Klee Irwin - Why Use an 8-Dimensional Shape to Describe 3-Dimensional Reality? 

I like how he had to pretty much back track through his mind to understand how this concept made sense to him in the first place. Dimensional thinking

It may be beneficial to reverse the metaphor of father and mother, because in Hinduism there is shiva and Shakti. Shakti is the action, the energy, through her shiva maintains the universe. I know it’s a random comment but I just think there is a beautiful framework already existing to metaphorically being this idea into the grasp of ordinary people

Sounds like the sun (Father) and the Earth (Mother) making a mathematical product inside the Biosphere.

Wrong question.

Kind of sounds like the Phoenix theory of quantum entanglement.

Are we as humans a projection of something in a much higher dimension? And if so, according to Klee, can we obtain information about our "E8 counterpart" just by studying ourselves? 😁😊💖

I'm curious what the "hyper-vector or hyper-projector" is conceptually. I have also considered if we were merely information on the event horizon of a higher dimensional blackhole being holographically projected through the singularity to appear as a physical universe. My biggest problem with this idea is how the information is being projected into a lower dimensional form. What is projecting and what exactly is being projected by it?

As a lay person who has been interested in physics since the 1970s, I find these theories exciting. Please keep uploading videos of your thought processes.

Here from Shawn Ryan Show w Billy Carson

Since reality is the information we might find coded information about dimension in the ancient languages e.g. according to Georgian language the sun have 9 eyes

I’m so amazed by Klee and his creative thinking, somewhere deep inside I feel he’s right even though I only understand 1% of what he says, mostly because of all the technical terminology, I get the principle but would love to hear his thoughts translated into something a bit more digestible for the less initiated.

Excellent food for thought in this video. You mentioned "unpack" "recover", coming from an engineering background, this sounds like you are trying to say "reverse engineer", this has been one of humanity's biggest conundrums which was not possible to reach until we have exhausted understanding of all the parts of the whole in science and then also see to it why we can't go any further. Worthy of mention is that we have exhausted search efforts at extremely expensive proton colliders/accelerators such as CERN. Historically, we have never really tried to "deeply" or "hypothetically" reverse-engineer the process of life, our own existence along with our collective interpretation of emergence down to the organized rigid crystalline structure to the extent that you guys (Klee et.al.) are doing. Using the child as a product of a mother and father analogy will be the way to move forward with advanced understanding and eventually unification of physics and subatomic physics. Everything, even knowledge of things or "gnosis" emerges with time, given the right environment, circumstances and sequences (patterns) and the right people at the right time. Also, "reality isn't 8-dimensional", I agree, it's not a good way to use in describing reality. Reality is superfluous, always moving, appearing and reappearing, dispersing and rejoining or regathering in clusters (clusters of thought). Once you bring in water or any other fluous substance and use it to describe how the E8 behaves when it meets such fluous substances (which appear liquid in its behavior-observed or simulated in computer) then we might be able to describe the mechanics of "reality" as we have come to understand its many parts and universal scales today. I think we all now know (or some have always known) and can all agree that everything unifies with one another at some or many universal points in the scale of things. We are back at the problem of how do we communicate it all in a more simplified language. Perhaps our search is now in how do we devise a way to "bridge" everything in let's say, one big complete image or diagram. It's as if we almost have to make adjustments to our current system of language and especially that of mathema'tics. But as I see it, there is still much nailing down of space and time before we make huge leaps forward. One solution is to continue to seek spiritually that which we long for while in pursuit of work/efforts to unify physics or come to closer in understanding and discerning our spiritual nature. I hope this makes sense as I am running short on time. I may come back to edit this comment if time allows.

Wow beautiful theory! I seem to recall someone else in history who pondered about mapping the geometry of extra dimensional fields. Thanks for the upload :)

5:55 Well one might say that was an odd break in the 8th wall.

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So imagine sitting in the movie theatre the father is the light/information source the mother is the lense and our dimension and reality is what’s on the screen

We live in a "shadow world."

I like how you keep all the real discussion and explanations.

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So what dimension do one call the smallest places, quantum physics.. Where it is no materia, only frequences that makes up our 3-d world...frequences that make our world. Ive smoke DMT a couple of Times and I was sure ive Come down to a quantum mechanical space,, where there were beings made out of frequences and Light,,, frequences give away... These ones were loving but since they where operating on frequences that felt 5 to8 ore even 11 th dimension everything went to fast since they morphed into 4-dimensional objects hat did the same in hyperspacetime... These things builded the most beautiful objects ive seen.... our material 3-d world are builded with frequences and Light. How can our universe be built out of none solidmaterial by what seemed to be like beings made out of mega complex geometri and Light wthin different frequences that made itself

Reminds me a lot of Gnostic thought.. The 8D quasicrystal could be the Demiurge, and the projector could be the Pleroma.

