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KTM Wanted £1000 to fix this £3.30 problem 🤣 

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In this series of two videos we take a look at a KTM690 Duke with terrible running problems. KTM gave the owner a quote of £1000 to fix the issue, in reality it needed a part that cost £3.30!
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@Kx0195
@Kx0195 4 месяца назад
And this is why everyone everywhere should be well versed in the right to repair movement. Dealers and companies will extort you to the end of the earth if they are allowed to, we need clear regulations forcing companies to provide repair schematics and diagnostic tools.
@truantray
@truantray 20 дней назад
It's far worse than that. Some manufacturers in the mid 2000s started designing bikes to fail post warranty by the use of plastics with defined heat cycles and this is the business model for the company. See a certain Bavarian brand. This is not poor design, it's designed failure.
@DennisMoore17
@DennisMoore17 6 месяцев назад
Great video!! Makes me appreciate older bikes with carburetors.
@daveffs1935
@daveffs1935 19 дней назад
KTM seem to be scammers. My mate let his super duke sit for 6 months, it wouldn't run right after. They quoted him 900 to sort it out telling him they'd have to strip the fuel system and refresh it. I drained the fuel, put fresh fuel in and ran some injector cleaner through it (red x if you're interested). Sorted it out for 25 quid including the fuel.
@vito1064
@vito1064 15 дней назад
they are.they charged me 920 for a normal service to my GT. nothing broken, just fluids and valve check. they won't see me again
@eflanagan1921
@eflanagan1921 9 дней назад
@@vito1064 Wow , hope you got kissed and flowers !
@patrickwatters7555
@patrickwatters7555 5 месяцев назад
Motorcycles used to be a cheap form of transportation, that you could service or repair yourself. Now look , and they're saying bike sales are dropping. No sh*t 😅
@lassikinnunen
@lassikinnunen 4 месяца назад
They still are, cheap as new bikes anyway are and parts are cheap. Western market tends to be speed toys though and the 125 euro segment basically erases the cheap sub 400cc segment in europe..
@truantray
@truantray 20 дней назад
The biggest problem in modern bikes is CAD design and how compact everything is packed. A spark plug change is now a 2-3 hour job. Valve spacing is now an engine out job.
@assessor1276
@assessor1276 18 дней назад
When I hear “KTM” - I hear awesome performance and then I hear shitty reliability and idiotically costly parts. Solve your problem: buy a Japanese bike and ride rather than fix..and pay, and pay, and pay….and pay…..
@moriwaki1105
@moriwaki1105 6 месяцев назад
Give me a gravity fed set of carbs any day.
@robocombo
@robocombo 6 месяцев назад
Methodical, evidence based troubleshooting. Massively appreciate your videos! Every mechanic should work like that but so few do.
@user-ii1py5bw1b
@user-ii1py5bw1b 4 месяца назад
My ktm Duke did the exact same thing, new spark plug and it will ride brilliant for a few hundred miles, I'll bet the valves need re-shiming, they need adjusting often on these little thumpers
@virtuosomuso
@virtuosomuso 6 месяцев назад
Love these diagnostic vids Jim , so interesting 👍
@rickcrespo5410
@rickcrespo5410 6 месяцев назад
Nice video! Please keep them coming. I don't know if the fueling system on this bike and the RC390 are the same, but my 15' RC390 had a starting issue and would also run lean. It turned out that the fuel hose wasn't sealing correctly. Hence, the fuel pressure was incorrect, making it stall and backfire on the declaration. It was also intermittent because the hose would move around, have better sealing at one moment, and be squirting fuel back into the tank the next minute.
@razor1uk610
@razor1uk610 17 дней назад
...so it sounds like there were no fuel hose clamps/circlips fitted, or the hose is getting old and needs replacing with a generic fuel hose of correct inner diameter, cut to length, and with clamps/clips.
