KTM 450 vs Stark Varg 

Oh yeah for sure

And the fact it has 30hp more than the 450.

I agree👌

Gonna open more ohv parks and tracks possibly

Ignorance is a bliss. I tried it and its so much better. Stark varg is too mcuh fun.

Main issue is run time. For the riding I do the stark would not make sense.

Have you actually ridden a stark ?

@@Ozfreerider2504 yes I have actually and don’t get me wrong I loved it but I still love the old petrol dirt bikes over the stark varg just cause they have been around longer and I don’t exactly trust the reliability with the stark varg but so far stark vargs are slowly crawling to the top of my list in favourite bikes

@@Motomates-2fast4u well I can appreciate that you have ridden one and are making an informed comment . I’ve seen SO man people say how crap and stupid they are but they havnt ridden them . I’ve had mine for a few months and for me i it makes gas bikes feel so outdated and to be honest stupid to ride ! I rode a friends brand new 450 ktm back to back with it and the ktm vibrates like crazy and feels so goofy going back to changing gears . The game as been elevated so much that I’m not ever going back now

@@Ozfreerider2504 I can agree to that

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Me too man. F the agenda

its different for bikes than cars, its cooler on bikes. I like the no shifting aspect@@TheREALLibertyOrDeath

You first have to figure out what you're going to use it for. Are you going to motocross or trail ride, there is a difference. Then, just pick any inexpensive, well maintained bike.

Can the Varg complete a moto? Can it complete a qualifier and a main. If not, it's junk.

Ok thank you for the information! 😊

​@@jonwoodworkerit can

Stark Varg is perfect for beginners. I have a Varg

I recommend a Huffy or Mongoose

yz 125

Ktm 500exc very slow and cheap for starters

MAICO 700 2 stroke enduro

They offer a totally different riding experience for sure. Wicked fun!

meaningless

Not really. My buddies bring their inverter generators to the track and give it a full charge while they groom the track at lunch time. At Okechobee you get to ride MX1 or MX2 track for 15 mins per session and you have 30mins in between, that is more than enough time to get a decent charge with the 220v connect it comes with. These are guys that also bring their gas bikes for the fun as well. I ordered mine, but I'll keep my KTM 450 Factory Edition to rip as well.

It’s a private property track I believe

@@BootyMaster69396 I want in! lol

Everyone's mileage will vary. At the track I ride every weekend where it is deep ripped heavy loam, I can do2 x 20 min sessions ser at 55hp map, and the battery will run down to about 20%. At home on my natural terain hardpack track, on a 48 hp map, I easily get an hour and a half out of it till its down to about 20%. At another commercial track I sometimes ride, that is basically half tilled sandy loam and the other half concrete hard clay wih black rubber marks all over it and a lot of big floaty jumps, I recently did 2 x 20 min motos and still had 43 % battery left. Battery range depends on a lot of factors. I love the varg and my other bikes are gathering cob webs

​@philiprourke7732 that's awesome! I'm glad you like it, and thanks for the detailed info! If I had a few back yard tracks I would have one myself! But I live in the city so that dream is dead. I mostly ride track but occasionally I like to hit the trails so an ebike wouldn't work for me. I guess if I brought a generator to the track it might work.. how long would it take for a portable generator to charge it up for another moto? Or maybe I could let my trucks altinator charge it up with a DC-DC charger. Hmm now you got me thinking 🤔

@@DOO718 I only have a 2..2 kv inverter generator, a cheap one and not very powerful, but I take it to the track with me now because Ive only been riding the Varg lately. It can only charge the varg at 4 amps. The charge rate is adjustable in the app between 2 and 10 amps, with 10amps obvioubeing a faster charge. But at 4 amps charging from my little generator I go ride for 15 to 17 mins with a full battery on the deep lam track, come back with about 71% battery, put it on the gen until mynext sessin is up and thats about 50 mins or so and its back up to around 93% go out and do it again...iff I keep doing that I get about 4 sessins in and Im done and the battery is still in the 60% range..so I really dont need to do that..could probably get my 4 sessions in for the day with one charge of about 50 mins duration. At that other track I mentioned, I would probably get an hourofriding time and Id be done without needing to charge through the day..as I saud , everyones milage will vary. I got a test ride on a Varg at my local heavy loam track maybe 6 months b4 mine arrived. It was set at 52 hp, I rode for 14 mins and used 37% battery, was thinking range was likely gonna be an issue for me at this track..Im a track worker there and ride there pretty much every time its open. Just b4 my bike arrived, stark announced an update that they were claiming was gonna add an extra 10 to 15 % battery range on average. When my bike came, I installed the update b4 riding it , so apart from that 1 test on the demo bike, I have no base of reference. But...I remember I used 37% in 14 mins at 52 hp..I made a note of that. On that same track, Im using around 30% in about 16 mins at 55 hp and running a much faster pace that it was possible for me to do on that quick demo test. So it does seem that it does last longerafter that update. This weekend Im racing it for the first time in mx1 c class..3 x 15 min + 1 motos , I will be locked in at 60hp in the race mode on the app....its a hard pack track after the first round of motos. I will take my generator and put it on charge after moto 1 , then see what its got left after moto 2, probably wont need any extra charge..I guess I will find out

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it makes the bike flip in air if you blip the throttle

They suck or you just can’t afford it? Jk i don’t see why anyone would want to ride a motocross bike that doesn’t have the 2stroke smell filling the stadium or the thumping of the 4 strokes. Lol imagine going to a super cross with electric bikes just all quiet

Facts are they preform better

It really depends on what kinda riding u wanna do

@@biggestbudu5804you wrong

Cuz you can’t afford it

And when you’re 70 and have no feeling in your feet….. you buy a Stark and keep on MXing!

@@larryhanes8527 yeah exactly...I will be 60 in a little over a year, and this bike will certainly keep me out there on the track having fun for years to come. My ankles are rubbish...this bike negates the problem in avery big way

@@philiprourke7732check out the ankle saver foot pegs. Two torn Achilles tendons pushing me to try them.