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LA-EA4r Monster Adapter vs LA EA5 

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This video compares the Sony LA-EA5 A-mount to E-mount adapter with the 3rd party modified LA-EA4 called the LA-EA4r or "Monster Adapter". Which one is better? More info, including where to buy the circuit board, can be found below.
IMPORTANT NOTE: I forgot to mention one of the caveats of the Monster adapter: It doesn't handle SSM or SAM lenses, whereas the LA-EA5 does (if you have the right body). Life is full of tough choices, isn't it?
The Monster adapter was originally mentioned in my blog post from 2020: friedmanarchiv...
Here's a video showing my first attempt at doing the upgrade: • LA-EA4 Monster Adapter... (No audio on this.)
Here's a video showing the early prototype vs. the A99 II: • Monster Adapter Near-F...
Here's a better test of the 500mm f/8 in good light using pre-production firmware: • LA-EA4 "Monster Adapte... This video has 3 tests; the first showing off Eye AF, the 2nd showing the lens on an A99 II for reference, and the 3rd showing a similar test on an A7R IV.
More early tests of Human and Animal Eye AF using pre-production firmware (the product is much more stable now): • Monster Adapter Eye AF...
Earlier videos explaining the differences between the LA-EA1 through LA-EA4: • The Sony A-mount to E-... And part 2: • The Sony A-mount to E-...
I will NOT be taking on the role of distributor, nor will I be offering the upgrade surgery service, however you can purchase the circuit board at www.monsteradapter.com .
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Will this adapter make my lenses focus faster than the LA-EA4?
A: Probably not.. The goal is to add new intelligent focusing modes that you can’t get with the LA-EA4. Do not expect increased speed to be the primary benefit.
Q: Will I be able to use SSM and SAM lenses on it?
A: [Updated March 2023] Yes, he is currently working on updating the firmware to handle an initial set of SSM lenses.
Q: I have a very popular 3rd party lens. Will it work on this adapter?
A: No.
Q: Will it work with video?
A: No. The designers are adamant that the focusing would not be smooth and this would call attention to itself in videos, and so it is intentionally not supported. Plus motor noise would be picked up by the camera’s built-in mics if you don’t use an external mic.
Q: Will it AF closed like native E-mount lenses?
A: No; it will meter and focus wide open just like all A-mount lenses.
Q: What if I attach a lens not on the ‘currently supported’ list?
A: It will be Manual Focus only.
Q: How are firmware updates done?
A: The same way you do for a lens or a normal adapter. Attach the adapter to a camera body, connect the camera to a computer via USB, and run some software.
Q: Will Xi lenses be supported?
A: Those lenses were not known for their optical excellence. And not many people have expressed interest. So currently it’s not on the ‘to be supported one day’ list.
Q: Will it work with the A7S II?
A: No - the camera it’s connected to has to have phase-detect AF points baked into the sensor. Neither the A7S II nor the original A7s have this - they are contrast-detect AF only.
Q: Will it work in conjunction with a matched 1.4x teleconverter?
A: That’s much harder to do in software; so while it won’t be initially supported that’s something that can be added down the line.
Q: Will the board swap also work with the LA-EA2?
A: No. The board shape and connector pinout are similar but different. If you try to install this board on an LA-EA2, it might burn the adapter.
Q: How about other Zeiss AF lenses?
A: Only two have the screw-driven AF. Both are supported.
Q: Is all the normal LA-EA information retained in EXIF metadata?
A: Yes. In all of my images taken with the adapter, the EXIF information shows the lens’s focal length and max. aperture.
Q: Will you be able to easily reinstall or remove the AF mirror in case you wanted to use other lenses not on the list - in current LA-EA4 mode?
A: You can restore the mirror if you want to, but if you want to go back to the old functionality, you’ll have to restore the original circuit board.
Q: Where can I find a list of currently supported lenses?
A: You can find that and other support questions on their facebook page: / monsteradapter-1102102...
Disclaimer: I get no financial reimbursement for my postings on this subject (although, let's face it, I should after putting in all this work. :-) ) They sent me the sample board, and that was it.
