He definitely had depression that's why I related with him and liked him so much when I was a teenager. At least one major suicide attempt before the real one. But conspiracy theorists always have to chime in. I wish anyone with a chronic condition all the best and hope they find ways to lessen the pain.
Detective J I’ve been dealing with a stomach ailment for about a month now. I’ll tell you one thing, I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I have a history of mental illness and just when it started getting better and I stopped smoking I get hit with this. My grades are plummeting, my family doesn’t believe me, I haven’t eaten well since this started. I don’t know what to do.
Detective J Thanks for the reply. So id say I’ve always had a poor stomach but especially the past 3 years. However, that was pretty mild to moderate. This past month has been very severe. I constantly feel like I’m being stabbed in the stomach. Every so often I get very bad nausea. Constipation. Loss of appetite. It’s been bad. I’ve gotten this medicine that has done jack shit. I’m going to the doctor again tomorrow.
Chronic pain is so hard to explain . If you have it , you know what I mean . You reach a point where you will try anything that might help ... just to make it stop for awhile . So sad to hear him talk about it . Rest peacefully Kurt .Peace from NB , Canada
Up. To all of You. Trust me or not, drink the most pure coconut milk like about 5 dl per day, spread in the whole day, for at least 7 days. And avoid, really, cow milk, gluten and white sugar the most as you can. And thank me, I hope, later. I've suffered from it almost 6 years, deeply, after a FUCKING PTSD, and I write this after this 1 week of try. Hope that you'll write me a good new soon. Much love. Here to live. Not to leave.
Ibhave this the only thing that helped is a low dose anti Depresents Endep Took me 10yrs to get in diagnoses As functional gut disease. Brain to gut issord caused by stress
I don’t agree with Kurts drug use but it is understandable.He was forced to suffer constant stomach pains and his doctors wouldn’t give him anything for it up until 1993.Kurt was stuck with a tuff choice.If he didn’t use heroin he wouldn’t have become addicted but then he would have been in chronic pain.It was almost like he was forced into drug use.It’s a tragic example of what some people will do to escape chronic pain.
it was heroin he was using to treat it since nothing else helped him anymore. He says the doctors were a scam and they didn't even find out what he had specifically
4:20 Yeahhh now the 'Courtney killed Kurt' crowd can stfu, he had a lot of issues and he admitted multiple times he felt suicidal on the radio. It's also apparent in his music (I Hate Myself And I Want To Die). RIP Kurt
Rip kurt I understand your pain brother and can relate to you and your music so much. You were and are the best at what you did. You will never be forgotten and your music will live on forever.
I’ve been so worried ab this for a while and seeing this and everyone’s comments really helps me know that I’m not alone with this pain I have to deal with.
I ALWAYS tell people IBS is ALL mental health. A calm mind is a calm gut! Try taking an SSRI and see if it helps. I take Paxil and it finally calmed my mind which in turn calmed my gut. How are you feeling today?
Oh God, I feel horrific for him. I have IBS and I know exactly what he is talking about the pain is real, I’ve had 4 kids naturally, no pain meds and this pain is comparable at times. It truly makes you wanna die, thankfully I was FINALLY put on nortriptyline! Literally saved my life! I know what he means when he said people get tired of hearing you complain about it, just go about your day wanting to die, makes you tough! ☹️poor thing
Up. To all of You. Trust me or not, drink the most pure coconut milk like about 5 dl per day, spread in the whole day, for at least 7 days. And avoid, really, cow milk, gluten and white sugar the most as you can. And thank me, I hope, later. I've suffered from it almost 6 years, deeply, after a FUCKING PTSD, and I write this after this 1 week of try. Hope that you'll write me a good new soon. Much love. Here to live. Not to leave.
@@harrisonwilbanks2380 well , after years of taking this devil drug I take back what I said. It’s horrible. Just quit last month after gaining 37 pounds... what do you suggest?
