@@SwornReaper He is right. We all understand what the title should be saying but it is wrong. Either "That Jerusalem has come" or simply "Jerusalem has come." "The Jerusalem has come" is simply wrong.
@@kennethfharkin Oh "the". For reason I didn't read "the" in my head, but yea "the Jerusalem has come" doesn't sound smooth. I guess that I wasn't very nitpicky when it comes to words.
“I will send you my physicians.” That one line changes the dynamic of the scene. These men are rivals, enemies even, but they respect each other tremendously.
@@fencius True, I also think that Saladin had the somewhat same respect for a handful of christians not only the king. Though i think Baldwin had Saladins higest respect.
Is it respect tho? It was said in a respectful manner, but it seems more like a confident/stern and intimidating line. I would've been shitting my pants. I havent seen the full movie tho, so I'm judging based off this single scene.
As terms have been reached, the term 'assalamu Alaikum' reaffirms the peace by wishing someone you were about to fight; PEACE UNTO YOU(literal translation of Assalamualaikum)
@@Maher49 exactly my thought as well!! Stupid wars for a stupid land in my opinion, here we are in the middle east and nothing has changed but the continuous bloodshed in our lands, unfortunately!!
"Withdraw or we will all die here" can't get more straightforward than that. He knows he's knocking on death's door and he still keeps his composure as a King.
The thing i love about this scene over other movies is that I can actually feel the scope of their massive army. Not a feeling you get in other films or in pure cgi scenes.
@@4cegla Yes, movies make historical battles look much smaller than they actually were. The biggest medieval armies could be up to 40000 men or more (salads army was actually 40000 strong). Imagine two full average sized football stadiums standing opposite each other in a field and charging at each other. It is hard to comprehend what that would look like honestly.
@@nathandodson3220 what is most unimaginable is that there weren't many long-range weapons and the whole fight was hand-to-hand combat. surely you could feel the earth tremble under your feet as these armies charged on each other. thanks for your reply
Get a couple hundred people together, in costumes, a few days of filming them march down a hill over and over again in different styles, composite that together and you have a realistic semi-practical effects army. The real magic, which this scene captures, is making that convey over the screen to the audience. They aren't charging, their approach is slow and methodical, and you can see the rear of the army over the distant hill even as the front approaches.
the guy playing saladin really set up the standard for this portrayal.I will never look at a future saladin the same.This saladin is the meassuring stick.Extremely well played
@@immortaljanus well hollywood has never been one to favor ancient iranian movies.the most we got was darius on oliver stones alexander.hopefully one day a director will grow some balls and make a film about the first major empire and conqueror lol
@Dawud Suleiman what i find interesting is that for all the talk in the west about human rights you would think that cyrus would get more attention from the west considering he was the author of the first declarion of human right laws in history when he decreed for all the slaves in babylon to be freed and that all the people within his realm had the right to practice a religion of their choosing.but oh well
@@Cyrusthegreat87 Why don't your directors make movie on cyrus instead demanding hollywood to make movies? Grow some balls first than demand others about something.
@@gfl1489 guess youre assuming im iranian or from that part of the world.which im not,just like ancient history from that part of the world and a fan of epic films based on those topics.eitherway dont know why you so angry but wish you nothing but the best.
He didn’t want his name credited, he wanted it to be mysterious and just have people enjoy it as it’s own thing. Made my respect for him skyrocket as an actor.
and all of the Seargents - what a fine day to march in the sun boys!! I think we should even march a bit faster, what do you think?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK!.....
As a Hindu, who has no stake in the matters... I too respect Salahuddin - from as much as I know from historical sources. I haven't read up on king Baldwin, but he seems like a decent fellow too.
Yep, then Ridley threw away an opportunity for a spiritual sequel for KoH by casting Russell Crow as Robin Hood instead of Orlando Bloom. Kingdom of Heaven could have flowed flawlessly into that film (although he would've been a French Robin Hood, I guess).
