here in Northern Europe the days are getting longer and the sun is finally starting to warm. Sure is nice.

@texasjetman 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the refresher course on how to properly dry hardwood Nathan. Yes Sir Robert had a very impressive operation but OTW is my favorite channel I’m proud to be a Patreon member of. 🤠🇺🇸

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

You bet

@refurbansuburban 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for all of the information. Always treating us like family. Cousins, perhaps.....

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Our pleasure!

@fronniebealer7808 6 месяцев назад

I really like learning all kinds of things. I may never need this, but it is fascinating.

@dragonov33 6 месяцев назад

Love work. I can watch it for hours. Love your videos.

@donaldadams5342 6 месяцев назад

Very nice clear explanation of how you work your kiln Nathan. Cheers, Don from South Australia.

@Ubi_Qui 6 месяцев назад

nice seeing the trees there in blossom

@brucebello2049 6 месяцев назад

Enjoyed that Nathan, thank you, take care

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@ronnielloyd4514 5 месяцев назад

You ever notice just how loud tin is when moving it.

@justjane2070 6 месяцев назад

3 years ! Wow remember it being built 😊

@afos3462 6 месяцев назад

Thanking you again for a very good video, that teaches us all about timber drying. Sadly I cannot afford to get into sawing, curing and finishing my own timber. Or I would go back to my furniture making trade I mastered as an apprentice. Good video and again thank you, keep safe and enjoy the Easter holiday!

@ShannonFreng 6 месяцев назад

An advantage in having 'Mr. Kato' tracked, instead of wheeled, is that there'd be less bounce, in transporting the stickered lifts, to upset the stacking.

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Yes sir

@KillingerUSA 6 месяцев назад

Man thats a nice setup!

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Hey alright 👍

@bobwollard9105 6 месяцев назад

Springtime surely does make the Elliot homestead look beautiful !

@johnnysechrist6313 6 месяцев назад

Almost 60 here in Ky.

@petermccuskey1832 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the walk through on the kiln.

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

You bet!

@randydobson1863 6 месяцев назад

hello Nathan & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Nathan & Friends Randy

@johnaddis1022 6 месяцев назад

Good to see your Dad out helping, when you take your stickers off the stacks do you store them in a building or outside under a cover or does it matter? John

@robert.brokaw3829 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the information Nathan. Stay safe.

@billupstateny9151 6 месяцев назад

If the humility in the timber frame is not climate controlled, what prevents the stored lumber from acquiring moisture from ambient relative humidity ❓

@walterulasinksi7031 6 месяцев назад

The old rule was due to the tighter grain of the wood bring harvested 150 -100 years ago. The tighter the annual growth, the longer the needed drying time

@rolandrobles7974 6 месяцев назад

As always thanks for the wonderful message, god bless

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

You are so welcome

@markpashia7067 6 месяцев назад

CFM = Cubic Feet per Minute, so yes you are correct.

@strandbunnyx 6 месяцев назад

My lumber in holland dries to like 13-15 air dry.

@Z-Bart 6 месяцев назад

Seeing our trees all bloomed out was refreshing. We just got our first significant snow event of 2024. It'll be a while for the flowers.

@nickthrane4940 6 месяцев назад

Nice setup you got now buddy

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Yeah thanks

@brianwestveer9532 6 месяцев назад

Nathan what is your thoughts on solar kilns

@robertr4193 6 месяцев назад

Glad you got the lumber stacked off of your out feed table and got it out of your way. The cherry lumber you showed looks like you have some nice stuff with that. Was it some of the stuff you are handling for a customer as in they are paying you to cut and dry it for them?

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Cherry belongs to customer

@joebufford2972 6 месяцев назад

I remember when you built the kiln

@danielburgess7785 6 месяцев назад

Glad you put it into numbers. Math makes it universal. +1

@johnzink3309 6 месяцев назад

thx

@boooshes 6 месяцев назад

The work is never done.

@zevgoldman6769 6 месяцев назад

Will freezing dry lumber faster, slower or the same as heat in a kiln.

@alpinegeordie 6 месяцев назад

looking good my man, hey if you put the dryed timber on a pallet, you could buy a pallet truck and move it around the shop and make the space when you need it, or feed it to mr Kato if you need to put it outside on a sunny day! you're welcome. greetings from the alps!

@jarkkovanska6681 6 месяцев назад

Evening from Finland 👋🙂 your videos are very good 👍

@stuartpulvermacher6861 6 месяцев назад

What is the approximate cost to dry that load of lumber Just nosy

@gnewman18 6 месяцев назад

Maybe a dumb question but, can wood reabsorb moisture once it is out of the kiln?

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Yes sir.

@stanwebb3480 6 месяцев назад

Chicken house waiting to be finished!!!

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

True

@lilrockfromga5092 6 месяцев назад

You need to tell talk to Mike of out doors with the Morgans about a kiln.He is going to get one and thinking about a place to put the wooI look at both of y'all channels and enjoy them. He can also help you with that excavator.

