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You got some stones with some of your placements on here for sure. I may disagree with some choices but man, thanks for not bending to the typical choices and making YOUR list. Definitely a cool take to see.
I've not listened to their full discography, but as for now my favorite album definitely is Discipline. The Sheltering Sky is one of the most incredible songs I've ever heard, but actually every track has its purpose and its incredible moments. I also love the interplay between the musicians, each member puts his effort into the songs, and I also love the concept between it all, that discipline/indiscipline theme throughout the lyrics. King Crimson is a band so unique, so progressive that actually all the albums by them still have something to say
I'm with you. I was hooked at the outset by ITCOTCK, devastated by the follow-up In the Wake of Poseidon, upon which it seemed (and still does) that the group had emptied its tank. Until 1981. Now that was a bona fide super group. Talking Heads meets King Crimson and galaxies form. Thank you Adrian Belew. Thank you Tony Levin for filling the tank (unfortunately only to see it emptied again).
@@heatherperleberg7816 It doesn't really work for me. Virtuosity is great but I like a good song. There aren't any bands whose entire catalogue I like. Van der Graaf Generator are the ones who come closest.
The first time I heard Lizard, I wanted to destroy it with an axe. If not for the magnificient (and eerie) cover sleeve, this could have happened. Now my mind has changed and I appreciate this album more with each listening.
I also really love Islands, often an overlooked King Crimson album. Really liked your list, although I would have put Discipline higher, I really like that type of Post-Progressive.
A lot of people dismiss Discipline. Easy contender for top five album in the band's discography. Like Lark's Tongues it was a tremendous, unexpected effort that brought the band back to relevance
Lark's Tongues in Aspic had the best overall lineup of any crimson album ever, which is part of why everyone else has it as a contender for the number one spot. Easily one of the most stunning albums in the discography
1. Larks' tongues in aspic 2. Red 3. In the court of the crimson king 4. Starless and Bible black 5. Lizard 6. Thrak 7. Islands 8. In the wake of Poseidon 9. Discipline 10. Beat 11. The power to believe 12. Three of a perfect pair 13. The construkction of light
Four seasons 1. Larks’ Tongues in Aspic 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Red 4. Discipline 5. Starless and Bible Black 6. THRAK 7. Islands 8. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. Lizard 10. The Power to Believe 11. Beat 12. In the Wake of Poseidon 13. The ConstruKction of Light
The songs in there are damn good, but it has too many improvisational pieces that drag it down so badly. Trio is the only one I like, and even then, I'd take a structured song over it.
I have not listened to all of their albums but here's my list 8 Starless and Bible black 7 in the wake of Poseidon 6 discipline 5 Islands 4 In the court of the crimson king 3 Lizard 2 larks tongues in aspic 1 Red
@AJLizard has some of the best moments by the band for me and i just really like the overall feel to it Starless and Bible black and discipline are great but i enjoyed the oders a bit more
Your best intro to date :) I couldn't rank KC myself as each album will suit a mood, but it's really good to hear you enthuse about them. You have get ReConstruKction of Light with Pat Mastello's live drums - they totally lift it.
Three of a Perfect Pair has the concept of three sides to every story. "His side, her side, and the truth," according to them at the time. And Devil's Triangle is just an avant-rock cover of Mars, Bringer of War from Gustav Holst's The Planets Suite.
