Kip Kinkel was an undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenic who shot and murdered his parents, 2 classmates, and injured 22 others. I want to thank Snagger M2D Manuel for recommending this episode www.patreon.com/LPRPresents
Growing up about an hour from Springfield, I distinctly remember when this happened. Kip is only three years older than me. I had friends who went to Thurston, and wrestled against some of the same kids in the cafeteria that day. I remember coming home from school that day and my mom had the phone in her hand. She had tears in her eyes. I got on the phone and it was my Dad. That was strange because he’d left when I was just a toddler and hadn’t really been around much after. I remember him telling me he loved me, and apologizing for not being around. It wasn’t until years later that my Dad told me why he’d called that day. He was a SWAT medic at the time and had been activated that day. Thankfully he hadn’t had to storm that cafeteria, but he did have to deal with the aftermath. As a father, I guess it shook something in him. It wasn’t until I’d been overseas and back a few times that he finally shared that with me. I guess he figured I’d finally understand, both as a combat veteran and a father. Kip doing what he did changed much of Oregon. I know it changed school for many of us. Friendships meant more, but the innocence of youth was shattered. My GF went to Thurston two years after the shootings and knows many of the survivors personally. Most are thriving today, which I’m sure upsets Kip. That couldn’t make me happier, honestly.
@@LPRPresents 🙏🏻 It’s hard to forget. Thank you for doing your due diligence and presenting everything in such a well researched manner. And thank you for paying respect to those who mattered the most; the victims.
No, it doesn't upset Kip at all. He's very happy that his victims were able to deal with this tragedy and thrive. Kip was a victim as well, just in a different way. Kip is not his mental illness.
Don't understand how you aren't getting hundreds of thousands or millions of views per video, your stuff is so well made and unique even compared to other true crime stuff. I hope you'll get a breakthrough soon
I could swear you deliver us these videos right when I need something I can FULLY engage with. I sincerely appreciate your documentaries!! As dark as the topics may be, for me, they are not just a great distraction, they’re therapeutic. Some TALENT going on here.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Another fantastic piece from LPR. Excellent work, I can’t wait to see what you do next! Truly the best true crime channel I’ve come across, and I share it with anyone I know who enjoys true crime.
This episode brims with empathy. Rather than rushing to a conclusion that would, roughly speaking, close thought on the subject; you meaningfully address various contextual factors and ideological positions such that all of the meaning, the social affect, and the legal ramifications are played out in full. And though I do not believe that we should produce weapons (and certainly that parents should not buy them for a teen as a means of communication); your work makes it deeply apparent that there are multiple issues to address that would better the lives of a community and state, even if guns were not involved. Continued thanks for you work.
JCS is inconsistent, made their money and got lazy. LPR, Matt Orchard, this is monsters, steph harlowe, distirnban, dying fire, and others still putting in a ton of work to produce consistent top quality content. What has JCS released since they went viral? Lazy and inconsistent. LPR and others still putting an immense amount of work into videos. JCS was revolutionary, but they’re not even top 5 true crime content and have not been for months. That channel is Barely relevant now. They had a good run. They seem to be completely checked out at this point,
@@jluchette "Barely relevant"... have you checked their numbers on their latest upload? Also, Dave's Lemonade and Truly Criminal are two other phenomenal channels. DL for this true crime... I don't watch his TCAP analysis.
Very well done, given the age of this case and the fact it predates Columbine, the information could not have been easy to dig up. Thanks for making my workday go by a little quicker! Keep up the great work!
Thank you for watching :). It was definitely harder to research than I had initially anticipated... But the more I dug the deeper it became, and I feel as though there is so much I left out. The original cut was just over 1h30m, but I decided to cut it from the final version as it felt overly analytical and bloated
@@LPRPresents I always love quality content, as such, you are the first and currently only person I have ever sponsored on Patreon. Consider it a late Christmas Present.
I too, found it very confusing/shocking when they decided to stop the psych sessions and Prozac. Quitting the very things which were helping his illness!
