Imagine foolishly leading your armies to a desert and dying of dehydration only for your enemy to hold you captive and show you they not only have water in scorching desert but ice.
@@anthonymelendez333 no, it's ice, they used to bring it from the mountains, that was a sign of power, specially in a freaking desert. I don't think that drinking a full glass of salt in a desert, would be a good idea 🤣
@@MrSamos1401 Idk I get the significance but that looks like salt , and the face he makes is if he drank something terrible, it’s why he said he drinks water for what it is
This scene is based on what actually happened when Saladin captured Guy and Raynald after the Battle of Hattin. Guy accepted the water in real life and then passed it to Raynald, who Saladin had previously said he would kill with his own sword. As other comments have pointed out, the exchanging of the water is part of a tradition that forbade Saladin to harm anyone who accepted it. When he said ‘I did not give the cup to you’, Saladin was pointing out that Guy was the one who gave the water over, not Saladin, thus excluding Raynald from that protection.
also In real life Raynold did not kill Saladins sister though he did slaughter the caravan just ahead of hers. Raynold was known as a pirate back then as he raided many Muslim caravan and even Muslim trading ships to gain wealth and this infuriated Saladin to the most extreme level that’s why he had him executed, but Guy never told him to do it. Additionally in real life though guy de lusignan was a devout believer in the crusade he was not stupid enough to actually intentionally instigate a war with Saladin, he knew he was at the disadvantage. In reality guy was Reynolds close friend so he was not willing to hand him over for raiding and he sent his army out because Saladin had placed a allied city under siege and he had marched out to relieve them, this turned out to be a trap and they were ambushed resulting in the crusader army being destroyed.
Not alot of people realize how deep this scenes is. Ice in the desert was the ultimate flex..he wanted to show how prepared they were that they can afford impossible /unnecessary luxuries. What more if it was a real necessity for war.
Not overt, but in comparison, when German troops overran Allied positions in the Battle of the Bulge, and the German officers saw the "luxuries" and supplies, letters and gifts from home that the Allied troops had abandoned, they realized that there was no way they could defeat the Allies.
Thats a common rule of chess...two kings chasing each other around a chess board is a stalemate...a King can only block off the other kings movement until other pieces close in
Existen bóvedas para guardar la nieve del invierno y conservarla durante el verano desde hace muchos siglos en toda europa y Asia....aún existen algunas en España que aún funcionan
Explanation: Giving water means safety. You don't kill someone to whom you have given water, those are the rules. So when Guy receives the cup, he passes the cup to Raynald in order to "game the system" and save Raynald from being executed, since now he has drunk Saladin's water and "should" therefore be safe. Of course, the cup wasn't handed to Raynald so it doesn't count, and Raynald is executed for his crimes.
I don't think he was trying to save Raynald though. I think he suspected the water was poisoned so he gave it to Raynald to drink first. That's why Saladin says "a king does not kill a king"
@@owenb8636 That doesn't make much sense, the crusaders were already beaten, and there was no one who would try to protect Guy from Saladin if he just sliced his neck there and then. It was most probably out of honor that Guy was spared and honor gave no protection to Raynald.
@BitchesKnowAbout MuhPatriarchy What part of Saladin's portrayal in this movie was fiction? Historians agree for the most part, he was an honorable and just man. The Saracens committed some atrocities under his command, it is true. But they were primarily a Jihadist response to the Crusader's treachery and war crimes. History likes to remember Richard the Lion Heart as honorable, but he ordered the execution of 2000 Muslim prisoners after sacking Acre.
@@jonathanbradley4896 there was a youtuber (i forgot his name) who did a review on this movie i was able to watch a few years ago, and used 2 or 3? References of muslim historian texts who were the closest to document the actual events. And they (muslim historians) described Saladin to be very brutal, very far from the character portrayed in this movie. The movie was even labeled as romanticized or white-washed because they did not use the said references. Its like how the samurai were romanticized to be very honorable etc, when in fact “living under Samurai rule” was terrible.
