Kung Fu vs Karate 

u re right

+david leca Finally someone with a response that makes sense. Thank you.

Yes, style is less important when kicking down open doors.

I agree with your opinion

thats why i never know why i click on these Fake mace videos -_-

Bad form? His punches and kicks look solid to me...

8 years in karate and taken first and second in Diamond Nationals for sparing. What you got? Look when he's punching and kicking, legs are way to spread out and they keep slipping!

8 years in Karate, that is impressive! You should contribute a video on good technique. As for me, I have nothing to boast about...

Andrew - There are sooooo many techniques in Karate as well as Kung Fu. More to come in the next video! :)

Stopped doing marital arts about a yearish ago, life happened, and tournaments and stuff got to spendy and moved to a small ass apt so no room for doing tornado kicks to put them on video! haha. Yes Kung Fu has many different techniques! With Karate its mostly all the same just different names...

Stefan Milisavljevic thats a very simplistic view!

Stefan Milisavljevic Chuck was a world champion and thats no mean feat

Miganarchine Thats coz he was taught by Bruce Lee! Hehe end of discussion

Miganarchine Taught more anyway...Chuck was still competing in a Karate tournament

Karate is originally a variation of Crying Crane Kungfu. Kara-te use to be written as 唐手 = Tang(China) Fist

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Kung Fu.

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace i playing kung fu its better

Kung fu it has defence and attack but karate has only attack and little defence leaving them weak when a strong Kung fu move swoops on them

Yoke Wong WongさんVery strange comment. Mr. Gichin Funakoshi the founder of 松濤館空手 or Shotokan Karate has a very famous quote:"空手に先手なし or there is no first strike in Karate.". From 那覇手(Naha Te) and 首里手(Shuri Te), 泊(Tomari Te) all have very strong defense.

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace srsly kung fu / tai chi is unbeatable / do you know the priest pai mei ?

SHRUIKAN Bai Mei has some great legends!!! :)

could you do a video about one of his fight techniques like eagle claw ?

i want to vearse you

can you do a video trying this in a real kyokushin tournament???

he forgot a Kamehameha ;)

+BlackDiamond He also forgot to sweep the leg.

He also forgot to restomp the groin

@@GuyInAHotdogSuit69 Mercy is for the weak. Sounds famillar?

black belt

lol I love how he say water XD of in other word shui.

what did he say?:)

"Never take your eyes of your Opponent"

"what did he say?" Stop asking me to say things to you - Bruce Lee on the set of Enter the Dragon

I like how your partner performs the Yoko Geri, with his grounded foot turning to the opposite direction for the extra ounce of power. As for which style is better, I have no idea lol.

Good stuff...I agree with your insight for the question, "Which Martial art is better." Its really not the style that matters but a person's skill, knowledge, and abilities, that will determine who or what is better... Thank you for sharing.

modernmarvel Yes, He's the Man!

Can I spar any of you? I can use my kyokushin on you and my chinese kempo on your friend and by the way black tiger technique? I would you to show me that in person can we agree to meet in your dojo?

digtongo Kyokushin FTW! I love the way you train. I have no idea where to find one of your dojo's so I have to walk through bad neighborhoods and hope to get mugged. Now stop terrorizing the kids, they cant hang.

Go figure, the guy in white is not even doing anything near any style of wushu kungfu...

Guy in black doesn't look bad, it's just karate freestyle is quite fluid. I would use loyto machida as example

Are you a martial artist yourself?

My brother is a black belt in Shaolin Do Kung Fu Plus Bruce Lee fought the best guy in the world at the time in karate. Bruce literally played within him. Karate is no match for king fu/tai chi or even Judo or Brazilian Jui Jitzu

@Bob's Your Uncle karate did not come from kung fu alone, most of it is japanese jujutsu developed in okinawa, then it got a chinese influence and developed alone

@@grantsmythe8625 go to a kyokushin or k1 tournament then come back and tell the same thing about karate. Also what does the mean? You phrased this as these two martial arts are inferior from Kung Fu which is at the very least laughable.

No they are not. But it does depend on the person. Martial arts wise with 2 equal fighters, kung fu has the upper hand. It has way more powerful kicks and more trick flips. But it does depend on the user.