What's wrong with parents who buy weapons for their mentally ill children? You covered this as a proper gentleman, but I just can't imagine this. And I feel that parents are guilty when they act this way. His paid the price, but not all of them do. Thank you.
I don't agree. If anything, he should have been placed into a mental hospital. I'm an advocate for his release with the condition that he continues his medication.
Thank you for your compelling documentary. Kip Kinkel's crimes could've been prevented had he been diagnosed earlier & treated for his dyslexia & schizophrenia. A child so ill shouldn't have been tried as an adult. Schizophrenia is a psychotic disorder which means a person is out of touch with reality. If this isn't a textbook case of insanity in the legal sense, I don't know what is. Horribly tragic for everyone involved. Sadly, Kip's father took the wrong approach in trying to connect & help his son. Sadly, his medication & therapy was stopped. Others didn't see how much pain Kip was in. Violence is never the answer to suffering. In this case, the young boy really couldn't help his actions. He should've been incarcerated in a paychiatric hospital for the criminally insane & receive treatment there. How much treatment is he receiving in prison? How effective is it?
He is well treated in prison, they ensure he receives the right medications. The sad part is that under treatment Kip does not experience any kind of schizophrenia, there are no voices and kip has t heard them for a very long time. I believe that under treatment Kip is not a threat, and that he should be released. The justice system has made him their martyr however, and it’s likely that will never happen, despite his unique case. Thank you so much for watching!!
@@LPRPresents That's good to learn. Sadly, when Kip was a child, he was prescribed Prozac. That drug was controversial. Many patients claimed it caused them to be suicidal. Nowadays, Prozac & similar antidepressants are used cautiously in kids & teens because they can cause suicidal thinking & behavior in people under age 25. I don't know if this was explored with Kip. Had he stayed in therapy his schizophrenia for sure would've been discovered & property treated with antipsychotic medications. Antidepressant medications could've been used as add-on treatment. So sad for Kip's family, his victims, & himself that this was all missed.
@@LPRPresentsYou sound sick yourself!!!!!!!!!!!1 Anyone who thinks an evil person like Kip should be released is either evil too, or sick!!!! In the first place absolutely everyone knows the problem with psychotics, they cant be trusted to take their medicine!! That's why you see these type of people walking the streets talking to themselves, urinating and defecating in public, and just generally acting inappropriate. Several decades ago they would have been in institutions, but when the anti-psychotic meds were created, they thought the problem was licked and started closing up the nut houses. Now these people just wonder the streets making it scary and dangerous for normal citizens, because just like this guy, who is going to stand over him constantly and make sure he takes the meds if he were out of prison! O.k., I'll help you, NO ONE!!!!!! Sorry, but you need to "wake up and smell the coffee!"
We have to figure out ways to treat those with mental illness who are violent sooner & more aggressively. I don’t mean with harsh facilities & boot camps, rather more enforced treatment & medication. Not sure how we’d do that in this age of “rights”. But too often, dangerous individuals are allowed to discontinue treatment which ends up getting others killed. In this case, I’m totally baffled why the psychologist didn’t adamantly explain to the parents that psychiatric meds aren’t like a round of antibiotics that you take and then problem is over. This kid had serious ongoing problems that couldn’t be solved with 3 months of therapy & Prozac. It’s often a lifelong effort to maintain stability.
Your channel is my absolute favorite true crime channel. The amount of research you obviously do, the editing and music, narration and story telling you do is so far above other channels that are more widely known. Thank you for all the work you do to allow people like me to watch and learn about these topics.
I’m also about an hour from Springfield and this case hits so close to home. It’s a scar in our history of Oregon and is well known. That you for covering this so eloquently like always. I can’t wait to see what you have next! The Broken Arrow killings is something I would love to see you cover. Happy new year to you!
