Kim Dotcom is in mega big trouble 

if buying isn´t owning, than piracy is just trialing

If my money can't buy ownership, you ain't gonna see a penny of it

@@kaanozk golden words

@@matheussanthiago9685 this 100%. Nowadays i just pay for the stuff i want to support, not to buy it but to support the devs, say indie games and small software companies that make nice utilities. But if i pay i own it, old school style, idgaf about eulas or any of that crap (im not using it commercially anyways) so once paid i feel morally ok to "pirate" software that i already paid for in the case a service ceases to work or something like its happened to many prominent games and even some software. Also helps if you just dont buy those from the shitty companies that do that.

I give it all back when I die, so whats the problem? lol

That's only 5 Borderlands

based

500 million is huge for any normal person, but that's pocket change for Disney or Marvel. people are starting to understand the sheer scale of the gluttony of these companies and its gonna be hard for them to recover I think

It is to make an example outta him.

i think they just hate kim because he is too cool, why do they let mediafire keep working as usual?

Truth spoken, much wisdom in those words.

There is a P in Adobe.

No, the morally correct thing to do is not using those PoS software. The reason why Adobe can act like that and take dumps after dumps after dumps into it's users' mouth is that, said users refuses to use something else, no matter what.

@@lamikal2515 Is there something else to begin with?

@@motashaiye Yes, DaVinci Resolve, for example, or the Affinity software suite, wich requires no damn subsvriptions. A one-time payment for a lifetime license : BEHOLD that dark magic.

The law is not mathematics.

@@a46475 But, like mathematics, it should follow sound logic and reasoning to arrive at provable conclusions.

You can't prove the bank wouldn't lose the money on bad loans if it hadn't been stolen by the bank robbers.

just like it cant be proven that birth controls cost the world another 2 billion people

I remember once convincing my family to watch a movie at home instead of going to the theater because I had already downloaded the .1080p

All this because other people chose to use his service to host movies. Dude didn't even fucking do anything, this manhunt is disgusting.

You gotta admit, he's an impressive dude

bet he hacked

​@@manafronthe participated in LAN tournaments, you'd think if he cheated we'd hear about it by now...

imagine being a bilionnaire and spend all your tine playing COD

@@MiniKodjo sounds great

Lol facts, I don't want another DEI movie for kids.

Lmao

you should feel bad that he robbed us of maybe 1.5 disney movies with a quirky female teen main character we are robbed of true goyslop

Am I the only one who thinks that number is way too low for the amount of users on the site and the amount of movies watched on it? lol

*giggles in claptrap's jack-black voice*

Idk if you remember but mega upload never worked for the average person. Like THAT is what I remember about it

​@@cognitive-carpenter In what way? I only remember the downloads just taking forever

@@SrKinko only if you had no account

Disney thinks it's a flop if one movie doesn't gross a billion and does it fast.

More like the US got rid of a viable foreign Dropbox competitor.

wasn't Rapidshare first one?

Its not, the only real revolution that has happened in file sharing is the invention of the torrent protocol, mega(upload) invented nothing, they just used existing functionality

​@@suicidalbananananaThey didn't "invent" anything, but they encouraged competition there which let to the creation of so many great services.

​@@FeronomRapidshare... now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time

it's a common lawyerish thing to abuse the verb 'to be', i think they call it rhetoric they are highly aware that causing someone to die, even directly can be classified so many ways depending on circumstance, but out loud they could go as far as to say 'drunk driving is murder' if they just want the jury or public to feel a certain way no need even to have anyone dead, you don't actually hope for a murder conviction, you just have to bring people to think of the worst imagery you can be as loose as possible with definitions when you accuse: culprit, theft, thug, r**e, murder, crime against humanity (my comment may not survive these terms) do it when you try to demonise anything, not just the actually dangerous and reckless act of drunk driving, do it when a kid downloads San Andreas and there you go

No, only organizations not in bed with the State are criminals

Google drive too?! Let's go boyz

maybe 😈

lots of copyrighted stuff being hosted on github too, including the activation tools to bypass microsoft windows and office licensing

I believe they would remove the content and suspend accounts

They key is bribery... i mean lobbying.

This is capitalism baby

The stable diffusion devs failed to get the case against them dismissed, so it's likely discovery will happen and all sorts of things may be revealed. It may be happening, just very slowly.

He's not friends with the politicians that's the big no-no!

That's exactly right. It's only a crime if you don't first make friends in high places, and you bet your ass AI is heavily used in the "defense" and "intelligence" industries.

