All scenes of the 'Angel' Hospitaller knight from the movie Kingdom of Heaven (2005), played by David Thewlis. The way this character acts and talked he is considered an Angel, one of the most interesting characters in the film.
All death is certain. However it’s still important to if you can fight for what’s really right. I guess that’s all something that’s extremely difficult to decide.
God likes discussion and company even if He knows everything. He wants us to experience life with Him after all. He is with us right now. Talk with him. Or don't.
Heard from whom? By God, of course! I love this character more and more. Neither fear nor malice touched his heart, only an unending commitment to the defense of the Faith and the poor.
The Director's Cut is a far superior film, and I personally loved how in the theatrical cut he's just a knight, but in the Director's Cut he's an angel. That scene where Balian turns away, and turns back only to see a barren wilderness where seconds before the Hospitaller stood is a great scene. Trivia would have it that the horse's sudden skittishness was not planned, but just happened at that moment which makes the scene seem all the more supernatural.
I like the slight pause when he refers to Balian's brother "and this....priest." like he's disgusted to refer to him as a holy man as he knows what kind of person he really is.
Confirmed by screenwriter. He is an angel. They didn't even tell the actor the truth because they wanted it to feel natural, but according to him, he picked up on it, and loves the idea.
The retroactive angel plot is laughably stupid. It’s not just worse, it actually ruins the character. Maybe the greatest scene in the movie, “all death is certain”, is completely torpedoed knowing this man doesn’t even exist. Obnoxiously bad.
@@nickthomas9945 The entire film is about an ancient city, that's still being fought over, in the name of the same God, with a character that exudes knowledge and acts as if everything is as planned. Who appears out of thin air, twice; and seemingly resurrects the main character after he's beaten to a pulp. The biblical burning bush, igniting on it's own, twice......all of this, and you think him being an angel makes it bad, after so many spiritual references.
"You're an armourer, yes? An artificier, according to your Lord, and this... 'priest'." He really sounds like he picks up on that priest's scummy nature right away, eh.
I personally believe the Hospitaller is an angel sent by God to guide Balian and prepare him to Jerusalem righteously. In the beginning, The Hospitaller helps hone Balian's abilities, and when he starts to lead in Jerusalem, he guides Balian toward the deeper truth: God desires peace, not endless war and the Lord is using Balian to be a protector for both the Jews, Christians, and Muslims that are caught up in the conflict. At the end of the movie, it is then and only then that the angel leaves to go with the army as he knows that Jerusalem is in safe hands because he has guided Balian on the right path. Such a fantastic character.
Not to mention all the wierd stuff he sais to Balian, despite him being a crusader. To say what he said would be considered blasphemy in those days by the rest of the crusaders.
Most of his lines in the movie are dubious, you can take them either from an Angel or a faithful God's man. The incredible thing is, in both cases, the effect is the same: To bring a moral contemplation on man's religion x God's true will. Maybe more important than the answer of either angel or man, is the depth of a movie that brings the very question in such subtle, genial, form.
@@larsdewit6521 there's a book by Eduardo Spohr called The Battle of Revelation where the author develops the idea of angels being made into flesh to experience, understand, worship and record Gods work while they live as earthly beings. They go through the same sufferings and misfortunes as humans but always embody His spirit. You could think of the hospitaller as one of this angels, here on earth living and anotating the miracle, sometimes guiding and healing people, looking cool and all... sometimes knowing the horrors they will face, but toughing it anyways because its their duty and it serves the greater purpose. I think it's interesting
As a Chaplain of the Order of St John of Malta (of which this character is a member) I loved this line. It perfectly embodies the role of a Chaplain. Men do terrible things in the name of religion, men do great things in the name of faith. Its hard to discern what is faith and what is religion sometimes, but Christ never ordered death upon someone. His two greatest commandments: Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul, and mind. Love *all* of man kind as you would love yourself.
@@marcusaurelius3487 I joined through the ambulance/paramedic service in our country. St John provides most of our ambulance care, and I'm a professional Chaplain already. But if they're in your country, you can join by volunteering for them or joining their cadets and earning your stripes.
@@Assassinus2Both characters are mirrors of each other. They see Balian's strengths before he sees them. Siddig and Thewlis are also phenomenal British actors.
The Hospitalers were honestly the most interesting Knight Order of all time. The Order of St. John. ended up being up the last Crusaders to keep up the fight. They eventually moved out to the Isle of Rhodes and essentially turned to Piracy to support themselves. They were Pirate Doctor Knights.