“I’m also an hour away from springfield”…why the mystery? So what if you’re from Corvallis, Albany, Millersburg, Roseburg, or,….Sweet home (highest percentage of sex offenders per capita in the State)
Kip had a single bullet taped to his bare chest,..”his bullet” afterward. I was just stepping onto a LTD bus when the bus driver said out loud that someone was shooting kids at Thurston High school in Springfield. A woman getting on the bus behind me turned started screaming “oh my god!,..oh my god!,..my son is a student at Thurston!” she was hysterical, panicked, totally pale & understandably so.. the driver & I did our best to contain her as people can do crazy things when in shock/like run into traffic or worse.. I can still hear her anguished cries, screams, I was 23, & headed home to gear up for a Wildfire Dispatch when the shooting started.
Thank you for covering this. It’s so sad. Mental illnesses are horrific and people in positions of power feel their only answer is to lock them up and throw away the key when that’s the last thing that should be done. It’s cruel. We’ve recreated the sanitariums of our past.
What other fucking options is there? The parents did absolutely nothing wrong and he still ended up being a monster. The gouvernement doesn’t have a magic solution that makes them behave, otherwise these people wouldn’t exist. Prison is made to, above all else, lock dangerous people up. We don’t want dangerous people into civilized society.
The amount of work you put in each video is admirable. Thank you for giving us another documentary quality video, so well thought, edited and narrated. I'm truly impressed with you and I hope you continue to grow on RU-vid because you totally deserve it. Have a great year, by the way!
To anyone wanting to do RU-vid documentaries, watch this! This is exactly how you do it!. Very much in-depth, great preparation, great voice, great knowledge of the story, keeping the viewer’s interest, and not showing the same clips and pictures the entire time. You should definitely be producing for Investigation/Criminal shows or documentaries on TV or anything really. Just perfect! This story is very sad and the parents did just about everything the could besides letting Kip have weapons. I’ll never understand the “voices in my head” and whether it’s a real thing or not. Kip seemed very remorseful for killing his parents and knew it was wrong but he still killed and tried to kill more. Some people just can’t be fixed and are truly mentally ill. Great job on the video! One of the best on YT!
Each case should be taken on it's own. There is no one size fits all solution for school shooters or teens that commit murder. This was entirely preventable if he was diagnosed and treated for his mental health. He is clearly remorseful unlike some teen killers. His schizophrenia should absolutely have been taken into account. He should have been in therapy (stayed in therapy and on meds) and on the Prozac he was prescribed. He was told to stop taking Prozac which he needed to stay on but also you can't just stop taking any SSI. The withdrawal symptoms are very serious. Combine that with undiagnosed schizophrenia and you have a kid that is NOT in his right mind. With further therapy visits his schizophrenia would have been diagnosed and treated. If that had been done I do not believe he would have killed anyone. He hated himself the most because he wasn't doing as well in school as his sister (because of dyslexia) and his mental illness did not help him see things clearly. He didn't know why he was the way he was or the failure his parents saw him as. This kid went through much of his life with many undiagnosed conditions. His journals make his state of mind very clear and why it was that way. He didn't understand the voices in his head. His interview after the shooting shows extreme remorse and a 15 year old boy in severe mental anguish and illness. All of that should have been taken into account when determining his sentence. If would have also been helpful if his parents had not given their obviously troubled teen son any guns! He should have been sentenced to a lockdown psych ward. Then let the professionals see what they could do to get his mental illness under control. Then decide what should be done from there. Not all teen killers and school shooters are the same. Each case should be carefully evaluated. Yes, they will have to have some form of punishment in a facility but it needs to be the right facility and the length of time differing by case.
I love every one of your videos, everything is done so tastefully and respectfully. For a case to do a video on I'd recommend Daniel LaPlante, I can't believe it isn't more infamous, the headlines suck you right in
Thanx again for this documentary!! Finally, I managed it to become one of your patreons. Makes me proud. Please keep on with your work! Your documentaries are the best, its an art, like you do this! And take your time, dont hurry. Greetings from Vienna! your fan isa
You have been with me for a very long time now, and I am truly thankful for your support. I always feel humbled that people believe in the channel like they do, and that feeling alone is a very real wind in my sails. The channel would not be where it is without this community, and you, one of my very first supporters... I feel like I can't say it enough, thank you, truly.