Ahhhh so emergence! The product is great than the sum of the parts! Great video :)

Shaping matter in the time domain increasingly becomes possible?

really loved it ,the concept of 4d quasicrystal encompassing more information than the parent object is really mindboggling.

Thanks Klee. Father intuition is telling me your E8 crystal lattice is the code to reflect how ones visual cortex interprets the visual dimension, cool. So that could make E8 crystals the fundamental structure of our 3D matrix yeah?

This is fine but and good but doesn't explain why or how I am so stupid?

Wow I consider myself intelligent but not that intelligent it would take me some time to understand what he’s talking about they need to use visualization words don’t describe things like a picture like that Saying a picture paints 1000 words

So what is the father (projecting) entity? Consciousness originating in 8D or higher that "illuminates" &/or "actualizes" the quasi-crystalline structures in the lower dimensions?

This is very interesting. The statement about how the upper dimensional objects are actually much simpler makes sense. After all, scientist I believe feel that the "Theory of Everything" should be a very simple object or construct. The complexity of our Standard Model and other models are so because of our ignorance on how to project our 4-D world back onto the upper dimensional object. I will keep following these geometric ideas of how the Universe might work.

It's crazy he's talking straight magick

Very typical. Scientists expect you to accept a concept with no explanation to build more complex ideas. Anything beyond 3 dimensions is purely a concept and theoretical. I invite this dude to explain the 8 and 4 dimensional crystals. I'll buy lunch and coffee and listen attentively.

Please study the Great Pyramid. I think you'll realize that its veiled 8 sides embodies your theory. Tesla also knew this and he created his Tower in the shape of an octagon. Somebody knew this about the universe a long time ago.

Does this mean that that the 8th dimension is the graphics processor of this universe?

Hilarious. I love how he struggles to keep a straight face as he spews this nonsense. Especially whenever he mentions unification physics.

Quasicrystal = protomolecule?

The simplest shape in 3 dimensions is a sphere dummy! Not a tetrahedron.

i like how i thought i could kinda possible partially understand any of this.

Lased light is used to make the shadow?. Just me thinking here not sure if I am right or wrong

Im here because i just want to know if i can teleport off this earth!

Like holographic principal or something but with more?

But there are 8 dimensions, not 4. Otherwise, humans only experience 3 1/2 dimensions. What's half a dimension?

[comment No53] Superluminal speeds(ftl of stars. Thales's theorem, speed of darkness vs speed of light..see youtube videos for more) telling in symbolic way what Tesla's multiplication table showing: that 3 or square is material object, that circle is light (or soul figuratively). My faSCInation with NoHMber 38 or 83 or 138 or 833(DNA related- see cshlnews video from Bruce Stillman # 65) begun 5 years ago, but last 2 I had synCHronisation(CH as 38) of a kind. I started to notice masonic way of building things, learn some new hermetic rules. And came across video about Lie's algebra. Or groups. Algebra is math way of manipulation in order to simplify or find order in chaos. Or seemingly random make chaotic and orded. Like hailstone problem or Collatz in meteorology or maybe in shooting 3pts and 1s.. I was wondering if squaring the circle is impossible like watching your 6... is it maybe possible to undestand better that octagon that in quasicrystalic way simulate 3d reality(or squares in which we places 7 chakras or circles)? Like dematerialisation, teleportation crystal. Maybe by engineering that everyone will come to sense and understand great idea of E8(E is 5, 3+5=8, if 5' in DNA is waht we looking for, in magic HeXagon 38 centre is hehagon with "number 5, like light switch" and "3 light out switch",,movement by which torsion became planar). In prime hexagon video I saw how moving direction to left on primes and right on composites works. In most sources I came by 5 as pentagram, pentagon, penthouse, Venus way, PYthagora has something to do with God. In numerical systems 888 is God. I have 88 Pythagorean system. (Pytha is spiral same meaning sanskrit, like penta 5. Y(odd finger of God, why cell O becomes G and later C in proteins..name maybe suggest odd numbers some of which are primes) is base for platonic solids. Invisible(dark?!) Right hand rule. Gorian is maybe gore or up- like spins pehaps as astrological symbols Mars and Uranus , G is 7, perhaps circle is 8, usually part that connect G into O is South). Basketball has 8 sides, 3 visible in 1 sight.

so is 3 dimensional reality a fractal of 8 dimensional reality?

How about the 12th dimension instead of the 8th?

