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Kpop scandal iceberg (Most stupid to most serious) 

Natasha L. Kim
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Kpop scandals from stupid to serious. Tell me how you feel about the iceberg format! I'll make more.
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0:00 Intro
1:36 Tier 1
7:36 Tier 2
12:50 Tier 3
20:28 Tier 4
24:44 Tier 5
29:37 Tier 6
35:48 Tier 7
All stages in this video have been captioned in order to find the full video on their respective channels. This video is not an attempt to claim said content as my own nor serve as a replacement to the original fancams.

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@devourerofmedia
@devourerofmedia 2 месяца назад
the way some people get more hate for dating than serious crimes is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy
@ascendance000
@ascendance000 Месяц назад
i’m so tired of the industry and companies trying to portray the perfect gf or bf, it’s making it hell for these idols that just wanna connection with another person. that shits gotta get really lonely fr…
@MINJUNEI
@MINJUNEI Месяц назад
being a garam defender in 2022 was nawt for the weak omg
@neb.9489
@neb.9489 Месяц назад
People hit you with the “she’s be there for two weeks” line as if that means anything. Just bc she wasn’t in the group for long, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t feel bad that for how her career went
@summerloaver
@summerloaver Месяц назад
@@neb.9489 they say that as to not make themselves feel guilty about the fact that they bullied, harassed a minor for nothing
@mayusachess
@mayusachess Месяц назад
I remember people genuinely saying that she can only be a prostitute bc of "bullying", it was absolutely insane and defending her was like walking into ww3
@greenthinggg
@greenthinggg Месяц назад
​@@mayusachesswhat the actual fuck? That is so disgusting to say especially to a minor I'm glad I wasn't into kpop at that time I would've lost it too lol
@bathfordrycatorlife
@bathfordrycatorlife 5 дней назад
@@mayusachess i remember getting into so many arguments trying to defend her omg
@jobuteupaki9663
@jobuteupaki9663 2 месяца назад
i love that you're always serving face on your thumbnail
@lovelylanafansweetie4240
@lovelylanafansweetie4240 2 месяца назад
She’s so beautiful ❤
@a.a677
@a.a677 Месяц назад
right its so iconic lmao
@honghehe
@honghehe 2 месяца назад
the way wonyoung alone is in 4 out of 7 of the tiers... they really tried hard to make her a villain😭😭
@kennethfajardo9102
@kennethfajardo9102 3 дня назад
Girlie was just like "Okay?"
@honghehe
@honghehe 2 дня назад
@@kennethfajardo9102 love her for that honestly... shes an unbothered queen
@abcd3577
@abcd3577 2 месяца назад
it was V who followed jennie, not the other way around making his rabid fans harass her to this day.
@greenthinggg
@greenthinggg Месяц назад
Did you see her post that had like half a million comments? Shit was vile I honestly admire her for keeping her comments open bc I could never 😭
@miam_k
@miam_k 2 месяца назад
I think starting the produce 48 one with "fans theorized that it was rigged" isnt great, because as much as it started out as fan theories, there were police investigations and the rigging was confirmed by law and a lot of people were arrested and sent to jail for serious crimes
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
Oh sorry that’s my bad! I genuinely thought that it was a very likely ‘theory’ I didn’t know that it was confirmed to be rigged
@miam_k
@miam_k 2 месяца назад
@@NatashaLkim no problem! I'm pretty sure all 4 seasons of produce were confirmed to have some kind of rigging somewhere but afaik pd48 and pdx101 were the only seasons with a fully rigged lineup
@crazerrazer6778
@crazerrazer6778 Месяц назад
@@NatashaLkim Contestants Han Chowon and Lee Kaeun were rigged out of the final lineup and it is SPECULATED that Jo Yuri and Kim Chaewon were rigged into the lineup
@ainom_Monia
@ainom_Monia 2 месяца назад
Another scandals. There are more propably (mostly from nugu) and it's not in particular order: 1. S#arp bullying scandal 2. Yellow bee's former member Ari claimed the members were SA, SH, neglected et cetera by the company staff 3. Daisy (former momoland member) claimed "finding momoland" a survival show which formed the group has been rigged 4. Botopass/ILUV bullying scandal 5. Open world entertainment CEO arrested for SA female trainees and coercing male idols under his agency to do it as well 6. Busters' former memeber Cheyeon (she's in TripleS now) being allegedly assauled on tok! tok! boni hani" by a coworker 7. Saturday members acted in FMV dating sim game and the game is at least weird or even disturbng 8. Lovelyz's former member Jisoo scandal 9. Stellar members forced to do a sexy concept and being exploited 10. The East Light being abuse by their company 11.GirlFrND scandal 12. Glam's scandal 13. ANS' bullying scandal 14. reasons for Swincle's disbandmant 15. t-ara bullying 16. Kim Sungjae's murder
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
Oh yay! I’ll go look for them thank you~~~
@Hanni._.Bubblegum.