Same goes for Alexander Siddig to be fair, he portrayed Saladin's henchman Imad, perfectly. The portrayal of both Imad and Salahuddin, gives a good credibility of the fine development of the Islamic states and hierarchy. They were not 'bloody savages' at all, they were incredibly respectable people! Faithful, calculating, intelligent, humane.... The complete opposite of the honorless brute that was Raynald of Chatillon. Ghassan Massoud played the part of Salahuddin, excellently! Salahuddin was perhaps thé greatest ruler in all of Islam, perhaps seconded by Fatih II the Conqueror, who besieged Constantinople and séized the city. As far as i know, Salahuddin is still being spoken of as one of, if not THE noblest of all rulers, Islam has ever known. Massoud gave a masterclass in that honor! Its underlined again in one of the final scenes: 'I am not those men! I am Salahuddin, Salahuddin!"
@@thegreenreaper6660 Saladin got all his power and education from the turks of zengid dynasty in syria. And in return saladin backstabbed the turks and stole our lands and egypt. he wasnt an angel
@@thegreenreaper6660 And since he was kurd he always wanted to destroy the turkish influence but just 250 years later we gained all of saladin’s and crusader’s lands
@@fraserparsons3813 yeah, the levant is not a desert actually, it starts being a desert when going eastwards and south-eastwards(the way to irak and the arabian peninsula). The levant has mediterranean weather same weather as in south europe and north africa(except for libya and egypt that are deserts).
@@EzraB123 Disagree, you are only talking about the central/north. I've been to Eilat in the south and that area is DEFINITELY desert and hot as hell. Reminds me of Nevada. Central/Northern Israel in Galilee reminds me of Colorado.
@@frankus1594 wtf u talking about, everybody trashes on religion these days, this movie is historically inaccurate and the lead actor was not up to par with the rest of the cast
Baldwin: “The whole world is chess; any move can be the death of you!” Saladdin: “A king does not kill a king; were you not close enough to a great king, to learn from his example?” The chess analogies from both kings was excellent! 2 great kings with a healthy fear of each other’s power and wits 🔥
Well, while vengeance is not a pure motive it is a strong motive. Especially to right someone who murdered a woman, who might have been pure and gentle. If she were a mother then the case for justice is even stronger.
...."A king does not kill another king,were you not close enough to your own king to not learn from his example"........... that was some serious burn!!!
@@BillViolator acts I and II are better fleshed out, and the story feels more complete. More scenes pertaining to Bailin's relationship with his father, with Cybilla, with the King. More scenes on his time at Europe, his travel to the Holy Land and his first days as a Baron. More scenes that purport medieval life, that although may seem like filler, would be a joy for history fans to see. In short, the theatrical release feels like a bad abridged version after you've seen the director's cut.
I love the way Sal just shakes his head after adressing Guy. 'What an idiot...' he must have been thinking. Loses his whole army, gets captured because of arrogance and stupidity.
Moral to this story: The practice of good manners can never be overstated. Be polite & respectful to your host... especially when they have big-ass swords.😳
Lol! I doubt good manners would have saved Raynald at this point, but at least Imad al Din would remark how Raynald had faced death with dignity and courage.
It's a marvelous scene because everything that happens with the characters, Raynald knows he is already a death man but he wants to end his thirst before that, Guy is just standing there, humilliated, he just lost the war he wanted so badly. And Saladin shows how a great man he is, he avenges his sister in a brutal but effective way and he show how such a bad king Guy was
@@mohamedazab8904 he wasn't able to keep that dammed brother of his in control, and when he became king foolishly decides to go to war, even though it had been obvious it could not be won. He is the reason why Jerusalem fell, who knows how things could be now if it had not happened.
@@Toix Actually you could argue it was the Templar grand Master Gerard de ridefort who lost them the war when he went into Guys tent at night and convinced him to march out against Saladin instead of take a defensive position where they had a chance to win. Basically every other noble agreed to hold their ground until Guy was convinced by Gerard.
