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Know Your Shoes : the Derby 

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Hugo Jacomet and Sonya Glyn Nicholson continue to discuss the different models of men's shoes : their styles, origins, features, and how to wear them.
This episode focuses on one of the most popular style in contemporary footwear : the Derby.

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Комментарии : 241   
@austinegabo104
@austinegabo104 6 лет назад
Wow, I have seen quite a few channels here on RU-vid discussing almost the same content like yours, but non of them has been as captivating to me like this. Awesome awesome.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you Austine ! Very much appreciated. Hugo
@metza4261
@metza4261 4 года назад
U should watch Kirby.. really good contents
@boskopantovic8302
@boskopantovic8302 6 лет назад
Since I am quite young, I haven’t been dressing in a more traditional manner. These videos and the historical insights through them are changing my perception on clothing and wear. Just bought my first pair of monk straps yesterday, and it was due to your influence. Thank you.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Haha it sounds like you caught the bug my friend. Be careful, it can become very addictive ! Yours, Hugo & Sonya
@wwerrent8079
@wwerrent8079 5 лет назад
Man, I just love the two of you. Style advice without snobbery from two genuine masters. Bien joué!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Merci Monsieur ! Hugo
@leonbridges1802
@leonbridges1802 4 года назад
Thanks Hugo and Sonya, keep us informed!!!
@Camrographer
@Camrographer 4 года назад
One of the most elegant and thorough explanations I've ever seen on the subject.
@TomTom-sj3bn
@TomTom-sj3bn 6 лет назад
Sonya and Hugo,great as always and fast becoming my favourite RU-vid channel..Keep up the great work!!
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
So glad to read that! Thank you so much Tomaz. Sonya & Hugo.
@waheebabugharsa9652
@waheebabugharsa9652 5 лет назад
Everything here is telling an authentic story of creation and pure desire for perfection with an amazing taste of originality and sense of reality ...Thank you both for these wonderful and delightful talks.
@dustyrhodes8672
@dustyrhodes8672 5 лет назад
Can’t get enough of your videos. Great content. It’s refreshing to watch someone who loves their calling!
@AMINE-yy3zb
@AMINE-yy3zb 5 лет назад
Sonya's look at Hugo while he explains is priceless. I love you guys!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 4 года назад
Haaaa, it is indeed. Cheers! Hugo
@1asturiano
@1asturiano 6 лет назад
Thank you so much to both of you for these great videos. So informative and generous of you to share years of accumulated knowledge. Truly appreciated.
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. Truly appreciated as well. Hugo
@aurktman1106
@aurktman1106 4 года назад
You are an incredible duo! Extremely informative, topics explained well, and are an absolute joy to listen to.
6 лет назад
The entire series is brilliant. Thank you so much.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you Thomas for your consideration. Cheers, Hugo & Sonya
@ArchdukeJames
@ArchdukeJames 4 года назад
I really appreciate the erudition and the clarity of explanation on this videos. Superb work.
@MLukacs
@MLukacs 6 лет назад
Hugo and Sonya, thank you for this video! I love what you are doing.
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Thank you Mike ! Hugo & Sonya
@123961000
@123961000 5 лет назад
Watched just second episode, but so much impressed... Thank you.
@balwantpadaki2707
@balwantpadaki2707 5 лет назад
Your content and presentation is outstanding! Thank you very much.
@hahahhahah6277
@hahahhahah6277 6 лет назад
I love it, please keep up with this program.
@JMalkovics
@JMalkovics 6 лет назад
I saw the first video and immediately subscribed. You can tell they are very knowledgeable and most importantly passionate about what they do. Good job Mr. Hugo and Ms. Sonya.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you Sir. Cheers ! Hugo
@abhilashsimon6952
@abhilashsimon6952 5 лет назад
Dear Hugo,I had been suffering from acute foot ache for a very long time.I visited the best Doctors and took the best medical treatment possible but the pain remained and was getting worse as time progressed.But all that is History thanks you and the knowledge I have gained about shoes from your blog.I changed my supermarket bought loafers to a pair of handmade Derby’s and my foot pain from the past 10 years has vanished.Thank you so much for this information. Wish u all the best
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Dear Simon, we are so happy for you my friend ! And we are so glad to read we've been useful and helpful. All the best, Hugo & Sonya
@fortheloveofbrum3106
@fortheloveofbrum3106 5 лет назад
Just keep your content coming. Informative, interesting and helps us appreciate the history, evolution, craftsmanship, patience and skills required to create a thing of true beauty.