I like how Saladin offers his physicians to King Baldwin. It shows eventhough they were opposite leaders they still had morals and a level of respect for eachother 🙏 🔥
It's a nice touch movie wise. In reality (from what I've read), there's no record of Saladin offering to send his physicians to Baldwin IV. He did, however, offer to send his physicians to Richard The Lionheart when he fell ill. So I can see Saladin making the same offer to Baldwin IRL too.
@@retrogamesreloaded At that point in time the Arabians were for more advanced than their European counterparts and the scientific revolution began under muslim rule. The physicians of the Middle East were the greatest in the world by leaps and bounds. They were the only real scientists. An offering to send the worlds greatest physicians when hardly any existed anywhere else is worth a mountain of gold. It really shows the character of the Christian King and the respect he commanded even tho he was physically fraile.
@@retrogamesreloaded if I recall he sent fruit to Richard when he caught scurvy. So I’d agree even if it isn’t recorded it doesn’t seem to be out of character.
@Mitt Romney These days, where dishonorable and shady dealings carry no consequences and your people will celebrate you as a champion for tricking someone into trusting you? Nah. But you can ask your question to Richard the Lionheart should you ever get to meet him in the next life, and see what he has to say.
@@roland2864 I've only seen the director's cut, but I know that it's 40min longer than the cinema version. I've heard that the cinema version focuses more on Balian's character, whereas the director's cut paints a larger picture, and fleshes out his arc a lot more.
Glad you wrote that! It's insane: While the Cinema / TV cut seems to not even be a good movie, the Director's Cut is one of the best movies I've ever seen (even if it's historically not THAT correct). That shows so much how a longer movie with the complete story told makes a huge, huge difference. Also the reason why I think that the final Netflix cut of "Outlaw King" with it's 117 minutes could have been much better due to the fact that the original movie was a lot longer, but Mackenzie cut it a lot more than initially planned - a last time for another 20 minutes, after he showed it in Toronto at the Film Festival. His first cut was more than 4 hours (240 minutes) long and since they released some of the deleted scenes, you get an idea how much better the movie with all that scenes would have been. I'd love if nowadays directors like Mackenzie would later just release a Director's Cut or Extended Cut like it used to be 15-40 years ago (f.e. "Kingdom of Heaven").
Never knew it was Edward Norton under there after all the times I watched this movie. I would always say to myself, man whoever plays the King is a real good actor lol.
@@jollyquinn430 Norton is known to be one of the most troublesome guys to work with. Hes not only a male diva but also a control freak. With how hollywood is right now depending on the production i dont even think thats ultimately a bad thing, as how shitty some Regisseurs and Screenwriters are. A very good and experienced actor could maybe force some changes for the better. But i dont know how much control he tries to take over and if its always for the better of the film or just for his own role.
Great scene. King Baldwin is portrayed as a fair, honorable and likable King that was respected by all sides. I think this is shown in this scene the way Saladin doesn't have any aggression nor accusations towards him. Saladin calmly and politely requests "I pray you pull back your cavalry and leave this matter to me" so Saladin clearly thinks highly of King Baldwin enough to not even consider the possibility that perhaps King Baldwin ordered these attacks. They just speak very calming and respectfully to each other even though it's a very serious encounter between two very powerful armies on the brink of all out war. King Baldwin is visually dying here, weary, suffering and yet shows his true worth to compose himself enough to respectfully greet Saladin and issue him a very short and simple ultimatum "He will be punished I swear it. Withdraw or we will all die here. Do we have terms?" Saladin is wise enough to understand the situation, can see that King Baldwin is close to death so he's not bluffing and clearly doesn't have any gripes about dying a little bit sooner than he's going to anyway. It's non-negotiable" terms" and Saladin wisely withdraws to fight another day when things are more favorable.
