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Kramnik Approved Viewer Game Analysis (Probably) 

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@reamartin6458
@reamartin6458 27 дней назад
The Ben “rant opening” was one of the strongest plays I’ve seen in a long time.
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 27 дней назад
The Grumpy Old Rant opening popularized at Hastings 1895, or was it 1066?
@reamartin6458
@reamartin6458 26 дней назад
😂
@jb6879
@jb6879 25 дней назад
this is some serious debbie downer stuff from Ben. Magnus doesn't care about WC anymore because of forced lines, long time controls and not enough matches. I don't blame him. Not to mention several months of study of the same openings trying to find some incredibly small advantage.
@yotoober1
@yotoober1 27 дней назад
AS long as Kramnik approves, it's all good.
@vivvpprof
@vivvpprof 27 дней назад
Tell me you're old without telling me that…
@carneades4409
@carneades4409 27 дней назад
shorter Ben: "Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong."
@pogy6449
@pogy6449 26 дней назад
kids are always wrong tho
@aarons3014
@aarons3014 27 дней назад
Fischer thought it was possible to play perfectly. Magnus knows that it is not possible. We don't live in a world of nonsense. We live in a world where chess is a combat sport, not a logic problem.
@istvanmagi473
@istvanmagi473 27 дней назад
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It sounds like an insight, so people upvote it, but if you think about it for even a few seconds, it falls apart. Why would have Fischer thought that, and how would Magnus "know" the opposite? Chess was exactly the same "combat sport" 50 years ago as it is today.
@MrEyal1981
@MrEyal1981 26 дней назад
@@istvanmagi473 Because Magnus got engines, so he knows that humans suck at chess, and so he figured it can be no more be seen as an art only as a sport .
@aarons3014
@aarons3014 26 дней назад
@@istvanmagi473 What the other commenter said, but tablebases were even bigger for Magnus's understanding of human chess. He would set up endgames where White wins by force in 100 moves, and try to understand why one move was better than another, and could not. In Fischer's day, chess was considered to be a game of complete information. Now elite players know that it is a game of incomplete information, closer to poker than tic-tac-toe from a human perspective. Managing emotions and getting a comfortable game are more important than playing the absolute best move, which humans cannot do. A good example is Prag's opening choices at the Candidates.
@PhildoBaggins
@PhildoBaggins 27 дней назад
Obligatory old man shakes fist at sky comment
@beirutleb1376
@beirutleb1376 27 дней назад
What's a sky comment?
@vivvpprof
@vivvpprof 27 дней назад
@@beirutleb1376 "Old man shakes his fist at the sky" type of comment. I suppose shaking your fist at the sky it's a metaphor for an old person getting mad about the changes that are inevitable or not capable of being reversed by that person alone.
@totalmonkeyspeed260
@totalmonkeyspeed260 27 дней назад
It's a Simpson's reference
@Keneo1
@Keneo1 26 дней назад
Old man yells at cloud
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg 25 дней назад
having watched that game, I'm almost certain the opponent was telling the truth when they claimed to be Magnus
@paparatzz7531
@paparatzz7531 27 дней назад
Ben crushing his dreams
@ciso5163
@ciso5163 27 дней назад
don't have fun playing a game
@nailfelagund7508
@nailfelagund7508 24 дня назад
It's a game, old man.
@_nemo171
@_nemo171 27 дней назад
After many user requests, finally a Kramnik joke. Go Ben. One for each of ya.
@scowell
@scowell 27 дней назад
Ah... but Fischer went crazy! And developed Fischer Random because he didn't like normal chess anymore... not sure what my point is... I guess when you reach that level you have to do something else.
@scottwade3904
@scottwade3904 27 дней назад
the banned opening
@miguelfonseca1104
@miguelfonseca1104 27 дней назад
ironic that we in the silly era of chess and we still require the top gm's to dress up for events where even poker celebrities dress in pajamas for their events!
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety 22 дня назад
So timely! Just yesterday I was watching Eric Rosen playing the Stafford while high, drinking, _and_ cheating! Also swearing like a mofo.
@Woodflooralchemist
@Woodflooralchemist 27 дней назад
A lot of GMs speed run on alt accounts. But they wouldn’t tell you
@jakobdonskov
@jakobdonskov 22 дня назад
this is a very stupid take. im here for it!
@6872elpado
@6872elpado 27 дней назад
The good old man talk!
@scottp2747
@scottp2747 27 дней назад
I don't think black missed Bishop takes rook; I think black wanted to be able to castle first. But maybe that's not an important consideration.