A red irritation in his stomach would suggest he had gastritis as well as some type of peptic ulcer, on top of his IBS which I also suffer with, all three, as a matter of fact and it makes me feel incredibly suicidal. Doctors 20 years on after Kurts death still can’t identify the actual cause of IBS and still can’t treat it. I agree with him 100% when he calls the Gastro doctors “a scam” cause they don’t know what they are doing! 😂
He's definitely right on doctors being a scam. Doctors perscribe to get rich. Now few good doctors still exist u know the one's that are actually concerned
They are not a scam. The reality is modern medicine is limited, but he is right that some pretend they know or aren't straight with you that they don't have an answer. One doctor was straight with me, and I appreciated that. He didn't have a real answer, and that's frustrating, but I hate it when doctors act all arrogant and can't do much for you.
@@younghirsch In South Korea, where I live doctors, actually take the time to talk to you and find out what they can do, but in terms of gastroenterologists, they still don't really have answers in many cases no matter where they live.
ima believer he was more than just the music man. the only person i felt a connection too like his words were my thoughts and he was the first and only i heard speak with the same soul amd heart as mine. i looked up to him like a older brother.
E J Gallo All part of the plan. They got people running themselves into the ground, crazy work & life balanced living. More people than ever before are now taking meds, not all of which are actually doing much good, but it’s serious serious profits for pharmaceuticals.
@Don't Subscribe Eating is also almost completely impossible. I literally lost so much weight in a matter of months that i went from slightly overweight to underweight sick looking person cause i couldnt eat almost at all. Thats also the period where i get heavy into benzos and weed etc... So i can relate to what Kurt is saying cause the pain would really go away when you are high.
I remember the having the same symptoms on September 29, 2023. Luckily, with the massive doses of vitamin c, and ginger tea, the pain and the stomach problems went away within 2 days. The difference is that this happened during the early hours of that fateful morning.
@@aleksastamenkovic5526 yeah benzo addiction is dangerous, alongside alcohol it's one of the only drugs that can kill you from withdrawal. the weed sounds bad if it was heavy use but i wonder if you think that casual use is unhealthy? i definitely think that people overstate the benefits of weed but i don't think it's that bad every now and again. also hope you're doing better now
Hey Caroline - those 3 can be a challenge because they're a bit of a vicious circle! Know that you're not alone and that it's entirely possible to recover though! On my channel I specifically help people with IBS start to recover from an eastern perspective (i had it too but it's been gone for years)!
I have it too ..I have anxiety disorder , depression and IBS C and the shit backed up for days until I get hammeroids...I am not able to maintain a proper job too.Dont care about anything anymore. You are not alone my dear.A virtual hug from me.
I totally agree when Kurt says that "most GI doctors don't know anything about stomach diseases". I've been suffering from Eosinophilic Enteritis for 5 years and doctors in my country have absolutely no idea how to treat this horrible disease. The pain is the worst part ... It completely destroys your mental stability :'(
Kurt didn't suffer from IBS, he suffered from anxiety, depression, OCD issues which manifests as stomach pain because of how connected your gut and brains are. That's why the drugs fixed his problems.
@@thehellsmeister2977 yep! I know this from personal experience and it took me years to figure it out and I myself was also addicted to opiates (clean 17 years now). I only wish Kurt would have figured it out sooner. His throat issues could have been connected too, the stomach issues cause acid reflux which would keep his throat raw and inflamed and then when he sang the way he did it would become even worse. If he had found a solution to the stomach issues his throat may have been better too, although still would have been sore from his singing style.
I wish more people understood what its like to live with a disease this debilitating and isolating and depressing. Pain is a really hard thing to wake up to daily and I so feel him on this
Yeah, people can't understand why you're not so social, why don't you just go to another useless doctor. Can't tell you how many doctors I've been to. I am doing everything to fight H Pylori. I also feel like Kurt. I don't care if I'm alive. I didn't choose to be born and deal with this for so long.
I'm on a 10yr roll of stomach pain that wakes me up at 1am every mourning,,doctors waste of time,,understand the struggle ,I never get a day off,,,but I'm to stubborn and got to far to die now,,hope your still going too
@@sarmcg52 you might want to keep trying doctors, it's probably not ibs if it regularly wakes you up, it could be something more treatable. Either way, good luck
Everyday is a struggle. Last thing that comes to your mind in bed before you sleep (that is, when you are able to sleep): "hope I dont wake up tomorrow so I dont have to go through a whole day of suffering." Then you wake up next morning, and all the misery and pain returns.
