kpop hard to swallow pills pt. 2 

only real fans know that she uploaded and deleted this vid

idc if non Asians are kpop idols as long as they ain't tryna look asian if they aint, yk be a koreaboo n stuff.

one hard to swallow pill is that we don’t know kpop idols. we only know them through meaningless videos that were most likely staged. some kpop fans make it seem like they know every single thing about their favorite idols. girlie knowing their zodiac sign and birth date don’t mean anything👩🏻‍🌾 we just know snippets of their personalities👩🏽‍⚖️ we don’t know them and never will. they most likelyjust put on a façade and move on with their life. they give fans what they want, receive their check and live their life. we’re just a part of their life nothing more, nothing less.

You had me until #7 Knets opinions don't matter to us, but it does affect idols. Look at Sana after the backlash for her Japan post or Taeyeon's mental health after the dating scandal

I feel like people dotn realize how much kpop is influenced by western music. Such as hip-hop,pop and multiple other genres it's just presented differently. And it baffles me when people bash western music when their favs music is inspired by it. K-pop is just to some extent repackaged western music but in groups. So I think people should respect western artists more instead of bashing them. Edit: wow thank you so much for all of the likes 🤨😳

That DJ dude really triggered me. His views were so narrow and close minded. God. Imagine being told you have no business in the country you were born in.

“i’ve seen that lana girl, she’s just a mess” when i tell you i screamed 🤣

Those people who literally stay up late to stream for their faves are a perfect example for your first point.

There is literally no need for people to constantly compare idols. They're all different and unique in their own way. Besides, some idols are more experienced than others. Comparing idols doesn't help them improve. It makes them more stressed.

Tbh I feel like one of the reasons why non asians don't try become a kpop idol is because they're gonna get hate for not being asian or not looking Korean. I mean... look at EXP edition

i mean, i agree that knetz are way over their heads but two points: one: knetz do have some direct influence on the inner korean market as their reactions often end up gaining reaction from the companies and in turn, end up influencing the idols pretty often. they're inherently invaluable for us but for having a good standing in the home market is a pretty important point, which is why i guess i-fans pay so much attention to them. two: i have seen a bunch of i-fans act superior to knetz by funneling down anything they say and reducing them to racist, homophobic stereotypes while i-fans themselves act in highly racist, homophobic ways themselves. so as much as their opinion is dismissable, i do have a major problem with people who use that as an opportunity to claim to be the 'better fans'.

EXP Edition are that weird uncle you always see at family gatherings who if you talk to you just kinda get harassed till you wanna leave. BP Rania's Alex is the best non-Asian idol to debut in KPOP so far.

Imo kpop isn’t a genre? It’s an industry that included visual elements, choreography, concepts, etc.

Shout #1 louder for the people in the back. Edit: wow a hard to swallow pills where I agree with a majority of the points.

to add on to the “i only like one group” thing, i feel like a lot of people also do it to show that they are “different” from the other fans or the other ppl that listen to kpop

Knetz opinions might not matter but they can sure as hell ruin someone's image or carrier even

I hate when idols wanna be rappers but literally spend zero time learning about the genre. There's a reason RM and non-idol k-rappers are better than 99% of them.

Michelle Lee is korean.....jus half,so she shouldn’t be considered a non- Asian.

with number three i totally agree. asians can enter the western industry and no one has a problem with that but when non-asians enter kpop everyone throws a fit

Kpop wouldn't be successful without black culture and influence. That's a pill we ALL need to swallow. Periodt

There weren't hard to swallow for me, the whole video Im just like "preach girl educate the masses" 😂

kpop is pop music sung in korean and if you know the language then you could technically debut as a non asian

#1 already spilling... its so sad seeing people let randoms online and celebrities that don't even know we exist control/have so much influence over their well-being. i understand finding happiness in a group, but completely relying on them for any source of emotion that strong is extremely harmful :/

about ur #3 i don’t think michelle lee is a good example of non asians in kpop. shes half korean and was born in korea. i think it’s hurtful to call her a non asian.

I think a hard to swallow pill is that it’s okay to dislike something or a decision made by an kpop idol. About every day on Stan twitter I always see these posts about how “if you don’t like what they did then don’t say it out loud”. And if someone does express their opinion, then they end up on a cancel list. Whether it be not liking a song or being upset at what an idol did, it’s not bad to say it. Just like with life, you like some things and you dislike other things. I feel like rather than hurting their reputation, it would be good to hear constructive criticism than to just have fans who agree with everything they do.