This was a righteous killing because that repugnant sod, had virtually no respect for honor. His brother was equally as culpable for handing him the water in the first place, a direct insult to the mercy gesture shown him by Saladin. He was quite fortunate Saladin was a man who abided by a strict code of honor and was a man of principle, unlike the blood thirsty glutton he was. This movie was a study in character and how men regardless of different cultures and backgrounds could conduct themselves like honorable men with one another and LIVE by their principles without compromising their integrity. Excellent period piece and I for one feel we need MORE of these types of movies.
Guy de Lusignon would have butchered évery Saracene, including Salahuddin, like the beasts that conquered Jerusalem, Antioch, and every other crusader-city, had put évery man woman and child to the sword! Salahuddin was nót those men! He was Salahuddin. Salahuddin!
@@thegreenreaper6660 It's amazing how many honorable men existed in Salahuddin's time. Saladin, King Baldwin, and Richard the Lionheart. All of them honorable men.
You know what I especially like about this movie, it's Baldwin and Saladin. Both of them are straightforward, leading their armies, are standing up for their believes, are honourable and respectful. So, Baldwin headed straightforward to punish Rainald and so did Saladin, punished that man who killed his sister. It's the similarities between the two for me.
He didn’t kill him for personal vengeance . He would have killed him before that when Baldwin interceded and punished reynault. Reynault used to attack Muslim caravans without any reason and murder them . He had crossed his limits of tyranny.
@@lateshpatil5307 Bro abu bakr is the best man that have ever lived after the prophets of god he was the best companion of prophet mohammad peace and prayers be upon him there is no way to compare him with salah aldeen. Basic knowledge in islam could tell you that.
@@lateshpatil5307 and those historical figures mean a lot to people, especially abu bakr. But people like you probably don’t understand they have done for us and future generations
Real story is the renald looted Muslim travellers and challenge them to call Prophet Muhammad SAWS to help them and insulted so when this news came to Salahuddin Ayyubi he was fierce and took oath he will cut renald into pieces and after 3 years he did that as shown in this scene.
Yes that's part of real reason but renald had attaked a Muslim caravane of pilligirms that one of the was the sister of saladin he doesn't kill her but he did terrified her and the Real story saladin before killing renald he ivited him to embrace İslam evden what he did and when he refused he kill him and the reality Salahaddin was ashaari shafii sunni
Saladin was a great man and fierce warrior during the times of the Crusades as well as Richard the Lionhearted ...Very fair and good movie that I think both Christian and Muslim can view and not be offended
There has never been an historically accurate movie, ever. It's actually impossible to know what people in the past were really like, how their conversations went, what their motivations were, etc. And even if we did know those things they would be filtered through individual biases and attitudes of modern film makers and their audience. To say this or that event never happened is meaningless. Movies aren't supposed to be history lessons. They are art and entertainment. The best that historical movies can do is frame events from a particular historical period in a visually compelling way and tie them together with an engaging narrative and relate-able characters. Kingdom of Heaven does that very well, imo.
I think everyone realizes what you just mentioned about historical accuracy in movies however there are movies that claim to be historically accurate yet disregard much of the knowledge of the movie time period, the real knowledge of characters or the historical knowledge of events that happened which Kingdom of Heaven has some historical inaccuracies (things we do have knowledge about yet are shown differently). And I do think Kingdom Of Heaven shows the crusaders in a very bad light yet does it's best to portray the enemy as kind of honorable. Anyway if you haven't watch "history buffs: Kingdom of heaven". He spend much more time than me on comparing these things and introducing his findings to the audience.
Bajtjr if I watched that documentary I would want to know exactly what the sources were. Preserved documents? Who wrote them? What were their political alliances? Were they direct observers of the events they describe? Or did they receive their information from another source? Were there corroborating sources and what were their biases? I think we view historical events through a much smaller keyhole than most people realize, and the further back we go the smaller that keyhole is. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Great scene. Before Baldwin IV died, Raynald fell out of favor with him and was jailed. Guy visited him with a piece of bread. To show that he was there to talk and not poison him, Guy ate a piece and handed it to Raynald. Crusader politicking made Guy wary of being poisoned here so he handed the cup to Raynald. This insults Saladin because offering food to your enemy meant he was under Saladin's protection. "A king does not kill a king" He did not stoop to such underhanded practices. He offered his protection to Guy, not Raynald who he really wanted to kill so he declared "I did not give the cup to you" so his followers knew he did not break a guest oath.