@richswain6996
@richswain6996 6 месяцев назад
My 690 wouldn't start at fuel station after refuel. Got it going and limped home popping and banging. Turned out to be fuel pressure relief valve
@RedRupert64
@RedRupert64 6 месяцев назад
Had almost that on a KTM 950 Adventure (carbs) in the summer. The idle would dip down every ten seconds. Sometimes the dip would cause it to stall, other times it would only just recover. It was a new NGK spark plug that caused it. With the bad plug it would ride alright at high revs, but was playing up at low revs.
@harryw9598
@harryw9598 4 месяца назад
watch them ngk's there are counterfit ones out here.
@Jones-xx2gc
@Jones-xx2gc 5 дней назад
This is a great video. It just shows how complicated motorcycles have become. The cost of servicing and repairs is getting rediculous.
@jezfrench9435
@jezfrench9435 3 дня назад
Had a 2008 990 superduke since 2013. Apart from the common fault of the water pump oil seal its never missed a beat. Thank christ, the part prices are eye watering 😳
@riccicrozzie8204
@riccicrozzie8204 6 месяцев назад
11k miles on a Duke 3, it's almost new. Your mic is lucky, I'd love to have a muff just laying around 😂 If you're not aware, instead of purchasing a higher pressure relief valve, you can modify the original. And, with the free play in the gears within the throttle body, if you release the tension on the two lower screws holding the stepper motor, you can eliminate all of the free play by gently using a screwdriver between the housing and the stepper motor mounting plate, apply a little pressure, check the play, and retighten.
@davidsandilands1285
@davidsandilands1285 6 месяцев назад
WAFNM Simple don’t buy a ktm, 😜
@tommoso55
@tommoso55 6 месяцев назад
Really liking the regular vids ol lad
@brandywell44
@brandywell44 6 месяцев назад
Nice video, thanks Jim.
@user-dv7hb2sc9m
@user-dv7hb2sc9m 13 дней назад
Sir, all of your videos are entertainment..... Hell, I don't even own a bike but here I am watching you fix stuff the Dealer's don't want anything to do with them ! It's a great cH!T sHOW that's "Super" entertaining for me to watch ! GiT-R-Done !
@andrewstaton4969
@andrewstaton4969 4 месяца назад
Hi,,loving this channel. Is it possible to reset the ecu without the ktm software? What equipment do I need, i have an rc390? Thanks
@nbowling10trio
@nbowling10trio 12 дней назад
This why i ride older bikes.preferably evo sportsters.i have 4 and a vrod. Hammer performance 1275 kit and good suspension makes them a fun and reliable machine. Mine are carbies,89 model,94,02,03.the vrod is 04. All of them have been dead reliable. The one thing that tends to go out on them is ignition module but hammer kits include dynatek upgrade.
@princesssolace4337
@princesssolace4337 5 месяцев назад
got the same issue .... turns out its the crank sensor going bad .... its already over 100,000km .... its a 2014 Duke 690R
@petergrinnell2500
@petergrinnell2500 13 дней назад
This is like anything you buy new motor bike any vehicles it's all electrical and don't want people fixing them and take them to the dealership and a expensive job I stick to any thing old I've got a cheap lifan -mirage 156-fmi engine easy to fix cheap parts nothing special 14 plate 55000 miles only paid £500 it's never let me down I'm old school mechanic and welder fabricatior don't do anything electrical or technical can't be dealing with it good luck with it but sounds like you really know your stuff just found your channel 👍
@dkjens0705
@dkjens0705 6 дней назад
I have a Husqvarna SM610S that has a very bad miss. From the paperwork that came with it (it was imported to Thailand from Japan) the chassis # comes back as a 1998 or 1999 and it is absolutely impossible to find spares for this bike. Having a single 577cc engine miss all the time except for when you're really on it makes it exhausting to ride. You have to hang on for your dear life and starting slow turns out from a driveway or street you're always in danger of going down if it quits. It's been parked for two years but I have to give it another attempt, the bike is big and cool.
@stp7049
@stp7049 6 месяцев назад
Two words...Merino and wool👍 Loving these vids as always
@agnosticevolutionist3567
@agnosticevolutionist3567 14 дней назад
De rust your tanks , this E10 petrol is rusting tanks quicker than a rabbit running . Be aware it can cause no end of trouble.