@Hanni._.Bubblegum. 2 месяца назад
@@NatashaLkim Omg please make a Part 2!! I loved this video 🎀🎀
@chokichoki8554
@chokichoki8554 2 месяца назад
What's 11?
@ainom_Monia
@ainom_Monia 2 месяца назад
@@chokichoki8554 they didn't sing their debut Song so they were lipsincing. Only 1 member paricipated in recordings. If i remember correctly but I think midnight theories made a video about it
@miam_k
@miam_k 2 месяца назад
add woojin's fake sexual harassment allegations
@Hanni._.Bubblegum.
@Hanni._.Bubblegum. 2 месяца назад
WAKE UP MOTHER HAS POSTED !!
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
I love you 🌹
@schonswan
@schonswan 2 месяца назад
crying at the thumbnail 😭🫶🏽💕 you're queening out
@karthikamallan5202
@karthikamallan5202 2 месяца назад
Ive and momoland situation is so similar. Edited clips to bring hate to the group and it worke. Unfortunately momoland group was more affected due to the lack of support from company and fans. Whereas ive is pretty successful and many knetz were on their side which helped them. People really have time to sit and edit a video, acting like they are psychologist or body language experts to bring hate to a group they dont like.
@agibok_lixx
@agibok_lixx Месяц назад
15:38 as someone who is both a stay n dive n has the perspective of both fandoms, i would like to add more info abt the whole bangchan scandal (no hate or bias to skz or ive or anyone i love them all < 3) the reason why the whole situation blew up is because bangchan never name dropped which group he was talking abt, but SOME (not all of them ofc) stays started accusing ive of being the group that bangchan was talking abt, which caused SOME (again, not all of them) dives to start fighting w stays n bullying skz, esp bangchan. dives n stays have had beef for a pretty long time due to various different reasons such as the whole wonyoung touching hyunjin choreo thing, the stupidass minive copying skzoo thing n more reasons that r too irrelevant to mention so this fanwar was really big. what made it EVEN WORSE is that bangchan used to do weekly livestreams which were a staple of stray kids' content n many stays would tune in every single week, but after this fanwar jype forced bangchan to stop doing weekly livestreams, even tho bangchan apologised for what he had said, so obviously stays were pissed which caused the fanwar to get even worse sorry if that was a lot to read i tried to keep it short while still keeping in the important info 😭
@MINJUNEI
@MINJUNEI Месяц назад
some of these truly prove that kpop stans pick and choose which (female) idol they're going to drag... sigh
@crazerrazer6778
@crazerrazer6778 Месяц назад
What's funny is that Starbucks in South Korea is a completely different franchise and is not connected financially to the U.S. Starbucks
@zenit0
@zenit0 2 месяца назад
One scandal that pops up in my mind once in a while is Chaeyoung's Hakenkreuz scandal. Even though she kinda apologized, I still can't see her in the same light again and can't enjoy Twice's music anymore. It's really sad that a person doesn't think about what shirt they are wearing when there is a literal Hakenkreuz on it
@mariyia
@mariyia Месяц назад
It was the other way around - Taehyung accidentally followed Jennie, not vice versa
@ilovecatsz8888
@ilovecatsz8888 Месяц назад
about the chan situation,chan never specified who exactly he was talking about bc obv he can’t.he never said it was ive so it wasn’t his fault that stays went after dives and ive.a stay herself was the one that made the rumor.even if chan was referring to them or not he would never wanted the hate train on ive.a stay made the rumor so really it was stays fault that ive got hated on. now we don’t have chan’s room anymore bc of immature stays like that,chan has always been one to speak up about things which is really rare in the idol industry but those so called “stays” just took his words and made him look like he was talking bad about ive and like he wanted them to get hate.I feel bad for both chan and ive in that situation(I am stay and dive)
@onlykpopbl2551
@onlykpopbl2551 Месяц назад
16:03 Excuse me , Bangchan never mentioned any group/idol nor the gender of the group/idol . He gave his PERSONAL OPINION on his OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE when interacting with most 4th gen groups. If idols are old enough to date , smoke and get married , they are definitely old enough to say what is on their mind. The only problem I had was STAYS assuming what group he was talking about and hating/harassing that group.
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim Месяц назад
Did I say that he mentioned any group in particular? No. I said that he complained about disrespectful juniors and later on after talking about jungkook and IU said it’s not their fault for having overzealous fans but should think their words carefully.
@seabasskei
@seabasskei День назад
yea but like he knows how toxic stays are so why would he say that..