Knigth Hospitallers defended Europe from Islam. They stopped ottomans in Malta and Lepanto. They protect Christians in the sea, and only capture Muslim boats. When they capture Muslims, they exchange for Christians slaves.
Do you have a source on that Piracy claim? Multiple European kingdoms had helped continue funding the Order of St John and Knights of Malta, and helped their relocation for their safety
While he is eating a date, his face is has excellent reaction, it is almost comical and admonishment @2:26. The Knights Hospitaller were very pious and honorable men in history.
@@fortis6258 That's not why he looked at him like that though. He know for a fact that God speaks to him. He just doesn't know how to listen. The hospitaler is confirmed by the screenwriter to be, an actual angel of God. Hence these compilations.
"I put no stock in religion... Holiness is right action" That is a fascinating thing for a divine servitor to say, this is great material for worldbuilding. Plus him saying he's going to pray for strength, implying that this is hard for him.
Christ did not admonish the Pharisees for being religious. He admonished them for focusing on their own rules instead of God's. Being religious is not wrong. Some people misunderstand this as a false dilemma of Sacraments vs good moral behaviour or charity.
@@genesisbustamante-durianKnow that I'm writing this from the perspective of a agnostic writer and dnd fan. But basically: This was a good portrayal of an angel that I can draw inspiration from, he outright stated that doing good is more important than worship and gave a bit of his own perspective on humans. Even outside that moment the movie (Based on this video, I haven't actually watched the movie) gave him a feeling of ethereal benevolence that I would love to recapture in the future, he is unwaveringly kind and goes through life with quiet confidence that whatever happens is god's plan. A very well done non-human character.
The burning bush scene being removed from the movie is unforgivable, arguably the most important scene in the whole movie and clarifying everything people were confused about during the original
there was so many chopped up moments that needed to be in the theatrical release, God only knows what Ridley had to leave on the editing room floor. To that I weep at that thought.
final release was unlogical set of scenes which absolutely didnt make any sense, only director's cut of this movie is worth waching, and it is really good...
@@maksmaso4741 That is an exageration. It just lost many other dimensions of the plot. The final release is great, but once you see the directors cut you can never go back because of how much more complex the movie becomes.
He always leaves it a matter of choice, at it should be. "What you do every day will make you a good man (pause, smile) or not." Always the invitation to choose, right or wrong.
„You go to certain death.“ „All death is certain.“ This is the line that stuck the most with me out of the entire movie somehow. Encapsules the character so very well.
The knights Hospitaller would house the poor and unwanted, lepers and the like, eventually they took care of ones who couldn’t help themselves and housed the sick. It’s where we get the word Hospital from.
Since I was a child and as a Northerner I grew up in the 70's going to castles every Sunday and the Hospitaller is the embodiment of a pure Knights code and one I aspire too even today. Love and Kindness are what keeps us human and nurtures our spirits. True strength is when others show anger and cruelty face it with compassion and fortitude.
Thats actually wrong. Hospitals come from your betters (The Muslims) who in their once great Caliphates and Empires had a significant amount of superiority in numerous areas. The Christian version is a copy. The Muslim; a heritage of their old pedigree from ancient civilizations. Who had mastered math, before the European apes could even speak.
The switch of the Hospitaler as a character between the theatrical cut and the director's cut is a master move. Well done in both versions, where in one he is portraited as a real man and in the other it let yo your interpretation of if he is a man or a angel.
He's more of just what real knights were than an angelic figure. A monk who studied medicine and religion to help people in need, called upon by the papal bull to fight in the crusades
When watching the movie I had no idea he was supposed to be a angel! When he told balian “what god desires is here and here and what you decide to do everyday you will be a good man… or not” hit me so hard when first watching this movie. It made me realize that I don’t gotta be perfect. Just be a good person everyday that’s enough.
Yeah it's meant to be symbolically ambiguous i think. Yes it could have been the proximity to the fire but you're not certain. So the question is will you choose to believe?
I only now realised the man standing next to Balian when the Hospitaler is telling them they're sailing for Jerusalem, is the guy who plays Lucius Vorenus in HBO's Rome.