@@LPRPresents Your channel will grow and your supporters will become more and more! Because your work is high quality and full of humanity! An arrow in the future ...... THX to you!
Ok now that I’ve watched it. Thank you so much for presenting this case so elegantly. You are always so good at showing both sides and yet still honoring the victims of such horrid crimes. I get so conflicted near the end when discussing the reform that they passed on adolescents with life sentences. I want to think they can be reformed but then think of their heinous crimes and just can’t imagine the families having to endure a release of someone who took their loved one away. I also want to hug Kristen for a minimum of 2 minutes. The life she was handed was so unexpected for her and I’m sure this has been so difficult for her during her life and will continue to be. Excellent work Darren. Thank you for all of your time and effort you put into another amazing production! Oh yea, music was perfectly balanced on my end and that song at the very end…wow powerful!
He was a very kind man. You don't have any right to judge. A lot of kids in that area had guns and went hunting all the time. Yes, I grew up in that area. I think he paid the ultimate price, don't you.?
All the red flags were there and his parents still purchased the guns for him...They gave in to everything he wanted...My friend has a 16 yr. old son with mental health issues and he's always getting into trouble with police..She had him admitted to a mental hospital...When he came out he was doing good for like 6 months and started getting into problems again and hanging out with the wrong crowd...He ended up committing a store robbery with a knife and is now in a juvenile detention center and my friend refuses to get him out.. and she requested for the judge to keep him there as long as possible...He will be moved to an adult prison when he's 18 yrs. old
Fantastic job as always. You're tops on RU-vid for sure. Another case - and you probably already have it in your list - Ryan Waller. I think of all the true crime and/or interrogation videos I have watched, this is the most haunting one for me. I will never forget it and I can't imagine you not doing it 10 times better than the others.
JCS has that on their Patreon. This is Monsters covered that, and even had a private interview with his Father. And Explore With Us covered that as well. This channel needs to come up with new, never-explored before videos, like Coffeehouse Crime does, if he wants more viewers. Fantastic videos, but lack of subs and views is beyond sad.
Thank you, both! It would be nice to have more subs and views, there is nothing I would like more than to be able to create content for a living. A distant dream, really... But, I am truly grateful for the community that I do have. You have all been so supportive, and a driving force in me wanting to continue, and try new things. Just over a year and a half ago I had never tried anything like this, no experience or knowledge about journalism, video editing, voice recording and mastering, and you all help me feel like Ive been doing it for years with your praise. I am humbled, truly. I try to find lesser known cases, and have even started a few. Sometimes the episode boils down o what kind of visual media is available, or what kind of court documents I can find. I have a few paid subscriptions to archive sites and a few court repositories, but often the visual media stops very short of where I hope. The stories are almost always interesting, but if the story doesn't grab me emotionally, or maybe I lose that emotional response, I will drop the episode almost immediately. A creative caveat, or to me, artistic integrity. Originality definitely means something to me, and this channel. But not in the way of subject matter, rather how the subject matter is presented. The sheer amount of content that chapter, Matt Orchard and the likes put out, I would never be able to keep up. That isn't my goal anyways. I think the subs will come, in time, I hope. I am admittedly the absolute worst at promoting my own channel, I haven't really done much, outside an obligatory Facebook post for each new episode that reaches the handful of people in my friends list that watch the channel. All of you have found your way here organically, and that feels great. I know its well past time to start taking this seriously, marketing wise, but truth be told I don't even know where to start, and highly doubt I would have the time to be able to lead a proper marketing run, keep up with all the posting, a discord (something I only recently found out about and only kind of understand), merchandise... The immensity of it all is overwhelming and makes me feel like an old man :/ And all this rambling just to say thank you. Thank you. All of you.