Actually it’s the opposite

Kung fu and karate are trash I just don't know which one is worse, karate is some stupid ass kicks that would only work in unrealistic situations and kung fu Is just slapping each other with weird ass hand motions

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace I would say that he authentic kung fu is almost lost unless you find a true sifu, but in terms of Karate there are more pragmatic and spirited teachers around mostly because it is a fusion of southern shaolin kung fu, japanese taijutsu and okinawan rigorous close combat so you have 3 distinctive historical and geographical references which a common feature between them is "one blow, one kill" or the "Ichigeki hissatsu" concept. This is more tangible if you practice styles like Kyokushinkai. You could also add jujutsu and kendo's footwork, accuracy and promptness to this story and wrap it up as the eastern Chinese-Japanese art of war and self defence. However, in a wider scope, if we imagine Kung Fu as a temple and a general category, Karate would be one if its main pillars and as a whole, Kung Fu encompasses almost everything martial-religious over at least 30 centuries in mid to east Asia. There isn't nothing more fierce and effective, magnificient and creative than real Hung Ga, Wing Chun, Xingyiquan, Taijiquan or Bajiquan, (particularly) Shaolinquan etc. in real situations if the practitioner absorbed the essence under instruction of a real master. So lets forget this absurd question of " Which is better ...? ". There is (and has been) only one Martial Art as the natural physical expression of humankind for survival and then for purifying the spirit. - 3rd Dan in Shito-ryu Karate-Do - 2rd Dan in Goju-ryu Karate-Do - currently practicing Shaolin Luohanquan and Xingyiquan

Manoucher Nik After WWII what is 沖縄県(おきなわけん) Okinawa Ken or the prefecture of Okinawa would fall under US control (USCAR) from 1945-1972. 3/4 of all US military in Asia would be stationed on Okinawa. This would give the US G.I. 18 months to train under 沖縄空手先生 or Okinawan Karate teachers. On US bases in Okinawa such as Camp Foster, Camp, Kinser and even Kadena would have Okinawan Karate teachers come aboard and teach the 米国軍人(べいこくぐんじん)Beikoku Gunjin or US military G.I. After the GI would do their 18 months on the Rock (Okinawa) they would rotate back to CONUS or the US. Some would open 道場(どうじょう) Dojo(s) back in their hone towns.This would lead to Karate becoming very popular in the US around the 1960s. Hawai'i would also play a role on the spread of Karate to the mainland too. GIs who would be stationed there could also learn many 流(りゅう)Ryu or styles of Karate. The 1st 極真会館空手の道場 or Kyokushin Kaikan Karate dojo to open outside of Japan was on Honolulu, Oahu, Hawai'i under the late Mr. Lowe 師範 (Master). This is one of the leading reasons why 空手道(からてどう)Karate-Do has spread through the US. And if you look even a little closer you will see that a lot of Karate Dojo(s) were found around US bases.

1banryukyu very informative ichibanryukyu, thank you.

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i go kung fu class im number one my teacher is chinease his name is wei shen

I love training Iron Shirt!

@@RealKungFu give me iron

Thanks Kirbycathy! My best!

I agree Peter! Thanks!

yes sir u r right

Do you think your Wu-Tang sword can defeat ME???

agreed on your excellent analysis. although on the part of comparing fighting styles I must disagree, if the criterium is about effectiveness. there is absolutely a lot of difference in effectiveness between different styles. some are purely esthetic and useless in a real fight or selfdefense situation, and some are sufficiently realistic to provide the practitioner with serieus fighting skills. practically all of them have basic striking techniques but there is variation in the practicality of them, plus just knowing some striking techniques without having trained to apply them dynamically and effectively, and to be able to take some as well, is just too far from enough. not to mention other essential elements such as distances, grappling, weapons, and multiple opponents. however if the criterium is purely about esthetics, then it is solely a matter of taste and art in the meaning of esthetic art, not art in the meaning of practical skill. my opinion is however that martial arts pretend to teach practical skills, and therefor they should fulfill that promise or not pretend it in the first place. for example, I've never had a judoka pretend to know how to fight, although interestingly I'm sure a good judoka can wipe the floor with most of the best Kung Fu practitioners, all of whom do nothing but pretend to be good fighters, even to the point of claiming mystical supernatural powers.