@DayDreamMediaGroup
@DayDreamMediaGroup 3 года назад
Great advice from Hugo and Sonya! Those neckties are sharp, especially the one Sonya is wearing.
@stedye
@stedye 5 лет назад
Addicted in a positive way to your highly imformative episodes. Great video . Keep up the superb work you two .
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Thank you Steven ! Hugo
@lolavan7750
@lolavan7750 4 года назад
You two have great chemistry and effortlessly impart valuable information to those of us like me who were previously so confused.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 4 года назад
Many thanks for your encouragements ! Hugo & Sonya
@MustafaAydid
@MustafaAydid 2 года назад
Thank you Hugo Jacomet for the informative insight and explanation!
@seekingtruth6822
@seekingtruth6822 4 года назад
Thank you for your informative video. Sonya looks very classy and as always, Hugo is a cusp above the top. Please continue to educate us, we enjoy your videos.
@charliejose7134
@charliejose7134 4 года назад
This one, great episode. I learned a lot about the Derby. I thought I have an Oxford but it's actually a Derby shoes.
@aixpert291
@aixpert291 4 года назад
Brilliant and educational! I loved all the facts! Thank you.
@nucelom
@nucelom 6 лет назад
i'm 22 and wear mainly streetwear, i don't even know why i'm following Sartorial Talks but this videos are so amazing
@maxdominate2481
@maxdominate2481 4 года назад
@7:13 - I have double monk straps shoes in gray, black, ox blood, dark brown, tobacco, cognac, light camel brown. Also, I just acquired a pair chocolate suede and "medium/dark" patina double monks from Magnanni: people gasp at how beautiful they are. Shoe collecting is just too much fun.
@brandonbentley8532
@brandonbentley8532 5 лет назад
I have and deeply love my Leeds Blucher Oxfords...just a perfect all around design to me. Thank you Sonya for clarifying the difference between a Blucher and a Derby...very similar to the uninitiated.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 2 года назад
Sonja, it was a brilliant explanation as Hugo says. When given a compliment, accept it gracefully and continue.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS Год назад
Noted, haha. Thanks G ! ~Sonya
@girishmhapsekar3685
@girishmhapsekar3685 5 лет назад
How can anyone give thumbsdown.... to such a great content....
@jc128744
@jc128744 6 лет назад
Beautiful introduction music which, in my opinion, sets the stage very well indeed. Thank you.
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot ! Hugo
@martinnogales2259
@martinnogales2259 6 лет назад
Hugo anf sonya both of them are an masterpiece of shoes !! Its so good learn about your knowleg one more time I apreciate your points of view...
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you Martin. Hugo
@dumyjobby
@dumyjobby 6 лет назад
amazing how the shoes shown here are as incredible as the people explaining hosing. Lovely channel
@nevermore888
@nevermore888 5 лет назад
you two are now officially my two favorite person in this classic world
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Oh! What an honour ! Thank you Aquil. Hugo and Sonya
@sarangmehta999
@sarangmehta999 5 лет назад
Love d monk strap n d derby shoes shown. Very classy. Thank u for a wonderful video. Keep up the good work.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
You are very welcome ! Hugo & Sonya
@michaelgray8191
@michaelgray8191 6 лет назад
Great content. Thanks for taking the time to make such a good video.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thanks Michael for taking the time to watch and comment ! Hugo
@mattsitton6826
@mattsitton6826 4 года назад
Love your videos. Thank you for helping me dress better.
@charlesbarboza8591
@charlesbarboza8591 5 лет назад
You two are a great team. Awesome presentation, very informative and inspirational. I recently discovered your channel and have embraced your knowledge and insights into my own desire to become more of a “Gentleman”, in its most traditional and thought out definition. I guess one of the blessings of age and experience is, making the decision to embrace the many components that come with ones desire to be a more complete human being. Ultimately, it seems to be the “Journey” that holds the subtle lessons that lead us to our truth. Stay Blessed and Thank You!!!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Thank you so much Charles for your lovely contribution. Stay blessed too! Hugo & Sonya
@bernardoagustinstefanoni4257
@bernardoagustinstefanoni4257 4 года назад
tes vidéos sont les meilleures!. Salutation depuis Tucumán-Argentine :)
@wikkifoo640
@wikkifoo640 6 лет назад
Awesome second part .... Thanks Mr.hugo
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Our pleasure !