Such a great movie! Right up there with "The Last Samurai", "Dances With Wolves", "Last of the Mohicans", "The Patriot" and "Bram Stoker's Dracula"(1992). These movies all did a great job with character development and showed there are almost always good and evil characters on both sides. They were all great love stories, as well.
he also enslaved not that we should judge looking at past , but he did enslave those who could not pay ransom not mention in the movie . But he did take pity and paid to free 20000 Christians to his credit.
This scene is actually mostly accurate. In Arabic culture, handing a prisoner a cup of water is a sign that they won’t be harmed. In real life, Guy knew that Saladin had said he would kill Raynald himself, so Guy took a drink to seal the custom and then handed Raynald the cup in hopes that drinking the same water would also save his ally. Guy didn’t understand the custom correctly though, because as Saladin says in the movie, “I did not hand the cup to you”, which means that the protection did not extend to Raynald, so he was killed as Saladin swore he would.
@@roryslaine7896 I believe he knew what it meant. Raynald is a fool, but he did fight in the region and knew the customs. Even Guy knew it. Him saying "I drink water for what it is" was him telling Saladin that he didn't care, as he already knew Saladin was itching to kill him due to past grievances and even responds to Saladin's "I didn't offer the water(in other words mercy) to you." He simply responds with "I know" pretty much telling him he knows he is going to die but he drank it anyways. I mean, the guy is a fool, but in a tactical sense but it doesn't take a genius to know local customs in a region he campaigned in for a while, especially as a military commander.
I always viewed the arrival of Saladin as turning point in the movie, where things would become better for everyone. I love the character in this movie and appreciate him as a historical element. Many statues were raised and destroyed in Jarusalem, but the one of Saladin remained for a long, long time.
"A king does not kill a king." This is actually security for any king, knowing that he would not be killed in battle nor executed as a prisoner, but rather ransomed off or - in Guy's case - let off lightly.
Ice water is more precious than gold. Such delicacy WAS rare af in hot climate deserts especially at that time. Hell, right now fresh water is arguably also more precious than gold!!
@Croz raven it was also PURE and UTTER BULLSHIT, think about it, were would he get ice, how would it be transported?, how would that EVER be possible!!!!... great movie, but that scene almost ruined the realism!!!!.
@@SDeww " it was also PURE and UTTER BULLSHIT," It isn't. Apparently, people in the region had been making structures to store ice since at least 400 bc. It's important to note, at night in the desert it can dip below freezing, especially in the winter months that is when they would make the ice and they would use the "coolers" they made to store it year long. Just because you don't think its possible, doesn't mean it wasn't.
@@SDeww Jesus mate how stupid are you. You've clearly never been to a desert during the night. People back then built cone structures that help gather moisture and freeze it as well during the desert nights.
This portrayal of Saladin as a great great leader and follower of Islam is absolutely top notch . Refreshing to see and a worthy nod to history and the islamic worlds importance and gravity in the 11th century .
Cynic that's not actually true. Accord to the pri'ary sources on each side, Saladin was a devoted jihadist.. He had no love for King Baldwin. As for yhe Christians being the backward ones, that's simply not the case. At this stage christendom was as advanced, if not more, as the islamic world.
what is christian song and islamic song? dont think european song means christian songs and there are no "islamic" songs..muslims and christians have mixed religion and culture..they think they now own them..