Actually I think Saladin is simply strictly applying Quranic rules of engagement here. If the enemy sues for peace, then we are ordered to accept peace Quran 8:61. During Prophet Mohammed's life, he accepted terms of peace with his enemies even though it was clearly unfavourable for him and his companions and very favourable for his enemies (treaty of hudiaybiyyah). But, peace is peace.
Excellent, excellent analysis and you're absolutely right. Later in the film he states his reasoning for withdrawing was for strategic purposes, which is likely true. But on a deeper level he understood fully that the king before him has no qualms whatsoever with dying, considering he was already mostly dead. Baldwin the IV and Salah ad-Dinn by all account were such men, who likely have shown each other similarl courtesies.
It’s bias to the crusaders since it’s a western movie.. Feels sad seeing ppl depending on movies and not on real historical records.. There’s no comparison between the two leaders! One is a great leader who eradicated injustice and the invasion in his land, and he is known for his tolerance when he gave amnesty to his enemies after defeating them.. And the other leader is a murderer, thief who causes mischief in the lands and gets defeated..
Baldwin (to Saladin): "I pray you'll retire unharmed to Damascus." Trivia: The actor that played Saladin, Ghassan Massoud, was born in Damascus, Syria.
It does look spectacular but tbh, this wasn't a meaningful military formation, just a horde of men and horses. Military formations were used for a reason.
@@andrewg.carvill4596 Old French would have been his native language as a Frankish Nobleman. He likely spoke Latin too, and had a good grasp of Arabic and Greek also.
The battle/army scenes in this movie are still better than movies made more recently. The arrows flying through the air in the jerusalem battle, the dust cloud in the desert as the christian army falls apart from dehydration. One of my childhood favorites.
back then people know how to shoot from bow. in real life. 2021: ONLY green screen because why to make long fighting scene. people could act bad, long action or just get sick. better give it to photoshop dude and he solo can do it kiiiiinda good.
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this is one of the greatest scenes in all cinema, two great kings meet each other on the battlefield and discuss with mutual respect for a positive outcome, very admirable
One of the best movies I've ever watched. I thoroughly enjoyed ever minute of the 3 hours this movie has. If you have not seen it yet, you are missing out.
Yes, watch the directors cut which is much better as it fills in plot points and character development. And if you ever watch Alexander make sure it’s the definitive cut. Again much better constructed and development of character and plot.
In the Director's Cut, the advancing army of knights is pretending to ride horses while being followed by servants banging coconut halves together, as Ridley Scott originally intended.
Directors cut is a completely different movie and makes sense. Too much removed from the original still a good movie though but after seeing the directors cut there is no comparison.
That's how you know someone's a strong and wise king. To be able to exchange afew words with another in hopes of peace between two different cultures and peoples. Even speaking in their language as a sign of good will and respect. Movies such as these are grand. I can never stop watching this
I rewatched this movie after returning from Jordan 🇯🇴 last fall. Most people today cannot appreciate the honor and respect these religions and their people had for each other through the ages. Something as simple as greeting with the other’s language, or addressing someone by their proper name - Salah Al-Din instead of Saladin - goes a long way toward mutual respect.
Love how Saladin trusted Balwin's promise without second thought, like its certainly will happen because he said so, when a promise of a leader was so valuable and trustworthy. Later on Saladin greatest insulted to Guy de Lusignan: "Were you not close enough to a great king to learn by his example?"
