Krillin VS Omni-Man Is Not Fair 

Very true!

That makes them seem way weaker than they actually are. Even the weakest characters at the START of DBZ are planet busters. Perfect Cell was at least galaxy level, and he gets bodied by everyone in Dragonball today. Everyone in the tournament of power, even the weaker ones, scale to low multiversal attack potency. Everything past the Buu saga is beyond UNIVERSAL in strength.

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@tebogothegift4842that was in super after he retired he started training again in the Moro arc I’m pretty sure, plus he trained in the TOP

Is he human?

In ant other story Krillen is untouchable

DBZ kinda did krillin dirty, and for as many complaints about super i have, itsone thing that super did good on. i think they put krillin in a good story arc, gave him some good fight scenes and really showed just how powerful of a human he is.

@@boondogglet132 but did every other human dirty. Tien needs more screen time

yeah, he's a big fish in a bigger pond. He's just small in comparison to all the other fish there. But put him in Invincibles' pond, he's likely to be the biggest fish there.

@bavarian-fo8nx nahhh das foul 💀

Nah, he got a point​@@Konroil

Not a pure heart tho lol

@@buttnuttz6119 Gotta love 18 somehow. Funny how we all still call her 18, when her name is Lazouli.

Actually no your probably looking down at him because of the… you know. Still a good dude tho

Even by Toriyama himself. Wastes like 15 episodes of Krillen training and invents a new version of Solar Flare... uses it on the blind guy.

@@TheJadeFist Exactly!

he's weak in comparison to the main roster in his universe. But you gotta remember he's still part of that main roster, and the higher ends of that roster are galaxy busters at least

@@fireblast133 That’s what I was thinking, like even the ‘weak’ characters in Dragonball still have the ability to destroy a planet in one blast.

Dude can possibly destroy a solar system but chooses to hang out with people who can decimate a universe.

This doesnt't even bring up how tough and durable Krillin is whom can tank a nuke up the ass without a scratch while he sings his infamous puppy song.

omni man was able to hold a speedster who is so fast one minute feels like a hour for him so tell me how could he hold someone like that

​@@johntravolta8389since when?

@@crismon0726 bro krillin can move light speed, omni man almost got smoked by one of the slowest speedster in fiction 💀💀

​@Alvaro-rf2vp you referring to the show? Because comic omniman wasn't even fazed or touched by the guardians of the globe. Let alone red rush. Dude flies so fast he sets the atmosphere on fire and punches through planets. I'm honestly not actually sure who wins here. What's krillin going to do when omniman one taps the planet and leaves him spiraling in space? Can he survive a planet buster attack? Does he need air? Lots of variables here.

That's the fairest it goes 😂

Still goes to raditz no diff Roshi about 200 power lvl destroys moon in one kamehameha Piccolo 330 power lvl destroys moon easily Radits is 1k power lvl he cooks omniman

@@kozykoa1327 nnah dawg big buff roshi

Farmer with a shotgun?

@@TheMonimator He's the real winner

Oh I get it Kaio-What?!

He destroyed the surface of the planet, not the planet itself.

​@@mikeval1525not even the surface. Just the people

It takes a power level of 159 to completely vaporize the Moon. Not destroy, not blowing to small chunks, not break in half... Completely vaporize. Believe it or not, that kind of force is enough to completely destroy Earth forever. Like, you don't have to vaporize Earth to make it uninhabitable. However, completely vaporizing Earth isn't that hard for a z-warrior either.

​@@mightythunderfoot Also it's not Just regular explosion. They blow the moon so fast people don't even see(in seconds of cinematic timing) which is vastly faster than a normal moon busting feat would be. Even If you don't wanna calc It, you Just to have an Idea that If it truly happens in seconds(which the context certainly implies) than it's a Lot more energy than normal since the explosion had to cover thousands of km in seconds.

I don't think Krillin is going to fodderize a character who can move massively faster than light with literally no effort. Krillin is NOT a light speed fighter.

⁠​⁠@@RazorStormInc Dawg Light Speed has been a thing since Dragon Ball, and even then its stated multiple times that Viltrumites dont use their true speed on planets because they would rip everything up. So Omni Man wouldn’t even adjust his speed because he wouldn’t have the time to before Krillin one shots him.

@@gliizee There were a couple in OG Dragon Ball, but they were retconned with DBZ; Goku didn't reacquire light-speed movement until he first turned Super Saiyan. Also, your Omni-Man vs Krillin argument is asinine. "He won't adjust his speed in time" is a really lazy way of capping his speed so that Krillin can win. Factually, in an all out fight WITHOUT any ridiculously biased constraints, Omni-Man would completely outclass Krillin in speed and physical strength. Edit: To be clear, Omni-Man is not just a couple times faster than light; or even just a hundred times faster than light: He surpasses the speed of light by orders of magnitude. *It is PROVEN, by his journey to Thraxa; that he can travel at over 3 BILLION times the speed of light. That doesn't come from me, that comes from the comic.* *_Krillin is not beating that._*

​@@RazorStormIncflight speed ≠ fight speed. Ur telling me a dude who gets blitzed by a weak flash can out speed krillin in a fight? Nah bro nappa was near flight speed and krillin easily surpassed him on namek.