Discussed in this video: Sony A1, Minolta 100mm Macro lens, Minolta 80-200 f/2.8 G lens, Minolta 500mm f/8 mirror reflex lens.

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@rkdazet
@rkdazet 7 дней назад
Thank you, Gary! Personally I wish you had compared the LA-EA5 with the unmodified LA-EA4! Or the LA-EA4 compared with the LA-EA4r on an older body like the A7III. As I understand it, the main reason for the LA-EA4r is better focusing on older E mount bodies, other than the A1, A7rIV, A7IV and A7rV. If one owns one of these newer bodies, I don't see any reason to spend $200 on the Monster upgrade kit when the LA-EA5 currently only costs $25 more! Btw, it seems to me the LA-EA5 performed a bit better in your demo. I switched to the FE mount with the original A7 and at that time I purchased both the LA-EA3 and LA-EA4, the 3 for my SSM lenses and the 4 for my old MInolta screw drive lenses. Both worked just find with that camera. Of course the reality is that most newer E mount lenses are smaller, lighter and just focus better than my old A mount lenses. I wouldn't want to travel with my AF 70-200mm f2.8 SSM anymore. I'd rather just take my Tamron 28-200mm f2.8-5.6 Di III RXD!. My old Minolta 70-210 f4 with adapter? Maybe with the LA-EA5 on my A7rV? Don't know if that lens is up to snuff with the 61 Mp sensor.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 7 дней назад
I did lots of comparisons with the LA-EA4 and LA-EA4r in other videos. The upshot is that nothing performs better on an E-mount body than a native E-mount lens. Adapted A-mount lenses have various drawbacks - either fewer AF points, or slower/worse AF and object tracking.
@PolioVitruvius
@PolioVitruvius 3 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to show this! I have the A7R2, LA-EA4, and the Minolta 80-200 HS. LOVE the combo. Focuses VERY fast. I would not give up that AF speed for the additional focus area. I grew up with film and use center focus and then hold five us and reframe so not a problem.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
We must be the same age. :-) Yes, if you're doing things using 20th century techniques then it actually makes sense to stick with the original LA-EA4 for its native A-mount-like speed.
@stevesargent8731
@stevesargent8731 2 года назад
just got an A7IV and the LA-EA5 and while there may well be limitations in video (not tried that yet), the AF accuracy and speed with my old Sony/Minolta lenses is better than it was using my native A-mount cameras (Dynax 7 Digital, A100, A700, A55, A900, A77), the lenses I've tested so far are Minolta 24-105, Minolta 300 F4 G, Sony 70-300 G SSM, Sony 70-400 G SSM. Still got the rest of the collection to try but very pleased so far.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
I tried my A74 with the LA-EA5. SSM lenses would work with it; screw-drive lenses would not. (The A7R IV and LA-EA5 drives both types of lenses.)
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives Hi Gary, All my old screw drive lenses work great on my A74 with the LA-EA5. Maybe you need a firmware update?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
@@DavidTheHappenings I tried it again and now they work. Let's hear it for reliability and predictability in your tools.
@Galgomite
@Galgomite Год назад
Thanks for this video! Somebody just shared it one Twitter… I thought i was pretty much the only person who cared about this stuff. I will mention that i used to shoot video on an a7sii with a sigma 50-500 using the la-ea4 adapter (la-ea2 before it). there were numerous limitations but video is possible and i was pretty happy with it.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives Год назад
Glad you like it. I did two other youtube videos regarding the adapters...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mXsV3UJcwdw.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5FvusonVmmM.html . The big thing you need to understand is that when shooting video with the LA-EA4 you're constrained to f/3.5 if you want autofocus.
@Galgomite
@Galgomite Год назад
Yes, and 1/50 shutter if i remember right. But you can always focus, switch to manual and make changes.