+BlackDiamond oh yeah i see your point. Theres is room for comparison of styles with criteria. You mentioned some martial arts teach skills aesthetically (as we say "flowery and pretty") and look like they are pretending (or symbolic of real application), and that skills should but taught on there practical application only. But i believe martial arts are still art in the same way painting and music is art. And most I techniques that i teach, i start with the traditional execution of the technique and teach application or how its used in real life later, sometimes never. learning the real life application of the technique is earnt through correct demonstration of the traditional technique. i dont think any teacher advocates students getting into real fights. but ill admit a younger less wiser me did a few times and what I learnt about martial arts of those few minutes could have been missed had It never happened.

+Michael Chambers absolutely right kung fu guy defense has too many step and also look more like it focus on it artistic side more than on the defensive side lol.karate defense is lot betetr as most defense is either only 1 step or mostly 2steps

You mean you didn't switch off after the rising front kick. You MIGHT pass red belt with a kick like that in our Dojo, but then again you might not! Warm regards...

+Portabledexter I'm sure in your Dojo every kick, every time is perfect, right? Film it and post it them. Mouth.

YES! We will have a whole sparring series coming up!

TehSkalias Sparring? Put some gloves on a go at it. You will soon see what works and what doesn't.

@@RealKungFu is your sparring videos ever gonna come out or you are too busy making onlyfans for your chick ?😂😂😂😂

Thank you so much Sir Awesomeville! I love comments like this! :) Train hard and have fun! :)

Haha!!! Thanks BattleNoa! "Tsuki"!!! :)

white people list Kung fu styles: -Aligator -cat -mouse -fish -bear -iron fist -mantis -crane -crouching tiger karate style: -hi ya -chop -scream out loud as you can -kick ass -black belt -chuck norris

TheJofrica I would be mad, but that was funny as fuck😂

THE PHANDOM IS EVERYWHERE

Thank you Colin!

I agree on everything! Also, I noticed that the community on this channel is one of the most comprehensive of martial arts and the less toxic one I found on RU-vid. Usually the comments in martial arts videos are filled with "dat don works in realz life bro!!1 u SUX! U dont evun do mma FAG!" but on his channel it's pretty rare :)

+Maxime Filion The guy deletes comments that are critical of his made-up styles...so most of the comments you see are glowing and telling him how awesome he is.

I agree

I totally agree with you about using the ball of the feet when you do the Mae geri. However he's wearing shoes so he cannot using the ball of the feet. Therefore he uses his instep to go for opponent's chin or his heel to go for the body. I guess

+EdDy4RheelZ are you special?

+Kokainuser Did you read the part where I said majority? Yes, there r few good kung fu styles too like Sanshou/Sanda, n Shuai Jiao n practiced by few good or decent fighters like Cung Le. For karate, its mostly kyokushin n their offsprings, such as seido kaikan, seido juku, etc that proved karates effectiveness. Gsp, andy hug, machida, uriah hall all have trained karate. But guess what? Theyre effective styles of karate, not bullshit like shorinryu, wado ryu, goju ryu, etc.

+Kokainuser no, not true. That is true for karate though. And the same goes for muay thai and boxing. You never saw a real kung fu fight, have you?

***** Hey buddy!

What's happening, Gokulnfintysaiyan!

AWARHERO Everything is wrong in all of his videos. Why do you even try !?

AWARHERO there's so many different styles of karte buddy

Being myself a 2nd degree Shotokan black belt and having trained in Japan... I do know that there is a lot of "different" style of Kara-te. All deriving from the same original art. What i see here is simply wrong technically.

You are joking... right?? I mean IF you were serious in your comment, i must assume you never seen REAL Shotokan karate before. May i suggest NEVER try to fight against a Shotokan Black belt for fun to prove your point. Shotokan is a ONE strike combat style. Not for demonstration at all.

@Mitchell Cidade: Yes, there are a lot of different styles but bad technique transcend styles.

Hello to you in England!!! :)

+leusgs I'd even go as far as to say that it looked a bit like a mae ashi geri, given that it was his front foot kicking. Then again I don't have that much experience with karate but with jujutsu. We kick with the back leg for the mae geri. Perhaps it's different in karate?