@m.allenbruce8327
@m.allenbruce8327 4 года назад
Very informative and enjoyable video. Thank you.
@johnmessersmith3881
@johnmessersmith3881 4 года назад
Your wonderful!!! Cant get enough of your videos!!!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 4 года назад
Many thanks John ! Hugo
@tparm
@tparm 6 лет назад
Thank you for the explanation, and yes it was a brilliant explanation.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for your appreciation. Hugo & Sonya
@fortimeless3299
@fortimeless3299 5 лет назад
Hugo Is An Aficionado.Great Culture 👍
@s3rmak123
@s3rmak123 6 лет назад
Amazing content
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Thank you for your appreciation. Hugo & sonya
@guitarplayer5611
@guitarplayer5611 3 года назад
Great job!
@iimaniDAVID
@iimaniDAVID 6 лет назад
Love this channel. Subscribed.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you David ! Hugo
@hashim_iraq
@hashim_iraq 5 лет назад
Love your videos.
@thevividend
@thevividend 6 лет назад
It's extremely rehreshing watching a video which includes beautiful shoes, useful info and well-dressed people talking elegantly in proper english. These are 9 well spent minutes, even though most of the features and history of the shous i already knew. Congrats!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you for your appreciation ! Cheers, Hugo & Sonya
@tsodeur
@tsodeur 4 года назад
fantastic...and also thank you for the great explanation,,,very informative...I have just purchased a pair of cobbler union shoes and I am very happy with them and also that you have taken the time to use this brand to illustrate the differences,,,they are well done shoes at an affordable price point!.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 4 года назад
Cobbler Union is indeed a good company with good products at a great value. Hugo
@FVDaudio
@FVDaudio 6 лет назад
Wonderful specimens, it should be noted.
@styzoom
@styzoom 6 лет назад
No votes down so far, well done Hugo and Sonya.
@sonyaglyn7035
@sonyaglyn7035 6 лет назад
A nice surprise! Thank you, Stef ~Sonya
@mariodelmindo
@mariodelmindo 3 года назад
I enjoy your channel very much!!!
@giultimarpg1034
@giultimarpg1034 6 лет назад
Hugo I liked so much your content thank you ! You are an great gentleman.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you for your consideration. Hugo & Sonya
@HealthyHeavyweights
@HealthyHeavyweights 5 лет назад
Wow much knowledge packed in a short time. Glad I found your channel 💯
@mcspirit
@mcspirit 6 лет назад
Would love if you could also cover correct fit of a shoe. I have worn many wrongly lasted shoes and even wrong sizes before acquiring the experience to know the fit of my foot and even still it is complicated by odd sizing of my feet. If others could be helped by a video rather than purchasing multiple pairs then they could spend their money on variety instead. Thanks for a great series. The Italian gentleman is on my Christmas wishlist.
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
That's a complex subject. But we keep your idea and we'll see if we can address it in a future episode (probably with the help of a bespoke bootmaker). Yours, Hugo & Sonya
@martinnogales2259
@martinnogales2259 6 лет назад
Love shoes !!!! Love monks traps,.one more time brillant explanation , my favorite channel , toe thumbs up
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you Martin for your appreciation and for your support. Hugo & Sonya
@DavidSaintloth
@DavidSaintloth 5 лет назад
Very important point about the DMS' comfortability to any type of foot. The height of your instep doesn't matter as much as you can simply adjust the straps over your instep accordingly and get the perfect fit in that regard...then only having the length correct is important which is easy with a proper sizing of your foot to the manufacturers size scale.
@jamesmacneil1609
@jamesmacneil1609 4 года назад
He was right, Sonya. It was brilliant. I coulodn't figure it out before. BTW. You're a lucky guy. Sonya is so lovely & classy. Envious.
@sharannbray6513
@sharannbray6513 4 года назад
Fascinating.
@Thatrollingmaster69
@Thatrollingmaster69 5 лет назад
I really like the "Monk strap" shoe and the two-islet Derby shoe !
@israelporras8306
@israelporras8306 5 лет назад
Great video
@Ayztv
@Ayztv 5 лет назад
love this channel
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Thanks! Hugo & Sonya
@goarif1
@goarif1 4 года назад
Your information sharing is priceless.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 4 года назад
Thank you for such a comment! Hugo and Sonya
@goodcat4644
@goodcat4644 6 лет назад
Thank you. These videos helps me with buying decisions. I still wonder which foot wear the middle class (teachers, solicitors, Dr's) wore during the 19 and 20th century since their coin was of modest means.