@onlykpopbl2551
@onlykpopbl2551 День назад
@@seabasskei Actually what he said was not that big of a deal. Lots of idols have complained about the newer generations lack of respect so why is everyone acting so shocked?? I guess because I stan groups who are mostly 2nd and 3rd gen and a few 4th gen groups so it wasn't a big deal. I didn't find anything wrong with what he said, the only problem I had was those problematic STAYS who assumed which group he was speaking about.
@seabasskei
@seabasskei День назад
@@onlykpopbl2551 yea im just saying that like he knows what stays have done so maybe he shouldnt saying anything knowing how toxic his fandom is
@moncci2924
@moncci2924 2 месяца назад
honestly anyone who thinks namjoon is in the wrong on that frank ocean song is my opp, the song is abt love and islam is not only a metaphor but the song also criticises islams homophobia.. ill always stand on this one😣
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
I do think people often forget how charitable BTS are. They’ve donated to so many charities so yeah it’s kinda frustrating. The arrogance on RMs live did bother me, but nobody can deny that BTS is doing more for social activism than ANY kpop group (and even just celebrities) and I wish people would recognise that more
@huda0613
@huda0613 2 месяца назад
I am muslim and I actually agreed with namjoon not apologizing,, The issue when this scandal happened is that most of the hate was due to a bunch of misinformation that was spread, to the point lies even got spread in the middle east and arab news channels had to come forward and debunk a bunch of lies. Instead of pointing out what actually haopened people were saying the most riduculous things and most muslims i knew assumed that the song straight up cursed at muslims and islam which was not the case, i happened to be in the live stream at the time it happened and he was being harassed continuously to the point he had to address it because it went from "the song mentions Allah's name" to "the song speaks badly about islam and muslims and Namjoon hates muslims!",, it also makes me feel iffy how idols had previously posted the song and even attended performances of the song and posted that on their story and they got praised for it, the whole situation just made me feel like my religion was being used for fanwars while none of those people actually cared
@user-mc3qv4pw1p
@user-mc3qv4pw1p Месяц назад
literally as a muslim too i don't know why she phrased it like armys were mad at him when i watched as bts antis purposefully weaponised Islam to harass him like always and rm clocked that. thank god he didn't apologise bc there's nothing to be sorry for. same as you, I was mad at the amount of ppl overstepping boundaries to use religion like they do with racism and other important issues to carry out their hate boners for bts or any other idol they hate. the song was literally about a man coming out and his interaction with a muslim driver.....? like leave us alone
@xxheart_breakerxx8732
@xxheart_breakerxx8732 2 дня назад
Some religious people (not directed at you, and nor Islam specifically) just need to understand that not everyone follows their view which us arguably harder, as religious norms are often portrayed as you can't question them (contrary to social norms that are constantly questioned and keep changing over time)
@felixitations
@felixitations 2 месяца назад
feel like the problem with the bangchan situation isn't that he spoke out on it at all, its almost impossible to tell how it would have went over. I think its quite obvious that the problem was the insane fans themselves, both stays and dives eventually (im both a stay and a dive and it killed me during this time lkike)
@Moretropes11
@Moretropes11 14 дней назад
The whole AOA case was insanity. The fact that at a certain point Jimin stopped responding and Mina tried to get into contact with Jimin’s friends and guilt them into finding out information about Jimin was crazy. To this day she still blames her problems on Jimin and AOA as a whole.