@theottergames1969
@theottergames1969 3 года назад
I so happy that your Channel is still alive 😄, and great video always.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Thanks! The move has taken a toll on my spare time. :-(
@RealTechGeek
@RealTechGeek 3 года назад
That's your usually upload schedule anyway months apart normally. Love your videos keep up the great work. I hope you get settled in soon. It is total BS what Sony has done with that LAEA5!!!! Classic Sony Arrogance!
@actionphotopassion5082
@actionphotopassion5082 3 года назад
@@MrBazReviews The real issue is that nobody can understand/explain how come LAEA4R "can work" or sort of with bodies from mark II and in the meantime LAEA5 official is only restricted to the latest and expensiviest bodies only... It's kinda slap in da face for Sony :)
@MrBazReviews
@MrBazReviews 3 года назад
@@actionphotopassion5082 I think it's more a slap in the face for users! If this is the exit strategy for A mount - it's not a very useful one. I think they restricted the use of the adapters (for reasons unknown), the LAEA4 works on most (bar the A1) but it's dated 15 point AF whilst usable isn't really very appealing (I have one myself it's OK but nothing more). The monster shows that more could be done even with older bodies. Not sure why they hold it back, because plenty of Canon users adapting lenses. So there is nothing to be gained in limiting the adapters. I think it just annoys A mount users and probably isn't he best way to get them to buy into E mount. Just going forward I don't think the LAEA5 is going to be widespread support. If that's the case I'd wager some users will just give up on Sony entirely, can't say I blame them
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 3 года назад
The monster adapter is obviously by far slower but the benefit of gaining 1/3 or 2/3 stop of light and the multi point focusing with nearly all e-mount cameras is very important. The LA-EA5 was introduced in October 2020. The a7C was introduced a month before in September 2020 and the a7S III a little earlier in July 2020. Certainly both these cameras were developed alongside the LA-EA5 and they should be fully compatible. However not even the recent latest Sony ZV-E10 e-mount camera introduced in July 2021 is fully compatible with the LA-EA5. At least the flagship Sony a1 is compatible. It would be a shame if it wasn't. I believe that after one or two years, all new e-mount cameras will have advanced autofocus systems with full compatibility. I hoped that LA-EA5 would permit autofocus with official Sony a-mount teleconverters on Sony a-mount cameras but I was hoping for too much. Maybe a firmware update will change that. Finally according to many posts on the official monster adapter Facebook group, the camera should be always switched off when attaching or removing the adapter because cases of camera damage were reported. I personally for decades have the habit of removing the battery before changing lenses or adapters for 100% safety. Even with the camera switched off, some power may be used for writing the memory card or charging the internal clock battery, or some capacitors are charging etc.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Removing the battery to change lenses is a tad bit overkill - it's like removing the battery to plug in a USB cable. Sure, in the days of RS-232 it could cause spurious bit-error problems, but the lens mounts and USB interface were both designed to eliminate those problems. I agree that ti's a shame that only the A7R IV and A1 work with the LA-EA5.
@Jan-eh7nf
@Jan-eh7nf 2 года назад
LA-EA5 have been developed YEARS ago but never introduced to the public until Monster Adapter came out showing that it can be done. Obviously sony limited it to most expensive and overkill cameras for those lenses. Fuck you sony!
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
@@Jan-eh7nf LA-EA5 works perfectly fine with the not-most-expensive A74.
@AceP40
@AceP40 3 года назад
Thanks for doing this demonstration! For some reason I thought the 80-200mm didn't work on the LA-EA5.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
There were mixed reports early on. That's why I felt it was important to do this demonstration.
@actionphotopassion5082
@actionphotopassion5082 3 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives But isn't LAEA-5 supposed to be able to work with any Minolta AF screw driven lens ? I thought it was one of the main goal of this adapter.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
@@actionphotopassion5082 Most all. There are some exceptions (like the xi series of Minolta lenses).
@klwmsuable
@klwmsuable 2 года назад
It works with the 5 on the a7r4
@GeorgeStar
@GeorgeStar 4 месяца назад
Another alternative is adapting Canon EF lenses. My Commlite works quite well with my A7R II. I like it better than the LA-EA4. It's smaller, lighter, much cheaper and uses all the sensor AF points.
