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Klein Tools VDV Scout Pro3 Tester w PoE Model VDV501-853

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Not too long ago the Klein Tools VDV kit was upgraded to include PoE, which the previous Scout Pro3 didn't have. Confused? Then follow along as we take you through all the buttons and demo some of its many features. If you are doing any sizable Voice, Data or Video cable work this is one kit to consider.
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14 авг 2024

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@torbjrnfjeld1799 3 года назад

Nice review of a great tool!! I have the non-PoE version myself, but the newer one is on its way and I’m looking forward to it! A helpful tip with regards to a feature you mention at time stamp 6:12 and onwards: Long press (more than 2 seconds) the ethernet button (or any of the top row VDV buttons) to turn on the loop function... the display will briefly say "LOOP ON" and the tester will then update/test continuously. This info is well hidden in the manual (and for intuitive tools like this, hardly anyone reads them), but it’s there. You can long press again to turn loop off, or just turn off the tester. Default when you power it on, is loop off. "LOOP ON" is very helpful for intermittent failures and would quickly change to a fail reading if you disconnect (or cut) the wire and come back if you plug it in again. I needed this to diagnose faulty sockets which gave intermittent short circuits because of an unfortunate placement of the spring that would close the shutter. The coil of the spring would contact the soldering joints for IDC 4 and 7 and create a short circuit, but with loop off, it was almost impossible to catch that. I wish the loop could be set to come on by default, but it can’t as far as I know. But it’s there, so both ways are indeed available! I hope you find this helpful!! 😊

@cfldriven 3 года назад

Torbjørn Fjeld, indeed a great tool and while not an everyday tool for me, it did solve some wiring issues very quickly. Thank you for explaining how to enable the LOOP function and make this tool even more useful. Always great to be able to share and learn from others. Hope you enjoy the new version.

@eostrike Год назад

I used to have a Fluke DSP-4300 cable analyzer which would tell you which end the issue is on this tester as you found this tester will not tell you which side since the numbers on the top of the connector are fixed 1 - 8 and will never change. So my suggestion is once you test the wire and find it is not wired correct to just check the wiring on the main side first since you are there. If that looks good then go to the remote side and check there. If the issue was on the main side then you fix it you can then retest since you still have the remote plugged in at the remote side. Nice video presentation.

@cfldriven Год назад

Eric, thank you for the helpful advice and feedback.

@jasonsewell3192 Год назад

I like to shoot a tone off the open pair and see if I can pick it up a ft or 2 past the termination. If I pick it up still then most likely it's on the other side. Of course that only works with open pairs and not reversed.

@jacobnussbaum2309 2 месяца назад

Does this allow testing of high end video coax like 12g-sdi with a F to BNC adapter?

@oilman1758 3 месяца назад

I bought this tool just the other day VD501-853 model. Only add on I would of loved to see is you can control the speed of the Switch/Hub light blinking. Other than that it's perfect for me. This unit also tells you what wiring config is used. Over all worth the money. Far better than the $20 tester.

@cfldriven 3 месяца назад

After 3yrs wasn't sure they still sold this model. Delighted to see the video was helpful and you are pleased with the product. Thank you for sharing your story.

@HiltonRalphs 3 года назад

The only thing I'd like them to add in the future is the ability to hub/switch blink on a PoE port.

@cfldriven 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing and watching the video.

@Tapionski Год назад

Agreed. Most business enable POE on all ports by default for phones, WAPs, etc. So not really that useful.

@whatusername1234 Месяц назад

@6:13 if you want it to update continually, hold down the data button and the screen display will show loop on . At this point it will keep testing every second or so( hold data button again and the screen will show loop off). Useful feature for testing cable at stress points .

@cfldriven Месяц назад

Thank you for sharing this helpful tip!

@orestesdd Месяц назад

How can I identify if my jr45 jacks in my new home are set to T568A or T568B. I took a picture of one of them, but I can't tell anything from the picture. I ask this because I may have to re-do all of them (about 8 or 10) and I don't know how much spare ethernet cable I will have inside the wall. If it is not much, I have to be very careful when I wire the cables with a new and better jr45. Thank you.

@johnkaldas9285 2 года назад

I wonder what length would be shown if one wire of one the pairs is faulty (had a cut in the middle or something). I am asking since the device seems to show the length for each pair not for every individual wire.

@cfldriven 2 года назад

The manual states "the test will initiate on the first wire with no faults found." Sounds like it skip faulty wires.