@mikeamphlett7913
@mikeamphlett7913 18 дней назад
Never owned one. But this would piss me off.
@ianlawrie919
@ianlawrie919 6 месяцев назад
One is exponentially wiser albeit completely over my head 😂👍👏👌
@zrig1
@zrig1 12 дней назад
I have that very same toughpad. What software are you running on it?
@user-cc4pr8wc4w
@user-cc4pr8wc4w 15 дней назад
Bring back the CARBURETTOR 💪😎
@DanWallis86
@DanWallis86 5 месяцев назад
Did that coolant temp sensor show -40 deg?
@AaaaandAction
@AaaaandAction 9 дней назад
Did you notice it won’t start on continuous cranking then starts on first cycle of next attempt.
@elobiretv
@elobiretv 6 месяцев назад
Been sat since summer and fuel is full of water now maybe?
@blowduke
@blowduke 6 месяцев назад
These things vibrates like hell shakes everything to bits
@truantray
@truantray 20 дней назад
The reason why most manufacturers avoid big thumpers. Physics.
@Alan_Stewardson
@Alan_Stewardson 10 часов назад
I literally said to my Mrs soon as the bike wouldn't start properly on the button its fuel or spark issue. She said its a throttle problem 😅I said whys that, she said because the guy said so 😂😂. NO love if the bike ain't starting on the button and he ain't even touched the throttle it ain't the throttle lol
@DanMotoLife
@DanMotoLife 6 месяцев назад
Hi, good video. I have 2008 690 supermoto with similar issue on my garage now. TPS calibration was bad, fixed. Spark plug cap was dead, fixed. But that didn't solve the problem. I checked the fuel pressure - good. Hmm.......... Then I checked the valve clearances. The intake is clamped. The output is a bad rocker arm. I'm waiting rocker arm now, hope this solves the problem.
@ritid69
@ritid69 6 месяцев назад
KTM eat rockers
@pauln6803
@pauln6803 4 месяца назад
​@@ritid69 The second gen 690 LC4 bikes are renowned for rocker arm issues.
@taswr
@taswr 6 месяцев назад
You know what my spidey-senses tell me……. You change your senses a lot…… 😬
@heleti0000
@heleti0000 5 месяцев назад
KTM are typical of today’s problems - there are VERY FEW Tradesmen left. Fewer still “Mechanics”. Not many repair shops remain - they are generally remove, throw away and replace establishments.
@truantray
@truantray 20 дней назад
And you know why? Very few people are willing to pay tradesmen what they are worth.
@tonybubs2177
@tonybubs2177 5 месяцев назад
Also bike got better when warm got to be fuel oiling up
@martinowl
@martinowl 6 месяцев назад
Half a gallon of fresh petrol?
@st.johnwood5032
@st.johnwood5032 5 месяцев назад
KTM,we reckon it stands for kick ten minutes,how come in this day and age manufacturers can't build reliable bikes or cars,they cost a fortune,a selection of them have fuelling problems from new,need re mapping etc, what a waste of time,going back and forwards to dealers workshop's for a fix.
@ianbancroft9782
@ianbancroft9782 18 дней назад
I thought it was Keeps Taking Money!
@raybrensike42
@raybrensike42 11 дней назад
Did anyone with a 350 Honda have this sort of problem back in the 70's?
@colfergusson4242
@colfergusson4242 6 месяцев назад
Great videos, longer the better for me anyway 👍
@lrdisco2005
@lrdisco2005 16 дней назад
At 6.06 in, my guess is intake air leak.
@john-wq8kf
@john-wq8kf 16 дней назад
Bit like abs problems on bm’s no more bmw’s for me either
@florianhelm999
@florianhelm999 5 месяцев назад
ktm? Got myself a 1050 adv back in 2016, 60.000km now, never had the slightest problem. guess I am lucky 😅.
@truantray
@truantray 20 дней назад
KTM is a design company that manufacturs in some of the cheapest labor markets in the world. It's a gamble on whether they match a reliable design with reliable manufacturing. But a good rule of thumb is never buy a new model because they always have trouble.
