KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES - APE NATION Movie Review (SPOILERS) 

I have to say, the opening scene established Noa perfectly. He loves his friends, he wants to prove himself, and he values tradition, but he's capable of thinking outside the box. We get all these things within three minutes of his introduction.

The ceasars funeral part at the beginning was one of the most powerful and sad moments in the franchise.

I like how they made "Nova" a legacy name. "We name them all Nova."

One of my favorite lines was “careful son, we are his now” what a scary thing for a mother to have to say and you can see Noah is realizing the seriousness of their situation

I loved that Mae and Noah didnt end the movie being best friends. There’s timid respect between the two, but the movie didn’t force a relationship (nor would it have made sense for them to.) The last 10-15 minutes did so much character-building for Mae that I didn’t expect and it just makes me want a sequel immediately

WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY

When Anaya said “Elder Luna is…elder” and Noa blew a raspberry before playfully pushing each other, I was hooked on the friendship immediately. Can’t wait to see more of the trio.

I really hope Raka returns and reunites with Noa. I really want him to also meet Soona, Anaya, and the rest of Noa’s clan. There’s a good opportunity for him to be their spiritual leader who preaches the teachings of Caesar.

It was like watching Luke begin his journey after the fall of Anakin.

One thing I appreciated was the depiction of Mae’s morality and how it’s not just black and white. Like yes she’s a protagonist of the film and is aligned with the good guys, but then it’s revealed she’s not telling the whole truth and has ulterior motives. And even if they were bad guys, she still took A LOT of ape lives when she blew up the damn. Her character clearly has one set goal and that’s to get that satellite hard drive to the surviving human base, but I feel they’re setting her up for some sort of “redemption arc” in a future movie. Perhaps she comes to know the humans and see how they’re just as bad as Proximus’ apes and decides to team up with Noah for real this time to reveal the truth about humanity’s return, maybe sacrificing herself to SAVE apes this time rather than to KILL them

I like that Mae was ambiguous. I think that fits how a human would be in her circumstance. As an audience we root for the apes. But we would tear them down in a second if this really happened. I feel like Mae incapsulates that. She does not trust them. She will betray them to fit her goals. She wants them gone. Where Trevathan submits to the circumstances, Mae fights against it. I really love the shot of her face as Proximus is giving his speech to the apes. It just screams “this is unholy/unnatural”. The colonel even said to Caesar that he leads an unholy Kingdom. That’s how humans WOULD view it. She will do what needs to be done for humanity. But at the same time she sees the humanity in Noa by the end. Where you can see it makes her a bit conflicted. I really like their last conversation. “Should we go back to silence?”. Great line. Apes can never go back at this point. And humans will never take this lying down. Perfect encapsulation of their conflict. Also I love the final shot. Where her and Noa are both looking to the sky wondering what’s next. Great note to leave on.

I think this film proved Wes Ball is no Michael Bay. And I mean that in the best possible way.

Rakas death hit me like a semi truck I was actually crying when he died he is by far my favourite character and I hope he returns

As long as Noa becomes a great leader, honors CAESAR, and whoops proxy’s ass! I’m all for it

WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!

To me, the biggest missed opportunity was not getting to see Raka and Proximus Caesar interact with each other. I liked the movie, I just with Raka wasn't taken out so early and that we got more of Proximus.

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Roka's last scene at the waterfall has very strong "Fly you fools!" energy, and i wouldnt be at all surprised if the next film begins much like Two Towers, with a flashback and extended version of That Moment When The Wise Old Man Full of Knowledge Fell and We Were Sad.

Noa is an awesome new protagonist he’s so different like he’s not that physically imposing like Caesar he’s more clever and takes his time to plan things out, also I loved how he stays true to himself and embraces his culture in the end in the face of proximus, and he even stayed true to his species when he disagrees with Mae about the apes’ belonging even though she helped him

One of my favourite parts of this film is how it comments on multiculturalism through Noah VS a uniform monoculture under Proximus. In Noahs heroes journey he learns about the different Ape and human ways of life that differ from his own, and he embraces them. He dosent suddenly believe in Caesar more than his eagle clan culture, but he listens to Caesar’s teachings and applies them to his own quest of freeing his people. This is the opposite of Proximus whos only uses Caesar to enforce his singular mission for the apes. His goal is to have apes in the same role that humans were in before they fell. So hes capturing as many apes as he can and uniting them under 1 banner so he can make a human style city with the vaults human technology. He doesn’t consider any Ape culture other than his own, including the eagle tribe who he subjugates so he can break into the Vault, and it’s pointed out that he has no use for the eagles. It’s this ignorance of the different ape cultures that are his undoing as Noah uses his unique eagle taming culture to defeat Proximus.