Great video! I love how detailed your explanations for each ranking was, although they're somewhat controversial(Beat is one of my favorite albums lmao)I really like how you detailed why each album deserved the spot it got
I really don't understand your ranking, but thanks for sharing. Here's my ranking: 13. The ConstruKction Of Light (1⭐) 12. Beat (2⭐) 11. The Power To Believe (2⭐) 10. Three Of A Perfect Pair (2⭐) 9. Islands (3⭐) 8. THRAK (3⭐) 7. Lizard (4⭐) 6. Starless And Bible Black (4⭐) 5. In The Wake Of Poseidon (4⭐) 4. Discipline (5⭐) 3. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (5⭐) 2. Red (5⭐) 1. In The Court Of The Crimson King (5⭐)
@@AlexanderTheWild My ranking has changed over the last two years so here is my current ranking: 1. Larks' Tongues In Aspic 5⭐ 2. In The Court Of The Crimson King 5⭐ 3. Red 5⭐ 4. Lizard 5⭐ 5. Discipline 4,5⭐ 6. In The Wake Of Poseidon 4,5⭐️ 7. Islands 4⭐️ 8. Starless And Bible Black 4⭐ 9. The Power To Believe 4⭐ 10. Beat 3⭐ 11. Three Of A Perfect Pair 3⭐ 12. THRAK 3⭐ 13. The ConstruKction Of Light 2,5⭐
I haven't read any of the other comments - yet - so here are mine. I loooove the way you started, all the ground-rule facts. 👍 And from there you just got better! The fact that I don't agree with some of your points is irrelevant, imo. You are one of the most pleasant people that I don't agree with that I actually enjoy listening to. You present your case well, with a good blend of brain and heart. And you make me go and listen to the stuff in a new light. WELL DONE! Keep it up. Thankyou! Have a good 2021!👏🎶😎🥁🎤🎸🎹🔊🔊🔊
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Excellent analysis. Nice to see your enjoyment and excitement around KC. If you are so young and having so much out of it, picture me (I'm 70) and a lifetime of listening to King Crimson.
this is my top 5 because i haven’t heard all of their record yet. I love all of these records honestly and I can’t wait to hear the rest 5. Discipline 4. Red 3. In the Wake of Poseidon 2. Starless and Bible Black 1. In the Court of the Crimson King Edit 3 Months Later: okay, update, i love king crimson more than god now and i have almost listened to every record of theirs in the short time i’ve known them. Here’s my list now. 10. THRAK 9. The Power to Believe 8. In the Wake of Poseidon 7. Three of a Perfect Pair 6. itCOtCK 5. Starless and Bible Black 4. Beat 3. Larls 2. Discipline 1. Red I haven’t listened to all of the rest still, or have started listening and couldn’t get into the records.
It's been a while since i've listened to King Crimson's full discog but here's my list off memory: 13. The Construkction of Light 12. Beat 11. Islands 10. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. Thrak 8. In the Wake of Poseidon 7. Lizard 6. The Power to Believe 5. Starless and Bible Black 4. In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Larks Tongues in Aspic 2. Red 1. Discipline
My list for King Crimson: 13. Three of a Perfect Pair 12. THRAK 11. Power to Believe 10. Beat 9. The Construkction of Light 8. Starless and Bible Black 7. Discipline 6. Lizards 5. Islands 4. In the Wake of Poseidon 3. Larks Tongue in Aspic 2. Red 1. In the Court or the Crimson King There was a period when Red was my favorite, but something about that first album is just too powerful. To me, at least, Court is so hard to top, even though they came with fantastic, ground breaking records afterwards. Some of these are really close to each other more than it may seem. That’s why they are such a great band.
Yes you finally got pass the frippbot Also here’s my list: 1. Larks 2. Red 3. Discipline 4. Lizard 5. THARK 6. In The Wake Of 7. Islands 8. In the court 9. Starless/Bible Black 10. The Power To Believe 11. The Construction Of Light 12. Beat 13. Three Of A Pair
Patrick Lauer 1. Larks’ Tongues in Aspic 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Red 4. Discipline 5. Starless and Bible Black 6. THRAK 7. Islands 8. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. Lizard 10. The Power to Believe 11. Beat 12. In the Wake of Poseidon 13. The ConstruKction of Light
"Starless" is the most beautiful prog rock song ever and that is enough for me to make "Red" the no1 album. 2nd is "The Court". 3: "USA" It's live but it has the greatest versions ever of some songs. 4: "In The Wake". 5: "Lizard".
Again I don't agree with you! I don't understand your choices but it does not matter! Keep up the great work you do! Thank you! My number 1: Red and my number 13: The construction of light.
@@NotesReviews if you ever get the chance, I’d highly recommend their record “The Mollusk”. It’s a lovely little concept album with their most prog-type tracks on it. I’d put it up there with In the Court of the Crimson King and other classics such as that. Love the channel :)
I really enjoyed that, you obviously love this music. I’m so blown away by you putting Islands at number 2 and putting Lizard so high as well. I love those albums. 🙂
KC have been my favourite band for around 45 years, with all the live albums, box sets, projects as well as the studio albums, it's impossible for me to pick a favourite as it depends on my mood. Listen to the studio albums in surround sound, it really opens them up and might even change your mind about your list. Good effort, I wouldn't even attempt this.