Greg's Garage I'm a brown belt in kwanmukan- shotokan karate, and I agree. He's making a lot of errors, example he's leaning way too much.

Yes, there are many paths!

Bo Staff Good Idea!

Bo Staff Shortest video ever! Ninja faces off against Kung Fu man... Audience waits patiently. Kung Fu man falls over dead, victim of an earlier poisoning by his camera man, who was secretly a ninja the whole time. Remember, if you ever really see a ninja, then either you did not know it, or you died shortly thereafter. In which case you are not reading this, so you cannot argue.

+Bo Staff ninjutsu is not a fighting styel... ninja or shinobi did regular jujutsu or kobudo in general ;) no offence tho...

+Max Paspirgilis sorry but that's incorrect. they had they own style, different from samurai jujutsu and based on different principles of movement and tactics.

@BlackDiamond that is a wide sprat misinformation wich comes mostly from old legends, japanese ww2 propaganda and hollywood... all ninja where samurai or ashigaru and thus where traind in differend koryu styles. nijutsu is the art of spys, recon troops and assassins but not fighting...

Thanks for the feedback and complement SuperDwight!

No problem

Exactly. This is just as bad as aikido.

Sanshou is pretty good

Master Teddy I agree. Sanshou is legit.

Sanshou is just copying muy tai but adding throws. The techniques are more similar to muy tai than traditional kung fu, which should be the case because a muy tai guy would beat up someone who only knows kung fu. The Chinese govt probably realized how bad kung fu was in competition and started copying styles that work.

Just you dont see it in mma deosnt mean that it doesnt work. Especially if the person has never seen it before

BlackDiamond What he said ^^^ His side kick was a spinning back kick in one shot.

***** correct. Everything should at least be kyokushin style, or any other full contact based style.. We are talking about FIGHT sports, not aerobics, here right? Anyway I don't see how his technique could be considered proper in any style..

***** I'm not talking about full throttle, I'm talking about proper techniques that would actually have a practical effect in a fight, which is what martial arts are supposed to be about. Martial in this context means fight. Everything this guy does here will not happen like that in a real fight. It's a fantasy fight.

***** oh man where do I start.. First of all I'm pretty issue-free. I just comment and correct some mistakes and certain delusions that are very persistent in the world of martial arts. For example another one u you just stated; Kung Fu is in no way similar to traditional boxing. It was called Chinese boxing by the British in Hong Kong because boxing at the time was the only striking fight sport the British knew, but obviously it was different and hence CHINESE boxing and not just 'boxing'. My mind is so open I need to build a roof on it. It seems that you arm the one stuck on unrealistic dogmas. Also, you did it again. Your statement about what exists outside the octagon is a strawman, as I never commented on that. The choice is not between Kung Fu and the octagon, at best the choice posed here is between karate and Kung Fu and although that's not what I originally commented on, I did later explain that karate would then be the realistic choice because this style of Kung Fu displayed here is not realistic. To expand on that statement, only full contact kickboxing type styles of Kung Fu, like Sanda or San Shou for example, are realistic even just a little bit only. Your statement about 'tricks' lacks every nuance and is basically another noob dogma. I'm the end it is about the most practical system of techniques and the most practical experience. Kung Fu is usually nothing but tough acting ballet, and never have I seen any Kung Fu practitioner use Kung Fu effectively against any decently trained fighter. It teaches only very marginally effective strikes and kicks into the air, usually with form over effect, and no actual fighting skills beyond that. As for Kung Fu styles, pretty much only San Shou and wing chun do anything related to realistic full contact sparring and they are by design still extremely limited in terms of practicality. Conclusion is still the same.