I am kinda conflicted on the usage of Proximus. I love everything they did with him, and I think he’s a great character. But I do feel he needed to be in it more to have more of an impact. At the same time though. His impact is felt much more than just when he’s on screen. Noa’s clan if attacked in his name. Everything that really happens is because of him. His presence looms long before you ever meet him. Which part of me says makes up for lack of screen time. But another part says that that we still needed to spend more time with him in order for us to get the most out of him. There’s an A+ villain in there somewhere, just feels like they get the most out of him.

My personal ranking after seeing Kingdom: 1. War 2. Original 3. Dawn 4. Kingdom 5. Rise 6. Escape 7. Conquest 8. Remake 9. Beneath 10. Battle

I cant see an Ape movie ever topping Dawn... but I had a blast with Kingdom. The very beginning with Cesar being put to rest, I was so excited thinking to myself, I cant believe im watching this. Was just thrilled to be back in that world.

Yknow, this movie was like to me a live action ghibli film, beautiful cinematography, great characters, great world building

This movie was everything I wanted it to be and more. Set up what looks to be a great trilogy and gave me one of the best theater experiences I’ve ever had. WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!

LI really appreciate Noa being an outsider, because it makes exposition feel organic.

Given the monumental task of bringing this 50+ year old franchise off the shelf again after its 7 year hiatus following the completion of a near perfect trilogy it’s safe to say Wes Ball succeeded. The movie did more right than wrong. It had captivating characters, amazing world building, and left the door open for much more story to tell. If Wes Ball isn’t coming back, my dream director for the next movie(s) would be Guillermo del toro. Pretty sure he was on lists for potential directors for Dawn and with his love of sci fi, experience with CGI use, and overall great movies under his belt he would be a perfect fit!

Another callback I liked was when Proximus called Noa a "clever ape" similar to when Kolp used that phrase directed at Caesar in BATTLE.

The only real flaw with this movie is that it basically just exists to set up the trilogy to follow. And yet it's so well executed that it doesn't even matter.

Absolutely loved this movie, it definitely didn't dissapoint. My favorite character is Proximus by far. I do feel there were some missed opportunities with him that I wish they would have explored more, especially with his interest in Roman history.

I really love this movie and the way it ended. Part of me believes Raka is still alive 100%, but 45% of me believes Proximus Caesar is alive. I would love to see Noa’s villian era alongside a Proximus Caesar origin story (I’m refuse to accept his ending 😂), but they could do the story like The Godfather Part II. I feel like that story would be amazing, getting Proximus backstory as Noa is entering his villian era (which I believe would be temporary, but Noa has to have this era for this reboot to set it’s own identity). But that’s just me 😎

Another great one, man! Awesome job, Josh. As a real life Bird Nerd and someone who plans to become a Falconer and has flown birds of prey, I found the eagles very satisfying. Obviously, that makes me bias and a lifetime of experience tells me that the eagles were explored in this movie about as much as they really could without loosing the audience. Lastly, as great as the CGI was, A LOT of the eagle movements were the most obviously fake in terms of "what looks real" AND I'm ok with that. I know my passions are extremely niche. I'm glad that you wanted it explored more! Apes together strong!

