Author Kurt Vonnegut talks about short fiction, his disinterest in writing, and his distrust of computers. Join us on Patreon! / manufacturingintellect Donate Crypto! commerce.coinbase.com/checkou... Share this video!
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The fact that Kurt was able to sit there and not get annoyed with the stupid arrogant demeaning questions charlie threw at him is a testament to his good nature
Seemed good natured to me, I assume they had a conversation before this one to build a rapport. This is just how men talk with him half jokingly accosting him. "Oh what the big smart man can't write any more books?" What are you to old and retarded?" (im paraphrasing obviously) This is a friend being sarcastic trying to push him for a deeper answer. He obviously respects him enough to be familiar with him and I think Kurt enjoyed himself.
An oddly aggressive interview technique (more suited to attempting to pin down a politician I thought) but completely disarmed by Vonnegut with his calm, reasoned responses and superior intelligence. I particularly liked the light, quiet responses to the fact that the interviewer missed a few points because he wasn’t paying full attention to the answers. “ A good point, there.” “Yes well I’ve tried to make several” different class.
I like this one it's not on the video but talk about prophetic: "True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country"
Vonnegut was one of the first “real” authors I ever read. I was a huge comic book fan and he was a great writer to help me transition to the “big time.” Little did I realize how his little Sci-fi books would be some of the best books I ever read. My eighth grade teacher, Mr. Ellis, is gone now but I will always remember the great gift he bestowed upon me for introducing Mr. Vonnegut to me.
He never really wrote a single piece of straight sci-fi. His most sci-fi book (other than TIMEQUAKE, a quasi-novel at best) was probably SLAUGHTERHOUSE-FIVE, and it falls much more naturally into the bucket of mainstream literary fiction than that of sci-fi (IMHO, anyway).
He's such a phony. Makes me cringe. How someone like him got passed off as authentic, no wonder people would rather sit on their phones rather than listen to our televisions idea of "authentic." 🤣
and here we are, using our computers in our rooms so that we might study and grow and become by watching kurt vonnegut tell us that computers in our rooms will stifle our ability to grow and become
Humm, did you grow? You just listened to a piece of information. The growing part is when you use that new found info. Which you did not and proved his point. Instead you created a little circular logic comment that that seems to prove something but actually says nothing new.
@@ANobodiemyspace Well said. I was thinking that nearly but have had too much wine. I watch this stuff when my brain is tired, but to grow I read, think, write, read, think ...
creativity doesn't happen in a vacuum. Kurt was human and sometimes *gasp* WRONG. Info tech and all its accessories and devices is a s useful or destructive as YOU utilize it. Like fire.....
@@rachellandry3116 thanks for commenting! i never would have imagined i would have the opportunity to engage with a snarky offhand joke i made 3 years ago. it also gave me the opportunity to watch the interview again which was as insightful as always. i think i broadly agree with rachel in that information technology is a tool, but oh boy does it give us the opportunity to delude ourselves into thinking we're doing something. i knew this three years ago when i wrote that original comment as that was probably in one of my most severe periods of social media overuse sadness. i'm in therapy now, which is deeply helpful, and i recommend it for everyone who knows they're using the computer/phone too much but can't seem to stop for whatever reason. i've had bouts of trying to become a hermit and a luddite, but at the end of the day computers and the social internet (chat apps and youtube in particular) are too important a piece of my professional, creative, and social life to ignore completely. deliberate use is difficult on a platform whose primary aim is to game your attention and reward system, especially when that platform is designed by some of the book-smartest people on the planet, but there's no reason to go it alone if you don't have to.
Kurt rolled with life, we tend to ignore that at any given moment all can be taken away from us- victim of a robbery, car accident, finances, a lover turned cold, etc And most of us are either too damn arrogant ( make that - stupid) to see this. Slaughterhouse Five illuminated that for me. Kurt survived the Dresden bombing, my father fought against the Nazis: now they wear polo shirts and khakis brandishing tiki torches from Home Depot: a more 'refined / modern ' form then simple pitch forks and axes, eh? Folks you just gotta laugh, it really is a divine comedy Anyway, I love this man and wished that he was my uncle who sat with me under that Apple tree and exclaimed: " now If this isn't a good moment then I don't really know.." And so it goes Thank you Kurt..peace
Sirens of Titan was one of the first REAL twentieth century novels I ever read. And I was hooked at 16 years old. Then over years I read all of the rest of them. He was one of the real ones. "We love you, Boaz."
He would throw up in your mouth to hear you use such a stupid, tired, boring-ass cliche to describe him. What's your address, so I can mail you a bag of nutty shit.
No, you didn't. You can't go from no reading to suddenly reading at an eighth grade level. You started with Jack and Jill like everyone else, dickhead.
Kube dog you are correct. I wasn’t clear. I did learn how to read with a first grade reader named Tip and Mitten, a primer about a dog and cat. The fact is I struggled with reading most of the way through school. All of grade school and high school was a struggle for me because of poor reading skills. But one summer when I was about thirteen the family television went on the fritz and all I had for entertainment was my older brothers paper back books. Thats when I read all of the James Bond novels, Mad magazine and a book of poems by Lawrence Ferlinghetti which helped me be a better reading. When I got out of the Navy in 1972, I began going to school on the G.I bill and managed to get a degree in secondary education, finally, in 1991. That summer is when I honed my reading skills enough to earn my degree. That experience helped me relate to kids that struggled just like I did. The question that I have for you is, why do you take such pleasure in trolling people on social media. That seems to me to be a bit of a pathology . These types of forums are rife people who have an obvious cruel streak. I think you need to examine yourself to better understand why you have this need.