As I've learned more about history and gained more perspective I come to appreciate scenes like this even more. In honor cultures, the customs of hospitality and how you treat guests are sacred. He would never kill someone after giving them food or water, which is why it's important who it was offered to
In Arapic tradition if I offered you water or food I can't harm you and the king knew that that's why when he was offered the water by Salah AL Deen he gave it to his friend to protect him that why Salah AL Deen said the drink was not offered to you.
its is Islamic tradtion and not arabic tradition, but this is law in islam you may not kill your guest, and guest is when you offer someone food or water, please dont call it culture, because syrian palestinian lebnese etc are not really arabs they speak today only arabic, real arabs with their old tradition are saudi arabia yemen, oman, uae, half arabian penusuela, when anyone use word arabic then all so called arabs from syria etc feel themself proud. Salahdin was kurd and his 80% army was full of seljuk turks, these all middle eastern were accosiated with crusaders and helping them beleave me if crusaders were in afghanistan or pakistan we were in 20 years finish with them, and not like middle eastern
@@rovhalt6650 Why would Saladin try to secretly poison Guy, when Guy is a captive and there are 10,000 men behind Saladin ready to cut Guy's throat openly? You make no sense, lol.
@@rovhalt6650 So, you're telling me that Guy, in captivity, surrounded by 10,000+ enemy soldiers, with no defense, totally unprotected and unarmed, with his enemy king standing infront of him with a sword and a dagger, is worried somebody might poison him?
@@rovhalt6650 I'm sure he was forcefully put naked backwards on a donkey, to be paraded around his city and wife, as a sign of his defeat at the hands of Saladin. Guy didn't drink because he was too arrogant to accept defeat even when defeated, and he was too arrogant to accept Balian's advice to not attack due to lack of water. Guy knew (and it's very obvious) that if Saladin wanted him dead, he would've slaughtered him like the rest of his armies, so the poison theory is quite laughable actually. And it's an Arab tradition which I'm sure the Crusaders are well familiar with that if your enemy offers you a drink in captivity, it's another way of saying _I won't kill you_ .. if anything, Guy was probably hoping that Saladin would spare Raynald if Guy let Raynald drink, until Saladin made clear to Raynald that the drink is not for you (meaning, no mercy for you).
The Whole point is that; there weren't refrigerators back then, and he had to bring the ice from the mountains. Old Persian kings used to that; and he copied them.
They did, actually and dumbass rape murder and genocide existed all over the world before Europeans were civilized dumbshit..read a fucking history book.
Chris Ferguson it is true. When richard was ill towards the end of the war, saladin even sent him medicines, food and physicians. He then provided safe passage for richard to return home to england. There was also account about richard offering his sister to marry saladin after the end of the war but he refused iirc. The two then became role model for chivalry among knights all over europe.
There's even a story when Richard was extremely ill he tried to lie to Saladin and say he needed chicken's for a pet hawk. But Saladin knew he was sick and said I know you need chickens for broth I will send you these and one of my best physicians
When even an enemy asks if “you were not close enough” to as a means to learn by your predecessor’s example as a leader and then walks on whilst shaking his head in disappointment and disapproval, then you are toast.
33kaus holokaust He was in a cave at night time and hallucinations don’t last 23 years. Plus, you can’t be so consistent as he was. He received 6236 revelations while false prophets barely can take out a few verses. He cured the sick and blind. All he wanted is for people to worship God alone. Nothing else
? That was not the point of this, cur. The practice was that one could not kill a prisoner or guest who had consumed a beverage given by the captor. The propaganda was that as Saladin handed it to Guy, he could kill the prince. In reality of course, the story was a fiction, made to make Saladin look better, contemporary records say the fat sultan had his mamluks kill the prince, and drag his headless body around. Guy was shocked at the savagery but was told "A king does not kill a king."
This scene was taken right out of the history books. Saladin gave the ice water to Guy Lusignan as a show that Guy was under Saladin's protection. He really did behead the leader of the Templer Knights. Later Guy would marry King Baldwin's sister Isabella, ( Eva Green), and become rulers of Cyprus. It was a deal set up by Richard the Lionheart to get rid of the pain in the ass Guy. This movie was one of the most historically accurate movies if ever seen . Ridley Scott did a great job. I always believed the member of the Muslim royalty that the "Blacksmith" , son of Balian of Ibelin,met on the beach and befriended was supposed be to Saladin's brother El Adil. He would of behaved honorably as Saladin did.