@@avatarjosie Crohn's is rough. Make sure to rule out Celiac disease since it's manageable with a change of diet. They can test for it while they're in there checking out your ileum and what not. Whatever it is, I hope you feel better.
He suffered from a real PHYSICAL pain, no doubt. I want to pull my hair out when people pat you on the back and say its anxiety or depression. May he rest in peace. I'm so sorry Kurt.
I have this problem for the last 8 years. It's like a burning rotten feeling like you ate bad food and it doesn't go away. I tried changing my diet. Less gluten helped very little. Only thing that finally worked was kratom. I still get it, but very rarely like once every week or two. I used to get it everyday.
I feel his struggle. Got UC and it's quite honestly a living hell. Went from working out 5 to 6 days a week to doubling over in pain walking across the block
The interviewer in the first clip was not listening. He asks him the same question he already answered. He had so many good questions he could of asked in regards to his stomach. Makes me mad some interviewers are so simple and DONT LISTEN
A few years ago I suffered from intense and relentless sciatic pain from a pinched nerve between a herniated disc in my spine. The only way I could sleep was with heavy pain killers which would make be nauseated. So my choice was back pain or feeling sick to my stomach. When you are experiencing unrelenting pain like that for weeks on end it fucks with your mind. You become depressed, then angry. I can see how someone experiencing that for years might become suicidal. Luckily my back issues eventually got better through self care. I can totally empathize with someone dealing with pain issues.
Hope you're doing alright man. I know exactly what you're going through. Been dealing with it for 9 years come this summer. Keep fighting the good fight as long as you can
Robert Flanagan fuck ibs!! Dude please don’t say “on my way there”! Just stay alive I have ibs too, I have it since 5 years it literally fucked up my whole life, all the people I know left me! But I don’t care cause I’m already suffering with this shit, listen I’m not a strong girl, I cry myself to sleep and I cry like every fucking single day because of it! So if you’ll ever read my comment I hope you stay alive! I’ll be here for you if you need someone to talk to! Just don’t do anything that hurt you cause I know how it feels to have ibs 💔:(
I know how you feel. I have had chronic stomach pain for 3 years and have thought MANY times about blowing my brains out. Try to hang in there though. At least as long as you can
Been having this issue since 9th grade so bad to the point I had to leave school I remember I was outside always with my friends to being in my room all day can't even go out without having stomach pains so I'm there sitting in their restroom for 30 mins I'm 21 now and I still have this problem ever since It started happening i been wanting to off myself..
you know your chronic pain is a huge issues once you just give up on everything, just so you can feel better for a little bit. it’s a relentless cycle. i’m probably gonna take the easy way out here soon, but if you’re reading this keep fighting i guess or whatever am expert would say
I feel your pain brotha 😰 I hope your still here. It’s not fair what your being made to suffer through along with others, like me. Love you bro. Please keep fighting! ❤❤❤❤
The sad thing is I’m 99% certain that the “drugs“ he talked about that fixed it were not the prescription kind, or at least not in the traditional sense. Candida/IBS issues are a vicious cycle between brain and body so I can imagine something like heroin would be one of the few things that could break the cycle and appear to provide temporary relief.
I think based on everything I've read - and I'm just one millenial who was only 1 when Kurt died - it seems like Kurt's stomach issues could have been related to Heroin withdrawal. Kurt started using heroin around the late 80s which is conveniently enough around the exact same time his stomach issues started to become debilitating. Stomach and GI issues can be related directly to withdrawals from opiates and I think this was just something he conjured up in his head to excuse his drug problem. He may have legitimately had IBS - but it's awful funny to me the timing of all of it, and I know stress can be a big factor there. Remember however that drugs are not a joke - if you're active in addiction please remember people love you and you can beat it if you want to. If you're in recovery or remission you are doing great work and I'm super proud of you. Be nice to yourselves.