I love how you can see the performances so well through the completely cg characters. They were blowing me away with how amazing the acting was

I've seen Kingdom twice now and I enjoyed it even more! When it comes to ranking all four of the films it's my second favorite. The CGI in this was incredible, I'm always impressed with the effects for every Apes film. In the first five minutes I absolutely fell in love with Noah, Anaya and Soona. Noah was an amazing character, not as epic as Caesar but his character can grow with the next two films. The world building of this new world that is dominated by the apes was beautiful to look at. Seeing mother nature take back the buildings and other human structures that were left to rust across the landscape, I was just in awe. I enjoyed the commentary on the themes of faith and how characters like Raka where spreading the true words of Caesar while apes like Proximus were twisting it. I agree that Proximus could have been used more in the film but he is a very memorable villain. Raka is my favorite character from the movie, very wise and he had a lot of good funny moments. I was shocked when he supposably drowned on the bridge. I honestly don't know how I would feel if they brought him back because his death did really impact me. As for Mae I'm a little mixed on her because of the mission she was on to start things over again for the human race. Strangely I'm against what she is doing because I'm rooting for the apes! I'm curious to see how her relationship with Noah continues and with the humans, because she did not go into the bunker with that woman wearing the hazmat suit. Maybe Mae is immune but could potentially spread the diesaes? As for that ending with Noah and Soona looking through that telescope I'm curious about what they are seeing. Could just be the night sky but the camera kept on showing those murals of the astronauts so I wonder if they could be hinting at that. With all that said I LOVE this movie, it's reignited my love for the Apes franchise. I was very skeptical in the beginning of a fourth film in this new rebooted series but I was proven wrong. Wes Ball did a fantastic job, he respected the past films while giving audiences something new. I can't wait for the next two films in this new trilogy!!!! WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!!!!

Finally got to see this movie. I absolutely loved it. I don't think Proximus is dead. My philosophy with movies is if I don't see a body then they aren't dead. I think he'll come back. I'm hoping Raka comes back as well as I really liked him.

Has anybody noticed how Proximus is abnormally large for a bonobo?

Yeah, similarly the more I sat on my thoughts on this movie, the more the flaws I had faded away. This was an incredible follow up to the Caesar trilogy. Easily my favorite aspect of this movie was the world building. It was so well realized and created. The characters were great, I love all the characters. Also, I adored how much this movie felt natural in regards to honoring the original 68 film. I cried a few times watching this movie. I actually like this movie more than Rise if I’m being honest. Great in depth spoiler review Josh, can’t wait for more with this franchise.

My only real complaint is that they built up Proximus a bit too much and he featured too little in the end. His goal to expand his Kingdom came to an end a bit too early to feel like it really begun.

I really enjoyed the film as a whole, to start off the movie looked absolutely beautiful the cgi was top tier, at times I forgot that these were cgi characters. Noah is great protagonist not as good as Caesar but I know his character development will grow. Proximus Caesar played by Kevin Durand is just great he’s the sole reason why I went to see this I wish there was more of the character. I can’t wait to what this new trilogy will be since I became a recent fan of the series.

Loved the film. As a big PotA fanatic myself, I agree with everything. I really expected a line from Noa calling out Proximus, "you are not Ceasar." I could see the apes evolving very rapidly by the 7th film. The apes jumped tens of thousands of years, developing necessary vocal chords and higher brain function in a matter of years. So it's not a stretch that we will see them jump to the space age by the end of the 6th.

I enjoyed this one the least, but that’s only because the Caesar trilogy is so good. I still enjoyed this one quite a bit. Still do after a second watch. 7/10 I really like seeing another ape society prospering on it’s own but further along in their development towards civilization, with everyone speaking in mostly complete sentences and having unique customs based on their falconry. I’m surprised in your spoiler free review you only named Proximus as someone who could’ve used more screentime. I was shocked that we lost Raka as early as we did, or even at all! But I have a thought on that later. (I found out about the after credits thing but it was only described as ape noises, so I didn’t stick around. Definitely interesting if it’s orangutan noises, would not object to Raka’s return.) Speaking of, Proximus is pretty great, Durand does an excellent job in the role, and I definitely could’ve used more of him. The way you talked about his end in the spoiler free made me think maybe he was gonna win, and/or kill Noa. Especially when the vault was opened and he showed interest in the guns, since apes do have them in the original. Mae is interesting to me in that she’s not as hardcore anti-ape as Carver or McCullough, but definitely not pro-ape. I guess she’s a lot more like Dreyfus, wanting to secure humanity’s survival and willing to eliminate anyone who gets in the way of that, even if it’s only potentially. Conisdering the ending, I wonder if Raka’s absence as the last of the order of caesar will have an impact on the way apes see humans. The eagle clan already saw them as pests to be scared off, but Noa comes to believe in distrusting smarter ones thanks to Mae’s self serving actions and desire to give the world back to humans. That’s basically a Zaius mindset, but Noa at least is just unsure of the idea coexistance rather than completely against it. In addition to that, Raka didn’t say the third Caesar law _Knowledge is power._ And not only that, I don’t remember that law even being unobstructed enough to fully see in Dawn. Maybe the novelization confirmed it. Either way, even with Raka, who wants the truth of Caesar’s teachings known, the importance of knowledge isn’t fully carrying over. And there’s plenty of knowledge suppression in the original. Also about the ending, seeing Mae had her hand on the gun behind her back made me the most tense I was during the movie! I was so relieved when she didn’t shoot him. Also also! It seems like this timeline could be veering a bit into the territory of the show. The astronauts’ main goal in that was to find a computer to read a data disk that could help them find a way back to their time. Plus something from a short story in Tales from the Forbidden Zone. Or, these uninfected humans could be the start of this timeline’s version of the alpha omega mutants I don’t wanna make this longer so I’ll do the rest short 😅. Liked Noa & friends, coulda used more for Proximus hench-apes and Koro, some things could’ve been executed better like what you said for Sylva, the eagles, and Noa vs Proximus.