Whats interesting to note as well about the angel theory when he talks about being anti religion it’s said that angels don’t have faith and have no need for religion because they know god is real
And that's not the point of Christian religion. Christ asked people to do Communion, "in memory of me". In addition we have a Commandement to keep Sunday Holy. People have this false understading that to be good it's either religion and 'ritual' or being a good guy and doing nice things. It's actually BOTH. It's also not the case that these are dead rituals, not in the Catholic and Orthodox sense. These people here are Catholics and they would know that. This is a nice movie, but full of cringe when it comes to approach to Christianiyy and the portrayal of medieval times is off, they were not as dirty, as miserable or as hostile as shown here. If they were, nobody would have survived them. There are good scholarly works and even YT videos online by experts who debunk many of these myths.
@@peterc.1419 Christ did not ask people to do "communion" - so-called "communion" took place at the "last supper" gee whiz are you way off base - as far as "medieval" times you're still off base when it comes to cleanliness - they may not have been as dirty as it is widely thought yet they sure were dirty compared to today's standards - besides - "its only a movie"
@@johnjerman3421 I'm sorry but Christ said, DO THIS IN MEMORY OF ME and this is what the earliest Christians also did. I know it's a movie, but then this is only criticism. Lighten up, don't special plead this.
The sword touching his head on the lake scene represents the baptism. Later... we come to know that this knight is long dead by the time hi comes to visit Balian on the desert scene. That's because it's God comes in hes form to guide Balian in his role (the meaning of holy spirit). This movie is all about metaphysic, the spiritual path and God among us.
Yeah that’s a lovely thought but it’s been confirmed by the creators he is an angel. Not a man that God takes the form of, but an Angel sent by God to initiate the beginning of the movie. Hospitaller is the one who convinces Balians father Godfrey to go find him which then leads to the opening of the movie.
I believe that the Hospitaller character is based on Saint Nicasius of Jerusalem. However in the desert scene, it is not the Hospitaller but an angel in his form - that is why he was able to suddenly appear and disappear at the time Balian's faith is most tested. Balian must have realised that something mystical has just happened. This is the spiritual centre of the movie. Later we see the Hospitaller dead after battle.
Watched this movie for the first time the other day, the Director's cut. What a great character Hospitaller is. Where Balian discovers his body, I wonder if it's meant to imply he died being some of the last Crusaders to defend the king with that circle.
In history, after the disastrous defeat at Hattin, there were 200 knights (Templars and Hospitallers) who refused to convert to Islam and were beheaded. I'd imagine that was the same fate as this character
@@TheDrunkHamster Thank You very much for the info! I love history and even though just a movie, I really need to dive into this era of history. A very interesting time in history.
@@TheDrunkHamster man it may be underrated but its pretty much my fave to learn about. So many good men, almost removed from history because of Christianity, and that includes both sides. I love that side of history because the true CRIMINALS of the crusades are the hungry religious leaders. The real leaders in those lands saw beyond 1 faith and they were all almost wiped out for it all
He is an Angel. 5:37 Balian was dead!! He had blood coming from his ears; severe head trauma. His finger tip touch revived him! It has to be’ all his quips and lines like: Balian: I am outside Gods grade. Hospitaller: I have not heard that. What else could he mean?!? He has to be an Angel sent to guide him.
The one of my favorite part of this movie is when the body guard of balian father told him “ I should tell your father what I see you become that I was very awesome” beacuse balian had learned about the other side of world such people , different culture, religion, and about being a good knight and helping people.
@@JA-ru3il im not a believer of such thinks but i have seen places on earth, that if god exists, he has turned a blind eye on them. starving children, poverty, plagues... if good exist, wich i do not believe, he is cruel...
@@peaveyst7it is mankind who is cruel. Our greed made the poverties, we murdered the people who were parents of the orphans, and while you may ask then why does God not interfere to help them, save them, protect the people, I don't know. In fact, why do you look for a 'supposed' God to provide the answers? Why can't you do it yourself? We created the monsters of the world, it is up to us to slay them. We are the instruments of both good and evil. Make your choice which one you wish to represent. I don't believe in neutrality. To do nothing is to accept the evil for what it is.
He’s 100% an Angel he shows up no horse balian lights the bush then second bush ignites so he looks back then a second later he’s looking for him but he vanished then he touched Balian and he awakes , he is certainly not a magical knight
I always liked the Hospitaler. He was a decent man who spoke plainly and truthfully, but always graciously, never resorted to vulgarity or belittling speech to make his point. I never thought he was an angel. I think he was just a decent man trying to do the best he could in the curcumstances he was in, while serving as the voice of reason and guidence to the people he was with.
