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King or Jokester? [Shock Value Ep.5] 

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We tested FIVE different suspension setups without knowing which setup we were driving, all on the same exact truck, in the same terrain. We wanted to know what setup was the best with NO biases. We were very surprised by the results!
Fox, King, Elka, Bilstein and Icon were all tested in this full review series shoot out.
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@TheThrill44
@TheThrill44 Год назад
Can we have a follow up video explaining why you would or wouldn't purchase each shock? Which you felt was best on road, which was best off-road, etc? Thanks!
@orionisfor7782
@orionisfor7782 Год назад
I actually learned the time these videos were released by the end of the series. Really cool series and a service to all the Tacoma owners out there. Reasonable to remember that a few things (custom valving, rear crossbar and hangers) probably make a huge difference. Adding more variables would also make a near impossible test setup. Thanks for this series it was really cool.
@Yotapuga
@Yotapuga Год назад
Yea hangers make a HUGE difference
@Poxyquotl
@Poxyquotl Год назад
I mean,, can't you adjust the stiffness of the suspension on most of these? Curious as to have they all would preform if they were really 'dialed in' for the best comparison.
@Yotapuga
@Yotapuga Год назад
@@Poxyquotl looks like they got the non adjustable 2.5 shocks to make it a better comparison of all of them straight from the manufacturer
@MrPiimpslap
@MrPiimpslap Год назад
​​@@Poxyquotl They mentioned in the first video that 99% of shock buyers will never tune them, so they wanted to compare out of the box performance.
@Poxyquotl
@Poxyquotl Год назад
@@MrPiimpslap shame you would spend 3k on a suspension and then not take advantage of its features
@BrandonBrooke453
@BrandonBrooke453 Год назад
Thank you guys for doing these series! I have learned lots of new things!! Please do more of these kinds of series
@freedomtyler8925
@freedomtyler8925 Год назад
This is the best video series I’ve ever watched very informative
@markparent3323
@markparent3323 Год назад
Thanks guys for doing a real world blind head to head comparison. This is the unbiased content I am always hoping to find so I can get educated on the next product I spend my hard earned money on. You guys rock! M.
@fouUili684
@fouUili684 Год назад
As an owner of king shocks on my 15 tundra for 5 years with no sway bar, I’m proud of them and they are worth money. I might invest in those bilsteins as a second set for when my kings need rebuilding. Thank you for doing this.
@DADVNTRS
@DADVNTRS Год назад
Awesome series, was on edge if my seat each day waiting for these!
@TacoBruso
@TacoBruso Год назад
this series was excellent, thank you for putting it together. I would love to see another episode where you wrap it all together. I have bought from Overland Outfitters in the past and love their service. I'm actually considering changing my shocks and would appreciate seeing final conclusions or recommendations. Either way great series.
@Mike-kr9ys
@Mike-kr9ys Год назад
Good test, well done. Thanks for doing this.
@zacharyhainline6220
@zacharyhainline6220 Год назад
I would love to see another entry in the series with the OME BP-51s. Not sure how that could be done blind but it's also a strong suspension contender.
@ADanNeedsAName
@ADanNeedsAName Год назад
I was wishing they included these as well.
@AlexM-np1cx
@AlexM-np1cx Год назад
They aren’t true 2.5” shocks
@lukekelly2590
@lukekelly2590 Год назад
​@@AlexM-np1cxThat's the propoganda certain manufacturers like to tell you. Are you aware that Fox 2.5 and King 2.5 use different piston sizes? Piston size is why they say the BP-51 isn't a true 2.5 There are 2 factors. 1. Surface area for heat to dissipate. This is essentially the external dimensions of the shock. Which BP-51 qualifies as 2.5. 2. Valve area to provide damping. Once you move past the primitive King and Fox 2.5 coilovers designs like the rest of the world has, you realise that there is more damping available than just on the main piston. In the case of the BP-51 this is through the internal bypass valves and also through the compression adjuster mechanism valves. So you take the 51mm piston (which is much larger than a Fox 2.0 piston) valve area, and add the bypass valves area and add the adjuster mechanism valves area.
@youngjet63
@youngjet63 9 месяцев назад
BPs suck from what I’ve read. Not worth comparing from what I’ve been reading…
@victorbarraza6005
@victorbarraza6005 Год назад
Great video series, guys! So much useful info, especially to those are in the market for shocks. Keep them coming! Maybe do a series comparing 2” shocks/entry level?
@artofwar1776
@artofwar1776 Год назад
Such a great test series! Thank you!