We need a group chat ! I can talk about this movie all day. I'm going to see it again this weekend. My favorite part by far is that look of worry in May's eyes when she sees Noa fix the the taser. She sees how much they have advanced while humans lost their intelligence. So subtle & fascinating

I agree that Freya has a look that belongs in this world. I know exactly what you mean lol. Idk how to describe it but her face feels like it would’ve belonged in the original.

Definitely coming back to watch this after I see the movie next week. I’m excited for that and this😁

Thanks - I was really looking forward to your review. It certainly did not disappoint!

Lets go I been waiting on your review since Friday!! 🦍🔥🔥🔥

Loved it. Watched with the whole family yesterday! It setup this new world flawlessly! 8/10 because I know the future ones will be 9/10 and 10/10

Proximus Caesar deserved so much more ! I went again last night and I enjoyed it a lot more my second watch. The movie is just beautiful visually. I guess I expected it to be so EPIC bc 300 years passed and it was so much you could do. I still feel like some potential was wasted but this is only the first movie. I am still excited for the next !!

28:38 the funniest part for me was in the beginning when the bird immediately pecked noah in the head. It was so unexpected and immediately brushed aside but it made me laugh

I really like Mae and Noa in this movie and hope they return in the next one and I really like how complex their “friendship” ended up being and would love to see it explored further with Noa not being so naive to her

I loved the movie and agree with a couple of points you’ve made. Had they spent more time with developing the relationship between Noah and his father we would’ve better understood more about the eagles. As a result they would’ve meant more to us in the end. I was able to develop in my mind what the eagles were to Noah’s tribe(they were a means of food capture, communication and obviously as we saw in the end, protection). Ball did a great job and yes the CGI is fantastic but I also enjoyed the aspect of being able to see the actor in each ape. I was able to see and I enjoyed it yet was glad it wasn’t too much. Your coverage of everything associated with this universe has been a big part of my preparation for this movie and I appreciate it so much. You’ve done a great job. Thank you very very much

I wished we saw Proximus won the story, and managed to get all of the technology inside the vault and see where it goes. I think they should’ve done that instead of just having Noa win the battle, because if they wanted to do more sequels then they could follow a bunch of stories where the Apes are conquering the Earth and Ape Civilization becoming more advanced over time, but also go into other ideas the franchise hasn’t done or could explore. For example: 1. What about the monkeys and other primates around the world such as Mandrils, Baboons, Lemurs. Did they become more evolved and be able to build their own factions, villages, and kingdoms? Just a curious question they could explore. 2. Seeing History repeat itself but instead in the form of Human Nature, we could see it in Ape Nature, like the Rise & Fall of the Roman Empire for example, how would it be for the apes? Just another curious idea they could’ve explored. 3. Were there other ape figures such as Caesar from the Original Trilogy that were around as well, and not just Caesar? And some other ideas they could’ve explored but hey still a good movie. Kind of wished though it was a villain victory.

Wow wtf I thought I had already subscribed the second I found this channel like two months ago. Apparently YT thought otherwise. Love the channel bro keep up the great work! Apes together strong!