@@LPRPresents Eloquent and gracious are a couple more words I would use to describe you. And your subs are coming. Lesser known is great for sure but you should cover any case that grabs you. That is exactly why your videos are done so well; it's evident you immerse yourself and you spin the story-telling in a different and more heart-felt way than almost all other creators do. So even a case that has been covered by other people can still make exceptional content for you because you make it your own anyway. And, honestly, there are some cases which are so "popular" that people will watch anything and everything associated with the case, regardless of repeated information. (Chris Watts, for example, though I am not trying to suggest you cover that.) Thank you for doing it how you do it and I will continue spreading your good name. Happy New Year!
I hunted everywhere for your channel over October/November. Did you disappear or am I imagining it? Glad to see you uploading great content again. Always so well put together and immaculately presented. Excellent👌
I was swamped with RL work, and didn't release anything for those months :/ Kip Kinkel has been 2 months in the making, you didn't miss anything ;). Thank you for your support!
Sad all around, mental health, people dont listen or understand if they aren't going through it themselves. The victims, they didn't deserve to be taken out.
Comments like this give me pause, yourz is a doozy. Lol As truecrime viewers, we're peering into the lowest frequencies on earth, the evol realm. What's so exciting ?
@@tracysmith2731 it’s mostly because we truly enjoy Darren’s work and want him to understand the level of our appreciation. It’s not thanking him and being excited for the crimes themselves. It’s more of an excitement because of his amazing work and dedication to every production he posts.
Another great episode. Kids with guns are terrifying and if they try to allow it here will be strongly against it. Such a sad tale which potentially could have been avoided if his mental health was better investigated. Good his sister still has contact but it must have had such a huge impact on her life 😒
I find the conversation in the interrogation at the end of this video quite fascinating. I’d be curious at the rationalisation while talking to a schizophrenic who insists they had no choice. It would be interesting to debate with them on exactly how and why they believed they had no choice. They always have a choice. Knowing he was about to commit crimes and clearly had prior sorrow and misery at feeling he had to do it, showing clear moral awareness. Couldn’t he have decided to turn himself in rather than carry out wrong doings
You should do an episode about the murder of Gabriel Fernandez. It was a truly senseless and horrific murder of a child, all because his mother’s boyfriend thought he was gay. It fits perfectly with the theme of your channel.
I’ve thought about covering this tragic story more than once, I even started the script. The story is so soul crushing I had to stop-the rage I feel towards his mother and boyfriend cannot be understated. I do want to cover it though, maybe I will build up the strength to power through it at some point… something harder than a thick skin is definitely needed
Why are so many parents giving kids guns ?! Im all for healthy father son time but I can't ever get behind some parents turning their kids loose with a gun. It's not just illegal but I hope the parents can be charged with facilitating the crime
Another beautiful piece of analysis and research. One day soon the YT algorithm will realize your work is amazing. Until then you remain a criminally underwatched creator. Thank you for your videos.
The track is leave by Mattia Vlad Morleo. I tried to find it on RU-vid for you but it isn't listed here. I pay for music licenses so it might not be available on a public site.
The lack of gun control here in the US never ceases to amaze me. I thought on the day Sandy Hook happened that of course we will make changes to the ease of acquiring firearms; but we know how that went. Gun culture here is a pathology.
All due respect, gun control is not the issue here. Please don’t use the tragedy that our State suffered as an angle for all of that. The issue was a very sick kid with no respect for human life. Raise your children with an emphasis on respecting human life. Pay attention to your children, don’t assume they’re okay. Get them help when they need it (and be consistent). It was Kip who made the choices he made and who carried out the senseless attacks. The blame falls squarely on his shoulders for those actions. Not on any inanimate object, his parents or anyone else.
@@zachariah9739 💯 and also wanted to emphasize to not just assume a child is ok if they say they are. Pay attention to their actions more than the words. Children/teenagers will hide their emotions for fear of getting in trouble, being made fun of or simply because they are scared of them.