***** lol sure I'm the complete idiot... I did give substantial arguments, you are the one that didn't. U just keep creating strawman fallacies and polarising the discussion, which is what is really not only childish but shows your total commitment to childish and uninformed dogmas. I've given mature and realistic arguments, moreover my arguments come from a lifetime of practical experience whereas yours clearly come from your ass. Anyway, you have now shifted the discussion to ad hominems, another fallacy of which you're apparently unaware that it only makes u look uninformed, unintelligent and immature. Not only that but you are now stating total misconceptions like Kung Fu being similar to traditional boxing. Are you aware that any one with any knowledge of boxing will now dismiss you as a total fool? Also, again you come up with a self imagined conclusion about my persona. I never said anything about MMA or my opinion about it. Didn't even mention it. Yet u conclude something about me all by yourself in your own fantasy. Also you state that I'll ''come across the wrong person and be humbled ''. Lol seriously? You don't know anything about me dude. Besides that, neither this video nor the general discussion was about me so I'll take your frustration and attempts at insult as an admittance of your lack of knowledge and arguments. I wasn't even set out to make u look like a fool but u not-so-gracefully took it upon yourself to prove it to everybody and take away all doubt. That's quite amusing especially considering you call yourself 'zenmaster'. So I guess you don't even know what that is all about either. :) thanks for being entertaining, as in, you know, like a clown. Since u make it so clear you don't have any insightful comments or arguments but only immature fallacies, this discussion is over and you can go back to your homework.

donald palmer Oh big time!

Those kung fu moves would not have a lot of practical value at all, because they aren't even kung fu moves. They're vaguely similar, but it looks very much like he saw the moves once, imitated them, and filled in all the conceptual blanks on how to use it on his own.

Mae geri with the upper part of the foot, Yoko geri without proper hip control and tsuki almost falling... he could at least call Jesse to try one of these things, his form is flawless

+Son Goku I've found the opposite. Then again there is such a thing as being too free flowing. Look up "drunken boxing".

+Frample Tromwibbler karate get hard on moment of impact so we are pretty relax in a fight lol cuz the more relax you are the better your technique will be

opposite????? i can not remember that karate has internal training.

relaxing is in all martial arts important.

Kyokushin is the superior form of karate.

mike tags Against this guy? Definitely. Depends on the style of kung fu though. Shotokan (from what I've seen) seems territorial, however if you fought someone who does wing chun, it may make it more difficult to win.

mike tags It depends on the Kung Fu style, I train Kung Fu Fei In, and on the 1st training our teacher told the new students: "Do not expect to become fighters fast. A karate guy who has trained 2 years of karate would defeat a Kung Fu Fei In guy who has spent 2 yrs training that style. But, Karate is a lot more limited(I trained Shotokan, it is full of bullshit now that I know some real fighting moves), and after another year or two, the karate guy's improvement will have slowed a lot, and urs will be going even faster. You need to train years to become fighters and I wont give up on you." Fei In basically means flying eagle and has everything in it. And the more I learn from it the deeper it gets, and my imagination becomes better and better, I can recreate fights in my head like never before due to the moves I have learned. Although I havent trained for 3 months because my leg got operated I still want to train it and study it.

mike tags I have 9 kyu in Shotokan, I agree. :) sorry the front kick esp was leg not tucked under rear to start with and hight level of head up and down movement and body motion moving back. Punches need to be more tucked in and rolled out loose then clench only on final. I think this video is some good help for basics ideas, but the basics here are not of Japan. Waltham abbey JKA Club UK basics 99% of the work in training even by made by Sensei each time it has to be correct or you cannot progress. I have not trained in 15 years and I remember what it is to make 9th Kyu for JKA 2 to 3 years training. 5+ times black belts at club will train basics for weeks or the complete time in their career it is not forgotten for anyone at any time. Good luck. Yes Shotokan is best effective.

mike tags Shotokan does not have San Chin kata. That is my sole reason for not liking it. Therefore DEATH TO SHOTOKAN! Also, learn about San Chin Kata from Goju, Isshin, or Shorin Ryu karate. Totally badass, and it will step up your game.

It's not about the martial art it's about the martial artist like someone said.

I do not agree. Shaolin king fu I's considered one of the best.

+Calebe Lino It's Karate. Mae Geri is a blow of karate

finnaly some who knows some kerate why did he say chodan when he punched to the smomach

Exactly. Thank you.

That's karate.

It’s karate, kick boxing isn’t that civilised.

+Zenmaster Jared True. But non of them are so good as a delicious Biscuit.

Uranium_Roc you've been watching too much hong Kong cinema...

Nice! I love the Tonfa!

Xie Xie Wolfgang!

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace nice Chinese But perhaps Wolfgang doesn't know it means thank you....

Thanks Joel - We will!