I love when I go see a movie that I fall in love with and then I find an awesome deep dive spoiler review on RU-vid. Well done sir!

APES TOGETHER STRONG! Just been to see it. Amazing! I’m so happy this franchise is being treat with such care. 🎉🎉

Great review! Well worth the wait. Curious what YOU (Ape Nation) would put in the sequel to kingdom planet of the apes

Been waiting on this video 🔥🔥 What a wonderful day!

I feel like William H. Macy’s character mirrored Winter from War. May be far fetched but think about it: they both turned on their own kind in order to survive…..and they both get choked out for it lol

Really enjoyed the writing of this episode. Very 'Rod Serling' like in hope many social life subjects were touched on in this through the characters expressions...Well done👍

This is the best kingdom of the planet of the apes RU-vid video review I’ve seen! Thanks for all your hard work on this!

I've just come back from seeing this film and I just adore it. I'm excited for more.

I loved it but think I'll need to watch it again to really appreciate it & as a new start to movies in the world u summed it up perfectly

My favorite apes movie now! I love it. Hope Rocka comes back 🥺

There were some logic errors in the movie like e.g. why weren't the Apes, mainly the ones who have the same ideology as Proximus Caesar, able to find weapons in different places of California. You really want to tell me that in 300 YEARS you were not able to go to an abandoned police station or military base where there must be at least some weapons left behind by humans. I guess that will be explored more in the future Sequels but right now they are logic errors for me. If 20th Century Fox (Disney) really plans to do more than two more Planet of the Apes Movies, then please for the love of God don't give it to Zack Snyder.

Overall the film is good and a worthy addition to the Apes franchise. Because the characters were so captivating, I never felt bored despite feeling it drag a little. Raka is definitely my favorite character and I hope the next film reveals his survival. I do like how Noa and Mae despite being good people are still skeptical of one another and aren't automatically promoting peace between humans and apes like Caesar did but also aren't hostile. Of course the acting and special effects are grand. My only nitpicks are that I wanted Proximus Caesar to live on, if he did indeed die, and be a recurring villain for at least another film. The other being the ending. Im not mad or anything like that but feel kinda meh about intelligent humans still being around and now being able to contact each other. I think because the previous two films already dealt with intelligent human survivors and apes opposing each other, I was hoping that aspect was done so we could truly see this world being ran by the apes with Mae being the exception. I just hope they dont essentially tell the same story as Dawn or War in the next film

This film was breathtaking, emotional, action packed, and everything I hope to see moving forward in the franchise. Nora is an awesome new lead that I hope to see again moving forward, and hopeful that we can Raka again as well cause what happened to him broke my heart 😢.

I loved it. My favorite in the 4 films is still Dawn. Kingdom is number 3 on my list. I do think 300 years is a bit much, I would say 50 to 75 years later after War makes more sense particularly the role of humans at the end of the film. Thank you for the review.

Love you dude! This channel is awesome!

perfect video to watch before going to bed, hell yea

Noah is Arthur and Rakka is Merlin.

I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. My mom is a fan of the original series and we watched the epic trilogy and so of course going to this was a no brainer. But it really was a refreshing new take while giving respect and love to what came before. I’m excited and really hop me we get more movies in this world.

This movie could be 4hrs long and I wouldn't be mad

I loved it! Great video!

Hi, hope your well? Thanks for yet another excellent video this time on Kingdom of the planet of the apes. I saw it at the cinema here in Scotland on Tuesday evening and the place was packed. I loved it. To me it’s stands proud along side Rise, Dawn and War and hopefully more films including Noa. I loved the opening scene with Caesar’s funeral with Maurice, Rocket etc it made me cry. I also loved the scenes with Noa trying to interact with the eagle and hanging out with his two friends. Raja’s death was so unexpected it knocked the wind out of me. I was hoping he’d be in more movies because he seemed so knowledgeable about our Caesar. Proximus was a great villian i thought he was a little miss understood at times but seemed like he wanted to learn he just let the power go to his head a bit. I thought his followers were much worse. Never the end i didn’t like Mae because she tried to drown all the apes including Noa and when they met for the last time she had the gun behind her back. i thought she was going to shoot Noa. I loved the eagles finally reacting to Noa too. Apologies if i’ve mentioned spoilers . in case anyone hasn’t seen it yet what are you waiting for? Do you think Proximus survived his fall? Where do you think the story will go from here? Finally what are Mae and the other humans up to?. Thanks again. Take care 😘🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 #ApesTogethetStrong ❤️ #CaesarNeverForgotten ❤️💔😭🤧 #TeamNoa ❤️

I saw it last night and felt it was lacking something. Definitely had that “don’t worry the next movie is gonna be amazing” vibe going on. Worth a rewatch though for sure.