@kodipettallubaabaai8591
@kodipettallubaabaai8591 5 лет назад
Wow ! A brilliant video !
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Thank you Sir ! Hugo & Sonya
@shilabjecalvinseja1152
@shilabjecalvinseja1152 6 лет назад
Awesome narrative i have learned a lot about shoes thanks for sartorial talks...
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Thanks Calvin ! Hugo
@hidroforajconsult413
@hidroforajconsult413 6 лет назад
i see ! thank you again !!
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
My pleasure. Hugo
@joshuaesposito5409
@joshuaesposito5409 3 года назад
Just bought my new Moreschi wing tipped, two toned, brown suede/leather derby’s. Unbelievable.. Now, I need to know how to wear them. That you satirical talks for the rescue.
@stewartmetcalfe8158
@stewartmetcalfe8158 5 лет назад
Please do an episode on fragrance
@kodipettallubaabaai8591
@kodipettallubaabaai8591 4 года назад
Dear Hugo, I love jeans, please make a video on it. I like the normal ones, not the torn and distressed ones. Thanks in advance
@europeanbourgeois8223
@europeanbourgeois8223 5 лет назад
I love watching these videos and Whisky Vault videos....both make you feel happy about the fine things in life. By the way, "Derby" is actually pronounced as "Dar". Just like Gloucester is pronounced "Gloster" These are English names, not American, and thus should be pronounced the English way.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Thanks for the pronunciation lesson my friend .We'll do our best to stick to the British way!! Cheers ! Hugo
@Ibecrimedog3
@Ibecrimedog3 6 лет назад
Great video. Enjoyable content.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Thank you so much, Hugo
@PrinceRain92
@PrinceRain92 6 лет назад
Still watching it now! Incredibly helpful knowledge. Would you have give-away series? I would love to join haha
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Unfortunately not Steven ! Thank you for your comment. Hugo
@HELLCHILDFAN101
@HELLCHILDFAN101 6 лет назад
Rrally intresting im 18 and a year back i really wanted to improve my style or more like research my woredrobe and this realy helps knowing the types of shoes when to use them and where thanks again👌👌👌👌
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
You are more than welcome. Hugo
@polashadhikari5761
@polashadhikari5761 5 лет назад
Spectacular content, yes captivating, impressive background information, inspirational. Thank you. Do you have give some advice about the shoe colour, and your advice?
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Thanks for your kind words and enthusiasm. For colors, its mainly a matter of taste. Thank God. Hugo & Sonya
@GAS.M3
@GAS.M3 2 года назад
I know this video is old, but that outfit he has on is beautiful 👏😍
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS Год назад
Much appreciated ! Hugo
@PeakTorque
@PeakTorque 6 лет назад
Dear Hugo. My tailor says I shouldn't wear an Oxford or brogue for formal business suit. He says the instep is too high for the trouser break. What do you think?
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Good morning ! That's a strange advice because the Oxford (and some elegant Derbys like the two-eyelet) a perfect for a business suit, with rather low insteps. I personally wear them with very formal suits. I even wear a two-eyelet patent leather derby with my bespoke Tuxedo. Hope it helps. Hugo
@PsicheViolata
@PsicheViolata 5 лет назад
For the first question, there is no difference in formality. For the second question, it depends: In the office, with business casual outfit, they works very well; but if you have strictly formal business events, black tie events and marriages, always wear black oxford shoes.
@ashishbakre
@ashishbakre 2 года назад
Great video 👏
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS Год назад
Thanks ! Hugo
@cavl894
@cavl894 4 года назад
Wow I love shoes
@zishankassam500
@zishankassam500 5 лет назад
I find the Derby to be the perfect model of shoe to pair when wearing patterned suits and pants. I live and die by my black on grey pair of Derbys
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 2 года назад
Big thumbs up!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS Год назад
A big thanks ! Hugo
@davem8774
@davem8774 5 лет назад
Thanks for explanation. One question, a blucher is not considered as a variant of derby then?
@hungfaiwong1339
@hungfaiwong1339 5 лет назад
Hi Hugo, Great video.. on a side note, i really like your tie. where did you get it? thankss
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
This one is a custom made tie made for me by Anna Matuazzo, the Neapolitan bespoke shirt maker. Hugo
@ShaneLindie
@ShaneLindie 2 года назад
Beautiful couple!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS Год назад
Hey thanks Shane ! Sonya and Hugo
@mookeychase0907
@mookeychase0907 5 лет назад
Hugo what do you think of exotic loafers oxfords and derbys ?