@@captainamericaxxx3874 Yes...that is why I said that. Balian wasn't Godfrey's bastard son, Guy didn't try to kill him, Guy didn't fight him in the city after it was surrendered, he didn't marry Guy's wife. It's a great movie, but not historically correct.
@Detroit Classics go up a mountain, chop some ice of the mountaintop glacier, pack a bunch of it away, and haul it down before all of it can melt. Very expensive.
The king supped deeply upon this rejuvenating elixir, but when he passed the cup to Reynald, the sultan interjected, calmly affirming through an interpreter: 'You did not have my permission to give him drink, and so that gift does not imply his safety at my hand.’ For, by Arab tradition, the act of offering a guest sustenance was tantamount to a promise of protection.
That’s true Iam Arab and what you say Is true if any Arab invite you for water or food that mean you are under his protection it’s symbolic action of peace and respect
One problem in this film is that they made the landscape always like a dry desert like the stereotype of the West about the middle east. it's not the reality. Here they are after the battle of hattin near to tiberias, and the landscape there is quite green and with vegetation and not desert, although very hot climate.
I think they're trying to stress how hot it is, since Saladin triumphed over the Crusaders by denying them access to fresh water during their march to Hattin.
@@JennyZinaTavares you got to remember that this happened roughly 850 years ago, quite a lot can change in that time frame. Just different seasons changes a landscape immensely.
The Muslims and the people around the area where in fact geniuses from astronomy to algebra they are absolutely critical to the creation of modern society. We are still learning many things from their architecture, they had a building they created that works like a cave has a series of steps, or while being hollow inside the hot air basically goes along the walls and put it away. They’ve used it to store ice. They basically created what we would know as a refrigerator/freezer. Check it out. It’s amazing.
@billywoods3337 it's unfortunate however it's the same with Christians as well. Religion destroys science, if it was the 1500s I'd be strung up on a pole and burned to death for having epilepsy as they would rather assume I was under demonic possession whereas other cultures recognized it as a disease like how we do today. I cannot say religion has brought amazing scientific discoveries but it's like today the extremists can spew bs and they will find a group of fools to follow em be it the Amish scientologists hell even in China some dude was convinced he was related to God I forget it's exact details but because of him china had tens of millions of deaths, sounds stupid to us but back then ignorant villagers are everywhere its like convincing a child about something he has no comprehension he's just gonna follow along forgetting logic and critical thinking. Don't forget we still got people actually convinced a dude built a boat and somehow had a pair of every single animal and somehow with just him and his family not only managed to survive but feed the millions of other animals some say it was 40 days some say up to 371 either is Ludacris.
@@sadistic_veteran Salahuddin never gave that man water (hence his protection) the king of the losing side did...and salahuddin let them know it. Btw he promised he would kill that man himself because of his constant attacks on Muslims and even his campaign to attack Makkah and Madinah in his attempt to dig up the prophets grave and bring his body back for tourist so he could charge them ....he was a scum and he had it coming. Don't just stick to movies learn the history behind them.
"A king does not kill a king, were you not close enough to a great king to learn by his example?" Best quote of the film which shows that the 2 great leaders King Baldwin and Saladin,even though they were officially enemies of each other could live peacefully side by side and had great respect for each other.When Saladin himself sends a doctor to help the deathly ill King Baldwin,it says a lot about the good bond between them.Unfortunately,it was the Temple Knights and their leaders who acted as extremists and terrorists who destroyed the peace at the time.Saladin will have regretted Baldwin's death too.
Baldwin and Saladin proved that Christians and Muslims could indeed live together in peace at that time?The 2 great leaders therefore had great respect for each other;It was unfortunately the Temple Knights and their leaders who did not want that.Saladin will also have mourned the death of King Baldwin.