4d > 8d time ... same 4d flat time but 8d all direction in time

I'm not a scientist ... but does this guy talk around a point? What are you saying?

He could’ve used the example of being a 2 dimensional character appearing 3D to us as simply a recording of him talking to us on RU-vid.

But why stop at E8 and not say that it is a projection of a higher dimension, that itself is a projection of a higher dimension etc... The question asked at 5:15 was on point I think and that's exactly what I'm missing. Why define a lower dimensional quasi-cristal by its eight dimension and specifically this one ? At 7:03 Klee Irwin talks about someone seeing the projection of a cube in 2D and then going either in higher or lower dimensions. But then he says the quasi-cristal is a 3D shadow of an 8th dimension. Why did he choose eight or stopped at eight when looking at higher dimensions of our 3D world ?

The 2d r, is designed for the system to work, 4d aka in 2d how do you objectively navigate or see a corner or start turning corners..... on a flat surface? See the 4d rotating vid/image pls see now and imagine it. Flat > inside > flat.

Question : How are 4 , 5 etc dimensions geometric objects( ex hypercube or 600cell) linked to higher dimensions from physics ( ex. string theory 10 or 11 dimensions)? According to physics, fourth dimension isnt conceivable by observation but takes place in the subatomic level ( it can be linked with time , providing different possibilities at the same spatial dimension). In the fifth dimension, we would see a world slightly different from our own that would give us a means of measuring the similarity and differences between our world and other possible ones. In the sixth, we would see a plane of possible worlds, where we could compare and position all the possible universes that start with the same initial conditions as this one and so on until the 11th.. So how is your reference to higher dimensions linked to that one theorised by physicists or are they completely different things? Anyone knows? Thanks

Trippy.. I was just imagining essentially everything he says in this video while driving in my car. Decided to do a RU-vid search asking “do atoms exist in another dimension” randomly click on this video after scrolling a bit and this guy literally starts describing what I was imaging. Wild synchronicity.

It is expected from the unification of the Newtonian and the cosmic dynamics that there is a need for an additional potential called the dual Newtonian potential and a higher dimentional isotropic flat space - time to account for the solar system dynamics. The expected space - time is composed with 9 space dimensions and 4 time dimensions. It is expected on the other hand from non-zero value of the speed of light at the esrth's position and the coincidence between the center of observable universe and the earth's position the existence of Multiverse gathering 419 universes of the same mass and the same size as the observable universe. We think that the the complex Lie group E8 of dimension 248 can be considered as a simple real Lie group of dimension 496. This means that we can serve with the E8 Lie group of dimension 496 as a fundamental structure of the Multiverse gathering exactly 496 universes including 419 elements inward and 77 elements outward relative to the earth's position in the Multiverse.

What is there to extrapolate? You already have the eight dimensional object mapped or you wouldn’t be able to project it. Why take 8d math, represent it in 3D, and use that representation to extrapolate presumably the same 8d math you started with? Do you just like the pattern it makes or something? Also if it exists in 8d then why would combining it with whatever function you used to transform it add anything of substance?

Basicly information menifesting

Klee, fascinating! How about TL=MC^2 "C" to help along as far as explaining.? Just a thought.

I need Sheldon to dumb this down for me

so you people know all this and yet you still cant develop any technology that materializes a 3d object, from a 8d laser beam lol

What is a 3 simplex? Tetrahedron. Why is this 3D shape specifically chosen as the symbol to represent the language of particles and their energies and transformations?

Wow I wonder how the trinity of God father son and holy spirit could be some form of higher dimensional consciousness structure.

the premise of stacked spheres, is in my opinion wrong. do the math with toroidal spheres. which are a stable resonance fields. mum and dad are jus

I love listening to Klee. He makes physics clear to dummies like me.

Anyway you guys could better described the projector I'm having a little trouble understandingt

E8+¹ Affine (Extended)

I’m starting to realise what eastern philosophy meant when it described our reality as an illusion

So is the “hyper vector” in the same dimension (8th) as E8? Or in a higher dimension?

I'm a complete novice when it comes to physics, but I have a question regarding this video: during the explenation Klee gives around the 3rd dimension being more complex than the higher dimensions due to the fact it's a product of emergence from two co-efficients (the 'mother' and 'father'), would that not insinuate that the 2nd dimension is more complex than the 3rd dimension, following the same logic?

3D > 6d pairing = 3 physical dimensions 6 dimensions of freedom.

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It is easy say something whatever it comes in our mind, you can attached mathematical formula to prove it to, however we have to also prove physical existence all dimensions, the only way you can do that you have to see what is visible and what is not visible, we have total of 6 dimensions 3 visible and 3 non visible.