I AM A HUGE FAN SINCE 2011. I was in high school when Caesar story's begun. And now a new story begins. I FELT THE SAME when I watched Kindom the first time.....I had a weird feeling. But the second time....God....I rewatched a third time already. I TOTALLY ENJOY every character and every part of their World. Caesar's funeral was a huge surprise. I LOVED to see Maurice and Rocket there. NOA and his friends introduction tells everything about them. I felt a blue eyes's POV in noa as he see his father. Thinking he is not good enough....and wanting his approval. But in this case the one who died is the father. Proximus is amazing. I think there is more of his story that could be explore. I hope he is not death. I WOULD LOVE to see him and noa having to make an alliance in the future. Raka was lovable. Love his expresions. Mae is a double face. She used noa to reach her goal. I NEVER expected that. She is stuck in a past she never lost. She never lived in. The only thing I hate and I want an explanation is that they used rocket's model as a NPC. 😢 why? He was an important character in the trilogy. Why used his model again as irrelevant?

The new Planet of the Apes franchise literally can't miss

I loved this movie and it lived to the hype I’m super excited for more of Noa’s EE VO LUTION for the next films and my only gripe with this film is I wished we had more scenes with Proximus because of how good he was, that Vault Opening Scene with him and Noa was so good I just wanted more and I hope both him and Rakka survive cause Rakka was another one of my favorite characters in this film over all I give it an 8/10 it’s very solid and super immersive and definitely deserves the Hype

Thank you for the thoughtful review. I waited until after finally seeing the film to watch your video. I agree that Wes Ball, the writers, and John Paesano have done an amazing job. I actually noticed several Lord of the Rings nods (Proximus’ kingdom intro music sounds like the theme music for Isengard and I thought Raka’s “death” was very much like Gandalf in Moria). The direction of this first film in the new Apes trilogy is - I think - heading into a heartbreaking ending where Raka is shown to be The Lawgiver (yes, Raka - like Gandalf - will return for an emotional reunion with Noa) when he finally turns from humans after what will eventually be Mae’s betrayal of the apes in a war where we will have nuclear weapons used. The humans she works with in Kingdom are already wearing hazmat suits and going through decontamination procedures, so they are on their way to becoming the mutants of Beneath the Planet of the Apes. I am so excited for the future of the series! Wes Ball and the writers are to be applauded for their amazing dedication to the legacy of the original films and the Andy Serkis films.

I love this movie and that scene when Noa gets the Eagles to attack Proximus is one of the coolest things I've seen in a Planet of the Apes.

I went and saw this last night. I enjoyed it but might try sitting closer to the screen next time because i could barely see the ASL subtitles or the screen itself (Nearsighted plus surgery). Hopefully it'll come to Netflix or something similar for the smaller screen. Still had a good time, though and yes, we needed more Raka screentime.

THE ASTRONAUTS ARE HERE BABY!!! I've waited SOOOOO long. I can't see HOW they don't make the 1968 version next movie. and with everyone in the bunker and underground in this movie, I think was a little throwback to beneath the planet of the apes.

I really hope the next movie ending is the reverse of this one where Noa leaves Mae to die but then he comes back and saves her. I think that would be cool

Hello Ape nation great review on Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes saw this on mothers day with my mom and did not disappoint it was awesome ride, effects and actor performances were superb I think it is better then rise but it does not top dawn or war for me this me knows that just focusing on reintroduced universe again to movie audience I rank this as number six for me after Conquest,War,Escape, Original 1968, and number one dawn.