Vonnegut repeats the same line from Melville about whalers not talking because they have nothing to say that he said in an interview with Rose in 1996. Charlie didn't seem to remember the line.
Besides being clearly suffering from amnesia, he did a lot of interviews in between to be fair, he did everybody (Filmmakers, writers,athletes,actors...). Check out his videos on youtube , it's fascinating.
Think about all the times in life we're just repeating the same phrases and thoughts, that quote actually speaks to that. Charlie Rose also seemed to be going through the motions this interview.
I love that line I worked 10 years as a commercial fisherman and conversation did fall silent because you'd said everything you'd wanted to say, everyone had,you knew what everyone was thinking and how'd they'd respond to every comment,topic,story, and it made just more sense to make eye contact and just giggle quietly
Back in the day before I became digital man with a high speed fiber optic connection, there were collections of paper called books. Some thick, some thin and some in between. Open the book, focus on the black marks and you were transported to a place infinitely far away, closer than at hand at warp speed faster than light! Anyway, Vonnegut's voice filled my mind, kept me entertained and thinking and laughing for less than five dollars. We are all in a state of becoming, endowed and empowered by the universal will to be. And so it goes.
This interviewer seems like he believes that he’s on the worst date of all time. Man, it really seemed like he was trying to douse Vonnegut’s lively fire. Tough to watch! Happy to see Kurt pushing through it though. What a great man.
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This broadcast is a relic of a time before television. If I had to guess with no context I would have said this was from 1979 at the latest. What the hell kind of camera was this recorded on?
Wow. Mr Vonnegut created a short story right in the middle of the interview. A story of the well intentioned, well versed, professor Sweetbread, who wanted Charlie to live in the same box as he. I bet you want to know what happened to Charlie? Me too.
Kelly Flynn this is surely the kindest way to have expressed this. I am impressed by your goodness. And, of course, Charlie Rose’s true colors have been shown now.
Telling Charlie Rose how to interview a guest is like attempting to show a bird how to fly. This man has been doing this for years and knows how to bring out the best in his 'guests.'
Joe M There are clearly different opinions about Rose’s interviewing skills & I believe that everyone is entitled to them. Given my opinion of how he conducted this interview, I could also see a similar arrogance in his insensitive & aggressive behavior with some of the women who worked for him. I have never particularly cared for his style of interviewing, albeit he has been doing it for a long time.
I understand that Vonnegut is funny and good natured (obviously), but I wish the questions would’ve been a little less about trying to get him to have quick-witted rebuttals. Charlie should’ve reeled it in a bit and shown a little more respect. But…who am I to say what’s right or not? It was a fun interview. I do like that Mr. Vonnegut pointed out that we are not in competition with so called “world champions”. “I’m out of stuff; I don’t have anything more to say.”
The utter gall of trying to shame Vonnegut for not writing "new stuff." When Vonnegut says he's out of shit to say, I believe him, have you seen his catalogue of work? Like Jesus, he was 76 at the time of this interview, give him a goddamn break.
when vonnegut starts firing back at 11:20, charlie rose gets burnt. vonnegut kept tryna say that he simply doesn't care to behave like a company, churning out stories endlessly till he's useless and thrown away. he wants to behave like a human, doing what he wants to live a content and kind life, and stories are just one of the ways to do that. and here's charlie rose trying to build him into a personality or brand for young people to admire. vonnegut simply doesn't care. he doesn't want to be treated like a product that can be manufactured in a factory and put to use. he wants to be treated as a person with failings and vulnerabilities and hopes that are somedays reached. if i just want to be heard, i'll republish old material which was also an important period of my life, and be done with it. who are you coming here to tell me i need to do more?
It’s just you, riding the coat tails of a movement you think will give you an opportunity to feel superior to those who have achieved more than you ever will
I’ve never understood how he is considered by some to be THE interviewer! It’s bizarre. The man is just terrible at his one job. He phoned everything in.
Did someone actually pay this interviewer? He is extremely rude, intellectually hollow and very frustrating to watch. Where's Michael Parkinson when you need him?
Not the best interview session... Vonnegut had to just drive right through it. No doubt lost some insights because of the lack of real, contextual preparation by Rose. "I don't get it!" Really? A shame.
I guess from my standpoint I assume that change in life is constant. 30 year old me will be different than 20 year old me. 50 year old me different than 40 year old me. And I figure that'll continue until I die. I guess I assume that my ideas will also change as time goes on. I haven't lived much life, but I would hope that things don't just become stagnate. I hope to continuously learn and grow. I suppose not everyone is like that however.
A real writer (not you) does have an infinite number of ideas. They come out slowly, though, like draining the ocean with a garden hose. You'd know that if you weren't so stupid.
@@Kube_Dog By that logic, everyone has an infinite number of ideas. Just because someone writes them down doesn't mean they have more than someone else. The point being made is to do with Vonnegut's apparent contentedness with his published body of work, and Rose's air of entitlement as though he thinks Vonnegut owed people to want to write more. Which he didn't.
@@djpb2 You don't listen, or you don't understand the metaphor. There are infinite ideas. We can tap them. The ideas trickle to us slowly, not all at once. And we can shut off the tap. Get that right, before you form an opinion about Rose and Vonnegut, because it's the essential context. Good luck, dummy.