Oml number 3 is just... I agree!!!!!!!!! Like it’s like people are saying they want a black or Latina idol one day but then they say all Kpop idols should be asian??!?? I don’t agreeeeeeee, imo as long as the person isn’t being messy or k- boo about it, I’m all for it white, black, whatever it’s like we want it to be diverse but we gate keep it like what-??

I genuinely agree in every point you said especially the first one because fanwars and all that shit is just waste of time and really shouldn't effect someone's emotions

The groups co existing is so true. Every time a group does something everyone says they ended blackpink like no. They're all doing well no group is ending anyone

*tbh knetz irks my soul so much* *That re-upload tho🗿*

I completely agree with number seven!! Knets literally scare me they seem so mean and I honestly would rather jump into stan twitter than to be around knets.

there can be non-asian idols, but they have to be at least talented (for exemple,that lana girl is NOT talented) an they have to not act like koreaboos

"kpop is not that deep." Meanwhile, I'm here just analyzing the flip out of every kpop mv to ever exist.

Like I commented last time on the first video. PREACH!!!👏🏾👏🏾

2:19 I'd like to point out that Michelle Lee is Asian. Half Asian. 😒

how can a person physically stan one group there are so many talented and amazing voices in korean music.

queen posted

My hard to swallow kpop pill: Poor management of a group and a group’s fan base can both either directly or indirectly affect one’s perception or overall emotional disposition towards a group. Take for example BTS, many people refuse to stan them because of their negative disposition towards the ARMY which indirectly affects their perception of BTS even though it ultimately shouldn’t. I for one have distanced myself from multiple groups because of either their fan base or shitty management even though I logically know it shouldn’t impact on how I feel towards the actual groups. It doesn’t change the fact that in the end it does actually impact how much I am interested in/ love a group. Which is really shitty, but people can’t control how they feel unfortunately. BTW love your vids queen xoxo

#3 is so true there’s no reason why there can’t be non Asia idols

I ADORE these videos and I always agree with you. Great job!

the queen has posted🤩🤪

Love your channel queen 💘

*kpop groups can co-exist* I laughed way more than I should've..

whew chile, everyone is honestly burning up over #3! And I aight mad at you! you spoke facts, their tongues were burned by that scorching HOT TEA!!!!!!

THE QUEEN HAS RETURNED WITH SOME HOT TEA ☕️ ☕️☕️

You’ve got some really great opinions my dude. 💕

The fact that I didn't even had to try to swallow those pills....you are my favourite kpop theme youtuber no joke

i agree with all of these and i’ll gladly swallow them cause it’s true pERIODT🙈💅🏻✨

The tea in this video is hotter than Jisoo with bangs

We love a queen who has 2NE1 in the background

it’s kind of sad that #4 is hard to swallow 😂 it should be a given

POP OFF QUEEN

ma’am the intellectual and wise person you are it amazes me

Kpop was created during the era of colour television so of course it's going to be heavily influenced by visuals. With western music, it's more about the music rather than the visuals, because American and British pop came into fruition way before the late 80s, which is when kpop began. So obviously idols have to be skinny and pretty, and their music videos have to be interesting and aesthetically pleasing, it's a part of why Kpop is the way it is today. It really bothers me when ignorant international fans say that visuals don't matter in Kpop, because the circumstances are different in Korea than they were in the western pop scene.

The who kpop is not that deep thing is SO important. It’s aggravating how much ppl seem to care!

Kpop isn't that deep but if I see another "#ot8skz" I'm gonna snap there neck. :)

I love these videos🤠

Agreed completely with #2, a lot of companies treat their groups like projects instead of individuals' careers

Omg, some of my friends keep saying they're upstanding just cause of the fans. Like wtf, if you truly stanned them you arent there for the fans, you're there for the group.

What Knetz say has more of an impact on the idols' careers than what international fans say. So, even if they say horrible things, it counts more _ because they're the ones buying the most merch and going to fanmeets etc... Otherwise, I agree with everything she said.

PERIODT!!! Love these opinions. Well👏🏾Said 👏🏾!!!

TEAAA oml ok so in my opinion,,, as long as non-asian (non-korean asians as well, love y’all 😔) idols take the time to understand korean and are ready to work hard I really do not see why ppl make such a fuss about them debuting. kpop is such a unique industry that gives endless creative potential to the artists going into it... why keep it so selective??? it’s kinda sad to think how many potential talents out there could be scared to debut bc of backlash :(

so random but you should make an asmr. ive watched three of your videos and fell in love with your voice thrice

i swear the only reason why antis words have meaning is that we pay attention to them and believe that they're of some value. If we could've just ignored their comments, no one would give a shit about what they said. They only hold power if you believe they hold power. If you see it just report it and go or if its just a minor inconvenience, just ignore it and move on with your day.