@emoogod
@emoogod 24 дня назад
20:14 I feel so bad for bom as some one who has adhd (the substance that she brought to korea is one of the many things used for adhd medication) I know she has adhd too so it’s sad seeing how our medication is deemed illegal in other countries😞😞
@m.salmanal-farisy3748
@m.salmanal-farisy3748 2 месяца назад
Saw someone on twitter said youre a wonyoung stan which is why you serve face on every thumbnail 😭😭
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
That’s no word of a lie
@messofkai
@messofkai 21 день назад
i really enjoyed your video, but i dont quite agree with your opinion on the bangchan saying some idols didnt bow situtation as a stay myself and you being a dive i understand you and other dives were upset that ive got hate for things they didn't do, however that wasn't bangchans fault. in his live he only stated his thoughts and his own experiences without even naming any idols, yes he said they were younger, but he didnt drop any names. for a reason. people then interpreted into his words that bangchan meant ive with his words, but we don't know if he did. Even if he meant ive (remember we dont know that bc he never dropped names) he talked from his experiences. is he not even allowed to do that or what? yes he is an idol but that doesnt mean he cant voice his opinion, it was good that he did every idol should voice their thoughts without getting bashed for it. (unless its racist, homophobic etc) i hope i brought my point across, loved the rest of the video tho
@Justsomegir
@Justsomegir 13 дней назад
But this is the second time chan talked about his alleged experience without name dropping and it caused or heated up a hate train on an idol. The first was with woojin and then ive. Don't you think he should have learnt and understood that some of his fans are immature children that they'll take his words and use it to harass others? Cause like honestly as much as much i adore chan, it'll be a difficult pill to swallow if it happens a third time
@messofkai
@messofkai 13 дней назад
@@Justsomegir how is it his fault that some fans go harassing others? just bc others are dumb and mean doesn't mean he can't voice his opinion and thoughts anymore it doesn't make sense to punish bangchan for the actions of others
@Justsomegir
@Justsomegir 11 дней назад
​​@@messofkaiyes of course he shouldn't be punished for the action of OTHERS, but they are HIS fans and they've used HIS WORDS to do harass others, so what I'm saying is that he should have been careful with HIS words after the first time, but I guess once is a mistake, twice is a coincidence, thrice?, not so much of how is it his fault. I'm just saying he should please be careful with his words so it doesn't happen a third time. Sorry if this sounds too aggressive, I wasn't exactly in a good mood replying to you, I may likely rephrase this when I'm calm
@lilcucumber5149
@lilcucumber5149 2 месяца назад
I feel like this is why fans shouldnt view kpop artists as perfect. It gives unrealistic expectations so that everytime they make a mistake or just act like a human its viewed as a bigger deal then it is. Or when they do something really messed up, fans immediately say my fav could never do this- kpop is walking a very dangerous parasocial line
@starpril_
@starpril_ 2 месяца назад
I love your content so much it’s great to watch while drawing!
@ascendance000
@ascendance000 Месяц назад
girl, you make perfect videos fr. like these are topics i’d make videos on myself yk? and it’s like hit after hit lmao you’re killing it and putting the work in. subscribedddd
@MINJUNEI
@MINJUNEI Месяц назад
5:53 this reminds me of when winter got dragged for not moving a single muscle while hitting the dreams come true high note lmfaoo 😭😭
@MINJUNEI
@MINJUNEI Месяц назад
"WOAH WOAHHHHH" while laughing... winter you will forever be famous
@user-wg1lj9jk5g
@user-wg1lj9jk5g Месяц назад
Like I don’t care. They jumped on that train real quick and loved RM’s answer. People just start to hate and go at people with no reason but their own views. They don’t care to understand others but expect others to understand. It’s also esp people of that religion that does that the most. What’s wrong with saying IU is his type when he was basically a tween, and was asked by interviewers. BTS thank God doesn’t answer those questions anymore.
@Hi2009u
@Hi2009u 2 месяца назад
Ur married??!?? I thought you were like 16 years old 😭
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
I’m 21 this year 😭😭 I’ll take the compliment 💕
@ambitiouspants
@ambitiouspants 2 месяца назад
God this really shows how much crap female idols get. Heartbreaking.
@rimikmimic
@rimikmimic 17 дней назад
anyone here from pinterest?
@lilifart.0rg
@lilifart.0rg 16 дней назад
YESSS I THOUGHT IT WAS JUS ME
@naturescorruptedinfactorie8062
Pinterest????
@lilifart.0rg
@lilifart.0rg День назад
⁠yes😭 theres this pin of the thumbnail and its funny cause its shit like "gay" "cringe" and then her serving face on the side😭
@livingmasquerade1418
@livingmasquerade1418 2 месяца назад
6:54 it was the other way around where v followed jennie. either way its still stupid how people where making a huge deal out of it, like it really aint our buisness, we as fans aint gonna date them.
@EtherealGoddessMiriam
@EtherealGoddessMiriam 14 дней назад
I knew this would trigger me.. but i am so thankful for the explicit words you chose for the topic of r4pe.. it happens alot and men seem to really be good at one thing and one thing only- hurting women. And you found the right words. I rarely see clear words being spoken about this topic and i thank you for doing so since explicit words will shock and trigger but i feel like in these situations its better to talk about it ALOT than be quiet and never talk about it.. even if it hurts hearing every incidence where a man has taken choice from a woman but it needs to be said it needs to be seen and you really help victims with this.. thank you❤
@ahhehe8758
@ahhehe8758 Месяц назад
It makes sense for people to be angry with a contestant in a survival show lipsyncing
@etervenly
@etervenly 2 месяца назад
you are my fav youtuber atp
@nothx6420
@nothx6420 День назад
Jungkook saying IU was his crush was such a massive domino affect of hate for IU and very irresponsible for him to do as a man. but I do want to defend him a little. I believe he was 15/16 when he said it and 2013/14 was a bit different(idols were often asked about celebrity crushes) I believe all the members said a female celebrity but Jungkook was the most popular member and had a lot of older fans who acted very possessive with him(hybe's history of not protecting minors goes far back) took it too far. It got worse as time went on because IU kept being popular and BTS rising success meant Jungkook was often introduced in video as having IU as his crush. Weirdly, idols would say something once and it becomes their "character trait" for years after. I think that is another flaw in the kpop industry further pushing them as this subhuman thing. Regardless, its sad how much female idols get dogged on. Jungkook is good friends with IU now and they both helped each other out in terms of careers.