@ytrabbithole6893
@ytrabbithole6893 Год назад
Great series, like others have said it would be cool to compare the entry level shocks as well: 5100s, 6112, fox 2.0 etc and perhaps throw in a 2.5” shock to demonstrate how much of an upgrade from an entry level shock it is. Also not entry level at all, but curious how the OME BP51s would have compared in this.
@silentshredr
@silentshredr Год назад
Agree! This is where the majority of owners are
@spencerwarholik2904
@spencerwarholik2904 Год назад
Also curious about how the 6112 compares to some of the other close in price options.
@nickeisenbarth2011
@nickeisenbarth2011 Год назад
More of these test. Please. Loved this
@perchowski3021
@perchowski3021 Год назад
The shocks I've been waiting for to review!
@DBCoffroad
@DBCoffroad Год назад
You guys are awesome. Thank you for doing this!
@JPWineberg
@JPWineberg Год назад
Would love to see a list of best to worst knowing what you know now! Great series, can’t wait to see more!
@roadrunneradventuresmx3053
@roadrunneradventuresmx3053 Год назад
Great series good job guys!
@randolphbeltz6787
@randolphbeltz6787 Год назад
Good testing. It might have been more interesting if the stock shocks were also a trial.
@Moelester692
@Moelester692 Год назад
Yeah stock shocks should of been the control or base data
@AROD.
@AROD. Год назад
This series was bad ass !!!!
@silvermonk13
@silvermonk13 Год назад
Love this video series. Just got confirmation that my Tacoma should be arriving today so I'm super excited to start modifying. Seems like I'm going to be going with the bilsteins though
@kuyaa93
@kuyaa93 Год назад
I actually have the same kings 2.5 set up and oh my gosh I love them coming from a Leveling kit its night n day!! difference pricy but very worth it to me 🙂
@JD83734
@JD83734 Год назад
I’d love to see how a set of deavers in the rear would help this rig after seeing the rear buck in all the videos
@freidrichnietzsche6643
@freidrichnietzsche6643 2 месяца назад
Have kings on my 16 Silverado and wish I didn’t wait so long before mounting them! Awesome kit for sure.
@robbergstrom943
@robbergstrom943 Год назад
awesome series. subscribed.
@hockeymon1
@hockeymon1 Год назад
It would be cool to see the shocks torn apart now and also see a comparison of the quality of materials. Maybe a future season 2 of shock value? Locked offroad, radflo, toytec, and any others I can't think of.
@1augustub1
@1augustub1 Год назад
Great series, I would have liked to have seen the stock Toyota set up compared too.
@Absolute_Unit135
@Absolute_Unit135 Год назад
It would be awesome to see you guys test the Ironman 4x4 foam cell pro shocks on the 3rd gen Tacoma. Really curious to see how you guys would compare them to these first 5 brands you’ve tested
@OscarOverlanding
@OscarOverlanding Год назад
Thank you so much!!! This is very helpful and super smart!!! I really dig both of your channels and really appreciate your knowledge and honesty. I curious about your thoughts on the Ironman Foam Cell Pro 3.0?
@erice4611
@erice4611 Год назад
You should test out the Ironman foam cell pros.
@citizenpark2782
@citizenpark2782 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate you and this video
@nnannaokoroji8451
@nnannaokoroji8451 Год назад
Thanks for producing such an informative video. To complete this video, it will be nice to see a review of the Old Man Emu shocks. I am actually leaning toward these for truck I am planning to build and ship to Africa. Why Old Man Emu? The reliability is second to none. Second, they are built for the outback which has a similar climate to Africa. Keep Up The Good Work!
@SirEmoSushi
@SirEmoSushi Год назад
Love this, more please
@chriswoods3271
@chriswoods3271 Год назад
Would be great if you posted a recap video comparing all of them and either in the video or the description touch on anything else done to the truck (including tire and wheel setup). Also if you posted links to the products in the descriptions
@4xhoser
@4xhoser Год назад
Loved this series! 🤘🇨🇦 no Dobinson MRRs?
@PittsburghActive
@PittsburghActive Год назад
The series was great! Thanks! Sub!
@lucasvogel8497
@lucasvogel8497 Год назад
great videos!
@sausagegut
@sausagegut Год назад
You should do a video of a before and after a rebuild to show what a custom tuned shock should look over the high speed whoops. You can use my v8 4runner😂 I have kings 2.5 ext all around, TC upper and lower control arms and duro bumpstops
@benlewis168
@benlewis168 Год назад
Would love to see a vid with the dobinson MRR kit!