@brookeggleston9314
@brookeggleston9314 3 года назад
Sonya, is your tie an Argyle and Sutherland Highlander's regimental? Mine was stolen awhile ago, and I have been searching for another one. Thanks for your time! Stay safe and healthy!🤗✨
@RodoElshoff
@RodoElshoff 6 лет назад
It would be nice to see a video with the best ocassion or best suit to pair the different types of shoes
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 6 лет назад
Good idea Rodolfo ! Cheers, Hugo & Sonya
@akatonomastos6239
@akatonomastos6239 5 лет назад
Hellas! Great video!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Thanks ! Hugo
@The_Equalizer23
@The_Equalizer23 5 лет назад
That two-eyelet derby looks magnificent! Care to share the maker? Much appreciated!
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
This model is from Cobbler Union in Atlanta. Write to daniel@cobbler-union.com on my behalf and ask him if this model is available. Cheers, Hugo
@The_Equalizer23
@The_Equalizer23 5 лет назад
SARTORIAL TALKS Thank you!
@Tiger24kicks
@Tiger24kicks 6 лет назад
Like the way she is dressed
@dedanizizwemakapela4475
@dedanizizwemakapela4475 5 лет назад
Thanks for the review guys. Can shoe trees be used to widen the toe areas of shoes and boots?
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
I think it's better to go to a good cobbler for that, who will have some iron "forms" that can extend horizontally. Normally two days on such forms, and the toe area should be extended. Cheers, Hugo
@victorialadybug1
@victorialadybug1 6 лет назад
My dad has quite a few nice Derbys. i didn't know what they were called until now.
@mdtaylor2274
@mdtaylor2274 5 лет назад
Hugo, I could listen to you for days and weeks. And your suit is astonishing. I have a problem with getting the right shoes for my Diabetic feet. I have to use orthopedic insoles because my arches are reversed (the opposite of an arch). Do you know if there's any shoemaker that can make special shoes for my feet? I currently use Hush Puppies and they're alright. But nothing stylish and as beautiful as a pair of Derby's or Monk Straps. And I absolutely refuse to wear special Diabetic shoes that makes people look like Frankenstein.
@ntouched
@ntouched 5 лет назад
Try Perry Ercolino in Doylestown, PA (Best Bespoke Shoemaker in the USA)!
@stedye
@stedye 5 лет назад
You can also do the bespoke shoes of GJ Cleverly . They are visting USA in April . Great shoes , but, expect to invest some money.
@fulaan1
@fulaan1 5 лет назад
Love Monk straps.
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
Me too ! Hugo
@TriforceRich
@TriforceRich 5 лет назад
Hugo, I love your tie in this video. Could you please tell where you got it form?
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 5 лет назад
It's a custom made coton tie from Anna Matuozzo (bespoke shirtmaker) in Napoli. Cheers, Hugo
@TriforceRich
@TriforceRich 5 лет назад
SARTORIAL TALKS thank you
@toni.wijaya
@toni.wijaya 6 лет назад
hugo, what about the degree of formality of derby shoes. is it approriate to wear it in formal occasion? thx
@hugojacomet428
@hugojacomet428 6 лет назад
Toni, it's explained in the videos series . An Oxford is, by definition, more formal than a Derby. But some models, like for example the two-eyelet derby can be formal (I personally have a two eyelet Arca Derby from Corthay Paris in patent leather that I wear during black-tie events). Best, as ever, Hugo
@matthewhoover6154
@matthewhoover6154 4 года назад
I like the pebbled leather on that blucher shoe
@steliopapadopoulos4887
@steliopapadopoulos4887 5 лет назад
Dead Hugo, what is the level of formality of double monk strap shoes? I think double strap is more formal than single strap. Sonya explained that the trend is growing stronger but I'm not sure in what way exactly. I see double monk straps with suits but I don't know if it can be as formal as the oxford and the derby. Any advice?
@SARTORIALTALKS
@SARTORIALTALKS 4 года назад
Hi Stelio, I can only say the Italians love the single monk strap style and wear them at "most every level" of formality (minus semi-formal and formal, of course). This same comment could apply to the English in regard to the double strap, as the John Lobb "William" model can be classified as iconic. Personally, I find the John Lobb version to be almost as formal as the Oxford (and more formal than the Derby), but this is my opinion. Cheers! Hugo
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