I was admitted to the hospital for 2 months a couple of years ago due to awful stomach pain, they did lots of tests and found inflammation in my bowel and it was so so painful! I really feel for what he went through! They’ve given me morphine 3 times in the past as I managed to get to the hospital but just sat on the floor in tears. It’s awful ❤️
This hits so close to home its unreal. I'm not even a Nirvana fan but seeing him say those things is making me cry literal, physical tears. Insane how a guy that lived in a whole other place and time from me who I will never meet understands my problem better than my own friends and family. It fucking hurts I'm telling you. They deadass had to check me for cancer in the stomach when I was barely 13. Ten years later I still don't have cancer but the pain is still there and future looks more grim than not.
I feel like chronic pain changes your brain chemistry. I literally haven't been mentally the same since my chronic shoulder and gut problems 10 years ago
So sad to hear if you bothered to actually pay attention, you'd know that he didn't even have the stomach problem for a year before he killed himself. He had found the right medicine.
saddest part is that's not all he also has back pain because of guitar belts and also his voice in 1994 was almost gone in a concert (check heart shaped box munich 1994)
I suffer from this stomach problems...... it sucks, it's like an spiral of hell, the more you feel anxious the worst the stomach gets and vice-versa, they feed from each other. Doctors still don't know how to deal with me just call this bs "Stess Chronic Gastritis" and I can't eat shit, not even "healthy food". It's probably a problem in my nervous system but I hope it gets better someday
Did he have an actual stomach condition or is it from the opiates ? I mean being in withdrawal is exactly what he’s talking about . All of it from the torn up stomach to the intense cold/hot flashes . It feels like your entire body is dissolving and being broken down in the most painful way . Everything hurts . Your skin , your bones , your e entire body . And the insomnia and crippling depression and feeling of impending doom is the worst thing a person can ever feel . Rip kurt, I hope you’re finally out of pain .
I've been saying the same thing for years now, that doctors just call gastro issues "IBS" if none of their tests can diagnose anything. Weird to hear someone else complaining about it, I'm just used to myself 😂 I missed quite a bit of school due to stomach problems + depression/anxiety. It's so frustrating... Never finding the diagnosis but just being prescribed different meds to mask the pain. Sad that it's 28+ years later and nothing has changed about that.
I have IBS, which I think was just an easier diagnosis for them, and I know what it can do to your mental health. It’s frustrating and hard to live a normal life
It almost sounds like a functional medicine issue, based on what he said about it being a problem with his nervous system/psychosomatic. Diagnosis (Netflix) did an episode on a girl who has a similar problem. That girl most likely has a functional issue, meaning that there isn’t an external cause or disease for it-it’s a problem with the nervous system. Some doctors mistakenly explained it early on as being “in her head,” and that completely turned the patient and her parents off, as they thought she was being called crazy or a hypochondriac. Not at all. Her nervous system is probably triggering the vomiting, and may have never turned off that reflex after an initial stomach ailment. I had a functional medicine issue a couple of years ago after my throat was torn up a little from intubation during an upper GI. I sing, and my voice never stopped being hoarse after that, so I was pretty upset. When I was finally evaluated by the right person, I was told that my throat damage had already healed. They said it’s similar to someone who has a leg injury but doesn’t stop limping, even after they are healed. There is nothing crazy about the limper-it could happen to anyone, and even when the person fully knows there is nothing in the tissue or bone causing it, it still takes physical therapy to fix. If that was the problem, that would have made it even harder for him to get the appropriate treatment, because it’s hard to diagnose to begin with. And there is still a lot we don’t understand about the nervous system.
homorat I wonder the same thing I suffer from the same thing & Kurt explains everything well. I had a gastroscopy too & only mild gastritis was the outcome. My attacks feel anything but mild. I feel like I will live forever with this and it scares me
I have this thing called SIBO and I also have bile reflux because my pylorus doesn't work, and bile backs up, not only in my stomach but sometimes it burns my throat. I have been sleeping sitting up for about 3 years and I have seen at least 4 gastrointerologists and none have helped me at all. It's fucking hell on earth
I have Barrett’s esophagus. It will be esophageal cancer at some point… The pain is unbearable, I’m typing this while dry heaving blood. I also got into opioids really bad hut I’m on the methadone program now
I feel bad for him. I had some stomach pain too and I recently went to the doctor for it. They can't really say what it is. They just have a certain term for it. But can give medicine that barely helps me. And Him being force to eat and I feel that. I was forcing myself to eat to feel better but for whatever reason my stomach just can't digest it right it just fucks me up more. I don't really blame him for having distrust to the doctor's cause I felt the same way cause I know they don't care for me either. RIP KURT.