@pommedemer1922
@pommedemer1922 27 дней назад
White is dead lost on move 3, if you play a4 Ra3, at lest go to e3 or g3 if black doesnt take it, this goofy ass dude just played b3 instead, so taking it immediately is justified
@peace_in1move
@peace_in1move 27 дней назад
Ben you need "a Bex and a good lie down". Catch up on that sleep. The fundamentals are still in place and honoured. Christ look at the depth of opening study needed to compete successfully OTB. All is well young Ben🎉
@nawll11
@nawll11 27 дней назад
take chess seriously! *rawr*
@Cruz0e
@Cruz0e 27 дней назад
Magnus is also retired, fully ... and not world champion anymore
@milkisdeliciousfriendshipi1488
@milkisdeliciousfriendshipi1488 27 дней назад
GM Finegold, You’re owed a debt of gratitude
@vartananq
@vartananq 27 дней назад
As long as it's not 0, there is a chance! Thanks Ben
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 27 дней назад
Gawking Rebel? Well, it is Georgia. XD
@vivvpprof
@vivvpprof 27 дней назад
rabble*
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 27 дней назад
@@vivvpprof Your word sounds like my word, yet means something different. One of us must be making a joke. I wonder which one?
@knightrider585
@knightrider585 27 дней назад
Surely Alekhine's Defense is an early troll opening, inviting White to harass the knight with pawn moves, forcing the knight around the board.
@andsviat
@andsviat 27 дней назад
I think my chances of playing against Magnus Carlsen is minus Infinity.
@Demian_R
@Demian_R 27 дней назад
@hammer313
@hammer313 27 дней назад
your whole life was very serious, but how hard was it to make a living? Imagine you were single the whole time, would have made enough to never worry about paying for rent, food, health, entertainment, holidays, etc? I got the impression back in the good old days, it was a tough life being a full time professional chess player.
@robmckennie4203
@robmckennie4203 27 дней назад
"i feel like I'm owed something for looking at this" isn't this sub game analysis? Didn't the person who sent the game in pay $5 to get it analysed?
@hobebe9191
@hobebe9191 27 дней назад
yes
@glenncooper3524
@glenncooper3524 27 дней назад
That was terrible. The game too. Just kidding. It sucks but Magnus is serious most of the time. Hikaru too and all the top guys. Try not to take it so hard Ben.
@geggs3731
@geggs3731 27 дней назад
When top players go with joke openings, it’s crap for 5 moves but then they play to win. They’re odds games. If the gawking rabble wanna play odds games, let’em.
@geggs3731
@geggs3731 27 дней назад
It can be interesting to watch a good player come back from a bad position. Bad players, not interesting.
@owensthethird
@owensthethird 27 дней назад
Meme Chess, What else?
@robmckennie4203
@robmckennie4203 27 дней назад
Lighten up man it's just a game, it's very funny that ben is like "chess isn't serious anymore, chess should be very serious, yeah i don't take it serious because it's more fun to do silly things, but everyone else should be very very serious"
@nailfelagund7508
@nailfelagund7508 24 дня назад
Haha exactly, children are dying around the world and we're supposed to take a board game seriously 🤣
@Nippleless_Cage
@Nippleless_Cage 12 дней назад
​@@nailfelagund7508One has nothing to do with the other.
@Josh-cz3ym
@Josh-cz3ym 21 день назад
this is the greatest rant I have ever witnessed
@LizaFan
@LizaFan 27 дней назад
The truth hurts.
@AaronBrand
@AaronBrand 27 дней назад
LOL!
@andreitiberiovicgazdovici
@andreitiberiovicgazdovici 27 дней назад
if you want some great advice on which stupid openings you should play, go to Gothamchess, you certainly won't be disappointed👍😆 (and he also adds some extras: he almost always suggests the stupidest possible variations even in the openings he's been using for years.. .) a misunderstood genius in short🤣
@mariuszpudzianowski8400
@mariuszpudzianowski8400 27 дней назад
I love how Gotham is always showing moves that aren't the best or simply losing for the opponent when playing something from his course. Then you analyze it and see how much he manipulates information.
@andreitiberiovicgazdovici
@andreitiberiovicgazdovici 27 дней назад
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 very true😆👍 I, on the other hand, want to give just a simple example, but which explains many things: according to him, the Caro Kann is his favorite defense, and he knows it very well down to the smallest details (and he is an I.M.) in his videos and courses, in the Advanced Caro-Kann, where the best (and most played) 3rd move by the black player is 3...Bf5, he instead suggests 3...c5, and has stated several times (including on Lex Fridman's podcast), that according to him it is the best variant since "the computer says that black has already equalized"... that is, being pawn down on the fourth move and with white still having the advantage of moving first? But which computers does he use?🤣 but even if it were true, the vast majority of kids he offers it to are 500-1400 elo at most, certainly not Stockfish... do you think they would gain any advantage by playing in a similar way? I don't think so, and as a "teacher" he is actually making good money... America is a Great Nation...🤣👍
@mariuszpudzianowski8400
@mariuszpudzianowski8400 27 дней назад
@@andreitiberiovicgazdovici Yeah he should just say that 3... c5 is less known and can give your opponent trouble but instead he's just lying.