@mmhhlee99
@mmhhlee99 3 года назад
Nice! I was waiting for your review after LA-EA5 came out!
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
I've been pre-occupied with a move , the book on the A7S III, and the book on the A1. (And another move coming up!)
@Lofote
@Lofote 3 года назад
By the way, three (not two) Zeiss AF lenses are screwdriven, all three are now spported now :) SAL-1680Z SAL-85F14Z SAL-135F18Z
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Thanks for the correction!
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
SAL-85F14Z and SAL-135F18Z are the only two that are full frame. Not sure why anyone would want to use a crop mount lens on a full frame A1 or A7riv camera.
@Lofote
@Lofote 2 года назад
@@DavidTheHappenings The LA-EA adapters also work on crop sensor E-mount cameras.
@tomaltman9506
@tomaltman9506 2 года назад
I bought A7IV and LA-EA5. I have an A Mount, Screw drive, 135 Zeiss Sonnar lens. When I use these together, I see the focus point lock onto objects, but the focus does not change from one point to another. It remains out of focus. With my LA-EA4 it worked perfectly. I hoped to gain eye auto focus with the LA-EA5, but it does not focus at all. This is the second LA-EA5 I purchased. I sent the first back thinking I had a bad model. The LA-EA5 on my A7RIII does not see the lens at all, no aperture reading. I have searched the web and gone through every menu setting to see if I need to change a focus setting somewhere. I also searched to see if there is a firmware update for the A7IV. None. And I cannot find any firmware at all for the 135 Zeiss Alpha mount. I thought I would reach out to you since you know so much about these adapters.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
Well, first of all the LA-EA5 and that lens will NOT work with your A7R III. They WILL work with your A7 IV, including Eye AF and Eye AF tracking. I just tried it. So you probably have the camera improperly configured for what you want to do. Would now be a good time to mention I'm writing a book on the A7 IV which will explain to you what you need? :-) friedmanarchives.gumroad.com/l/XvMsA
@tomaltman9506
@tomaltman9506 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives The strange thing is the LA-EA4 worked fine, the LA-EA5 doesn't work at all. And this is the second one I bought.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
@@tomaltman9506 Please email me at Gary@FriedmanArchives.com .
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
@Tom Altman I have that combination A7iv + 135 f/1.8 and for me the eye AF works perfectly fine.
@fengshuischoolindonesia6161
@fengshuischoolindonesia6161 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Gary, you are wonderful
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 8 месяцев назад
I try. 🙂
@MrNe0phyte
@MrNe0phyte 2 года назад
Nice use of the case of Micheal David!
@actionphotopassion5082
@actionphotopassion5082 3 года назад
Thank you sir for this very insightful video and your efforts. I'm still amazed how they did the job with 500/8 reflex to unlock all the AF points. OTOH I'm not so enthusiast about the AF speed against LAEA-5 but probably with time it will catch up with LAEA-5. I mean it's a tough job they're accomplishing but, clearly it's impossible to do AF tracking with such AF speed. It reminds me an old Dynax 7D... For anything less AF demanding well it's ok.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
It's a tough challenge... I recall Minolta once released a customer survey when their autofocus cameras first came out, and one of the questions was, "Would you rather have your autofocus fast, or accurate?"
@Dao_Meng
@Dao_Meng 3 года назад
Subscribed! Thanks for the awesome videos about Sony cameras/lenses/adapters!
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
You're welcome. Tell the world! :-)
@alexeyA1
@alexeyA1 2 года назад
Very informative video about these adapters. Thank you!
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
You're very welcome!
@joelbatts8760
@joelbatts8760 2 года назад
Thank you Gary for another great and informative video. I have a quick question. Can I use the LA EA5 adapter on a7R II body for aperature control? I am not concern about AF with Minolta lens on the a7R II as long as I can change the aperature of the lens using the camera dial. I use MF for most of my photography anyway. Thank you again for your service to the Minolta community 😃
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
I just tried it. YES, it controls the aperture. So you're good!