This actually happened in real life, the only difference being king guy drunk from the cup then handed it to Raynald who Saladin had sworn to kill for his many fucked up actions saladin then said It was you who handed him the cup to drink i give him nether water nor food (as giving him such would extend protection/hospitality) then he drew his sword and sliced him across the neck
I prefer the "Real Crusades History" interpretation which claims that Saladin killed Ranyald purely for political reasons. That he wasn't in the habit of executing prisoners, even those responsible for committing atrocities against Muslims. Rather, he killed him because he had the opportunity to, and Raynald was widely considered to be a dangerous adversary.
@@Sup_Mate Saladin killed Reynold because he raised an army to destroy the shrine of the Prophet at Medina and for raiding pilgrimage caravans of muslims. Reynold´s army that was to attack Medina was defeated, but Saladin from that day on swore that he would kill Reynold with his own hands.
@@matikhorasani3842 Yeah, but he could’ve done for purely political reasons. In other words, because it was expected of him. That Raynald’s flagrant attacks weren’t dangerous in a strategic sense but in so far as they undermined Saladin’s authority. And instead of killing Raynald out of rage, Saladin did it in order to ensure his standing with some of his more devout followers.
@@Sup_Mate For pious muslims there is no difference between killing someone for religious reasons or for political reasons. In fact there is no such differentiation in Islam. Saladin was above all motivated by religion. Had he been motivated purely by political reasons , it would be in his best interest to completely butcher the entire frankish population of Jerusalem instead of letting them go with the vast majority of their belongings and wealth. And yet that would be against the teachings of his religion.
Saladin, in the film and in real life, was the rare master who had merit and character. He was diplomatic and he did indeed say irl, “It is not customary for a king to kill a king.”
Wow, after these years of watching this film for the first time, I can understand how they successfully reflect middle east culture. in most of the middle eastern culture, when you really hate somebody, you say "no cup of water for him (my enemy) under the rain.". and when you want to show your thankfulness to someone, you may say "wish you have (somebody) to give you water in sick bed", especially if you gave water to an old person. and salaaddin just did not offer water for his enemy, make it very clear that he did not offer water to him and killed him in cold blood. at the same time he showed his respect to another king. I think nobody can say if these things happened or not but they have reflections from both of the cultures.
I love how Saladin has hatred for Reynald, but only disappointment for the French King. The Templar was a violent fanatic who knew exactly what horrors he would cause and did them anyway. The French king was a fool, but not a sadist. For him, Saladin's scorn is far more biting.
I love the line he says to Gui. A king does not kill a king, were you not close enough to a great king to learn by his example. Saladin respected Baldwin so much and recognized him as such a great king even though Baldwin was only 24
Yes it is based on true historical events that actually happened , but some details about Baldwin relationship with Saladin are confused with Richard the Lionheart ,and some minor things .
The historical accuracy of this is pretty similar. Guy De Lusignan technically in reality wasn't the bad guy the movie portrayed, he was just incompetent. Reynald also wasn't some sociopathic killer, he was just a zealot, but the scene in question technically did happen. Saladin had vowed to kill Reynald with his own hand though factually the murder of Saladin's sister was never a thing. Because he gave Guy the cup, as a Muslim you cannot kill those you extend hospitality to, but since Guy was the one handing the cup Saladin was free to keep his promise and slayed Reynald on the spot because Reynald was of course a truce breaker, but also because he exposed Saladin's weaknesses when he attacked him in the gulf of Aqaba and threatened Mecca and Medina.
Well I suppose Salahudin still did a great job, the muslims held Jerusalem for a 1000 years and Makkah and Medina are safe forever, just as God promised in the Quran
One of the best scenes in historic movies and actually went down almost identically to the scene sequence. Ghasan Matar as Salahdin was one of the best castings ever! I wish they had portrayed Guy de Lusingon in a more realistic way. He was not this radical crazy war mongerer. He was just a bad strategist and had poor judgment in assessing the whole situation at the time, which led to Hattin.