Hi guys, If you are interested, please, google old book named Specific Carbohydrate Diet by nice lady Elaine Gottschall. I wonder how it can be that it helped so many people, but still did not earn so much publicity, as it would deserve. I wish you to get well soon.
I had IBS /IBD starting in 1990 until 1997 and remember all the trips to the doctors and E/R explaining my condition with doctors looking at me like I had two heads when I would explain alternating bouts of constipation and diarrhea. I finally got a diagnosis of ulcerative proctitus , but just at that moment in time I had licked it by spending 5k in herbs over the course of 2 years with an herbalist. Looking back with what I know now, I firmly believe this is an issue of not having the right gut bacteria due to too much starchy diet. Of course not everyone that has a starchy diet will develop IBS, but I do believe it’s bacterial in nature. Fasting on protein shakes for months along with vitamin D supplements I firmly believe will go a long way to curing people, and then consuming your own home made fermented vegetables, and of course cutting out a great deal of carbs for good
What he describes sounds a lot loke ARFID a new eating disorder unknow at that time. When you want to eat but you can’t just like he described. His childhood and strained relationship with his parents explain a lot of this.
Wow I never knew this shit I had no clue about his stomach! Obviously that was all prices put together to acuse him of suicide I hate saying it but it feels like it
What he says resonates. Since I have gotten a hold on my mental health issues (general anxiety disorder, in particular), my "IBS" issues have almost entirely depleted. When I am having a rough time with my anxiety, my IBS creeps back up again. There is a pattern here and a lot of studies have shown this. From my own experience, I suspect his underlying mental health issues caused the stomach problems, not the other way around.
it goes both ways, like eat sleep workout on a consistent schedule & you'll be fine. when you can't do that bc you're homeless living between hotels or on tour like he was, sensitive types will get sick. bad relationships with terrible people will also make u physically sick no doubt.
My fiancee had stomach issues her whole life until she went to a doctor of Functional Medicine . She also has depression. The depression and stomach issue seem somehow connected (inflammation) but it's a complicated subject.
I agree. While I am sad he is gone I have the same thing he had and NO ONE should have to deal with this. To be honest some days are so bad I think about doing what he did to
his pain was really bad. it was sad how many procedures he had and how many doctors he saw who couldn't help him. I have pain too. the pain never goes away, and no one can fix it. it is making me miserable. I understand how Kurt felt
Funny that people are still viewing this. Saw you post your comment just yesterday. I'm here because I have a gastro dr appt in an hour. I remembered hearing about his stomach issues after he committed suicide. I've always had digestive issues because of a birth defect with my esophagus being connected to my lungs instead of my stomach when I was born and they did emergency surgery at 7 hours old but for the last month, I've been saying that I really understand Kurt's problem and pain more than ever. Mine has made me want to really give up most recently and 60 years later, but I'm hoping dr will help me today. It's weird though, in this video he's saying his sickness had been better or in remission for a year. I guess he took his life for another reason after all, maybe depression or the inability to get off of heroin. Truly hope he is resting in peace now.
@@seniorreseller I feel you brotha, I also suffer tremendously from a stomach affliction. I am praying for you, that your appointment Goes well. And you get some answers/ help.