@tonybubs2177
@tonybubs2177 5 месяцев назад
Watching video bike sounds like your using E10 not E5 ? Very fluffy pick up
@anonymous-ts6bm
@anonymous-ts6bm 5 месяцев назад
Can you even get that anymore? I thought every where was e10 now
@chris9650
@chris9650 4 месяца назад
Super unleaded is e5 I think. ​@@anonymous-ts6bm
@yufoh7753
@yufoh7753 5 месяцев назад
If this happens to yours, it's your own fault for buying one of their bikes. £1000 for a £3.30 fix? Sounds like KTM learned their trade from Ducati.
@pauln6803
@pauln6803 4 месяца назад
KTM get their throttle bodies as complete units from Kehin.
@Desertduleler_88
@Desertduleler_88 6 месяцев назад
KTM seem to have their share of electrical gremlins, another reason l wouldn’t buy one. Interesting video all the same.
@pauln6803
@pauln6803 4 месяца назад
The interesting thing is that most of the sensors are Japanese. The bikes themselves can be an absolute pain in the arse to work on though and there's a LOT of reports about poor dealership service.
@anwarersalle6943
@anwarersalle6943 13 дней назад
Duke 690's are really fun bike to ride...brings hoolinganisim in us 😂😂😂
@TheMotociclist
@TheMotociclist 19 дней назад
Watch to the end❤❤❤
@sicks6six
@sicks6six 4 месяца назад
I've got a 45-year-old Honda that runs better than that KTM ever did, I've got a hatred of KTMs from when they switched from dirt bikes to road bikes, they are overpriced, overhyped and unreliable, just my opinion,
@m2menuiserie540
@m2menuiserie540 4 месяца назад
Exactement.
@m2menuiserie540
@m2menuiserie540 4 месяца назад
Loved your account of the on the move compression test! Reliable confirmation. From the looks of that plug the fuel mix is fine, neither rich nor lean. But from someone who used to set ignition timing with a Rizla paper and a (hi-tech) trannie radio, that bike is the stuff of nightmares. A malfunctioning electronic hallucinogenic. As sicks6six says, KTMs are overpriced, overhyped and unreliable. In a word, shite.
@caveyful
@caveyful 5 месяцев назад
Don't forget KTMs' heritage is race bikes and 11k is more than a race bikes life. If youve got a bike with a carby never sell it.
@Paulkatz123
@Paulkatz123 5 месяцев назад
Ah ktm being a ktm
@twowheelsquirrel
@twowheelsquirrel 6 месяцев назад
I'm curious now what the £3.30 will be spent on. Not the spark plug surely?
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 6 месяцев назад
Not a spark plug, it's not click bate either, the part to completely fix it really did cost £3.30. All will be revealed in part 2!
@colfergusson4242
@colfergusson4242 6 месяцев назад
Plastic harness connector!
@bristolfashion4421
@bristolfashion4421 9 дней назад
with a lot of these it is almost certainly an issue to do with curry - often this is how it is
@Moto_Plus
@Moto_Plus 6 месяцев назад
I am surprised you didn't go for the Throttle sleeve/lines adjustment first then go after balancing the throttle bodies.
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 6 месяцев назад
Throttle bodies?? There's only one!
@riccicrozzie8204
@riccicrozzie8204 6 месяцев назад
Can you please define throttle sleeve/line's .
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 6 месяцев назад
​@@riccicrozzie8204 I'd also like the answer to that one!
@Moto_Plus
@Moto_Plus 6 месяцев назад
Sorry I didn't realize a 690 was a single cylinder, then it would only be the linkage to the single TB, there would be no balancing.
@riccicrozzie8204
@riccicrozzie8204 6 месяцев назад
@@Moto_Plus please tell me you're not a motorcycle mechanic.
@MrRadialdrift
@MrRadialdrift 4 месяца назад
I had to take back my KTM 4 times under warranty for an engine issue. All the KTM techs did each time was up the idle. They never fixed it due to 'our technicians are only good with mechanical issues, not electronic' My engine would stall randomly, I think it was a fueling issue at mid-low RPM. I sold it and thought fk KTM, never will buy one again.