Yep, Baldwin was arguably the best Christian king at that time in the middle-east, he was just and good natured, respected and by his allies and enemies alike and loved by his people, only his mother, brother and the caretaker they bring with them were evil and Baldwin was dying and become way to tired to do anything against them. Learned all this in a book called Misteries of the Knights Templar
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@TS-zd2ud Is Jesus a god? Did Jesus say I am a god? Does Jesus know the unseen? Does God who created everything need a son? Does the worship of God need a mediator? Do you think that a priest can erase your sins and give you a check of heaven? I hope to guide you to the right path
John 1,1 -3 + 14 confirms the creator of all creation became human! = YHWH! as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
So much detail in one scene! notice that in start when SALAHUDDIN came, he only raised hand but didn't say MUSLIM GREETING (Assalamu alaikum) which means "Peace be unto you" When a Muslim say it, it means He / She is no harm to other person... SALAHUDDIN didn't say it cuz they came here for WAR but after Terms he said "Wa-Alaikum-Salaam," meaning "And unto you peace," .. Good work director, Producer and writer ❤️
Probably because Ridley Scott had as usual he does make deep dive into his films(have twists or second meanings not flat with first watch noticed) and hire arab/muslim historians who helped him. btw I have questions: does often cristian and muslim army leaders marched with they armies not ready to fight? and what really interests me: does musulmanians often sad this to cristian army leaders? if you don't know for sure you can tell your opinion if you have strong believe in truth. You noticed it right but I can say why Saladin did what he did. He know that they armies was equal in strength and he respected cristian general as he was equal to him and even defeated Saladin in his young ages . So why to fight good leader when can wait and win fool leader(spoler)? Maybe this even made him send his doctors (of course mostly for good). And I really believe that Saladin was on adrenaline rush and anger after defeating cavalry attack to start besiege and deal with Rene'd Shateljon when saw cristians, thats why he was furious and made his horse do these 360*, but his fast thinking saved his man lives and what made him great and allowed to conquer Jerusalem. what Ridley and actor nicely showed.
@@riyadmaherz2608 cristians didn't want to fight for it as it was not cost effective to send thousands to fight on equal with thousands who live there(better armor vs humans who live there+ horse/camel archery) . Too far away and too less to have, and because what we see in movie there was good terms to withrow(safe escape with honor and free to enter city to pray, questinable but possible) His goal was the city so he took it with little blood instead of famous battle where cristians probably should send another armies as they were defeated (but instead it was more like peace treaty walk away). So why it was a mistake? to besiege city and have stronger version of ''attempt to conquer or Malta''. Remember Ottoman Empire had apprehend on water to several countries; where I doubt that Saladin had anything even close (and you can even pick one, when they all could send they fleets) to Venece, Jenova(Jenove war ships sighted in Age of Empires 2). So you think very short handed and if you would Saladin you woudn't hold Jerusalem (as its kinda easy to take champion cup, but its much harder to hold). Real Saladin conquered and holded it. Think about this.
This might be a reason in a movie. But in real life, Muslims are not allowed to say Salaam to non muslims/disbelievers. Greeting a non-Muslim first is haraam and is not permitted, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not initiate the greeting with the Jews and Christians, and if you meet them in the street push them towards the narrowest part of it.” But if they greet us we have to respond to them, because of the general meaning of the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally” [al-Nisa’ 4:86] The Jews used to greet the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) by saying, “Al-saam ‘alaykum ya Muhammad (Death be upon you, O Muhammad),” praying that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would die. So the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Jews say ‘al-saam ‘alaykum (death be upon you),’ so if they greet you, then say, ‘Wa ‘alaykum (and also upon you).’” If a non-Muslim greets a Muslim by saying “al-saamu ‘alaykum,” then we should respond by saying “wa ‘alaykum (and also upon you).” The fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said “wa ‘alaykum” indicates that if they were saying “al-salaamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),” then peace will also be upon them, i.e., whatever they say to us, we say to them. Hence some of the scholars said that if a Jew, Christian or other non-Muslim clearly says “al-salaamu ‘alaykum,” it is permissible for us to say “ ‘alaykum al-salaam (upon you be peace).” Similarly it is not permissible to initiate a greeting such as Ahlan wa sahlan (welcome) and the like, because that is a kind of honouring them. But if they say something like that to us, then we should say something similar to them, because the greeting should be returned in like manner and each person should be given his due. It is well known that the Muslims are higher in status before Allaah, so they should not humiliate themselves in front of non-Muslims by greeting them first. So, in conclusion, it is not permissible for us to greet non-Muslims first, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade that, and because this is a humiliation for the Muslim when he starts to honour a non-Muslim. The Muslim is higher in status before Allaah, so he should not humiliate himself in this manner. But if we are greeted then we should return the greeting in similar terms. Similarly it is not permissible for us to greet them first with words such as Ahlan wa sahlan (welcome), Marhaban (hello) and so on, because that is a kind of honouring them, so it is like initiating the greeting of salaams with them. Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 3/33. If there is a need to greet a kaafir first, there is no sin in that, but it should be something other than the greeting of salaam, such as saying Ahlan wa sahlan or How are you, etc. In that case the greeting is for a reason, not to honour him. See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 25/168. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Zaad al-Ma’aad (2/424), concerning greeting a kaafir first: A group of scholars said: It is permissible to greet him first if that serves a purpose, or for fear of his harm, or because of blood ties, or for a reason that requires that. And Allaah knows best.