@Lina12896
@Lina12896 День назад
I have to say I cringed at the pizza ad but not because of Wongyoung. I would have cringed no matter who did it. But we cant blame her for doing something the Producer asked. If they said "Please eat the pizza in a flirty way and wink at the camera" and she didnt do it, it would showen her being unprofessional and difficult to work with. I rather think its funny that she was doing it this cringy and doing a good job.
@singlishspeaker9214
@singlishspeaker9214 4 дня назад
To add on: Ive’s new comeback, Heya, has been heavily hated by chinese netizens because people said that they was “stealing” chinese culture and claiming it as Korean culture. The hate was so intense that people were telling the idols to DIE and many called them a “culture thief”. Many posted videos of them cutting, soaking or burning Ive’s previous albums and photocards. Wonyoung got the most hate since she was the centre and many chinese netizens were hating specifically on her only. When Miu Miu announced that Wonyoung was going to be their brand ambassador, the comment section was filled with so much hate and people threatened to kick Miu Miu out of china if they do not remove Wonyoung as their ambassador. I’m not an expert and I have no idea whether they were truly “stealing” or not, but even if they were, it’s the company and producers’ decision, not the idols. The idols don’t deserve so much hate. It just saddens me to see how much hate Ive is receiving because of something they can’t even decide. I used to look at chinese social media for kpop stuff a lot, now i just avoid kpop on those platforms at all costs
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 4 дня назад
Chinese people accusing anyone of stealing something is just so funny to me. Those same netizens got mad at a twice member for waving the Taiwanese flag because they think Taiwan is a part of China and then wanna hop online and cry about people 'stealing their culture' even though their country literally imposed the culture onto Korea themselves. Like bro in the ripe year of 2024 you wanna steal an entire country?@?@??@?@ HOW are you talking about stealing culture when you think like that? I never usually open my mouth about this stuff because I understand not many people wanna hear a white, British persons opinion on something like this but oh my god it was laughable to me. To put it into perspective Korea used to even write in Chinese until the invention of hangul. So tell me how their cultures weren't intertwined at least a little. There's a big argument among East Asians about what culture belongs to them, that's for them to argue. But Chinese kpop fans lost their right to complain after what they did to Tzuyang. *idk if i spelt her name right*
@singlishspeaker9214
@singlishspeaker9214 4 дня назад
@@NatashaLkim so true🥲
@huongho6302
@huongho6302 2 месяца назад
YESSSS NEWW VIDEOOO
@andreablunt2221
@andreablunt2221 Месяц назад
I know this is late but I saw your earlier video talking about minors debuting. Would you be interested in making a video on boystory. The members debuted under jyp between the ages 11-14
@lilylookittykyu3115
@lilylookittykyu3115 2 месяца назад
I hate how fans are so quick to assume like they don't even see the idols as humans
@kazuhasgloves
@kazuhasgloves 2 месяца назад
here we go !!
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
❤️❤️❤️
@kazuhasgloves
@kazuhasgloves 2 месяца назад
@@NatashaLkim 💗💗💗
@tiramisucake_ddeonu
@tiramisucake_ddeonu 6 дней назад
I came from pinterest where a comment said sitting there talking about scandals then just serving cvnt on the thumbnail😭 SHE'S SO PRETTYYYYY
@kittyjsiwjsb7609
@kittyjsiwjsb7609 5 дней назад
I love your comment about how songs can disrespect religion, like just because you don't mind doesn't mean we just need to suck it up!! As a Muslim, it's our duty (I believe it's other religions too) to defend our faith, it's literally part of the religion and we are sinful if we ignore it. RM acted a bit childish by saying "I'm 30 I do what I want" like if I bump unto someone by mistake I'll stay say I'm sorry, it's rude to act as if nothing happen or to say "hey, I'm 21 I do what I want!!" like just to show that I didn't mean to hurt that person. Also LOOOOOVE you putting your picture in the thumbnail, the video is interesting and organized, you just gained a new subscriber
@ada_janset
@ada_janset Месяц назад
there are times that i have agreed with you but also some times i wasnt quite on the same line with you
@holoinfinity4691
@holoinfinity4691 4 дня назад
apparently lisa was wearing thai braids but i have no idea of how different braids are tbh bc i'm neither thai or black but many claim they're thai braids
@ineeduenthusiast
@ineeduenthusiast 20 часов назад
They aren't, they're yarn braids, which are connected to Black culture. Blinks tried to say that to get her off the hook.