@seniorreseller most likely heroin and depression just from trying to treat his gastrointestinal issues with heroin. I think you'll be fine as long as you're not a heroin addict. I've been diagnosed with one of the rarest liver disorders in the world and I don't think in my life I would ever come to hate doctors for being ignorant about everything and only wanting money for procedures that check nothing about my liver. They want to take out my perfectly fine gallbladder but are ignoring my completely mutated liver disorder giving me jaundice and stomach pain every day. I'm only 20 and I hope it's over soon
@Ovy Licker Perhaps you have a different kind of IBS than I do because antibiotics is the only thing that helps. I still have IBS but without the antibiotics I would have blown my brains out long ago. If you haven't looked into it yet look up H Pylori and the effects it has on your gut. That may be what you have and doctors missed it
I thought they called it Witch’s Stomach. Some sort of irritation of the stomach lining caused by a virus or bacteria or a bad diet and stress or both! And smoking can’t be ruled out either because it causes irritation. The cause was unknown but he could not keep a meal down. He kept throwing up even when his stomach was empty. Quite a nasty disorder and unpleasant affliction.
I totally agree with him that so many doctors havent got a cunting clue about virtually anything. I have had a different chronic condition for 20 years and after 10 i just gave up on doctors. I refuse to see them now.
@@rebeccaspratling2865 yeah, i read a comment that he was eating very poorly. A lady told at my work that if she keeps eating gluten that she'll get cancer.
@@te9591 Yea gluten makes my father violently I'll. He literally bleeds out his rectum if he consumes it. Some people are allergic or intolerant to it.
i’m having bad stomach pains, the doctor says it’s ibs and gave me powder to drink and it doesn’t work for me. it’s been almost 2 years and i’m still dealing with this .. it makes me feel crazy ... i cant eat bc i get so full after one bite... my stomach is so bloated and it’s hard to catch my breath sometimes and i can feel a strong pulse in my stomach ... the doctor said it could also be anxiety so they prescribed me medicine for my anxiety as well. it’s so annoying i just want to feel better .. if it’s not one thing it’s another it SUCKS.. :( nothing works.
Stress is terrible on the stomach eventually! Just wanted to throw this out there. Along with your meds or in my case, proton pump inhibitors I would recommend to Anyone who has stomach issues,try REAL local Honey. Make sure it's the real stuff. It has worked wonders with myself,and by all means relax and enjoy life.🙏
Unusual timing as I just got medication for mental health support as my IBS-C definitely fucks with your head. Love to all those dealing with the malfunctioning guts.
I don't know if he's using stomach and bowel interchangeably here. Sulfasalazine if he had crohns could be effective treatment even back then, it's not new. It can calm the lining from your rectum to your mouth. I don't know if he had a colonoscopy for diagnosis. H pylori bacteria if he's talking about his stomach. Alcohol and smoking would have been no no's. Touring, right, you'd curtail. Maybe if he lived in the Midwest he'd have found a good doctor. Record company should have hospitalized him for drugs and gastrointestinal issues. All this aside the wife would have driven me nuts. What ? At the end he says, finally, " I haven't had any pain since I started doing drugs. " 😕😟 Here we are trying to arrive at nice medical reasons for your pain.
The doctors even 20 years later still don't know that much. And this was a guy who was rich and could afford the best doctors. Now, it's better in the sense that there are functional doctors that often regular people can't afford.
That's they way I felt when I had 3 inflamed ulcers the pain was so bad your crying if you ate or did anything. I was in the hospital for a week on morphine. Very good but addictive. I was on like on 5 different medicines. Stomach problems are very tricky till this day.
For anyone struggling with IBS, first thing to treat is mental health, but it helps to avoid coffee and alcohol, Include pre and probiotics, and avoid food that causes inflammation
Chronic gastritis feels like knives stabbing your gut and everything you eat irritates it, the only way to ease out the pain is staying away from greasy and acidic foods. I've been to multiple doctors and they said it's just red and inflamed but don't have a way to fix it, just prescribed anti-acid medication. There isn't a solution, your stomach repairs overtime. Or have some fresh celery juice and bone broth...
I couldn’t agree more with Kurt about what he says about GI doctors. I was diagnosed with gastritis, hiatal hernia, and ibs in 2014. The pain was horrible. The GI specialist honestly just put a bandaid on the problem. Functional medicine actually finds ways to cure or reverse symptoms. I know that I later found out last year that the ibs was sibo. A lot of times doctors just diagnose ibs because they honestly don’t know the problem. I commend him for dealing with that in the late 80s to early 90s. It sure would be nice if GI problems would start getting cured for a change.