I love this movie. The soundtrack is superb. It's actually one of the reasons why I fell in love with film music scoring. Also, this encounter between Salahuddin and King Baldwin is one of the most iconic scenes I've seen in a movie. The weight of silence between each word spoken ... it's chill-inducing.
Both King Baldwin and Saladin were great men! You can see their quality in this scene! Respect and humility shown even among enemies! Ridley Scott showcases this beautifully!
@@hammiehamster9933 if i not mistake, this movie take from the real history.. And we know most character in that movie is real.. Especially for salahuddin, the conquerors 2/3 or earth..
Baldwin iv and Salahuddin, the kings who can literally bring world peace. No one could take their place after them. Legacies to be lived for centuries.
Saladdin comes across as an intellectual who doesnt let his religious views turn him into a fanatic. That is probably why he won all those victories against western armies.
@@dudsulugulugan7639 But that's thing my friend, he follow the teachings of Islam and speaking as a Muslim myself that's how we follow the example of Prophet Muhammad PBUH mannerism and humbleness
@@redhakiim789 He comes across as a pragmatist instead of an ideological fanatic. Then again Egyptians have always been a race apart from their arabian brothers as Egyptians have always been more cosmopolitan.
Every time I see this scene I say "WOW". This looks so... massive? And this respect from both leaders to each other - never get tired of watching this.
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
This movie really does help you visualize the size and grandeur of these battles. You can really see the thousands of men. Some movie scenes are supposed to be of huge battles but you can only see 50 to maybe a couple hundred soldiers.
yep that is actually surprising and shocking at the same time. Imagine that outside the movies soldiers went to battles like this knowing they would certainly die.
If you want truly epic scale, the 1980 Napoleon movie used something like 17000 Ukrainian Soviet soldiers to portray the great battles and proper square formations.
What a magnificent actor Ghassan Massoud is in portraying Salladin. Norton embodying a timeless Kingdom of Heaven is majestic but his true magnitude becomes apparent as he stands opposite a formidable antagonist, a true noble leader. I keep thinking of this confrontation whenever there is a discussion about leadership. Art becoming a moral compass.
@@Lxzaa you mean defeat a Christian army that's fatigue, dehydrated and under a idot king. If the winged hussars were there yep someone's going home defeated.
@@Chris-ub7no lel and if the turks with their jannissarys would be there…. We can continue thish to midnight. No one is superior then other one. It is the manner and for which price we are ready to go for something. As turks hold al quds (jerusalem) for almost 400 years amd not 1 christian or other religion could take it until today. Israel is a state, backed up by the strongest military power in the earth. And yet they cant own all of al quds. :)
@@Design--om2zx It was a gesture of friendship and respect between the two leaders. Sultan Saladin sent his doctors to help King Baldwin IV, who was suffering from leprosy, an incurable infection that affected the nerves, skin and eyes, causing disfigurement and deformities.