@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider
@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider 5 месяцев назад
KTM keep taking money, and dealerships on the con lol
@hueysickle6338
@hueysickle6338 5 месяцев назад
KTM.kost thousands to maintain
@mechtechmechanical1571
@mechtechmechanical1571 4 месяца назад
great vid loads of info
@m.anejante1687
@m.anejante1687 4 месяца назад
So it was not a 3.3 problem...
@NoItAllLiveStreams
@NoItAllLiveStreams 5 месяцев назад
KTM are appalling with the reliability issues
@firestorm755
@firestorm755 6 месяцев назад
Don't singles just sound great?!
@SkidM3rks
@SkidM3rks 6 месяцев назад
A 690 with a decent exhaust going full throttle is what you wanna be listening to
@Cometviewer
@Cometviewer 6 месяцев назад
What’s the £3.30 fix
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 6 месяцев назад
You're going to have to wait until part 2, same time next week!
@Cometviewer
@Cometviewer 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV looking forward to it already..
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV That's some cheap labour!
@roybatty2030
@roybatty2030 4 месяца назад
Quite fancied one of these but this video made up my mind not to buy KTM.
@livinginthailand7487
@livinginthailand7487 16 дней назад
Wouldn't ever want to own a KTM
@mrbambix
@mrbambix 5 месяцев назад
All these people here with their remarks about ktm reliability electrical gremlins etc probably did not watch part two I guess😅
@daimonmt
@daimonmt 5 месяцев назад
Made in India 😬
@mbingham10
@mbingham10 5 месяцев назад
Typical KTM if you buy a KTM be prepared to look after it yourself because the AD’s are crap in my experience they are over priced when you consider the aftercare I’ve repaired all of my problems on my SMCR myself they are the Range Rover of the bike world best just go Japanese, mind you when it works it brings a smile to my face but its not very often
@timothyseabrook1584
@timothyseabrook1584 2 дня назад
I think the answer is to boycott KTM
@davidpickard9393
@davidpickard9393 5 месяцев назад
I liked the video I did not like the EFFING
@stonelemon03
@stonelemon03 10 дней назад
would you rather be deaf ?
@stu2427
@stu2427 23 дня назад
Bad name
@Carvetii
@Carvetii 5 дней назад
KTM absolute crap reliability
@davidmaskell8502
@davidmaskell8502 18 дней назад
Why do you keep swearing!
@phoneme52xxx6
@phoneme52xxx6 5 месяцев назад
Sorry; had to stop watching because of your frequent bad language. I was watching with my eight year old daughter….
@truantray
@truantray 20 дней назад
I agree. There is no point to the language and it just ruins an otherwise great channel. Swearing is just an ignorant use of language.
@kevinchamberlain7928
@kevinchamberlain7928 6 месяцев назад
Jim, never, ever do a wheelie on camera again, mate. Delete this comment, also.
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 6 месяцев назад
😂 Don't really think that counts as a wheelie to be honest, 4" off the ground 🤔 🤣
@kevinchamberlain7928
@kevinchamberlain7928 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV Be careful mate. Do your homework and consider deleting the video. Sorry to be a nag, mate.
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 6 месяцев назад
"Man on the Internet rides a motorbike slightly enthusiastically but doesn't break the speed limit" 😂😂 Hold the front page! Mate....nobody cares, apart from you, apparently. Whatever you do, don't watch ,"44 Teeth" it'll give you a stroke! 😂@kevinchamberlain7928
@HalfdeadRider
@HalfdeadRider 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV He'll have a heart attack if he popped over to my channel 🤣🤣🤣
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV Careful mate, he's the sort of genius to make a nuisance of himself at a vaccination centre... He might come make a nuisance of himself for you too xD
@wokeybrokey8006
@wokeybrokey8006 5 месяцев назад
Handle bars are not centered correctly
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 месяцев назад
I wondered if anyone would notice! 😁👍
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