@Brian22-up3eu
@Brian22-up3eu 27 дней назад
Ben the voice of sanity in chess world.
@gmatsue84
@gmatsue84 27 дней назад
That's sanity enough for so many platforms: chess, football, basketball...
@carsonbath6345
@carsonbath6345 27 дней назад
moves start at 9:41, dear god, 2nd move at 11:56
@rene563
@rene563 27 дней назад
seems like someone stole the keys of the key keeper
@a1000car
@a1000car 19 дней назад
Great rant. Who speaks so is not stuttering.
@danielevans8728
@danielevans8728 27 дней назад
You have a point, but it comes across like the old guy yelling at kids for having fun.
@Kay-im6ht
@Kay-im6ht 24 дня назад
I honestly thought it was going that way, but he never really stated it was bad or he disapproves, he just kinda explains the situation how it is. I think it's obvious it's not how he prefers chess to be, but I don't think his analyses of the situation is all that bad. Besides, clubplayers who take the game seriously and are passionate about getting better still exist. They still run most of the actual tournaments being played in real life, no matter what your level. It's just where before online chess was just a place club players tried to improve in their free time, it has now just kinda become a world of its own. But the sillyness doesn't erase those serious players. And dabbling in both worlds is honestly pretty fun. Maybe when you are present to such a degree in that online chess world, it's easy to forget the OTB serious players are still thriving.
@mrpocock
@mrpocock 27 дней назад
So I think perhaps you're being a bit too angry old man. At the higher professional level, everyone has 60 moves of theory. The crazy openings drag people out of theory so that you get down to playing chess rather than remembering book moves as soon as possible. And the engines have shown its just how much we stuck at chess, and how far from perfect we play even when playing as well as humanly possible.
@richardv.2475
@richardv.2475 27 дней назад
About the only thing I really enjoy about the world today is that people are getting less and less serious about it, about the sh*t that is whirling everywhere. I mean in the old days when people worn shirt with tie and they pretended everything was serious and made sense and everyone had a big family with the idea this was the right way of life and for the betterment of everything , I just don't know how people were able to move forward with that zillion tons of bullshit. In contrast, when somebody like Nakamura who has 50 million $s plays Magnus who could play 2900ish chess and they are just trolling each other for minutes and laughing like Beavis and Butt-Head, that restores my fate in life and humanity.
@robertr.1879
@robertr.1879 27 дней назад
Another anthology quote from Ben: "half of the chess players want to play blitz while been high or drunk and the other half is cheating".
@kmarasin
@kmarasin 27 дней назад
I agree, popular = nonsense
@Joshwaheazo
@Joshwaheazo 19 дней назад
That game is exactly why I don't play rapid or blitz....I wouldn't even feel good about beating that white player.
@mariuszpudzianowski8400
@mariuszpudzianowski8400 27 дней назад
Apparently Danya didn't play Magnus, some GM made a post on reddit about the whole thing and said he was banned unfairly as he wasn't cheating. Weird stuff.
@jank_memes
@jank_memes 27 дней назад
But the question is how do you get away form this nonsense and actually improve your play when the nonsense is so prevalent?
@zainquadri1206
@zainquadri1206 27 дней назад
I believe I played Magnus Carlsen and I know MJ and Elvis Presley are alive and in hiding because I've met both of them simultaneously and they told me everything...
@JackMott
@JackMott 27 дней назад
downvote for "kids these days" attitude. don't go down that road, don't die angry and sad. see the light, there is plenty.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 27 дней назад
That's a good assessment of today's chess scene. It seems that majority of new chess players since the pandemic are more interested in trolling than in learning chess. That's fine I suppose. They can continue trolling while the few continue to improve and gain rating. Eventually, the trolls will get tired of wasting their time and move on to something else while we continue to enjoy this beautiful game.
@mariuszpudzianowski8400
@mariuszpudzianowski8400 27 дней назад
I welcome troll openings as they are really fresh and fun to play against especially in short time formats. As long as they aren't cheating it's all good in my book.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 27 дней назад
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 . I hear you. My point is that I also play OTB and use online to get better as a chess player. My goal is to get to NM and playing troll openings aren't going to help me. But like I said, trolls can play whatever they want and I will continue improving my chess. Thanks for the reply! Cheers!
@glum_hippo
@glum_hippo 26 дней назад
Why are you even covering this awful, senseless game?
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