@@Design--om2zx What Guilherme Ramos said is true in general, however in this specific scene what has been said is due to the fact that Salahiddin saw tiredness, exhaustion in the eyes and posture of his opponent. Thus as good gesture, he offered his doctors. If you rewatch and pay attention to it, you may witness it.
THIS. Shivers and tears, although I can't fathom why exactly. I've just as much respect for Salah ad-Din as I have for Baldwin, but this is awe-inspiring no matter which side you're on.
@@OANNAAS The crusades were a product of the times. It is only a shame when you have contempt for matters of antiquity. There is no shame in history. Only the hubris and arrogance of those who think they know more than the ones upon whose shoulders they now stand on.
The Golden Cross ended up as Spoils of war for the Muslims, i believe King Richard asked for it and Salahuddin gave it, cause Muslims had no belief or interest in the so called Christian Artifact.
If you can spare a few extra minutes, then please watch this scene again, but this time, try to pay as much attention as possible to every single detail. If you do, you’ll be absolutely amazed. The amount of time, effort, and deliberation required to induce such an immersive scene, especially one that is barely over 3 minutes long, is an inspiring feat that is unfortunately to rarely seen in today’s cinema. Perhaps why this movie has stood as a great for so long…
The music, acting, visual effects, writing and the overall badassery this clip shows is but a small fraction of a true masterpiece of cinema. Despite having a mask on, Edward really shows his acting skills by bringing to life a king that even to this day is revered as one of the greatest of all time.
U didn't just praise the visual effects after watching this scene... This has one of the worst looking green screen effects I've seen, like pick another scene to comment this under lmaoo
@@worldsea6622 wtf are you crying about? Some people just NEED to hate for whatever reason just because their own personal lives suck and want to make everyone else feel like them. Get help.
@@GGdeTOURS37 *The stages of war have progressed from iron and spears to lead and ballistic missiles. And a general's experience is much more valuable than a soldier's. But to see your general going out with his fire arm and pistol, waving for you and your comrades to follow him as they take the position must be, at the very least, awe inspiring.*
@@SCP--fj2jr yeah true. but hollywood has a way of adding emotion to the story that was not really there. they have a way to 'paint' the picture that is not really factual but kindah factual.
Never noticed this before, but aside from the unbelievable/art like cinematography, I love the symbolism/foreshadowing at 1:25 of how Balwin's forces are under clouds and how Saladin's are conversely bathed in light. Such a beautifully put together shot.
Saladin and Baldwin were good men how didn't want war. They both brought their families out with them to Jerusalam and both their sisters paid of all people paid the price. But how is it two of the most powerful people in the world - pay for what a bunch of nobody peasants did to a blacksmiths wife? Since in the end, only Balian of Ibelin got any say in the matter.
@@TS-zd2ud This is where Muslim's and Christian's got out names for each other. 1. Heretic's because Muslim's say Christ didn't die on the cross - that God took his place and it only seemed like he died. 2. Christ is ever-living and will return. 3. Infidel's because Christian's have associated God Father of Mankind with Christ his servant. Everyone should be more afraid of number 2. They wouldn't be so concerned with 1 and 3... 💀
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Mine would be "I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers."
@@Aechellies read some books, Salaheddine sent his own physician, who was a Jew, to treat the Christian king. Thats the beautiful harmony. Your hindu/sikh pundits cant bare the sight of that, I know😂
@@secandar oh yes your so called harmony also included the Christian women's who were made slaves by Saladin when the city fell. Hindu and Sikh have no interest here we all know which religion still blow itself up to make a point
The last time i watched this movie was when it came out and i was only 10, didnt understand much of it but now im older and im ready to watch it again. Excited for the weekend!
As you can clearly see, Saladin is deeply concerned about the physical condition of his "enemy." This lowering of the volume as Saladin compassionately offers his doctors to Balduin shows what enormous mutual respect there is between the two.