@danav3387 2 года назад

The length feature works best when nothing is attached but the tester. The measurements will always be different on each pair, you can't certify with this machine but you can get an accurate estimate of cable length.

@cfldriven 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing your experience, much appreciated.

@ntag411 2 года назад

The PoE feature of this VDV, like most VDV, is only a voltage reading not actual power. The Trend Networks PoE Pro will actually dynamically test the power availability of the PoE up to a max of 90W.

@luissalguero686 2 года назад

that's what I was thinking, going to get the trend networks one

@awakenedsoul2638 Год назад

Let me ask you a question! Will this test a rollover and crossover cable correctly or this Network Cable Tester is only to test Straight Through Cable?

@amodelanime2 2 года назад

Great video! thanks and disappointment this thing is expensive and so lame since the HUB don't even show which port or switch is connected, bought yesterday and returned today!

@cfldriven 2 года назад

Thanks for the feedback and for sharing your experience.

@ntag411 2 года назад

Probably the Klein units only scans or samples once the function key is pressed. Perhaps a protection feature that disconnects the meter. Not to my liking because a continuous scanning or sampling could reveal faults like intermittent issues.

@cfldriven 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing your experience with this device.

@robertogustavolatuberza4148 2 года назад

Thank you for the video, just ordered the kit.

@cfldriven 2 года назад

I think you will really find this kit useful. Thanks for watching.

@TheStayblack Год назад

Great video. Just excellent!! Thanks for the details

@cfldriven Год назад

Thanks for watching and providing feedback.

@terrywatson4473 2 года назад

Excellent workshop 👍

@cfldriven 2 года назад

Terry, thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.

@mysticrhythms3348 Год назад

Brilliant video. Exactly what I needed

@cfldriven Год назад

Good to hear this video was helpful. Thanks for watching.

@123kdljfdl7 Год назад

If i connect normal RJ-45 port of this tester to POE-port of a switch, will that damage my tester? Especially, if POE-port will be very powerful?

@cam5816 Год назад

Ever find out?

@dvnobles Год назад

Was wondering if anyone has the answer here - in the instruction manual it says in bold letters "DO NOT" attempt to use the hub blink function when connecting to a POE port. However, they do not say WHY. Elsewhere in the manual, they say if you plug a POE into the standard RJ45 port on the device, a power icon will come up with an arrow pointing to the POE port. It doesn't. But it almost leads me to believe that you could use the POE port with hub blink. It didn't work for me, but the standard port using hub blink DOES work - it's just they say DO NOT do that and I would like to know why. Perhaps it will fry the unit? Really, the hub link is the awesome feature I need - but I have all POE switches.

@00o0oo00o00 Год назад

Do you know what happens of you accidentally plug one of the test and map into a PoE End? I've been using a fluke tester recently and everything is PoE safe including Hub blink. I just need to know how fool proof this product is.

@dvnobles Год назад

@@00o0oo00o00 Accidentally is exactly what I did - it didn't seem to hurt it, but I'm worried there is that possibility. I want to know more about what is going on there as well.

@00o0oo00o00 Год назад

@@dvnobles surly someone out there has a more detailed spec sheet about this product.

@ball_of_wires 2 года назад

There is a loop option that will automatically refresh the current status of the cable being tested.

@cfldriven 2 года назад

That is awesome news, thank you for sharing and for watching.

@andrzejkowalski3122 2 года назад

Did shows which side (meter or remote) has pins reverse(crossover)?

@TigerOscar78 5 месяцев назад

What is the tunnel feature for?

@jasonsewell3192 Год назад

Does the POE port tell you which wires are carrying the voltage?

@cfldriven Год назад

It will indicate voltage, POE+ or POE, along with wiring config A, B or AB.

@timmark4190 Год назад

What’s the difference between 852 and 853

@marcellus-br3981 2 года назад

Parabéns pela explicação, ficou muito boa

@cfldriven 2 года назад

Gracias por los comentarios y por ver el video.

@cbpuzzle Год назад

A Fluke is like $1600 and the Scout 3 does everything I've ever had to do.

@cfldriven Год назад

Nice when you don't have to pay a premium to get work done.

@HiltonRalphs 3 года назад

I haven't tested this but I'm sure you can use the Ethernet remotes to test RJ11/12 cables. I don't have analog phones anymore but I'll dig up an old cable to confirm this.

@cfldriven 3 года назад

Not how it is intended to work on this unit, they provide separate for a reason.