@SlipstreamDigital
@SlipstreamDigital 2 года назад
The LA-EA5 also works with the Sony a9 and a9ii, not as the video states just "three bodies." I know since I own the A9 and my SAL300F28ii works great with the A9s
@BoxxyFan
@BoxxyFan 2 года назад
That lens is NOT a screw drive lens
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
Not for screw drive lenses.
@michaelcilenti8653
@michaelcilenti8653 11 месяцев назад
Can I ask what Ver firmware was used during the test, I'm not impressed with the stepping on the monster adapter at all. With Ver 8 firmware does anyone know if its smoother/faster in any way. Right now my 500 f/8 works not bad with the la-ea4. Thank You
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 11 месяцев назад
Don't remember; as this was a couple of years ago. I'll tell you that nothing will be faster than the LA-EA4; the only benefit to using the monster adapter is you can use advanced features like Eye AF / Subject recognition / tracking which you can't do with the official Sony adapters because they insist on using just the center focusing point with that particular lens. See my other test videos at friedmanarchives.blogspot.com/2021/05/my-last-post-about-monster-adapter-la.html
@J.Koenige
@J.Koenige 3 года назад
That is some awesome enginnering. Would be nice if the could develop same upgrade for the la-ea5, I think it would be possible. It is annoying that Sony dont do it by himself eventho the Hardware allows it, that is pretty sad
@EagerSnake
@EagerSnake 4 месяца назад
Great video, as ALWAYS, but, I have a question Gary: what do you mean the LAEA5 is only compatible with 3 bodies? I was reading Sony's website, and it says it's compatible with all the bodies they have, but with limitations. I'm looking to buy it for an old Minolta AF 70-300, and now I have my doubts hahaha.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 4 месяца назад
Regretfully, Sony's website (specifically support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=eu&lang=en&mdl=LA-EA5&cat=3&loc=en_GB ) is horribly misleading. They even list their oldest E-mount cameras like the NEX-3 as being "compatible", even though technically there's no phase detect AF in the sensor that would allow autofocus to work. The only camera bodies that will work properly are the A6600, A7R IV, and every camera body made after that except the A7C and A7S III. And keep in mind that the LA-EA5 doesn't support autofocusing with video, no matter what the camera body it's attached to.
@EagerSnake
@EagerSnake 4 месяца назад
@@FriedmanArchives oh, I see. Thank you for the clarification. I only need the adapter for photos on my A7III. So, maybe it's OK... Ish?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 4 месяца назад
@@EagerSnake I would say no, it's not OK. For the A7 III your best bet is the older LA-EA4 adapter.
@pierluigicapitanucci9079
@pierluigicapitanucci9079 3 года назад
Thank you, Gary for this video
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
You're welcome, Pier!
@crysania
@crysania 3 года назад
Appreciate this demo! From what I'm seeing, the monster adapter wouldn't work well for fast action. I'm not sure if the LA-EA5 would with the correct camera or not. If anyone has used the LA-EA5, old Minolta glass, and the A6600 or A7RIV for action, I'd love experiences with it!
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
I used the A7R IV, which I'm pretty sure qualifies as "the correct camera". You shouldn't expect performance that's any better than what was demonstrated.
@crysania
@crysania 3 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives Oops my brain shut down and got this confused with the other one I watched where they used the a7iii!
@Ghien_Cong_Nghe
@Ghien_Cong_Nghe 13 дней назад
I am using sony a7m1, would laea3 or laea4 be more reasonable with zeiss 135 f1.8 ssm lens? Thank you very much
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 13 дней назад
Definitely the LA-EA4, since the original A7 lacks phase-detect AF on the sensor. (Also, I don't think the 135 f/1.8 is an SSM lens...)
@JamesDeane_ca
@JamesDeane_ca Год назад
Wondering if anyone has any updates on this product? do you have one, would you still recommend it years later. I see Monster is still selling them, but at $200 seems kinda pricey.. Is it worth it? Has Sony released firmware updates to the LAEA5 to improve it's performance? Hoping someone with experience can give an update on owning teh Monster adapter after these years.