13- The Construkction of Light 12-Starless and Bible Black (but fracture is one of my favorite songs ever) 11-The Power to Believe 10-Lizard 9-In the Wake of Poseidon 8-Islands 7- THRAK 6- In the Court of the Crimson King 2- Beat/Discipline/Three of a Perfect Pair 1-Red/Larks' Tongues in Aspic I can't decide the first five places
liking it as much as i do, seeing you put discipline so low was an interesting take i also got genuinely curious how high up you had ranked islands as the video went on, since from my understanding it was generally considered a weaker effort, and after realizing it was going to be in a higher placement than red i was honestly wondering if you were going to place it above in the court of the crimson king (especially because of your comments on Providence and how it was better than Moonchild) i think i'll give islands another listen right now, thanks for the vid
I think I love your personal choice, notes! That's what I really think it's the best of your channel , you made this list thinking of wich are the albums that touch you the most Here's my top 10 : 01 In the Court of the Crimson King 02 Red 03 Larks Tongues in Aspic 04 Lizard 05 Islands 06 Discipline 07 In the Wake of Poseidon 08 Thrak 09 Starless & Bible Black 10 The Construktion of Light 11 The Power to Believe 12 Three of a Perfect Pair 13 Beat
Lots of very well reasoned arguments there. It probably won’t change my favourites (Red and Thrak) but there are definitely albums that I’ve neglected that I need to listen to again
Starless and Bible Black is still my favorite, mostly because of Fracture and The Great Deceiver. I listen to Discipline often and absolutely love it. Matte Kudasai, Thela Hun Ginjeet, Indiscipline... Red rounds out my top 3. I know - where's Court of the Crimson King? I appreciate the impact, the context and the originality, but it just doesn't grab me as much.
I finally found someone who can shed light on similar feels on In the Court. For me, I can compliment it the same way, the reasons it doesn't grab me is mostly due to the ballady theatrics and as a musician, I hate producers and Sinfield had a massive impact on that album. With most bands, especially in that day, the debut would almost always be a "producer's album" as record labels wanted to insure sales. By the time Islands came out, it's easy to tell what decisions are Peter's and what ones are Robert's - enter the Wetton era.
Mate, I hope you won't mind a few corrections to your statements concerning Lizard (I know, I know, critics everywhere), nothing personal and all that . . . The opening theme on "Cirkus" is played on the mellotron not a syn; there are no dragons anywhere on "Prince Rupert . . ."; I believe what you think is a clarinet is actually Robin Miller's oboe, maybe Mark Charig's cornet. That said, I share your passion for this magnificent album - nothing like it before or since. Cheers!
My favorite thing about your rankings videos is that even the entry on the very bottom is still talked about with praise and respect. For my money, I'd rank the 80's KC much higher but that's why they've got so much; something for every taste. Well, not every taste, I suppose... 🍻
My ranking from worst to best: 13. Beat 12. Three Of A Perfect Pair 11. Discipline 10.ConstruKction of Light 9. In the Wake of Poseidon 8. Islands 7. THRAK 6. Starless and Bible Black 5. Power to Believe 4. In the Court of The Crimson King 3. Larks Tongue In Aspic 2. Red 1. Lizard (yes I put lizard as 1 what are you gonna do about it)
I knew there had to be SOMEONE out there on this damned planet who would place Lizard top. What am I gonna do about it? ive you a like and stand defiant with you to the end as the horse comes howling for our souls... actually looking at the rest of your list it is as I would have ranked them. boom.
I don't have time to watch it now, but I'm sure your reasoning for every placement is well constructed and justified. 0/10, unsubscribed. (I really hope you know it's a joke, love your content my dude)
I like your choices (even not always agree), but the fact you put Islands in n°2, is a nice surprise. I love that album so much. I now have to relisten to The Power to believe, I think I didn't get enough into it.