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

I don't need any help with my Excavator, he is the last person I would ask for advice,

@billupstateny9151 6 месяцев назад

A few dings on the interior of kiln doors ?❓

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Fed ex shipping did that

@johnaddis1022 6 месяцев назад

@@OutoftheWoods0623 That does not surprise me, they are rough handling employees

@benjaminfarthing3849 6 месяцев назад

What do the baffles do?

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

direct the air flow

@benjaminfarthing3849 5 месяцев назад

@@OutoftheWoods0623 thanks for the reply!

@09FLTRMM77 6 месяцев назад

MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Confirmed

@robdeaton9910 6 месяцев назад

I would have parked the forks closer so you could slide the boards off vs lifting.😊 Love your videos and keep up the great work. Oh do you know anyone in SE Kansas that has a portable mill that would saw a Pecan that I dropped? It has a beautiful triple crotch and clear to the butt. I would say about 20+ foot long. Thanks 😊

@gslope1 6 месяцев назад

Once it's kiln dried, if you store it in an unconditioned building or outside, will it go back up to 15 - 18%? Does it become susceptible to bugs again?

@timbanwell1756 6 месяцев назад

I think “eventually” the moisture will go back up to ambient air levels, but it should be sold long before a significant rise. Plus there might even be some chemical change during kiln drying that affects moisture - ambient is unlikely to reverse this.

@ShannonFreng 5 месяцев назад

When Nathan determined it was too rainy, to go sawmilling (before he grew his beard): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TqmV_BzTuq0.htmlsi=AzmM3LinFhURYMd3

@alpinegeordie 6 месяцев назад

You just mentioned you could go to 150 degrees?, well you might be able to have a little sideline for your Kiln..... You could use it to cook matrasses and bedding from bedbug contaminations, they need 48 hours to die!

@inqwit1 6 месяцев назад

Love the trees in blossom.

@MichaelJones1527 6 месяцев назад

Great shoutout to Baldor. My son is an Electrical Engineer for Baldor.

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Nice 👍

@davidhensley76 6 месяцев назад

There's a Baldor plant near my house.

@davidhensley76 6 месяцев назад

Are you ever tempted to set a box of firewood in the kiln with the lumber to see how dry it will get?

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

🤔🤔

@williambridges6742 6 месяцев назад

Nathan !where is your hat out in that sun?

@stevehennessy3588 6 месяцев назад

I'm about to make the plunge into the sawmill/kiln world. It will just be a hobby sized operation, but I have trees and time to make it happen. Most of my initial projects are out-buildings, but I also plan to start doing some fine woodworking in my shop. I found out I have quite a bit of Black Walnut on my property and that's what has pushed me over the edge to get the sawmill and kiln. I'll be watching more of your older content to learn as much as I can. Thanks for putting out very informative videos.

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Good luck sir

@dmorgan28 5 месяцев назад

Thanks Nathan for another great video. You’ve got a nicely set up mill there!👍❤️

@OutoftheWoods0623 5 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@paulcasefarms9933 5 месяцев назад

I like the kiln. We sell all our lumber green or air dried. I sold the big mill to my son and we built him a nicer building with concrete floor but he lacks under roof space to store out going lumber. He covers some stacks with metal roofing but we screwed it to pallets so that he could cover/uncover the lumber with the loader. Works great. Thanks for the video.

@robertanderson2223 6 месяцев назад

Hi Nathan, I always enjoy your music track and content. Looking forward to your upcoming building project.

@stevenweir7236 6 месяцев назад

Is that kiln heated by gas or electric? What do you estimate for the cost of drying that approx 1200 bf? As always your videos got me wondering and dreaming about lumber.

@ron.v 6 месяцев назад

How many other viewers began checking their device's audio connection @10:30 wondering if they had an audio problem?

@PetraKann 6 месяцев назад

Does your kiln just circulate heated air over the lumber? Is there a dehumidifier attached to kiln as well? I am not sure how humid the air gets in your area but if the humidity is very high (say over 90%) the lumber will dry very slowly. At 100% humidity the lumber can absorb humidity from the air. Very dry air in your area

@lyleharkness-rv5vf 6 месяцев назад

Good video 👍 The 1st kiln I worked in was an end door loading kiln which meant you had to carry every board in by hand 😡 Don't miss that thing at all. Held 4,000-4,500 board foot. Took 35 to 40 days to dry 8/4 oak.

@robinredman5192 6 месяцев назад

Nathan, you're an excellent teacher. Thank you for taking us along on the many aspects of your life. God bless and take care. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.

@fricknjeep 6 месяцев назад

hi there nice work and a lot as well moving wood . best to all john

@OutoftheWoods0623 6 месяцев назад

Yes, thanks

@olddawgdreaming5715 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing all that information on air drying and Kiln drying. Looks like you will have lots of kiln dried lumber before long. Stay safe up there and keep up the great videos. Fred.

@timbanwell1756 6 месяцев назад

I thought 133 was really high to sterilise but then I remembered you are in Fahrenheit