@@ChiefSlacc Plenty of children bond with their fathers through weaponry. Whether it be hunting or as a shooting sport as in going to a gun range and/or entering competitions. Plenty of children do NOT open fire whilst in a school after killing their parents. I’m not part of the problem. Gun control has been a continual debate for centuries. I’m not going to continue to enter into this debate with you. I simply wanted to point out to any possible parent, that children’s actions need to be watched vs just going with the assumption that they are ok because they say they are ok.
@@ChiefSlacc You’re part of the problem by trying to demonize people for having interests that are different than your own. I’ve grown up with guns. My kids, too. Cousins, nieces and nephews, and zero gun related incidents. As I said before, place the blame where it belongs. Stop trying to politicize our tragedy.
I definitely have... But, there's some backstory. I remember waaaayyy back during the Wild West of the internet, Napster, Newsgroups, msn chatrooms, all the 'Chans', and a variety of 'gore' channels were pretty much the norm. Cams were just starting to make a rise on the cyber scene, and like everyone else, graduated from text chats to cam rooms. Late one night I was cruising the web, and came across this crazy cam. It was dark, one guy, or it could have been a girl, lay topless on a table of some kind, and another shadowy figure kept popping in and out of camera, it was pretty boring but techno was playing and the chat was alive. I kind of half watched as I cruised some webpages in another window, but then I glanced over and saw what I thought looked like a knife being playfully stuck in the person laying down. I took an immediate second look, but dismissed it as fake: The guy doing the stabbing was laughing about it and taking requests from chat, and the person lying down was not resisting. It had to be fake. I watched with more intensity. The chat was going crazy. People were weighing in constantly, it was fake, it was real, do this do that... The guy with the knife obliged. Eventually, he started cutting cubes of flesh off. This is when I realized what I was watching was a live murder. I continued watching for a moment, with a morbid fascination, but left the page as a sick feeling overtook me. I couldn't stay away though, and went back. The stream started chopping in and out, the broadcaster pausing the cam, or signing out entirely... but he also came back. I eventually left altogether, and didn't return. I remember concluding that it was fake, the guy lying on the table was not resisting at all, and when the camera would show his face he did not look in distress. fake. The next day the Chans blew up. What I had watched the night before was indeed Luka Magnotta live streaming the murder. This livestream seemed to be something commonplace at the time, if I remember correctly, and people were committing suicide live, or posting horrendous things online like 3 guys 1 screwdriver, and all the other holy grails of the internet gore days. It affected me greatly. At some point, I found the entire stream all zipped up for download on one of the Chans. Along with it, were all the cat videos. I should have never opened those zips, and watched those videos. Im not even sure why I downloaded it, or searched for it in the first place. Even now, writing this, I feel light headed, with a spinning recollection of those horrible videos, and those horrible people. So while I have thought about doing the Magnotta case, started research even, I don t think I will. His life is too horrific. Even more shocking now, is that he has said that he is happy, behind bars, he has all he ever wanted, fame. He has a boyfriend and the prison he is in allows much freedom, acting like more of a barracks than penitentiary. Horrible.
@@LPRPresents wow! I didn't expect this reply to be so deep and detailed. I'm sorry that you felt very ill about Luka's actions (and still do) Luka obviously had issues growing up but that doesn't give him the right to take a life of an innocent person.
@@LPRPresents Wow! Yea, this would be an extremely difficult episode to work on and would be very mentally exhausting. Completely understand not doing it. There is a show on Netflix all about it and it was the first I’d heard about it. It shows some of the clips and I was shocked to say the least.
@@LPRPresents OH yes, its a very sad story. .... but.......with all your talents and knowlege.... i would be thrilled it if you would ........ its our world.... maybe a project for the retirement..... ;)
This case is devastating for everyone involved, untreated mental illness can be deadly and NEEDS to be treated with the utmost urgency and importance, though I also empathize with the victims in their fear of Kinkel being released. It's so sad considering his family only wanted the best for him, I'm sure the mental burden of having committed the crimes Kinkel did is absolutely torturous, and locking him up truly doesn't solve anything. I believe that he was not mentally sane at the time of the crimes and therefore shouldn't have recieved the punishment he got, as well as the fact that he should not have been tried as an adult. This case is soul shattering and I can only hope time will provide everyone involved the ability to heal.