I appreciated the fact that you saw something good in every album you talked about, regardless of ranking. KC is a personal experience and it it is not constant over time. It is a universe of its own. At the time, Islands, as well as Lizard, were seen as a great disappointments but time has changed this assertion. I just love Poseidon - it was the first KC album I bought in the 70s. Clearly, this appreciation is not objective... but for argument, the drums of Giles are just mind boggling; Fripp alternates between acoustic and electric guitars in a way he never repeated. The vocals of Haskell on Cadence and Cascade brings me to tears. OK, Devil's Triangle is not a a complete success... nevertheless, enjoyed your take on KC because you speak about how the music moves you. Keep it up!
Nice ranking. Although your number 1 is usually considered their best, you're ranking is not the general one, which I think is good. My favorite KC album is The Power to Believe. Love the more arabic, nature, section of the main title piece, and after that flowing into Dangerous Curves. Also love the end two pieces on that album. Another thing you mentioned was the beauty of Lizard, especially the bolero/peacocks tale. So right! I also dig Red and the ConstrukCtion. Another favorite would however be Discipline (also in my top 3). But what I also like about KC is that all albums (or series) have their own style.. Great upload. Also reminds me to re-listen to the Wake...
1. Larks’ Tongues in Aspic 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Red 4. Discipline 5. Starless and Bible Black 6. THRAK 7. Islands 8. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. Lizard 10. The Power to Believe 11. Beat 12. In the Wake of Poseidon 13. The ConstruKction of Light
Hard to rank their albums but for me, it might be: 1. Red 2. Larks 3. Discipline 4. Starless and Bible Black 5. In the Court of the Crimson King 6. Islands 7. THRAK 8. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. Beat 10. Lizard 11. In the Wake of Poseidon 12. The Power to Believe 13. The Construction of Light Ya know, I don't even feel that strongly about this list, they can almost all easily change. All I know is that Red and Larks are probably always going to be my 2 absolute favorites, and Power to Believe and Construction will likely remain my least favorites. I'm better at ranking my top 20 KC songs lol
I never thought I’d find somebody who dislikes the 80’s Belew era like I do lol, it just does nothing for me. The Devil’s Triangle is based on a classical piece called Mars by Gustav Holst from his suite The Planets. For me, I love how chaotic and avant grade it is, the buildup and climax is extraordinary too. One of the darkest, most frightening Crimson songs imo. If you listen to some 20th century classical composers like Messiaen, Bartok, Stravinsky, Varese, Schoenberg, etc you might change your mind on it! It might help you like Larks and Bible Black more too, Fripp was highly influenced by it during this period. I’m honestly surprised you love Lizard so much haha, it’s a favorite of mine too along with Islands. I really love when they do the free jazz mixed with symphonic/classical stuff, always thought it gave off Medieval imagery especially with that artwork! Love the serene and reflective vibe that Islands has, the title track is probably the most beautiful song they’ve done for sure. Interesting list! From Court to Red I literally can’t pick a favorite, I love them almost all equally for different reasons. There’s definitely nothing quite like King Crimson.
1 Lizard 2 Island 3 Larks' Tongues in Aspic 4 Starless And Bible Black 5 Red 6 In the Court of the Crimson King 7 Discipline 8 In the Wake of Poseidon 9 Thrak 10 A Three of Perfect Pair 11 The Construktion of Light 12 The Power To Belive 13 Beat
I think In The Wake Of Poseidon is one of their best albums. Cadence and Cascade is great and the bass line Cat Food is incredible. With Picture of a city giving that starts just shocks and it’s one of my favorites.
Don’t agree with all your choices but congrats on putting together a well thought out piece. I’ve been a KCrim fan since Court came out in ‘69. In over 50 years I have probably never gone more than a couple of months without listening to it. I love all the albums. Even the lesser ones lol
Imho Islands is the hidden gem of Crimson’s discography, it’s really overlooked and underrated, maybe because was launched in a very delicate and unstable moment of their career, maybe because is too melancholic, but is so melodic, so beautiful. For me the best albums of KC are the below ones: 1 - In the Court 2- Islands 3- Red 4- Lizard 5- Lark Tongues in Aspic 6- In The Wake of Poseidon From the classic era, I never really enjoyed Starless and Bible Black, too noisy, over experimental, overrated From 1980 I really don’t think it’s KC anymore, they lost the progressive rock torch, it’s still very good, but for me is a completely different sound, it’s like hearing another band
I love the early 80's K.C. It was very innovative and groundbreaking stuff...especially with all the modern electronic gear....cutting edge. Discipline is still one of my all time favorite albums!