Money is more important to them than human lives

Most C** level "people" would flay kindergardners alive for a bit of recurring revenue and shareholder appeasement. Business is ruled by sociopaths and psychopaths

It's by design

@@joaoqueiroz361 lobbies' interests are more important to them than money and lives.

They still can't find who brought cocaine to the white house

It's similar to if I grow cocaine leaves in my back yard for personal medicinal use and corporations don't want the public doing this because it could cut into their profits by having their customers change to using natural medicinal produced produced by themselves, so they make it illegal. Anything you do that may weaken the power of a powerful individual will get punished in the crony capitalist system.

It's not theft. Duplication being akin to theft requires immense mental gymnastics as the root evil of theft is that you are depriving someone else of something they earned or made. Duplication causes no deprivation. The evil is absent. This quandary exists only so that predators above can make more money.

If piracy is not theft, then I can create a website where everybody can download movies and music for free, but legally. But even if it's not theft, maybe it's not ethical that people can get for free what was not free to create.

@@misbegotten3508 Yeah, piracy legally isn't theft. It's just copyright infringement. Which, who cares about that. There's no proof either that the company was deprived of a sale, because more often than not, pirates weren't gonna buy it anyway. The only way you could look at this as immoral is if you were fully intending to buy it but then didn't because you found a way to pirate it. But even then... boohoo? You'll be giving the company free advertisement if the product is good and, in many cases, piracy actually leads to sales that otherwise wouldn't have happened. There's almost no way to look at piracy as immoral.

Not only that, but the precedent it would set if they convict him would be highly damaging to the Internet and filing sharing sites we have today like Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. It also gives consumers reasons to not trust ANY cloud service if their files can be stolen from them by the government shutting the service down for everyone just because a few bad users were breaking the law.

"kiwi", how lovely

@@agonygoes More Kiwi than than fruit, those are Chinese! And are actualy called Gooseberries.

@@agonygoes They paint them on the side of their military vehicles and aircraft. Google it.

fruit one or the bird one ???

Good fruit, shit state

I ain't gonna. Intellectual property isn't a legitimate concept. It's just an unfair government sanctioned monopoly.

​@I.I.I....IoI....I.I.Iyou cared enough it seems to reply

You are buying a service, not a product

God this is the 4th time of me seeing this

@@billowen3285 So I own RU-vid movies now? or Steam? nah - seems like I didn't buy a service either

This is only partially true. A lot of people pirate because they can, is relatively convenient and is free. And this has been statistically proven in the video game industry, with a lot of people buying major releases that had Denuvo DRM solely because they know that if they hadn't, they wouldn't be able to play it for months, or even years. I don't care which isle you're on, but don't be disingenuous.

I recently pirated an album from an artist I like because the only ways he would let me pay required signing up for spotify, itunes, or equivalent services none of which amount to me paying him 10€ or whatever and getting a folder of mp3s.

agreed

@@traveller23e I remember that video that Weird Al did thanking his fans for however million listens on his songs that year Which equated to like, twelve bucks to him

​@@sujimayne Well one can also "pirate" cos a lot of movies, music etc are not available in their country. I'm from India and a lot of stuff isn't available here so "pirating" is the only option. One can say a vpn would be the solution but even then a lot of these streaming services allow you to "rent" stuff than own it. Also the quality of streaming services is pathetic and they charge full price and depending on the user agent, they throttle te quality. Louis Rossman has made a video about it. And for software, I was against piracy when I could own the software. Not now with SaaS. They can make any changes and render my software unusable. Sorry in the current SaaS model, piracy isn't wrong. If I am not allowed to own a product and yet pay a monthly fee and be at their mercy, piracy make more sense than that. And many streaming services play ads in spite of us having paid a subscription fee.

No fake news, no propaganda, no news channels spamming RU-vid with their unnecessary bs, boomers didn’t have broad access to the internet, social media was not as dominant as now, no Russian and Chinese bots everywhere. Good days

Big yaaawn

This comment is so old.

There once was a man named Kim Dot Com Who was King of the Pirates he had fame power and wealth beyond your wildest dreams before they hung him from the gallows.......

@@NJEH8TE The feds hide his real name, it's actually Kim D. Otcom.

Is this a one piece reference?

@@NJEH8TE u want my password u can have it i left it all there

@@NJEH8TE why does that sound familiar?

google drive is how I downloaded most of my pirated games. That is such a good point. Guess we have to start a lawsuit.

I vaguely recall there were leaked internal documents discussing kickbacks for people uploading content they knew was copyrighted. It's a bit hard to claim innocence when you're actively encouraging people to use your site for piracy. The entire thing is a joke anyway though, none of what he did was against NZ's laws at the time, our government was just very keen to suck up to the US back then.