@njkomp
@njkomp Год назад
I am a little disappointed in the review of the bolstein 8112, and fox 2.5’s those were my top two contenders.. lol
@AlexM-np1cx
@AlexM-np1cx Год назад
They said the 8112 were one of the best ones
@fouUili684
@fouUili684 Год назад
They were the best at high speed off-road, no shock will be perfect at everything. Don’t forget you can also revalve all of them to ride better
@effinhaoli808
@effinhaoli808 Год назад
So the front needs a good replacement UCA like SPC Adjustable for several reasons, and the rear needs a new leaf pack preferably with hammer hangers…also removing sway bar at own risk obviously helps articulation ✌🏽
@FDESLOSSY
@FDESLOSSY Год назад
Hahahaha let’s goooooo finally. Yes blue is better!!! If you turn the compression up you won’t have that bucking and if you tune them for the truck it feels almost like long travel.
@patrick_jaq
@patrick_jaq Год назад
Will you guys have a recap video where you compile the comparisons and offer siggestions?
@vincefairleigh6899
@vincefairleigh6899 Год назад
I second that, I had no idea the whole time what shock they were testing… these guys might be awesome for sure but this shock competition is a huge fail for me, the king are clearly junk for leaking on just one test run, and the material is going to rust if you live in the rust belt..
@brentthibault3467
@brentthibault3467 Год назад
I’ve got the 4 door bronco badlands with the Sasquatch package and was wondering; do you think there would be a dramatic difference upgrading from the bilstein shocks that come with the Sasquatch package?
@Nodotaimza
@Nodotaimza Год назад
Can we please see a video from one of you on the falcon adjustables on the jeeps please 🎉
@levitate8918
@levitate8918 Год назад
You guys should test a set of radflos!
@tacotrucks882
@tacotrucks882 Год назад
I want to take my 2023 TRD PRO through course, I bet she handles the best!
@vincefairleigh6899
@vincefairleigh6899 Год назад
I wish I knew what order they were tested, what was best?
@bschuske
@bschuske 9 месяцев назад
I have Fox 2.5 resi with an add a leaf in therear. Thier sick
@ronlewis6766
@ronlewis6766 Год назад
Only thing that might make these reviews more helpful is to include the price as tested.
@imperialtekk9443
@imperialtekk9443 Год назад
And the what pound coils each shock is has on them.
@max7143
@max7143 Год назад
Solid review of all the brands. Would of liked to see the BP52’s.
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters Год назад
We did all the testing, then all the interviews in the shop, and then revealed all the shocks after. The magic of editing
@max7143
@max7143 Год назад
@@OverlandOutfitters oh ok, I thought you revealed the shocks after each session. I’ll edit my post. 👍🏻
@jurelle
@jurelle Год назад
I'm sad at how much better Kings was off the shelf than Fox but honestly not surprised King is taking more time to add the valving the stock suspension needs (Its very King of them🥁) versus Fox just adding whatever tune they think is best. Would've been nice to see the Fox shocks with the DSC adjusters though versus the ones without like you guys ran. I loved this series so much, thank you guys!🤘
@NWPURSUIT
@NWPURSUIT Год назад
Would be nice to see the fox performance elite series
@airakklein
@airakklein Год назад
They needed a level playing field, and not all the shocks offer a high and low speed adjuster setup.
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 11 месяцев назад
What is the size of those tires?
@imperialtekk9443
@imperialtekk9443 Год назад
I'm curious what pound coil those kings have on them. I'm running 700lb coils on my kings but I also have armor and lots of it.
@NWPURSUIT
@NWPURSUIT Год назад
I asked them they said all of them had 600lb coils
@hudsonms
@hudsonms Год назад
From the footage, looks like it needs to be dialed in a little better. Lacking some Low speed compression, and the front looks like it dives too much. Needs some rebound adjustments, maybe more in the front.
@vegasrider05
@vegasrider05 Год назад
Fox tuned from AccuTune!!!!! Can't beat it.
@tboe-cr8pz
@tboe-cr8pz Год назад
Yes you can, Kings tuned from accutune!
@lancef5636
@lancef5636 Год назад
The last set you knew they were Kings.
@Yoman1971
@Yoman1971 Год назад
Hi all! Nice initiative on the blind testing. Do to my area of off road we do no have speed off-roading as is more of a tropical Island in the Caribbean and is more of mud and sticky clay. Like your thought on the equipment tested if any at all would work for my type of off roading. Thank you in advance. 👍🏻
@mtbgeoff
@mtbgeoff Год назад
I know you said you couldn’t get icons with remote reservoirs. How would that affect the tests? Also, would adjustable dampening on any of these change the results?