@HiltonRalphs 3 года назад

@@cfldriven I'm referring to a situation where you need to test more than just one RJ11/12. I've tried it with an Ethernet remote and a RJ11 (one line) cable and the tester shows both ends have pins 3&4 connected.

@cfldriven 3 года назад

@@HiltonRalphs Found this in the manual regarding RJ connectors, "Plugging 6-position plugs into the 8-position jack on the tester has the potential to damage the outer-most contacts of the jack, unless the plug is specifically designed for that purpose."

@HiltonRalphs 3 года назад

@@cfldriven Well that solves that then. What I did find is that the supplied RJ11 flylead would not physically fit into the 8P port but a normal phone cable would. They probably did this deliberately. Thanks for looking it up.

@cfldriven 3 года назад

@@HiltonRalphs Thank you for exploring the topic with me.

@ppkus 3 года назад

The top part will always be 12345678 it never changes... that does not mean the misswired is this side or the other....

@cfldriven 3 года назад

Thank you for the clarification, the text below from the manual doesn't mention they are static. TESTER-END WIRE MAP:18 Displays the pins on the tester end of the cable in order. These pins are mapped to the pins on the remote-end shown directly below them on the LCD• REMOTE-END WIRE MAP:19Displays the corresponding pin on the remote-end. Dashed lines on this row indicate shorted pins. No pin numbers displayed on this row line are open pair.

@McmM-cv9sb 4 месяца назад

A very good video Thanks.

@cfldriven 4 месяца назад

Thank you for the feedback.

@archiemisc 2 года назад

I have the 852 version and I love it. Having remote testers for tracing multiple runs at once saves SO much time. I also don't like the coax port sticking out the way it does, but what bugs me the most is that you can't re-attach the bottom terminator with an adapter barrel screwed on. I'd rather have those already on and take them off when needed than the other way around. Aside from that, it's a great kit.

@cfldriven 2 года назад

Maybe the next model will improve on these oversights. Thank you for sharing you experience w the 852.

@familycomputer9322 3 года назад

best video bro

@cfldriven 3 года назад

Thank you so much.

@gtuttle4 Год назад

How long of a ethernet cable will it check?

@cfldriven Год назад

Per manual, 1.5 ft to 1,999 ft. (0.5 m to 610 m) with 15pF/ft • Length Accuracy: (5% ft.) or (5% m)

@gtuttle4 Год назад

@@cfldriven Thanks!

@kevinwinklaar6273 3 года назад

Can this tester tells the speed of the connection? 10Mbit, 100Mbit or 1000Mbit ?

@cfldriven 3 года назад

It can tell you the length of the cable, but really meant for testing connections, shorts, open circuit, pin configuration, POE power detect, shield, and id-ing cables.

@kevinwinklaar6273 3 года назад

@@cfldriven seems like fluke is the only one that can show you that 😩

@cfldriven 3 года назад

@Mind Blown Thank you for sharing about the Triplett Byte Brothers tester. Always good to have options.

@kevinwinklaar6273 3 года назад

@Mind Blown thank you, ill take a look into it

@martinkuliza 3 года назад

@@kevinwinklaar6273 No... Incorrect Viavi ONX-580 can also do it very well it also has a wiremap feature like the klein tools does however it's much better and like the fluke , it shows a graphical representation of the wires as opposed to numbers an unlike the fluke which just shows black lines the viavi actually correctly colour codes the wires but there are other tools that do a line speed test as well it's not Just fluke and Viavi that do it , although THEY ARE THE BEST AND MOST COMMON but let's be fair also .... this unit is not a network Qualification tester like the Viavi so it's not really fair to peg this unit against the viavi you can compare same features with same features but certainly not the unit as a whole it would be like trying to compare a $20 network tester to the Fluke IQ Cable tester.... it's not even a comparison

@johnimperial9777 2 года назад

Will it workk for cat 8 cable?

@cfldriven 2 года назад

As the Cat 8 standard provides for backward compatibility with previous generations there should be no issues.

@johnimperial9777 2 года назад

Is scout pro 3 better than vdv commander?

@cfldriven 2 года назад

It is best to compare the features and see which are more important to your needs.

@RellyOhBoy Год назад

The VDV Commander is much older but it is a higher end tester than the Scout Pro 3. Pretty much does everything the Scout does plus more and it has a color screen. Its also about 4 times the price of the Scout Pro 3.