I remember when this happened thinking oh fucking hell his parents, he killed his parents and then went to school. The soundtrack got under my skin and made this hopeless story even more despairing.
The parents really sounded like amazing people. But they were foolish and stupid in ceasing the medication and therapy immediately upon seeing successful results. I mean that is so blatantly stupid. Recovery and improvement can’t become long-term and long-standing just after it begins habitualising. It needs time to become more concrete and behaviourally rudimentary
I am surprised I had not heard this, a high schooler at that time. Kip and his family are victims as much as everyone. Mental Health in 2022 is still highly stigmatised and some people treat us as criminals just for having been diagnosed. The mind is part of the body and mental health needs to be treated as such. This could have all been avoided. I am sorry to everyone involved. LPR Brilliant video as always!
The problem is multifaceted. The truth is, the reason so many people look down on mental “health” as a legitimate problem is because SO MANY PEOPLE USE IT AS AN EXCUSE. I’m a 36 year old fully disabled combat veteran, I am also an Atheist. Therefore I don’t share the same feelings and opinions as some. I remember being deployed to combat AOR’s with people and they would be PERFECTLY FINE and than suddenly whenever they’d act out or act stupid, they’d claim “PTSD” despite the fact they were in the same place doing the same jobs as me and I knew EXACTLY what they had and had not seen and done. They didn’t suffer PTSD, they wanted an EXCUSE. Now I’m NOT saying EVERYONE who claims to suffer from a mental “illness” is lying. I’m merely pointing out that it is unreasonable to expect us to believe that everyone who claims to suffer from a mental illness actually does. I think there wouldn’t be anywhere near the stigmatism around it that there is if so many people didn’t use it as a CRUTCH FOR EVERYTHING! The reality is 80-85% of the people in this country suffer from some form/fashion of depression. I don’t think that’s an exaggeration either. You factor that in with all the other “mental illnesses” as well as big pharma wanting to get even more money so they have these so called “doctors” start writing prescriptions to ANYONE AND EVERYONE!! They end up getting YOUNG KIDS hooked on them and many drugs end up turning the kids into zombies. My cousin was on Ritalin for ADD and he ended up a miserable zombie who never ate. Yes it does help some people, but it hurts others. Just like the coof jab but that’s another matter entirely. We as a country need to do better in regards to mental health that much is painfully obvious. However there also needs to be a way to separate the ones who are BS’ing or exaggerating because that does NOTHING but make it harder for skeptics like myself to believe anyone.
Ok perfect. I was wondering if he did or not, so it's good to have this type of validation. ALMOST fired him after this episode. You just threw him a lifeline.
felt bad about things to struggle with is very hard in people search things isn’t one you still struggling can’t do it come bad this kid is difficult with him before 9 sessions in therapy with physicist his dad not to excited about it
I’ve seen many videos about this case lately and all I can say is that this boy and his victims were all failed miserably. Throughout kips entire childhood he was consistently failed.
felt alone is because upset after took Kipland kinkel in psychiatrist about him police found the weapon inside his room also made bombs to study them his serious look on kipland face it was upsetting and took fire on the school
If you name your kid "Jeeves" his life and career choices are pretty limited. Then there was the story of the "Boy Named Sue" but if you name your kid "Kipland" (and they call him "Kip" for the rest of his life) it's a given that he's gonna freak out and somebody will have to throw a net over him SOMEDAY...
got told is about sister was talented isn’t fair because but she’s at college and he was left with parent with no experience so why everyone good at it to . Kelsey said his friend will go on
got that age of kids in school any violent way of him but he took pistol in school locker room in age of 15 if you want to have a choice since after the shooting inside the cafeteria so bad just not the teachers and the parents with their kids
@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 I usually listen with my ear buds in. Maybe that’ll help. Plus you don’t miss anything being said and can full engross yourself in the video.