I vaguely remember seeing a clip or two of him on RU-vid sharing conspiracy theories and also going off on US intelligence agencies like the FBI and CIA. He was saying something like he had used his hacking skills to obtain proof of their wrongdoing or something like that, but I don’t remember any of the specifics because it felt like BS. I have no idea if it’s connected to what’s happening now, but it’s the first place my mind went when I read your comment. 😂😂 I was like “oh dang, that guy was for real?” (I still don’t know if he is or not.) At the time I heard him, I wrote him off. Something about him rubbed me the wrong way. He seemed like a BS’er and an attention seeker. Being very overweight, having a Willy Wonka reminiscent German accent and wearing a black beret didn’t help him win any points with me either. Another possibility is that he has been up to some super shady stuff that we don’t even know about and the intel agencies just used the copyright thing because it was the easiest way to extradite him. (Kinda like how they got Al Capone with tax evasion.) Obviously I don’t know wtf is happening, but just thought I’d throw it out there for anyone who wants to do some digging.

> What crimes are he being charged with, exactly? eating a succulent meal

Google drive complains if you try uploading pirated content...

wanna know what is even funnier? piracy actually raises profit, as it serves as a silent advertisment.

​@@kaanozkyeah, like when the game was released to warez several hours before the official release. And when everything points back to developer 😂

Also South Park: signs an exclusive right to stream contract with HBO for $500 million and sends DMCA takedown notices to any channel uploading an episode.

@@jbird4478 what did you expect? They work for free? The message was about celebs crying about nonsense not about business deals

@@milliondollarart yes. People who couldn't effort it in the first place will distribute the gaming experience

💀

Happy nation living in a happy nation

in prison.

"What a week, huh?" "Captain, it's Tuesday"

@@tower9602 the fact i also thought that

Agreed, as someone who grew up in a very conservative Muslim country. Mega was my gateway/escape to the outside world.

Very nostalig indeed!

i was more of a mediafire guy but megaupload was cool too

which is a great question too, why do they bother mega so much but other sites exactly like mega, mediafire and others can just continue doing their thing as usual?

At the time, I worked as outsourced IT for businesses. It was not a good time. People forget how bad malware was.

Was gonna say

MEEEEE GA

Might've got a copyright strike, haha

"he costed the entertainment industry 500M $" ; the whole entertainment industry on that clip saying they just love mega:

send files all around the globeee

cuz AI made this video. its over.

@@panTadzik 😅 it won’t be “over” until you can ask ChatGPT to play a pirated movie and it does. 😆 That might sound bad, but on the bright side, it will ask you if you only want to see the scenes in the pirated movie where Denise Richards appears in a wet t-shirt.

Satires is always a reflection of the soul.

@@roguegryphonica3147 thats not satire

@@roguegryphonica3147 Its not satire, its an obligation

i think Louis Rossman said it first.... Hard to argue otherwise

I'd add games with Denuvo and those needing an Origin or Uplay account to the list

Yeah if Kim loses this, then people should file a lawsuit against companies like google.

The argument is: It was build for it.

​@@kosmosXcannonExcept Google runs algorithms to detect copyright material in Drive and also blocks account which has too much downloads

its exactly why the multi billion $ entertainment industry wants privacy gone, so they can demand alll the money for themselfs!

It wasn't so much the piracy, it was the fact MegaUpload ignored takedown requests and uploaders earned money based on downloads. All of their revenue was based around ads shown when accessing downloads and users signing up for a MegaUpload subscription to access faster/more downloads of pirated content.

I've known about Kim for years and had no idea mega came from mega upload lmao.

It is for now anyways... i've used it exclusively for a few years because it's affordable

Both Mega Upload and its successor Mega were/are generic cloud storage platforms like Drive. The government claims that Dotcom is responsible for the actions of all the platform's users. Similar situation with the Backpage website.

@@robertjenkins6132it’s also honestly absurd that he’s getting trialed in the US when he has never even stepped foot in that country

It's illegal to cost rich people money. Even in a legal way.

Free rides don't last forever.

@@obsidianjane4413 But your enslavement will.

@@obsidianjane4413 But wait... I can still watch anything I want for free to this day with ease. Maybe the free rides will last.

yes, unfortunately...

VC ran out and executives got wise. Shame, at least we lived through it

Considering how popular a website is, lots of people want their ad on there. I feel these are massively profitable since we can see a direct example in every play store app, like ever.

Ads make way more money than you think!