What I like about you is that you say logical and truthful opinions/POVs ect. Like last video and this one, the pills are just straight up facts. I agree with everything and for these, they weren't hard to take at all. I wish other fans realised these things and ya know, went out side and breathe some unpolluted air hah.

I don’t think #2 is really that hard to swallow. It happens in all genres of music, no matter what country it is. The “newer and improved” artists will always be a priority over the older ones, and that’s mainly because older artists don’t usually stick with the current trends. Older artists who’ve already hit their prime (or what everyone assumes to be their prime) usually continue making the same music they made in their prime- even when it doesn’t hit the same way. But the unfortunate thing about the K-pop industry ( I haven’t seen this happen with K-Rappers, or any other genre ) is that depending on when they debuted, they have about two years to make a song/album that gets enough traction- and then after that they only have 6-8 years to continue making music. And by the time they hit 28 or 29, (girl groups) usually lose what traction they had- so they’re forced to go on hiatus until that company wants to use them, or they disband. And with Boy Groups, they get sent to military, and by the time all the members get out, they have a lot of fans who aren’t as into them, so the company does the same thing as girl groups. By the time all those idols are in their 30’s, they’re considered “novelty idols” and in the media, as much as they do finally get their well deserved respect, everyone treats them as if they’re only around to give advice and become talk show hosts. Although if there is any older group that I’m super proud of (although lbr some of the members are questionable ((not the one who got married tho, I’m proud of him))) is Super Junior. We all know they don’t have very much traction anymore- but they seem to be doing what they want. And at this moment, it’s dabbling in Latino music so life just seems all hunkydory for them.

#3 preach thanks

I haven't seen the video yet but wanted to say the thumbnail was beyond excellent.

my kpop hard to swallow pill: Most storylines and theories that some groups apparently have literally make no sense and was just created for money making. They put "easter eggs" like symbols in their videos because they KNOW fans will recognize them and want to know what all of that means. So what do they do? They are watching the music videos over and over again, make posts about the mv on other social media sites...basically they promote their idol indirectly. And what makes streaming? Money. What makes promoting? Other people will also watch the mv= money. With that being said, yes theories are most of the time just a marketing strategy, so don't be that frustrated if you don't understand what is going on in your faves mv's.

Some people are going to choke on 3 and 4

agree with everything you have just said and especially with knetz tbh i see them as cyber bullies a lot of the time

1:50 thank you!! Everytime i try to exlain to someone that wonder girls could've lasted longer they always reply with something like "No, they wanted to disband; it was about time" . Wonder Girls said themselves that JYP always changes his priority, when they had a comeback he was more invested with Unnies and Twice. The girls were fed up. He also gave them a long hiatus just because their american debut didn't go as planned.

I think this video was actually really well done and not offensive in any way, I think I agreed with everything and I appreciate that you explained the reason why you think so~ I think some like “unpopular kpop opinions” can actually sometimes just be mean and rude, it’s okay to say this is my least favorite video from them, or like I don’t get this groups concept but it’s okay if you like them. It’s just getting rude when you say someone is ugly someone shouldn’t be doing that or being in that group, that someone should quit because they’re talentless (I hate these types of opinions) but these were all respectful I think, thanks for the video💛

i feel like 7 should be true - but i think knetz hold a lot of influence of idols eg the sana situation

in conclusion, she held back again

Let’s clap for rosé trash. For finally spreading this. All of this is so so true, the 7th one got me hit in the face, THIS IS SO TRUE. It’s okay for one person to be dating someone else, it’s okay to think what u what but spreading hate like they do is just so WRONG. over small things like making a mistake live, people should realise that their humans too and. HUMANS.MAKE.MISTAKES

I agree with everything except the last point. The one about Knetz, I have to slightly disagree since kpop groups still heavily rely on their Korean fanbase to retain their fame. If k-netz gather enough force and vitriol, it can seriously damage an idol's/group's career. Park Bom's drug scandal, Hyuna and E'Dawn's dating scandal all blew up partly bcos of k-netz. I also really don't wanna care about their opinions but not when it has the potential to negatively impact idols :/

its so easy to hate online and defend my faves, and then i take a step back and realize that why should i even seriously fight. Its not even worth it. and it really made me think that antis words wouldn't even matter if we just ignored it. But so many people didnt and now anything antis said is blasted even though heres so few of them. and i think what we need to recognize is that people do things that we don't like. and even if it hurts and it sucks, but you ignore it and go. When you ignore it and go, their words have no meaning. thats not saying that you shouldn't call out people for saying horrible shit, but you need to recognize when to fight and when to give up the fight. and a lot of times, we need to give up the fight when we go against people who have no intent to change.