@holoinfinity4691
@holoinfinity4691 19 часов назад
@@ineeduenthusiast I see, thanks for telling me. I can't tell the difference between braids of any style besides cornrows, box braids, & the classic dutch/french braids
@ineeduenthusiast
@ineeduenthusiast 18 часов назад
@@holoinfinity4691 its a lesser known hairstyle, so I completely understand :)
@MINJUNEI
@MINJUNEI Месяц назад
already apologizing for commenting as if i was watching a livestream, but 2022 wonyoung hate was SOOO forced 😭 survived being a dive during that era 🫡
@holoinfinity4691
@holoinfinity4691 4 дня назад
yes jennie had 2 solo comebacks, but her first solo was a single song, same with her second. all the other bp members had 2 songs for their solos so i don't see how that as favoritism but i can see how being first for most things was. she didn't deserve the hate bc it's not her fault yg pushed her more
@haewonized
@haewonized 2 дня назад
why is a literal crime in the same tier as.. wearing a nurses outfit…
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 дня назад
If you’re talking about Park Bom (I can’t remember the tier listing anymore) it was because it was misinterpreted by people. People were implying that she was on some hardcore drugs and smuggling them but in reality she didn’t even know they weren’t allowed. ALSO you ignored what the tier list is about. It’s not criticising Jennie for wearing the outfit it’s criticising the public’s overreaction to it. The higher tiers are mostly about the public being crazy about small things
@haewonized
@haewonized 2 дня назад
@@NatashaLkim i was talking abt the man, i think it was an ikon member? but okay I guess
@straytistic
@straytistic 2 месяца назад
opinion on chan and ives situation: chan has always been so open, especially during his chan room episodes its obvious he was talking about ive but the hate that sparked between the fandoms was crazy stays are insane im not even denying it, but really all this ended with us loosing our weekly lives and I've getting temporary hate lmfao I hope stays learned from this bc we might loose more shit by our favs
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
Yeah it’s definitely the fans fault. I wish idols could be more authentic without worrying about hate trains. Maybe someday we will get there
@fiii2512
@fiii2512 2 месяца назад
I defo agree with u but i pretty sure it was confirmed it wasn't Ive, they weren't at the festival/show BC was talking about. I think fans just took the hate train against Ive and ran with it which is honestly even more ridiculous 😭😭
@karthikamallan5202
@karthikamallan5202 2 месяца назад
First of all. No it was not ive since people were editing the videos on purpose to add fuel to the ive hate train around the time. Ive was not even present in the event he was talking about .But fans took his words and attacked ive. Worst part is most offended people were non Korean fans. He said the same thing again which caused more catastrophe since it reached the knetz. And knetz were not happy. So bang chan apologized. Bang chan is not the number 1 fault but he is in some ways. Because he has created this parasocial relationship with stays, so he should be aware on what to say especially if it's negative about other kpop groups. These are same kpop fans that make up dating rumor out of tiny crumbs so it would not be surprising if fans attack and find the group he was talking about. Since ive was the most targeted one, this happened.
@straytistic
@straytistic 2 месяца назад
@@fiii2512 thats true he never specified who but fans already noticed ive not bowing even before chan spoke about it, it just made it worse 😭
@straytistic
@straytistic 2 месяца назад
@@karthikamallan5202 im not sure what exactly happened bc im not korean and i didnt know how disrespectful it was but from the videos of ive to be fair ive didnt notice the skz members, they were looking the other way waving to dives and skz came out of no where lmfao i remember defending both sides like crazyy 😭😭😭😭
@ray-fg8zi
@ray-fg8zi Месяц назад
Thumbnail trending on twt is so funny
@vopeabnd
@vopeabnd 2 месяца назад
im crying is that jihan in the thumbnail
@gunnawunnaobsessed
@gunnawunnaobsessed 2 месяца назад
Personally i like how RM didn’t apologize cuz that was nonsense
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
I respect your opinion. But I don’t think it’s hard to just apologise for a misunderstanding for your fans. Without the fans they have nothing. Mutual respect is needed
@bi3epeak
@bi3epeak 2 месяца назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@NatashaLkimI see your point of view as well. However people made assumptions very quickly and judged him then spread hate towards him. he clearly stated he never had the intention to offend anyone and respects all religions. I think the people who were quick to judge should apologize for sending thousands of messages of hate towards him. Again this is just my opinion if you don’t agree that’s okay because i respect your opinion 👍🏻
@Hi2009u
@Hi2009u 2 месяца назад
Yh but it doesn't matter what his intentions were. It's obvious ppl were hurt by what he did so he could've just apologised Like if u accidentally hit someone it's nicer to apologise than saying "Oh I'm not sorry cuz I didn't intend to hurt you" I get your a fan of him but it's ok to hold them accountable yk
@neb.9489
@neb.9489 Месяц назад
@@Hi2009uYeah, but he was the only idol out of those who shared the song that was dragged for it
@HarrietWanjau
@HarrietWanjau Месяц назад
I love how he had to emphasize he was 30 years old and can enjoy a song without having to face criticism for it. If people want to get mad honestly take it up with Frank Ocean himself. It's not RMs fault for enjoying a song
@ascendance000
@ascendance000 Месяц назад
the further we get, the more my heart breaks😄
@Ramses060784
@Ramses060784 Месяц назад
You are beautiful = you are safe Nice vid btw
@yubinblu
@yubinblu Месяц назад
only in tier 3 and the sheer amount of information you have blatantly gotten wrong/clearly had bias in is painful.