Personally I absolutely love the 80s stuff. I think that kc has the best 80s material of any prog band tbh My ranking: TCoL < ITWoP < Lizard < THRAK = TPTB < Beat = ToAPP < SaBB < Red < ITCoTCK < Islands = LTIA < Discipline, but keep in mind I love each of these albums
I enjoyed this rundown, as people say it's your own choices, no-one else's. I see myself as a big Crimson fan and put the debut, Larks and Red at the top, with Discipline and Power next up - the rest are a bit of an acquired taste as they're a challenging band! But each of their albums has a unique quality of its own, often because the band changed rapidly between records - Court is grandiose, mediaeval and mellotron-drenched, Larks is crazy, experimental and unstable and Red is crunching, ominous and almost grunge-like (Kurt Cobain loved it, didn't he?) KC are just one of those bands where your favourite record changes, depending on your mood...
I found this the most head-scratching when I first watched this but this is the one video from your channel that I watched the most, especially when trying to counteract the opposite view of 80s Crimson. And that happened recently when a blogger I know very well posted in his Facebook group that the 80s Crimson is his Crimson, which is fine as it was ground zero that eventually led to his new career of writing about music. His post received an enormous amount of responses that seemed to turn it to a full-blown wankfest, some going as far to write that any Crimson with Adrian Belew, especially the 80s one, is more proper Crimson than other eras. Which led to Robert Fripp himself sharing that post on his own FB page and commenting about such comparisons, especially when one called the recent live versions of the band as feeding Fripp's ego! 🤔
1. Red 2. Discipline 3. In the Court of the Crimson King 4. The Power to Believe 5. Starless & Bible Black 6. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 7. In the Wake of Poseidon 8. Islands 9. THRAK 10. Lizard 11. Three of a Perfect Pair 12. Beat 13. The ConstruKction of Light
I like all their albums. I’m glad you didn’t bash on Construction like many other fans. This band is so varied that you can’t say their albums sound alike which is probably why I like them all.
All right, I can't resist. 1. Red 2. Thrak 3. In the court 4. Larks 5. Islands 6. Starless and bible black 7. In the wake 8. Lizard 9. Discipline 10. The Power To Believe 11. Three of a perfect pair 12. The Construction Of Light 13. Beat
Having watched a couple of your videos (yes, I subscribed too), I really don't know what you mean by "jazzy" and I'm not surprised the "right" side of 3OAPP didn't jazz you, cuz it's definitely not "fun". (Actually, Larks' 3 is definitely fun, although it ends on that skysaw smear you probably don't find fun). But also, on TCOL, it's Pat Mastoletto (ex of Mister Mister of all things) and Trey Gunn, who is doing his damned best to make us all realize there's bass-life in King Crimson after Tony Levin. His "Joys of Molybdenum" is really nifty.
1 Lark's Tongue in Aspic. 2 In the Court of the Crimson King. 3 In the Wake of Poseidon. 4 Red. 5 Discipline. 6 Starless and Bible Black. 7 Lizard. 8 Three of a Perfect Pair.
King Crimson is a hard band to rank the albums like that because (i) they have a lot of material, (ii) many albums have completely different musical styles, and (iii) they do not have a single bad album. My personal ranking of KC albums would change a lot depending on my mood on the day, and, although my personal list would be really different from yours, I agree with most comments about each one of the albums. Great job!
If you ever get a chance to hear Jakszyk, Fripp and Collins' "A Scarcity of Miracles", I highly suggest you do it. TECHNICALLY, it's not a King Crimson record, but it's the damn closest thing they've done to one in years.