Finally got to watch this movie! Just got out of the theater! It was definitely worth the wait! My 2nd favorite after DAWN. 9/10 for sure

I loved this movie. I thought it was absolutely incredible from start to finish. I agree with you, it really needed a second viewing. I also felt the rough pacing in my first viewing, but my second viewing flew by once I knew the structure of the story. In my initial viewing, I didn't like Mae because she comes across as a bit of a sociopath, which was not where I was expecting her character to go. However, in my second viewing, I did notice that she definitely displays moments of empathy, I just missed them. I think her character would benefit most with further development in a sequel, so I hope she comes back. I loved the world building and the setting in this one, and I really want a video game set in this world, even though I know that won't happen. The more I sit on this one, the more I love it. I feel pretty confident in saying it is my second favorite behind War. I do wish Proximus and Silva both had more screentime. I hope Wes Ball gets to do his director's cut one day because I would be interested in a longer cut of the film.

The beginning of the movie caught me off guard. I loved this movie. I will watch again.

Mae understood the assignment. She was for humanity not apes the whole time. Once that fact sets in, the movie became even more dynamic

Imagine if after the credits you heard. WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!! 😂 would be nice to get proximus back in the next movie.

The best movie of the year. The most fascinating film franchise; it feels so fantastical and ultra realistic at the same time.

I really enjoyed this film. I think it's absolutely head and shoulders above the recent Ceasar Trilogy. However I don't trust the humans that Mae is associated with. This film could really springboard onto great stuff with this new era kick off. Amazing stuff!

A comic/ book could twist the story and relationship between Proximus and Trevathan to mirror Caesar and James Francos character. Trevathan may have given up on the power of humanity but could have used proximus as a way to live vicariously through the ape kingdom. Trying to use the apes as a way to achieve power and control of the earth again as well as exposing what may be inside the vault to proximus.

Love the Movie 🍿 Reminded me of Mel Gibson’s Apocalypto… A small tribe getting enslaved by a larger kingdom then our hero having to rescue his family 👍 I wanted Noah’s dad to quote Jaguar’s Paw’s Dad, “My Son, don’t be afraid” After watching Fallout, I loved seeing the Apes getting technology from a Vault. And seeing human survivors in a Vault.

Can't agree more with the points you made, but especially , Yes, the film misses the emotional impacts and story depth that I think Dawn and War had. What I was telling myself watching this was to not compare it too heavily with the previous movies because this would set super high expectations that would be hard to meet, given that, imo, the first three movies are amazing. Then again, on its own, this film could've hit some higher notes in places. It's great though that it's almost perfect visually, uses those themes nicely, and sets up nicely for a potential trilogy.

peter macon was good in the orville, but im glad he got to flex in a more dynamic performance

I wonder who will direct the 5th with Wes Ball directing Zelda. (Btw I really hope Wes casts Owen Teague as Link)

love the nods to the original,the doll that says "mama"&the ape style scarecrow like figures,but hope as I've read a few times now a future apes film isn't a virtual remake of the original,that would be far too neat&tidy and contrived ending. my theory for the end is it could be a twist of that&humans return as the dominate force.

One direction this could go in, that I at least would find fascinating, is some movies that follow the continued development of the ape civilization through the centuries. Then, one day, 2,000 years in the future, some random human shows up "out of the blue" that turns what the apes, and by that point we viewers, thought they knew and what they'd built, on its head. Like, a 'remake' of the 1968 original but seen from the apes' point of view, so that the Neo-Taylor is akin to an alien invasion.

I loved the movie, and i cried😢...❤

I seen it on May 9th and I’m still thinking about it so for me that’s a big seal of approval. Was it perfect, no but it is very good. Wes had a huge task to pull Off coming off of one of the best trilogies in cinematic history. He built an amazing world. I could have spent the whole movie just following the apes through this world. I loved Noa and his relationship with his two friends. I loved so much of this film that I would need an hour to go over it all so just a few little things… the doll, I was the only person in my theater that yelled out loud when it made the sound from the original. I had to tell my younger cousin what that meant. Also loved the X shaped scarecrows that are also from the original film. When a director puts little things like that in a movie then I know that they know the source material fairly well. Overall it lived up to the hype for me. Too soon to rank it with the others. The Caesar trilogy holds such a special place in my heart that’s it tough to top any of them tho this is right there and maybe over time I will love Noa as much as I do Caesar and it will allow me to put this up against any of them films. Well except Dawn, I don’t think anything can top that. lol