Asia is the largest continent with over a 40 plus countries with different cultural, lingual and ethinic diversity. - Just a small geography lessons reminder. 😊 Btw Totally agree with everything being said in the video 👍👍

The thing about people who disagree with number 3 that really gets me is how many foreigners are the ones bitching about non-Asian people trying to be idols. Not to mention they have no issue with non-korean asians being KOREAN pop idols but they have a problem with someone of another race being an idol. Like it’s not even about people who aren’t from the culture they have a problem with it’s 110% a race thing. If people from Korea were the ones who had a problem with it I might listen but when some non asian person from America starts calling non-asian trainees and idols koreaboos or cringy or racist it’s really embarrassing and annoying. Stop being fake offended for people who aren’t even offended it’s bizarre and unnecessary

These are just the pills ALL kpop Stans need to take, it’s what I’ve tried to explain to some people and they won’t hear me out,,,,

Visuals in kpop are super important, but when it comes to discriminate because an idol isn't the ideal of beauty people have in their minds, or putting visuals over actual talent is just unfair and ridiculous

#3 thank GOD someone finally said it!!

This was damn good

The thumbnail had me quaking

Well I also realized the longevity issue...it can’t be changed. The public is always gonna like fresh things. It’s just a fact that when one group gains fans, another group loses fans. This is why I’m very choosy with the groups I stan. Some groups completely disband and go solo after their contract ends, but some will stick together even if their company goes bankrupt. Idc that my favorite group doesn’t get a lot of promotions, as long as they’re together, I’m one happy fan.

now THESE are some hard to swallow Kpop pills. the “Kpop isn’t made for longevity” and “Kpop really isn’t that deep” ones hit me right in the fucking kokoro

#3 Yes. Nothing to add. Nothing to argue.

thank you for talking about #3 because everyone seems to skip over the fact that a lot of groups take from hip hop and have recently been taking from Latin American cultures! Everyone talks about how it's a Korean thing and how the genre is becoming too western, but kpop has had MAJOR western influences from the start. I think if non Asian people are properly trained and learn Korean they can respectfully be idols.

About the non asians in kpop i once saw a youtuber who said a similar thing she also mentioned that non asians often write and produce majority of the music in kpop and also kpop is extremley influenced by many cultures particularly latin and black oriented cultures. So it doesnt make sense for non asians to not be allowed as it would be a double standard

Popular opinion and kpop easy to swallow pill: these kpop hard to swallow pills videos will be the next trend like unpopular kpop opinions

Longevity is there more with male groups, obviously, because Sk (and pretty much the world) sees women as disposable as they age and their youth is a big part of their appeal. Yet SNSD still show up monthly in the lists of most popular groups. Male groups fade a little, but for ones like Super Junior and EXO it may be down to personal preference too. They got the money and the fame so why break their necks when they can slow down and enjoy the fruits of what they worked for. Fans will still be there for comebacks.

4 is soooooo accurate!!! like BP and BTS can both exist in america because they have different audiences, sounds, and concepts. more kpop groups making it in america doesn't hurt ANYONE!

#6 is the tea

One of my opinions or pills is that just because you like an obscure or underrated group doesn’t make you special. I see a lot of people saying that if you like a mainstream group you have no taste but if you like an underrated group you have taste. It doesn’t matter if one is more popular than the other because people have different opinions and will naturally like different groups if opinions differ. The bandwagon hate to mainstream groups go way out of control.

it’s unfortunate but #2 is so true and bigger companies make it show 💀

The fist fact is so true, Oh MY GOD

3:34 that is the same person that supports bts being in the west I’m-

I don’t think anyone group is better than the other at the end of the day it’s all up to personal preference so it shouldn’t matter who’s the “best group” just worry about YOUR favorite and don’t force it on others

I didn't even thin the last pill was a thing. Knetz are literally just korean people on the internet y'all. The only thing I'd take their word on is cultural differences, and I even take that with a grain of salt.

#1 highly agree. I’ve had days where I feel shitty for not streaming enough. Like what if I don’t like the song or I’m busy and don’t have time or can’t get wifi’? And the social media: I’ve had to take time off of Stan instagram and I don’t even touch Stan Twitter because of all the toxicity. Kpop was supposed to be a coping mechanism for my anxiety, not make it worse 😒