Yeah he's definitely an angel. "I am outside gods grace", "I have not heard that", and how he just vanished in the desert and the second bush lights up.
Where he hesitates in calling the man who points out balian a “priest” is so good!! So good to show the divide between them despite both being technically men of god
You know....one of the critics I have heard about this movie was that the hospotallier talked in a way that most likely nobody talked back in the day. But what if he was indeed an angel? He would have talked that way to help Balian with his questions. After all, he was not one of them. He talked in a way so that Balian could understand.
So awesome that the writers confirmed that he was an angel, sent to earth, he struggled and suffered and influenced in accordance with Gods will he was charged to pursue This movie is so underrated
"Stare into the light until you become the Light " - Hospitaler This is probably a direct quote by God when he created him into an angel from a spirit. Here's why this specific quote drew me to believe he's an angel in disguise as human. According to Genesis , old testament scripture. Angels were made from the Light. Humans from soil. When Lucifer was commanded by our Lord to bow down to human creation. He refused in utter shock saying "im an angel , made from Light, how can you have me bow down to creatures made from dust and soil?" And thus began his exile from heaven along with 1/3 of the angels thrown down to earth at the speed of a falling star, to suffer eternity in hell, and absence from God's presence, which is a fate worse than Hell. According to Dante Algieri, the true punishment of Hell is the absence of God being with you, for eternity, worse than the fire 🔥 So definitely believe seeing as Angel's are immortal and made from Light. And Hospitaler quotes Light. Then he is definitely an angel. And the reason we see his body is because he disguised as a human. And his Light turned back into an angel after he dies
Lucifer wasn't exiled bc of humans he was banished because him himself being so Beautiful he thought her was better then God. In his heart he thought he was and should be praised just like God. Saying he will exalt his own thrown high as God's. That's why. He even persuaded 1/3 of the angels to rebel. He was close to God closer to him then most angels and he lied. He convinced "well I was close to him and he ain't out that he out to be"basically trying to destroy God's character like he a cruel individual and we shouldn't worship him and foolishly enough some angels believed but most didn't.
@@NecroTokyo That’s because God was just the Templar & Lucifer is the study! He is biologically immortal which makes him much more powerful than some Pinocchio people who need to come to grips with their mental sickness. Got people believing in a place that ain’t real. Heaven is a high from gaslighting. Hell is not knowing
Angels are just monks. Stop gaslighting. The light you talking about is narcissistic dysfunction from bald spots in your head. Just come to grips with reality.
Huh. This story is very similar to what's in the Quran. Main difference being our Book says Lucifer/Iblis was a different species called Djinn who are beings made from fire(not light). And he refused to bow to Adam because he thought fire is better than soil/clay. I'm just suprised this story more or less still exists in the Bible despite the changes over time. (E.g differences between King James edition vs others. Or translation issues from Hebrew to Latin to English over thousands of years etc).
He is an angel. look how he disappears after the second bush is on fire, and the horse gets spooked, as animals do in the presence of spirits AAAND angels.
I love how he almost has a little laugh or smirk when he talks like he's the only one who knows this inside joke. I wonder if the actor was told he was playing an angel.
Yup hes definitely an angel. They couldn't have been more obvious, the white hairs, the baby like face, the slight nudges to the hero in theveight direcrion, unwavering faith in God and the final " I shalk tell your father what ive seen you become" before going tobdie and meet God.
I love the certainty with which he speaks about god. Like with the fact that the wound will heal or not. Or would he survive the crossing. That kind of certainty about gods existence
He is aloof to religious fervor yet he simultaneously embraces his relatively worldly role as a hospitaller. This concurrent attitude of what I called detached devotion is what resonates with me.
Tip to top. Death to life. "Do not revel in this battle nor lose yourself in it's fury and consequence. It is but one battle. To win in all, you must always keep your head." That's my take, anyway.
It is said angels walk amongst us, even today. They are indistinguishable from a born human. So the Knight Hospitaller is not a far stretch when it comes to the belief of those who follow the Abrahamic faiths. He is an amazing character.
For anybody wondering it has been confirmed that yes he is an Angel. It’s not interpretation , he is meant to be an angel as per the directors cut. The original cut out all of the mystical elements of the character but yes he is an angel as confirmed by I believe the director and one of the writers.