@@Darkstormsun9865 You mean the weak flash who's head Omni-Man crushed in slow motion? You're out of your mind if you believe Nappa had a flight speed of over three billion times the speed of light. Yes, Omni-Man is in fact that fast. In the COMICS - you know, the source material? - he flew from Earth to the Virgo Supercluster on his own power within a week. It's mathematically proven and canonically acknowledged that he can move that fast. Neither Nappa or even DBS Krillin are anywhere near that fast.

Nah bro😂😭 in the comics that man was HEAVILY getting his ass whoope by thragg not one, two, but THREE times by thragg and he whooped omni man with ez. Third time he was dead for good

​@@animenerd4651to be fair, Thragg was the single most powerful Viltrumite in the universe and his mere NAME invoked the same kind of dread Frieza's name did. The fact Omni-man lasted as long as he did when fighting him was a testament to his strength. The only other who gave Thragg as much trouble was Battle Beast.

@@GenocideHeart exactly

Krilling would stomp. And Krillin is supposed to lose in DBZ; he is fighting universal threats. He has ki sensing so he knows he’s outmatched and still throw hands. Most people wouldn’t even show up for that fight

@@williamwatson9392 it’s really not fair to krillen cuz he’s literally the strongest human in the dbs universe lol

You can tell nobody in this comment section read the Invincible comics.

@@RazorStormIncI hate to break it to you, but NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK, these are talking about the ANIMATED shows, therefore, krilly pilly wins. Comics and Manga? Oh, it’s a bit closer.

@@AscendedHaven I just don't understand how Krillin is going to land a hit on someone so much faster than him.

@@RazorStormInc bruh- krillin is literally FASTER THAN light by a huge amount

@@AscendedHaven There is no feat, shown or stated; that shows Krillin is faster than light. Omni-Man DOES have shown and stated feats showing he's massively faster than light. Many Dragon Ball fans actually get their light speed statement from an English mistranslation during Goku and Piccolo's fight with Raditz. Yes, there are light speed feats in late DBZ and DBS, but not from Krillin.

If you are weak enough you are hard to detect that why they avoided flying

Millions of times actually cause rn he is multiversal as he is keeping up with base goku that absorbed the ssjg power to his base

That's filler my guy; let's stop making filler canon.​@@yanyannolife326

Didn’t vegeta destroy a galaxy at the start of dbz

⁠@@Flarious27hell nah my boy. If Vegeta could destroy galaxies that early the series would be over the second he stepped on Earth. Characters like Broly from the original Z movie were destroying galaxies and it would still be over time not in one attack.

@@yanyannolife326krillin is multi galaxy to low uni goku was holding back

Within the Z verse, he gets his ass whooped. In reality, he'd whoop everyones ass.

Omiman wasn't holding back against the guardian of the globe and based on immortals ability to hurt omniman in there second fight whereas in the first fight he wasn't doing as much damage then that means he was holding back against omni man. Krillin would solo the guardians. He could just blow them up in one move or use solar flare then throw a destructo discount to end them. NOolan is also one of the strongest viltrumites yet we see how the guardians had this man in the hospital meaning that the average viltumite would be random freiza solider level at best.

lets be serious krillin couldnt kill 18 tho 💀

@@kamikazehound3243 I respectfully disagree.

@@leviathanxz24 Nah, dude is pussywhipped

@@kamikazehound3243Fr. W.

And also his wife even one shot omni fodder and destory his race because she was strong enough to defeat ssj1 vegeta and Saiyan saga vegeta was weaker than android saga vegeta and the same saiyan saga vegeta was stronger than his father and his father also destory 3 planet at once while we didn’t see omni man race do that so android 18>Omni fodder and his race with no concept of diff diff without sweat

Yet there's nothing to imply he even could other than "well this character was shown doing this and krillin is stronger so therefore krillin can do it too" that's not how this works

what do you think doesn't sense in the scalling I can explaine it

Except, there’s nothing underestimate since Omni-Man is fodder to Krillin, lol.

For real, he is a lot stronger than people give him credit for

You're forgetting the time he goes up against the aliens who tried to invade Earth and casually rips apart both their homeworld *and their entire species*, genociding them to the last one. And he does all of it mostly just by flying around really fast.