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim Месяц назад
*ignores my content disclosure and then gets mad that I’m not a reliable news source* now that’s what’s REALLY painful :)
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim Месяц назад
Ofc I have bias im a commentary channel. That’s literally the whole point -.-
@yubinblu
@yubinblu Месяц назад
@@NatashaLkim i did read and thoroughly listen. its a typical disclaimer. there is nothing wrong with having bias, but the issue is when that bias gets in the way of fact, and spreads misinformation that can harm these idols. id be more careful, companies dont take too kindly to that, especially as of late. you can get angry at my comment, which isnt my intent. either way i stand by what i said, because its true. there is blatant misinformation in this video, and thats dangerous for you
@angelicacortes898
@angelicacortes898 12 часов назад
Regarding Namjoon's accusations of Islam phobia I think that yes it is that "fucking hard", as you put it. I would be libid if people accused me of such a horrible thing for posting a song. Mistakes and ignorance about certain topics are nothing new, so why would he have to act all nice and sorry for people who slandered him? Of course he would be pissed, and sometimes people don't deserve an apology but a call out. You and I know that while some people were honestly hurt, most people rode the hate train because they were waiting for a chance, so don't be patronizing because you don't get how it feels to have so much people hate you and wait for your downfall.
@ryo7a
@ryo7a 5 часов назад
i think being mad at wonyoung for looking like a pick me is so stupid, like, that's her job!!! she's just getting that money, let the girl breathe.
@NA-kz5po
@NA-kz5po 2 месяца назад
Are the super junior blackface scandals here?
@MINJUNEI
@MINJUNEI Месяц назад
whos this girl and why is she serving face on everything single thumbnail... i must subscribe
@Lafiilledeprintempz
@Lafiilledeprintempz Месяц назад
7:09 umm ???she never followed him , its the other way around
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim Месяц назад
And that changes the situation……….In what way? Jennie still got the hate for it anyway
@Lafiilledeprintempz
@Lafiilledeprintempz Месяц назад
@@NatashaLkim yeah for something she didn’t do
@Bleepbleep_
@Bleepbleep_ 14 часов назад
​@@NatashaLkimgirl ILY, but you are spreading false information...
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 14 часов назад
@@Bleepbleep_ it doesn't matter who followed who 😭😭😭the whole point is people overreacted and Jennie got a lot of hate for it (Even more crazy considering V is the one who followed her). I'm not reprehending idols for following each other (also i can't edit it out of the video now it's already been uploaded)
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 14 часов назад
@@Bleepbleep_ BTW i did put in the beginning that i'm NOT a news source for a reason bc i can misinterpret sources and get things wrong. In such a long video with so many situations there was going to be one thing i got wrong there. Either way, i'm sorry i was wrong about it 💝
@alpacafalls
@alpacafalls 18 часов назад
Honestly, the whole RM 'Bad Religion' scandal wasn't even that bad. I think it should be on tier 2. The song is about unrequited love and thinking highly of the person you love. I think you should spend some time searching up the lyrics for a better understanding. I can understand that this may upset some Muslims, but there's no problem with a person calling a religion bad and that's not something he should apologize for, especially with the many immoral rules and unnecessary restrictions made by these religions. If a song or anyone criticizes or speaks up about dislike of a religion, it's perfectly fine. It's been ingrained in us to never disrespect a religion ever, but have you ever questioned the amount of damage these religions have caused? Especially one like Islam that encourages the killing of apostates and terrorizes women.
@drakehollie414
@drakehollie414 2 месяца назад
Where is everyone getting this idea that fans were "disappointed" in Blackpink's tour? You know who were disappointed? Kpop fans who already didn't like BP and probably couldn't afford a ticket anyway. Majority of people who actually WENT said they had the time of their life and in fact praised the girls' performances. But y'all wouldn't know that from just watching a compilation of 3-4 sec clips made by an obvious hater. Also I vividly remember blinks finding the Lisa & Rosé cold war thing to be funny. Again, it was non-fans + solo stans taking it seriously.