Okay, I really wasn't going to leave a commet but... I've been binging KC album rankings and, being that I'm a lot younger than the others who ranked the 70s stuff rather high, I found your ranking not only different from theirs but mine as well and I'll still to a point pin it to a generation gap. Mostly because I'd place Construction roughly the same as you did whereas most others put it last. I'm the only person I know that shares similar feeling of Larks pt IV. For me, it's utter structured chaos until the coda section which is where it all falls into place and becomes easy for anyone to listen to: such monstrous composition flowing into a well comprised melodic conclusion, utter masterpiece. To those who say it's a weak song and place the Lizard suite higher are entitled to their opinion, more power to you, but Lizard is several separate ideas comprised into one and I dare you to compose a more sophisticated, complex and intricate piece than Larks Tongues pt 4 including the coda.
Also, just for the sake of further voicing my unpopular opinion, Lizard and Islands just make me feel yuck. No such things as a bad album, it's all subjective, but I'd like to hear why people would either agree or disagree with me or you. I just like having discussion
1. Lizard 2. Red 3. In The Court Of The Crimson King 4. Starless And Bible Black 5. In The Wake Of Poseidon 6. Discipline 7. The Power To Believe 8. Larks’ Tongues In Aspic 9. Islands 10. THRAK 11. Three Of A Perfect Pair 12. Beat 13. The ConstruKction Of Light
I saw the Boz and Ian Wallace version of KC in1971 and and found a King crimson club live at the Marquee club August 10 1971 on amazon. You have to hear the live version of Cirkus . Its freekin great. When the mellotron kicks in it gets Evil. Check it out Ed
I put Discipline much higher. This is the Album that I discovered King Crimson on. I loved this album so much I drove all the way across Ohio to see them live.
Discipline so low? Finally, I'm not alone in my placement of this album. Really not a fan of the colour trilogy. My full ranking: 13. Beat 12. Discipline 11. The Construkction of Light 10. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. The Power to Believe 8. THRAK 7. Starless and Bible Black 6. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. Lizard 4. Islands 3. In the Wake of Poseidon 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 1. Red
@@mattdrummond3552 I like this album a lot, but KC has so many great albums that I can't place it higher. It's swappable with S&BB for me, both are either in the 6th or 7th place. The top four on my ranking is just untouchable.
13. Construcktion of the light 12. Beat 11. In the wake of the poseidon 10. Three of a perfect pair 9. Islands 8. Thrak 7. Lizard 6. The Power to Believe 5. Starless and bible black 4. Discipline 3. Larks tounges in Aspic 2. Red 1. In the court of the crimson king
Plus the lineup makes are thus: In The Court Of The Crimson King 1969. IDK 1970. Islands Band 1971-72. Wetton Era (that's what me and my brother call it) 1972-1974. Discipline 1981-84. Double Trio 1994-97 (I believe). Double Duo 2000-03. The Seven Headed Beast 2014-15. Seven Headed Beast 2.0 2016, 2021. Eight Headed Beast 2017-18, 2020. Eight Headed Beast 2.0 (I think) 2019.
MY Ranking: 13. The Construkction of Light 12. The Power to Believe 11. Thrak 10. Three of a Perfect Pair 9. Beat 8. Lizard 7. In the Wake of Poseiden 6. Islands 5. Discipline 4. Starless & Bible Black 3. Larks Tongues in Aspic 2.. Red 1.. In the Court of the Crimson King
14) First half of Three of a Perfect Pair (I'm splitting this into two because of simply how different I feel about the two styles that exist separately in this, I simply cannot give the same rating to a song like Industry and Man With An Open Heart) 13) In The Court of the Crimson King (sorry guys, it doesn't mean it's bad, I still like it) 12) Beat 11) Starless of the Bible Black 10) In the Wake of Poseidon 9) Construkction of Light 8) Islands 7) Power to Believe 6) 2nd half of Three of a Perfect Pair 5) Red 4) Discipline 3) Lizard 1) Larks Tongues in Aspic and Thrak together, I can't really pick one. God it's so difficult to rank them. Each one is easily above 7/10. KC is and has always been my favorite band and I finally had the opportunity to see them live last year. I'm not a great fan of the new vocals, but it's still absolutely worth seeing them, if you have a chance after this pandemic ends make sure to catch a show.