​@@GenocideHeartyeah but that's orders of magnitudes away from destroying even a moon, which Krillin could do with a flick of a finger all the way back in the namek saga. Namek saga Krillin is the only ver of Krillin that Omni man at his strongest might beable to contend with for a few mins, any further vers of Krillin is no diffing Omni man

@@-canopus-513 Namek saga? What, no. If you are scaling Krilin based on Roshi, don't do it. Super conclusively proved that the old master hits WAY outside of his weight class and shouldn't be used as the baseline for anyone because he blithely ignores power levels and does damage to people he, by all rights, shouldn't even be scratching by now. Krillin's strong suit has always been his refined control on his ki, not destructive power. It is why his Kienzan can do damage to people way outside his weight class, managing to cut both Cell and Buu despite an absolutely colossal difference in personal power. But he also noted himself that he just can't hit nearly as hard as even Tenshinhan - in terms of raw power, Yamcha is basically the only one he overpowers. Everybody else hits much harder than him, even if you equalize power levels. He's basically the Technique type to his friends being Power types, in a nutshell. That refined ki control helps him stay relevant, but later on he struggles for a reason - outside the Kienzan, he just lacks firepower, and it shows.

@@GenocideHeart doesn't matter, considering half way through the Namek saga he's above a Saiyan saga Vegeta who can with a flick of his finger destroy a planet, so even if he's weak compared to his allies, he's still by all means a planet buster, also your talking about tenshinhan and Yamcha as if they both also wouldn't fodderize Omni man, saying he hits weaker than Tenshinhan is not an anti feat, they're still in the same class of Planet busters during early dbz(though Tenshinhan doesn't get the planet busting tier till the cell saga, while Krillin reaches it in the Namek saga) and then Solar system level in DBS. Roshi using the Kamehameha with a power level of 300~ easily destroyed the moon, Krillin with a 20k+ power level (which he got right after elder guru unlocked his potential, then at the end of the saga reached a power level of around 75-80k) using the Kamehameha should easily beable to surpass that by a huge margin, or if you wanna downplay him as much as you do then he should atleast beable to match that. The verses just aren't comparable, Namek Krillin shits on the entire Invincible verse.

@@-canopus-513 Roshi's default power level being 300 is why I say you can't scale off him. He is obviously able to hit way above his weight class seeing how he badly lagged behind all these years and yet in the ToP he holds his own against a guy who by all rights should have outright obliterated him with a mean look. It is very, very obvious that Roshi can temporarily produce bursts of power that hit waaaaaaay outside his power level, so him blowing up the moon after visibly powering up is clearly such an instance since it left him visibly drained, and his second best feat was using the same powerup to destroy the Ox King's mountain. As for Yamcha, he lost to a Saibaman of all things, and since then, he has basically not improved at all, something even he notes with more than a bit of bitterness when he remarks he's been obsolete since Vegeta first showed up. He hit his ceiling a long time ago, and is pretty much just there to pad the numbers since he hasn't done anything relevant in ages, other than dying in embarrassing ways for comic relief (a baseball game? Really?). Videl is arguably stronger than him, especially if you go by the OAVs, purely by virtue of her taking an attack from Broly and not dying immediately. If there is anyone in DBZ who is getting his shit pushed in even in Invincible, it's Yamcha. He is objectively that worthless, and I am being nice here, and doesn't even have the saving grace of outlier feats like Roshi - in fact, he has WORSE feats despite being supposedly much stronger power level wise.

like energy attacks mean anything to a guy whos taken over planets i think hes seen that before

Ya there’s no probably in it cause he certainly can easily it ain’t even funny.

@@joelikechi-konkwo1074 There's a difference from being able to devastate and/or conquer a planet by your self, and vaporizing it. Aside from that power difference, sure maybe he's seen energy attacks before, but it gives Krillen a ranged option that Omniman doesn't have, and Omniman probably wouldn't be able to sense the ki blast like many in dragonball can, so Krillen could be sneaky about it too if the attack curves around from behind.

@@TheJadeFist oniman literally flew so fast he lit the atmosphere of the planet he was on on fire krilllin has never blown up a planet and sure I guess you can say he's stronger then roshi cause roshi said all his students surpass him but to say he's stronger then king Vegeta the person that's not even human or friza the guy who killed him once is just so stupid 💀 not to mention oniman had years of exposure under his belt killin has barely won any fights and since hes not a Saiyan he doesn't get stronger everytime he gets his ass kicked 💀

@@joelikechi-konkwo1074 Almost every z-fighter minus Chiaotzu, Hercule, etc are way more powerful than King Vegeta cause power levels are BS and technically Krillin did surpassed Namek ver of Frieza in Dragon Ball Super. I do agree that Krillin hasn't got a lot of wins but let's be fair Omniman would not have any wins if he was in the Dragon Ball Z

Very interesting. It might be one of the next videos I do

Not any character

OMNI-MAN VS VIDEL WHEN

@@biam_ Didn't she have like 1 fight that she lost?