@cfldriven Год назад

@@RellyOhBoy Thank you for sharing your knowledge with everyone.

@martinkuliza 3 года назад

i have absolutely no problem with a screw on the battery compartment HOWEVER........... I've heard that THE BATTERY COMPARTMENT IS TOO SMALL FOR THE BATTERY AND THE COVER DOESN'T CLOSE COMPLETELY WHEN YOU PUT IN A BATTERY is that true ? EDIT : for the benefit of anyone reading my comment IT'S NOW BEEN I SUPPOSE, HALF A YEAR OR MORE SINCE I BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF KIT DONT WORRY, THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH IT and the battery compartment is fine, it's a good little unit, just go and get it, DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT IT I've referred this product to around 10 other techs and they also have no problems

@cfldriven 3 года назад

I have had no issues with inserting batteries and closing the cover. It is only that darn screw I have to deal with each time that annoys me.

@martinkuliza 3 года назад

@@cfldriven well that's comforting to know if it's just a screw, i'm happy i've heard A LOT OF SHIT to the effect of.... the cover won't close as a result of a manufacturing fault where the battery literally doesn't fit in the compartment good to know you don't have that problem because i've got 2 on order coming in a week Fingers crossed

@cfldriven 3 года назад

@@martinkuliza Had the battery compartment been an issue I would have certainly mentioned it in the video. I hope you enjoy your new tools.

@martinkuliza 3 года назад

@@cfldriven That's what i figured so... I'm hoping you're correct should arrive in a few days

@martinkuliza 3 года назад

@@cfldriven I'M BACK JUST THOUGHT IT'D TOUCH BASE WITH EVERY ONE AND YOU Got my 2 Units today Specifically they both are KLEIN TOOLS VDV SCOUT PRO 3 TESTER KIT which comes with - The Main Test Unit - 5 UTP (Ethernet and Phone) Remotes - 5 Coaxial Remotes - 1 F Barrell Connector - 9V Battery supplied Now.. Technically you have 6 testers because the other Coax and UTP are in the butt of the unit NOW... RE THE BATTERY THING I can see what everyone is going on about the thing is..... 1. IT'S EASY TO MISUNDERSTAND WHICH WAY TO PUT THE BATTERY IN so.. If you put it in 1 way... I AGREE... THE LID DOESN'T CLOSE and the battery is putting a lot of pressure on the wires beneath it 2. if you flip it the other way. it fits BUT IT'S A TIGHT FIT i agree that the wires are on the bottom of the battery BUT.... MY OPINION - Get a fucking soldering iron and some wire - Make the wires longer and Re Route them to the side of the battery THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO Beyond that... it seems like a cool little unit What i figured out intuitively was... the 3 buttons on the top row switch between PHONE / DATA / COAX Mode The big button at the bottom is the power button (although i didn't catch on that if you press it again there is a backlight) THE MANUAL HOWEVER. IS FUCKING AWESOME, Nice and big and well laid out the unit does not come with a soft case to protect it although i'm sure i can organize one somewhere BEYOND THAT... YEAH, I'M HAPPY i want to fuck around onsite with it a bit and compare it against Viavi ONX-580 Basic Network Tester ($20 cheapy) Fluke Cable IQ and for Tone Functions i'm going to compare it against Fluke TS-54-TDR Loop a Line, Teletech TX-916 i'll see how it goes, i imagine it'll perform better than the network tester but lesser than the VIAVI I Imagine with the fluke IQ, the Klein tools will be sort of on par or maybe lesser as for toner, i'm not sure but yeah.. so far.. I'm happy THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT MATE, i appreciate it if anyone has any other questions or wants me to do a test LET ME KNOW

@curtflirt2 3 года назад

Is the POE version really necessary or not??

@cfldriven 3 года назад

It all depends, if you don't plan on doing any POE work or have another device that can handle POE then you don't need this. I have heard of some people upgrading from the non POE just for the POE. Thanks for the question.

@curtflirt2 3 года назад

@@cfldriven Okay, thanks, Lol I just plan on making up some regular and some toothless Modular Plug Cat8 cables for myself, nothing much, no special hubs or super Networks or nothing like that.

@cfldriven 3 года назад

@@curtflirt2 Yeah at over $200 this product would be overkill. There are also lower cost devices just for data only.

@curtflirt2 3 года назад

@@cfldriven I currently have the 851 coming

@cfldriven 3 года назад

@@curtflirt2 Good versatile unit at a great price!