So gravity is an emergent force and is the pervasive universal conciousness.

3/8 = 🌎

AWESOME....NOW I GET IT

So the entropy runs up and down the scale proofing one and other?

Would the hyper vector work in the other direction? A single one dimension, plus time. Gives birth to two dimensions. Plus time etc. As though the one dimensional universal expansion, (time) is the driving force of all? Emergence from gauging over time.

I see a radius that gets stretched slightly from baseline during each perpendicular equalizing force process . two things in contrast, mechanical and abstract, with the observer as the guage. no one dimension, no four dimensions

To have a shadow projection requires a light source and something that negates the effects of the light source to cause contrast, so both the light source and the shadow itself are aspects of the quasi-crystal. Is there a way to include this manifold concept in your theory?

i find a littler odd how physics can say 2d or 1d without being conservative but saying a dimension higher than the 3 dimension as a real dimension is a like a taboo :D. I'm not considering time as being the 4 dimension :d

But why project from 8 dimensions to 4 dimensions? Why not from 8 dimensions to 3 dimensions directly?

How Quasicristal is produced or what does it mean "projection" from 8 dimensional cristal or E8 lattice?

He doesn’t answer the question in my opinion so i’ll take a crack. We use the 8th dimension to explain our reality because when the quasicrystal of the 8th dimension is perceived by humans it is in 4D. We can then project that shape into three dimensions which is then a complex combination of tetrahedrons that can only be arranged in a certain pattern because they are geometric shapes. That pattern is what he defines as the “code.” Now in theory (at least in my mind) the quasicrystal of the 16th? dimension could be projected to 8D and then perceived by 6 dimensional creatures/life forms to explain their reality. Someone correct me or let me know if this is somewhat comprehending emergence theory.

I wonder if Banach-Tarski applies here somehow

We see 2 dimensions like frames but we feel we are in a 3 dimensional space that we experience from a first person perspective until we die and that applies to each individual animals also

Ball on ball?

I enjoy your posts a lot but I missed the answer to the question on this one. I'm also interested in an explanation of how you translate from one dimension to another and where did you find the initial pattern to use for translating. I think that the Flower of Life is the blue print for reality btw.

how do i get on this..?

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My question is: if we describe or represent the physical word with this 8-dimensional object, 3-dimensions can be treated as x, y, z coordinates, what's the rest 5 dimensions mean? is it time, acceleration, ... ?

Love you guys, keep up the good work

Really confused with this 8 dimension stuff.

So people who are blind in one eye only see in 2 deminsion? Lol

8:00 yes, don't leave out the "projector". When you see how it self projects you will understand.

"Father projector" sounds like god. Oh dear, do we have an explanation for the "projector"? Or does invoking god indicate E8 math is not physical? What about (E9)*(2time)? Warning; god is here too. Manifests as the event horizon that constructs all, by informing/maintaining the path/vectors of super fluid that surrounds it. I like to say, "maintenance of the pattern or code". ie Resonance 18.

Would not a more immediate analogy be the that view of you on RU-vid - is 2 dimension - that we extrude to 3d in our mind (whether or not we have 3d screens!).

So the hyperdimensional vectors 'language of the Father' projects with a 4D crystalline aka the language of the Mother, to create the tiling structure of reality. My mind has just been blown. The implications are very interesting, hippy tech alien world an all, but any way to test these eloquent maths?

He's obsessed with quasicrystal as usual. He needs broader vocabulary :D

The simplest geometrical shape formed within the Universe is a sphere! If the Universe is based on a geometrical process of spherical symmetry forming and breaking our maths could be based on this geometry, but the problem is the process also forms the potential for abstract mathematics that we see unfolding in the E8 geometry!

I wonder if the so called “father” projector casting “light” on the "mother" 8D quasicrystals space substructure is what defines the “child/shadow” or the expression of matter in the universe. Resulting in the creation of Baryonic mater emerging as dualistic pairs relative to the golden ratio. As appose to dark matter and energy which could potentially be expressed likely in infinite ways relative to the “angle” of the “father light” to the 8D foundation. I suppose the first attempt to test this would be to try to observe the interactions of dark matter and see if they follow the golden ratio the way typical mater does or if it expresses some other formation via a different geometric ratio. Perhaps it wont exist in pairs but singles or triples or whatever weird thing the geometry does. Making it more or less non-interactive with us. That would mean the universe was a "solid" object composed of different phases of matter some of which created the material of space. Like black on a screen.

This episode is epic!!! ^o^

But what is acheived by getting the information from the quasicrystal?