@@biam_ no cap, give videl 1 week in the time chamber......she no diffs omni man. i love invincible. but the verse doesnt scale to DBZ well AT ALL. marvel and DC on the other hand.........my guy a power level on 200 even is destroying moons! im pretty sure chi chi could beat omni man.

Lmao Omni fodder get ass kick by saiyan saga vegata already plus omni mid is not even strong enough to destory planet while he only destory A city and don’t even pull up that bs Comic because it need help and also the show when omni man destory planet was a speed not ap

@@ngawangchokden4351 I mean not "Pure Omni man on invincible universe".. I just said IF Omni man live in Dragonball, he train so hard in Dragonball and and he started to adapt to dragonball fighter (probably he improve his strength or maybe he have Ki power), I think his power development cannot be underestimated. If earth people (just like krilin,Tien,muten Roshi) can be grow strong in dragon ball because they are adapt with another fighter, why viltrumite not..

@@grafiano90 I mean yea but if omni man is still weak because goku did train more harder than omni man in cell saga but he knock out by cell and gohan has to do damage and defeat cell and I don't see omni man in what if dragon ball but I guess it my opinion btw

DBZ character's are too strong 😂

@@kozykoa1327 Ya if you want to compare direct pound for pound punching weight. It might be a more interesting question if that X person has less direct ways of fighting, or uses magic or something else that makes them dangerous outside conventional fighting. For example, that's part of what makes Jojo's Bizarre Adventure combat interesting, it isn't just about who's the strongest, it's how do these apparitions with unique power sets interact, and how can they use that to their advantage over some one with their own completely unique power set.

Superman literally slams the verse. He has better feats than everybody in db and his one universe is infinitely larger then the db multiverse and he one shot a multiverse 😂 it’s an unfair fight. Cosmology is key to scaling and the world forger feat just makes db fodder to superman. Only Zeno can stand a chance by erasure but that won’t work cuz the meta-verse revolves around him, even in-universe writers couldn’t change him

i can get him past multiversal lol

Krillen damaged, tanked, and dodged hits from cell max...let that sink in...😂

high galaxy. Base goku is uni

base goku is low complex multi atleast@@mrfreshafrican1233

same as krillin he is base goku level@@mrfreshafrican1233

I know he wasn’t in blue form but he had the form and his power level was still insane

Anyone who knows Goku knows he still held back. I keep seeing people treat that friendly spar like Goku was fighting seriously.

If the anime is to be believed, Yamcha is Ginyu Force level during the Namek saga. He would wipe the floor with Omni-man. That was technically filler though, so who knows

That's a heck of an advantage. Especially when it wouldn't take him going all out. He could do it and still have energy to fight

@@desiretuiel omniman can be half dead and still have the strength to smash the skull of the guy that did it to him. Krillin would be half dead and barely able to stand because their strength is dependent on their physical well being

@@SephirothXValentine That argument is weak bro your scaling it wrong

@@SephirothXValentine Dude Thragg made Nolan look like a fucking chump and not even Thragg was planetary level, Viltrumites are not invincible they take damage they can be cut and blown apart just as easy as people in Dragonball, since Krillian has the edge in strength and speed the only chance Nolan has is using his martial arts to overwhelm Krillin but it won't work. Krillian has been fighting people stronger than Nolan for 30 years of his life he has so many abilities that would stop Nolan dead in his TRACKS, Omniman cannot be half dead and still fight it has been proven many times, then Thragg stuck his hand through Nolan's chest that man was almost dead and could do nothing but watch as Thragg went and beat his son up too.

Blowing up a planet isn't just blowing up rocks. You have to overcome the gravitational pull of the planet or it won't separate even if you smash the whole rock. Breaking a planet and blowing up a planet are not the same thing.

Omniman would finish krillin off before he even does that

Instead of a fight..Id rather see a conversation between Vegeta and Nolan..they are both pretty simmilar characters and have a simmilar character arch regarding their family.

My nigga Nolan wouldn't let that slide I'm just saying😂🤷🏽‍♂️

@@ezfnw you need to understand how the power system in dragonball works my guy.

Unlike viltrumites, most people in DB need to raise up their Ki in order to fight and receive damage. In that sense, sure if Omni catches Krillin with a sneak attack he is down, but if my boy manages to raise his defences, then it's over for Nolan.

@@kepabra3782 This, you summed it up nicely :) people always think frieza was throwing out arbitrary percentages in their fight on namek, turns out he was just being real with us.

That was inconsistency on the writer's part.

He definitely could