Megaupload specifically incentivized use of it's platform by offering to pay uploaders. So basically anytime someone downloads a file you had uploaded, you get points. Save up enough points, and you can cash out for money. They also, like many file host sites, had a premium subscription, which you could buy in order to bypass arbitrary limits such as how many files you can download in a certain amount of time, and the download speed, which were limited specifically to encourage people to subscribe to the premium (as it is, take it from experience, EXTREMELY annoying to try and download a game that has been split into 10 rar archives when you can only download one or two files a day at dial up speeds) and you could also cash out the mentioned points you earn for sharing files for a premium subscription. So between premium subscriptions and ad revenue, Megaupload made ALOT of money.

Subscriptions also, I remember having to pay to get proper download speeds

Premium accounts. Like with any of these, including Megaupload, you could only download a few megabytes. Unplug your router to get a new IP and such games were common. If you paid for an account you could download anything you wanted for a week or a month

False, you agreed to the terms the moment you purchased the digital product, just like signing up for a mobile app that has terms of service.

@@OzzyTheGiant your reply has literally nothing to do with my post. ToS don't use the word "piracy" or "theft" and I didn't say "piracy" is legal.

Arr matey but it does make it easy to have some fun with it 😀

@@HyperionStudiosDEIt's important to point out that we shouldn't normalize ToS garbage that stands against privacy and ownership. Piracy is becoming more supported by the day thanks to companies trying to normalize not owning what you've legally purchased, so their argument is even worse than the "you wouldn't download a car" nonsense

@@OzzyTheGiant 1) ToS is not the law 2) you don't sign in anything when you pirate

Thanks. Wouldn´t have found it without your help.

Helpful

Thanks a lot bro

important comment for sure

I count the blank screen at 0:00. 🙃✌️🖖❤️

I hate the licensing model so much.

I can't afford a mouse, I'm busy having the licence to my digital eyeball implant revoked because they went out of business and started designing subscriptions for heated BMW seats instead

"subscription" model for physical hardware is kind of a different thing. I would advice that to exist for as much as possible, its the best way to prevent self-destructive electronics.

This is false. It has been proven time and time again that people will pirate to not pay, even at the expense of their own enjoyment, just to save money, even if they have good income and are well off. There are pro-piracy arguments to be made, but this is just a false oversimplification coming from a teenager brain (you).

​@@benshulz4179 My 1980s appliances(fridge, oven, freezer, washer, dryer, stereo, speakers, headphones, amplifier, microphone) work just as well as they did 40 years ago for my parents, no subscriptions involved. Just solid hardware with a bunch of replaceable or easily repairable parts.

Provide a better service? That sounds like work! Better off using political clout to jail the competition

If you don't want people pirating stuff make it free

I mean, most pirates who know what they are doing don't do all that. They just download software from an uploader that they trust, and then run it through windows defender and virus total. Don't ask me how I know this.

@@abdul4515 oh, i know. but sometimes, when your beloved mother asks you to, you need to get a super niche, super expensive program. and so you basically fortify a pc, make a system wide backup and pray to all your gods that the suspicious treasure you've dug out is not a bomb. don't ask me how i know this either.

@@carmelwolf129 Yeah, I guess that makes sense. 👍

False. You agreed to the terms at the moment of purchase. Fake News!

​​@@OzzyTheGiant First it doesn't make it theft, it would make this a contract infringement, second, when someone steals from another person, there is a loss for the victim, which doesn't happen with piracy. Many products actually become popular and succeed because of piracy. Lastly theses terms of service are unilateral and disproportionately in favor of big companies.

@@Raphy_AfkI agree with you until you started talking about piracy benefiting. I don’t want to call you stupid, but that thought is. At some point, especially with pirating, someone loses a lot of money. That being said, when it comes to people in tech, it’s a matter of whether that person/company deserves to lose money. In this situation, yes, they deserve to lose millions. Companies getting comfortable with fucking over consumers.

@@moegreene3630 You may find me stupid but you actually reveal how uninformed you are. Small artists and indie studios can benefit from piracy, there are interviews where the concerned people admit it.

Piracy isn't stealing regardless

see stanley meyer, there could be technology which powers your car using *water*. Yet the guy was assassinated and the technology is owned by the (US) goverment, so its illegal to make your own (and ofc its never brought up for green technology, go buy a tesla) Technology for your good is technology against their good. "Consoom and dont ask questions"

What's even worse is all the drama years ago where the government was ordering that the data all be deleted before Kim Dotcom and his lawyers could review it to. They destroyed evidence after they cherry-picked what they wanted, before giving the defense a chance to look at it.

FBI did not raid his home as they have zero jurisdiction , it was NZ police acting on an Interpol request and a search warrant issued by the NZ courts.