There’s some symbolism that I think no one else has talked about, one of Salahadins advisors walks into the tent wearing armour but carry’s a cup for the ice water, while the other in dressed in robes carrying a sword.
@@Sofwan786 In the movie, the protagonist meets two men from the desert, and he kills onenof them and lets the other live, and this man sais this sentence to him Later, the main character gets his life spared because this manbtaljed about his honor
The more I learn about Saladin, the more I think he should have been the main character. All the lies in this film really distort the actual History. Balien was a monster, same as the other Templar's.
Guy of Lusignana was actually pretty hardcore in real life. After these events he was the one who put Acre under siege and maintained it until Richard the Lionheart and Philip Augustus arrived to start off the Third Crusade and I'm willing to bet Saladin wasn't too happy he he let him go afterwards (obviously events in real life are not the same in the movie but he was captured and released by Saladin). I never really too much liked how they portrayed him in this movie but overall I still really like this flick, especially the extended edition.
@@augustus4832 He wasn't ransomed, he was let go. Guy also wasn't just a Noble, he was the King of Jerusalem at the time. Saladin let him go thinking he was worthless and no longer a threat... but he was mistaken.
Guy lost his daughters and wife Sybilla (and thereby his claim to being King) during the Acre siege. Irl Sybilla was actually loyal to Guy. She begged Salladin let Guy go on multiple occasions. Eventually Salladin agreed. She then immediately worked to raise an army with Guy and marched on Acre. Fortunately, an epidemic outside the city killed her and her family. Which then stripped Guy of any rights to being King via marriage to her. Destiny eventually did what Salladin was too merciful to do himself. After Acre fell, there was another massacre of the those captured. King Richard and Sultan Salladin couldn't come to terms for prisoner exchanges. King Richard ordered the execution of all 1,700 Muslim POWs. Salladin then reciprocated and did the same with captured Christian POWs.
"The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword." - Ned Stark from A Song of Ice and Fire Saladin was honorable yet also was smart and practicle. RIP you absolute legend among men.
Kaybe Vang true but there are three other man that are Khalid ibn al waleed and Umar ibn al khattab and Tariq ibn zayd who were incredible generals they definitely challenge salah al deens place at the top they conquered Persia at it’s prime and Greece and all of Egypt and North Africa and the Liberian peninsula respectively all incredible achievements but what salah al deen was no doubt incredible as well
What strikes me about this whole period was that Saladin faced two remarkable people in Baldwin the leper king and Richard the lion hearted. Really is a testament to the greatness of Saladin and those two people. Like the hand of God was speaking through those involved.
Background: It was a tradition among Ayyubid and Ummayad rulers to give a cup of ice water to a prisoner as a sign of mercy. There is record of Guy de Lusignan being given an ice cup by Salah ad-din, but we don't know for sure if Reynald de Chatillon actually grabbed it and drank like one account claims. Such an act would have been intended- and taken- as a sign of disrespect. Salah ad-din probably wouldn't have offered a cup to Reynald, and there's also the possibility that Reynald's supposed drink was an exaggeration made to make Salah ad-Din look justified in executing the man he had publicly sworn to kill. On the other hand, its not like Salah needed it. Reynald was hated across political lines, and didn't actually have Guy's backing: Guy just couldn't control his vassal.
Darkly humorous fact: After having had enough of Raynald’s shit and killing him, Saladin felt the need to calm down his other war prisoner, Guy de Lusignan, reassuring him that he wouldn’t be harmed, as Raynald alone had went above beyond in terms of being a total prick.
My favorite part. That jerk finally gets the justice of the blade. I always wondered what he thought was going to happen. I mean of course your going to get kilked when you show that kind of disrespect. Not to mentiin he killed his sister. And Ice was a precious commodity in those times. Especially in the desert. Aftee marching miles in the blazing sun with all that armor on.
Raynald de Châtillon was a robber baron if there ever was one: he along with some other greedy nobles abused peace with Saladin, repeatedly breaking treaties by attacking caravans and provoking war.