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
Ok but I did see fans who actually went to their concert say that they were disappointed in the disorganisation of the show. That’s not necessarily the girls fault but just because some shows went ok doesn’t mean that all of them did. Obviously not EVERY fan was disappointed but it’d be lying to say that nobody was disappointed because I saw a lot of people leave the fandom because of how bad their concert was. True that people already hated them (for bad reason) but the tour had some really bad and unprofessional moments. You can support and give empathy without just ignoring anything bad
@drakehollie414
@drakehollie414 2 месяца назад
@NatashaLkim Well that's the thing, I had my own personal issues with the tour itself (the production, setlist, some of the costumes, etc.) but very few had to do with the girls and their performances. My problem is how everyone seemed to be focused on bashing the girls. It's like if you ask these people what else they didn't like about the tour, they can't tell you cause half of them don't even know the basics of a tour besides the artist getting on stage and performing. So like how am I supposed to believe these criticisms are in good faith? I'm sorry but I'm not buying the "fans were so disappointed" narrative. Especially when every show ended up being sold out and making hella money... NAH someone is lying to you sis 🤥
@cursedwyvern3044
@cursedwyvern3044 2 месяца назад
I went to the Sydney concert as a non fan. I was pretty impressed, but only because, with all of the complaints, my expectations were soooooo low. I don’t think their concerts are anywhere near the level of groups like Seventeen and Ateez, or even other girl groups I’ve seen like Gidle, etc, but I didn’t think it was terrible or anything.
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
The tour being sold out has literally nothing to do with fans being disappointed…..? They would’ve bought tickets BEFORE going and to be fair they sold out because they’re blackpink. Plain and simple. I just don’t get what u mean by “well the tickets sold out” you would get disappointed after the concert, no? Not before buying a ticket 😂
@drakehollie414
@drakehollie414 2 месяца назад
@NatashaLkim Lord... first of all, I love how you're responding to one sentence out of an entire paragraph 😭 Second, you're not specifying what exactly these "fans" are disappointed in. Third, the tour went on for a whole year. Fans would've had to have watched multiple clips before even buying tickets to the 2023 leg. it makes no sense to not like what you see, STILL buy the ticket, STILL go, and then cry disappointment afterwards. You knew what you were getting. How the hell was everyone after every concert so disappointed yet every show continued to sell out, with some people even going back for more? Let's think for a sec...
@leeillx0
@leeillx0 2 месяца назад
i clicked because jihan being in gay😭😭😭
@quokkaholic
@quokkaholic 2 месяца назад
no need to add the part with bang chan if you don't know enough sorry 🙂
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim Месяц назад
You choosing to ignore my disclaimer in my intro 🤦‍♀️ I said I may get things wrong because I’m not a NEWS channel. it’s for entertainment. Lighten up
@tobin3327
@tobin3327 2 месяца назад
girl i saw a tweet abt this video with like 90k views
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
Oh no D: were they being mean??? :o
@tobin3327
@tobin3327 2 месяца назад
​@@NatashaLkim the account user is @ ha g nu gu (youtube is blocking my comment so i spaced it out😭)
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
Omg people aren’t being mean thank god 😭 I thought I’d be getting ripped apart on kpop Twitter
@tobin3327
@tobin3327 2 месяца назад
​@@NatashaLkim that would be so scary 😭😭 they said u were serving tho so
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim 2 месяца назад
It’s nice to finally have some GOOD social media retention 😭 usually people are so foul
@Lulusvt
@Lulusvt 2 месяца назад
Seventeen scandal😂😂😂😂❤ its funny and hilarious ... we love them❤
@aesserafim585
@aesserafim585 Месяц назад
29:41 "LOONA" 😭
@Vivifromloossemble
@Vivifromloossemble Месяц назад
My babys :(
@anastasiaabrahim9096
@anastasiaabrahim9096 9 дней назад
14:04 he is right he is a grown adult. He can do whatever he wants. Korean netizens are crazy!
@m.schultz4862
@m.schultz4862 5 дней назад
Came here from the Pinterest meme lol
@wintrshade
@wintrshade 16 дней назад
ur my icon
@rainbowsubs2
@rainbowsubs2 Месяц назад
About number 2 i wonder if they were mad because of queer baiting rather than them being gay...
@NatashaLkim
@NatashaLkim Месяц назад
Nah they weren’t. They were being rude about them being potentially not straight. Also playing a game of pocky isn’t really queer baiting
@rainbowsubs2
@rainbowsubs2 Месяц назад
@@NatashaLkim oh okay I didn't know the group that is why I asked but I mean they were obviously doing bl type of fan service…
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