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Good Grief! I cannot even post a comment about this due to RU-vid's horrible 'AI' removing my comment. Theory- at the end of this trilogy there will be a new-clear war started by the underground humans who will be found to be doing DNA experimentation between a pes and hu mans and this results in a hybrid of the two spe cies. Then 2,000 years later the astronauts return.
As long as I’ve been into all things PLANET OF THE APES (since 1971), it never occurred to me to compare the two Caesars. I dig ‘em both for their own individual reasons.
I think we can all agree the Andy Serkis Caesar beats Rody McDowell's Caesar any day. The Andy Serkis Caesar had far superior writing and a way more powerful journey and Serkis outacted McDowell. Loved your intro mirroring the opening text in Kingdom of The Planet of The Apes btw!
I prefer Andy Serkis by a long ways, but the one thing that the story of Roddy McDowall has is a lot more character building for his wife. We barely know who Cornelia is. Both have good character development with their children though.
"When the sea is a dead sea, and the land is a wasteland out of which I will lead my people from their captivity! And we will build our own cities in which there will be no place for humans except to serve our ends! And we shall found our own armies, our own religion, our own dynasty! And that day is upon you... now!" The Andy Serkis Caesar can't top that. Andy's Caesar is is much more flushed out overall but given the fact Author P. Jacob's was making the sequels on the fly Roddy's Caesar is done really well in both Conquest & Battle. I honestly have to say I love the rebooted Caesar, but overall I really love Roddy's version of Caesar.
I like to think that the nuclear war that happened in between Conquest and battle for may have been the tipoing point for Caesar. "Ok, now things have gone too far. We need to stop killing eachother."
I like the clothes Roddy McDowell's Ceasar wears. Seeing all of the modern movies with naked apes was kinda boring. I hope that we see more apes in interesting outfits in the future.
Actually, as someone who was born the same year the live action television series aired, grew up with the original films, and have ALL of the apes films on DVD (from the original five to the 2001 film to the recent trilogy), I have to agree with your points on this, and your final choice. The original 5 films (and the TV series) will ALWAYS be cherished and have a very special place in my heart, the recent trilogy with Andy Sircus is certainly the superior version in many ways. That is not to say that Andy is a better actor than Roddy, far from it. I think both of them are phenomenal actors and did an excellent job with the material they had to work with and I consider them equals in that regard. But it was the difference in the writing of the two stories that really stands out between the two sets of films, and I think the over all writing in the trilogy was better than the original, though both were definitely very creative and quite extraordinary in their own way. This assessment also applies to the 2001 film as well, plus the makeup effects in that film were much more realistic, though the original was certainly groundbreaking and still holds up very well even now. All of them were great stories and each was very well done and definitely the best they could be for the time they were made. I absolutely love the Apes franchise and I cannot wait to see where the stories take us next.
Minute one of this and you’ve got me in tears 😭❤️I can’t even choose between them which is better in performance. Serkis arguably one of the best actors on the planet and works SO hard and completely dedicated to the material. Roddy McDowall seemed to get more emotionally attached to Caesar himself, became determined to make this a completely different personality than Cornelius and not only worked so hard to make it a success but doing it at the same time he went through a great deal of physical turmoil as a result of the prosthetics and makeup and you wouldn’t even notice to watch him in the film. So much to admire in both of them.
Besides personal opinions is really sad and pathetic that Paul Dehn hasn´t been credited in any of these new movies, he alone made Caesar what is in his core and should be respected by both Jaffa and Silver instead of just crediting themselves
I couldn’t disagree more about the ranking of Battle. I feel like Conquest is legitimately terrible and Beneath is also just a bad movie but Escape has some fun moments and Battle is by far my favorite of the classic movies. I don’t even know what to think about your assessment of it because it’s just completely opposite to how I felt watching them all recently. Truly bizarre to hear someone disparage it so harshly lol
I'm glad you like it, but Battle is pretty universally viewed as the worst movie in the og franchise while Conquest is one of the more well liked sequels, so not sure why it's such a surprise 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ape-Nation I’ll admit, I’ve never had a single conversation with anyone about the ranking of this series or even discussed the OG sequels as I only recently watched all of them but I just truly cannot comprehend a world where people actually enjoyed Conquest. That movie was absolutely abysmal and Battle is imo the only sequel that’s truly worth watching.