Even though Baldwin IV was Saladin's greatest enemy, Saladin knew, that Baldwyn's reign is a guarantee of stability and status quo. Only fool would go for a war in such situation.
Absolutely classic scene!! The wisdom and courage shown in this scene is historically epic. I love the face to face showdown and this is what true leadership is all about.
The is King Baldwin the IV of Jerusalem also known as the Leper King because he was suffering of Leprosy. He was a highly respected leader. Leprosy was almost guaranteed death back then and he still served as one of histories most respected kings. He died at only 24 years old. To this day he is a symbol of willpower and dedication. We can see how respected he was in this scene. Even Saladin, a much older and wiser man, treats him as a peer.
@@mdl7534 you pay attention. Both king brought their entire army. It would have been an even match. Your "unharmed" comment is irrelevant on the argument. The christian king promised that the culprit Reynald will be punished. It was mutual respect that made saladin pulled back his army. It was not because of the unharmed comment. He offered his doctors because he saw that the travel from Jerusalem to Kerak put a heavy toll on the Christian King's health. He was dying. That offer was also because of mutual respect. YOU PAY ATTENTION.
@@Dylon1981 It would not have been even. Saladin's army was far larger, but the losses wasn't worth it for him. The physicians were indeed only being sent to aid the king, as he suffers from leprosy.
best scene ever imo, the gravity that Edward norton brought and the charisma of Saladin with his Saracen. Respect and Honor from both leaders for each other is tremendous, the gravity of their veiled but subtle threats and they have terms
Though I've seen the theatrical version a few times, recently I watched the director's cut version and I liked it even better. A specific note for the actor who portrays Saladin, he's great in this movie and I can't think of another face for Saladin now. Great movie.
saladin was a rare case of a leader being truly noble. he gave away pretty much all his wealth to his subjects, so mush so that when he died, there was nothing to cover his funeral.
his inspiration was prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who gave all his wealth to the poor and died without having a single gold coin in his posession. also he forgave most of his enemies who tortured him and his people when he returned to Mekka with 10.000 men.
@@Kinderlieder-Kindergeschichte much like a muslim family whom i used to live just round the corner from, the father was a very generous sort of bloke. i was out for a walk one afternoon, walked past his house, he was doing some gardening, we got talking. one thing i learned very quickly, dont mention ISIS in front of him, they made him extremely angry.
Babbling of middle easterners praising their leaders , you know there is something called al-dawla al-ayubia (the ayyubid nation) inherited to saladin's sons by him
@@ikhan10 No, because he was a great man first. You realize that there have been inspiring men and women, of all races, nationalities and creeds? Atheists, Muslims, Christians, Jewish... Their moral stances/personal journeys/scientific minds/heroic acts/artistic expressions...Their contributions made them respected, not their religious affiliation...🤔
@@ikhan10 I believe, there is no such thing as a true Muslim. Religions are designed in such a way that they can be used for any type of agenda. Islam is no exception.
Fun fact: when you google Kingdom of Heaven and look at the pictures of the cast, you will see every actor in civil or private... except Ghassan Massoud. He stayed in his role as Saladin.
Like basically all of ridley Scott‘s films, the extended version is awesome and has key scenes left out of the theatrical version that drive the story so much smoother. Not sure why that’s always the case with him.
I presume it's pressure from the distributors to have a shorter film that fits into the cinema schedules. A tendency that has ruined many movies that are far better in the extended versions on DVD.
This happens to many epic and long movies such as Lord of the Rings because some stupid managers think it would be too boring for the theatre audience with all the scenes so they cut them out to give the movie a faster pacing.
It's simple, they want you to buy the Theatrical release then a while later buy the extended version. The latter version was way better and they got me to pay twice lol!
Edward Norton is not even mentioned in the cast of that film in IMDb! And his performance, even with his face covered, is captivating! One of the most underrated actor, among the best of all time!