@AlexM-np1cx
@AlexM-np1cx Год назад
Remote resi would mostly affect how long you can run without overheating the shocks
@stevenpeterson7234
@stevenpeterson7234 Год назад
Awesome videos guys!! I think I'll keep my live axle, much better all around then IFS any day!!
@BigDogsGottaEat1
@BigDogsGottaEat1 Год назад
Great series. I would also like to see how Radflow, ADS and Bilstein 6112’s compare as well. Been hearing really good things about the ADS suspension lately.
@bquade70
@bquade70 Год назад
Next up.... More affordable shock comparison!
@omalleyc068
@omalleyc068 Год назад
Will ori's be tried in the future?
@victorrial1890
@victorrial1890 Год назад
Is there any type of lift with those struts or stock height, and what is the wheel set up?
@justinvanbibber6234
@justinvanbibber6234 Год назад
285/70r17 KO2s over method 703
@speedegg6170
@speedegg6170 Год назад
DAMN. So if I were to buy unadjusted shocks it should be 4 or 5 (Bilsteins or Fox). A tad disappointed that the rear Fox shafts showed some oil residue after that test. If anything, maybe I should start looking at adjustable shocks. 🤔
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters Год назад
Fifth test was king not fox. Test one was fox
@speedegg6170
@speedegg6170 Год назад
Whoops. I meant KING. King Shocks. Dammit, Freudian Slip I was thinking about Fox. Meant to say KING. King of Shocks. LoL.
@speedegg6170
@speedegg6170 Год назад
@@OverlandOutfitters And EXCELLENT series. Thanks for doing this.
@jasonkimble8926
@jasonkimble8926 Год назад
Eibach , should be in
@mlb82gaming32
@mlb82gaming32 Год назад
The shocks on The table were different then the ones on the truck? So the oil they see is irrelevant?
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters Год назад
The shocks on the table were the same ones we used on the truck
@tbrick9344
@tbrick9344 Год назад
Which Method wheels are on that Tacoma?
@YaBoyJeezy714
@YaBoyJeezy714 Год назад
Looks like 703
@elpescador4963
@elpescador4963 7 месяцев назад
Yeah yeah yeah is all I heard 🤣🤣🤣
@silaslai5913
@silaslai5913 Год назад
Y didn't said test tire psi Trucks while how many lb in back What your test
@arkdave
@arkdave 10 месяцев назад
test ironmanfoamcell pro n bp51 sir
@1stGenMillie
@1stGenMillie Год назад
What’s the tire and wheel specs? Ty
@justinvanbibber6234
@justinvanbibber6234 Год назад
285/70r17 KO2s on Method 703s
@GhettoFabulous670
@GhettoFabulous670 Год назад
Awesome video! Looks like I'm getting kings now. Eibachs ain't it man...
@JamesBerkey
@JamesBerkey Год назад
If I learnt anything, Get the bilseins and spend the rest on gas
@sleeks9939
@sleeks9939 Год назад
I wish they tested the Bilstein 8112 or the Dobinsion other then that this was a great series.
@sleeks9939
@sleeks9939 Год назад
@@JamesBerkey and a sway bar 😂
@JamesBerkey
@JamesBerkey Год назад
@@sleeks9939 which ones did they test in Shock Value Ep.4? the 8100's?
@javin028
@javin028 Год назад
@@sleeks9939 they did test 8112s in video 4. 8112 front, 8100 rear. The 8100 in the video is the “smooth body” version. The bypass version isn’t mentioned, but performs even better.
@Yakplanet_tv
@Yakplanet_tv Год назад
Can you test the bilstien rear and kings front or vice versa
@frankvielma4102
@frankvielma4102 Год назад
What wheels are those?
@justinvanbibber6234
@justinvanbibber6234 Год назад
Method 703 in gloss titanium
@frankvielma4102
@frankvielma4102 Год назад
@@justinvanbibber6234 thanks
@chrisking6695
@chrisking6695 3 месяца назад
Funny that you’re saying Icon is better for off road than King
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters 3 месяца назад
When did we say that?!?
@jasoncostello3471
@jasoncostello3471 11 месяцев назад
Sportsbra's 🤣
@nickgood8166
@nickgood8166 9 месяцев назад
Loose the word 'ones' after 'these'!
@nastysoda9212
@nastysoda9212 Год назад
kings are outdated
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