@@Battleneter That's a good point. I guess it's more accurate to say that his home was raided _on behalf of the FBI._

And for a nonsense case, there is no clear legal line that Megaupload crossed but half the Internet didn't. Even ISPs cache and profit from sharing copyrighted content. If this action were applied with legal consistency they would extradite hundreds of thousands of people all over the world.

@@Battleneter Ok but why is he being sent to the US if he never even set foot there in his life?

preach brother hell yeah 🤘🤘🤘

The purpose of property is to protect the intereasts of coporations who want to make money from the intelectual work they controll, its not about "the metaphysics of property" its about what makes corporations money

It is not as simple. For example, an indie developer who worked 10 years of his life on a video game, it certainly was not free for him, and he deserves to put food on this table like everyone else. The most expensive thing is time because you can never get it back. And creating content and ideas cost time. How do you expect content creators to get rewarded for their work? Or your assumption is they should not? Then even this video on RU-vid would not exist.

@@Netz0 I feel like if you make a product good enough people will WANT to pay for it. Either way if someone really doesn't want to pay for a game (or doesn't have the money) then they will find a way to pirate, doesn't matter what laws say.

@@Netz0 Just because you do something for a long time that doesn't make you eligible for food on the table. If you spent 10 years making a bad game nobody wants to buy or play then that's on you. Also you seem very young so let me explain something to you. This video could very easily still exist without being rewarded. When youtube first came out there was no monetization for the first couple years and people STILL made countless videos and the funny thing? The content was better because people did it out of passion not for money. Your brain is rotten and corrupted just like the vast majority of kids these days.

if these greedy bastards would just make a decent platform with all movies and shows ever created and all new combined, I would gladly pay 20-30 euros / month, but they don't so I use stremio + torrentio + debrid for 3/month

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haha, same! :D

Yes, you're Correct!

i see

great wisdom

Always remember Copy paste comments if you don't have own input at all.

Ask the tribe for more money.

Do you think he’ll get MegaPrison food or just regular prison food there?

@@Cfb2987 They would need to bring in a manger.🐷

You mean Impel down

US is widely known for literal kidnapping of people who never had to comply with US laws

The US has the world's strongest military and can pretty much do what it wants. Ironically he'd be better off living in an enemy country like Russia or North Korea. Russia would protect him just to poke a stick in the US's eye and North Korea would have their own trial for him as no one punishes their citizens but them.

You can buy anything you want in the US.......simply by donating to a Congress person's campaign fund.

Because the US has the biggest guns so sit down and shut up

To be fair, RU-vid as a company was sued back in either '06 or '07 for hosting large amounts of copyrighted content. But it's not like Jawed Karim was ever arrested for it or had all his stuff seized. He complied with the corporate demands, Kim did not, so he gets the full force and fury of Disney's friends in the US government.

Found you 🙃

I'm no lawyer, so I could be very, very wrong, but the way I understand it, piracy isn't treated as theft, but more as a breach of contract, like hiring a couple dudes to fix your shower when it breaks and then just not paying them. That's why they only go after the providers and not the people downloading, right?

It *is* fraud. Besides if you choose to access the product outside of their broken services, that has no bearing on your original purchase, that's a separate transaction. They can't fault you for getting your product elsewhere.

he was in gumball 3000 too

He made more than one.

Saying what, exactly? "Please remove your signature from that thing you signed" ?

And then what would happen? Care to explain?

@@NotGarbageLoops Yeah, you guys are probably right. It's not going to change much this time around for Kim Dot Com - but political blowback does send a message for future decisions of the US meddling in NZ for enforcing their copyright law.

He's got another appeal so he'll have a few more years in NZ at least

Ah, another smart individual who can see the house of cards we call society is going to collapse anytime. Cheers.

tru legend

My guilty pleasure...

False, the owner agreed to the terms the moment they purchased the digital product, and by extension, that applies to the person who cloned the item.

@@OzzyTheGiant That is not how transactions work as transactions have no implicit agreement beyond the exchange of goods. Not even necessarily currency. So anyways, shut up. You don't know how money, transactions, or technology works. Your right to speak should be abolished on that premise alone, because your sentience can be highly debated if vomiting on the ground and standing proudly is your "opinion".

THIS! ... yep. i am a subscriber. mega has the cheapest data storage rates

@MCasterAnd - Finally took him down. NZ licked US of A carpenter's crack. A.K.A. Weegie, I think.

Not at all true.

@@jayarmstrong Then what's the truth Jason Armstrong? Bestow us with your wisdom Jason!

I don't think that he's still in charge of Mega. 🤔 He might had to quit due to the legal case or something