I am just going to throw this out there, Baldwin had to learn to ride his horse with his knees. He leans back a lot while riding which may seem intimidating, but in all reality he is so weak he can barely hold himself up on the saddle.
وَرَفَعْنَا لَكَ ذِكْرَكَ The remembrance of my prophet will always be loud .... The way of Muslims is to be faithful to Muhammad, to offer prayers of love in the shadow of swords. We have come to understand the meaning of faith. We pledge once again that we will protect the honor of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) in all circumstances till death All are but after the Messenger of Allah We will lay down our lives for the sake of Muhammad ... صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم
I saw this film in the theater right when it opened. I recall it received tepid reviews and didn't do well at the box office in the U.S. I personally thought it was magnificent, one of the best films in recent memory. The scale, scope, and production values were unreal. I found Orlando Bloom's character in "Troy" a year earlier to be nauseating. His role in "Kingdom of Heaven" on the other hand was superbly acted. The subsequent re-edits and extended versions of this film added a great deal more context to an already long and expansive story. This is a must see film for anyone with an interest in the crusades.
I think the movie suffered from an "Orly" hangover of sorts, to your point. Audiences had seen him four years running in more or less the same role (LoTR, Troy). At first blush, this just seemed like another typecast action film with Orlando Bloom's pretty face plastered over it, and in fairness, that's how it was marketed in the US. Really a shame, when the underlying film is incredibly complex and beautifully acted and shot.
To be fair, "Troy" was a shit script and Bloom did get to play opposite Brad Pitt at the height of his mega-stardom. But anyone who takes film seriously can't watch an american actor simulating a british accent playing a Greek God WTF
Magnificient film. After watching the directors cut I'm convinced it should have been a mini series. Too much story to compress. Saladin deserved more screen time.
two great leaders, commanding armies of thousands of hardcore soliders ready to fight and die for their respective faiths and for one cities. and yet, they would rather have peace than war. but there was moment in this scene that really shows you the character of both kings. 2:42 baldwin, someone suffering a horrible illness, starts to breathe heavy. his posture slips and it looks like he's about to pass out but remains conscious. riding out in heavy armor, in the desert, in his condition. he could've sent one of his generals for this but he knew he, baldwin, king of jeruselem, had to be there to stop a war from breaking out and punishing his asshole of a knight. this moment of weakness is not lost on Saladin. he sees that he is weakened by the journey and barely able to stay awake. another ruler would've pounced on this, killed baldwin, and used it to take on the christians after having killed their king. but not saladin. he sees he risked much to stop this war and instead of taking advantage, he simply offers him his doctors and baldwin accepts. baldwin then bids him farewell in the tongue of the "enemy". truly, these two kings shared respect for each other.
This is NOT A MOVIE but an amazing Classical Everlasting Miracle !! What a great depiction!! Every scene is a great masterpiece of history. I have a DVD and Bluray and love to watch with the option that shows history in text alongside the movie. I played this at a family and friends get-together and the whole group of over 50 just watched in pindrop silence till the last scene.
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Truly Baldwin the Leper is a good diplomat also by showing his force without a single fight by decieving the enemy that they are far away and yet his army faces the muslims in a surprising way. The king of Jerusalem nailed it in terms of the art of war itself.
I believe that nobody subdued anyone, both kings were wise and for that reason they preferred to agree rather than sacrifice their people because of a fool.
Baldwin IV had a good record, at Montgisard his small component of heavy knightly cavalry smashed an Ayyubid army something like 5x his forces. Saladin was forced to flee into the desert with a handful of his Mamluk bodyguard, the rest of his army killed or driven into the wastelands. Rightly used, he and his core of knights were something of a nuclear deterrant.
The director's cut of this film is remarkable. I get chills every time the haze gives way to the blaze of light from the enormous cross. The portrayal of Saladin was excellent as well. He was by all accounts a great, if begrudgingly so, military tactician who was known to show the mercy and charity God demands of his adherents. Stellar work by that gentleman.
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