@fengshuischoolindonesia6161
@fengshuischoolindonesia6161 2 года назад
Thanks Gary, so impressed !
@zerocoolsam5453
@zerocoolsam5453 2 года назад
Hi Gary, Which adapter should I buy for my Sony A6300 Camera?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
Well, not the LA-EA5, that's for sure, since it won't work on that camera. See my other LA-EA videos at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mXsV3UJcwdw.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5FvusonVmmM.html
@maartenroest9204
@maartenroest9204 3 года назад
I hope they being it back on sale.. shame Sony has such bad firmware suppprt. They could learn from companies like Olympus...
@sommers13
@sommers13 Год назад
Hi Gary, thanks so much for your great videos. I have a quick question. I recently bought an AR7IV and an EA5 adaptor for my Sony A mount lenses. (I have the 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, etc.). I love the glass and don’t want to spend $$$ to replace it all with E. That said in your video you mentioned “the EA5 is not for shooting sports … if you want to shoot sports get yourself an A1 and a native E mount lens and don’t look back”. To my question - I do want to shoot sports, am I truly not able to do so with my current setup and if so, could you help me understand why? Thank you in advance!
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives Год назад
Hey, Steve. Well, you saw how slowly both adapters were able to attain focus. So imagine a sprinter running right toward the camera and it would have to keep up. That's an extreme example, and the sport you're shooting might not require that kind of speed (maybe you're shooting a basketball game from the bleachers at the halfway point), but the fact is nothing is as nimble in focusing as a native E-mount. These adapters are great for things that don't move relative to the camera much.
@sommers13
@sommers13 Год назад
@@FriedmanArchives Hey Gary, really appreciate your quick and thorough reply … can’t thank you enough. I did update the firmware on the AR7IV this weekend and that appears to have helped … somewhat. I had my son jog towards me in the kitchen (good lighting) and like you said, as he got closer the camera really struggled to find focus. Darn! For obvious reasons I had hoped not to have to replace all my glass (outside of my prime lenses) but it appears I will have to do so. I do like to shoot my daughter’s basketball games, but do so from the baseline, so will continue to have focus challenges with my current setup. Thanks again so much!
@bosahvandenberg
@bosahvandenberg 10 месяцев назад
"Gosh darn good job" :)
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 10 месяцев назад
You think so too, huh? 🙂
@alatraqji
@alatraqji 3 года назад
HI Gary, Thank you for the video, its as always very informative. I have a side question: what about the old SSM lenses, do they work well on the E mont with the ability to focus during video using these adaptors ? I have few SSM and not sure if they would work as good as on my a99MK2. Thank you
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Neither of these adapters will AF during video. And neither of them will outperform the A99 II.
@alatraqji
@alatraqji 3 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives thank you for your reply. So the 50mm, 24-70mm, 70-400mm all cannot focus during video on e mount. That's shame 😕
@kalleankaa7536
@kalleankaa7536 3 года назад
@@alatraqji thats not true when it comes to original untouched la-ea4. You can get fast AF in video mode but it automatically goes to P program mode and not manual mode. Your limited to f3.5 even if your lens supports 1.8 and youöö have auto shutter. But its a very fast and accurate AF in video mode. I use this adapter with A7S mk1 and i think this adapter was meant for these older cameras lacking PDAF points.
@QuietOC
@QuietOC 3 года назад
Interesting that the Monster modified LA-EA4 focuses on the Alpha 1 because a stock LA-EA4 is MF only on that camera.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Really? I no longer have a stock LA-EA4 so I can't try it. That's kind of disappointing.
@actionphotopassion5082
@actionphotopassion5082 3 года назад
Do you have any link to cross-check that ? I find this surprising to say the least.
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
Yeah, it's super annoying, Sony dropped support for the LA-EA4 on the A1 and the A74. Sony giveth and taketh away. The only body that fully supports both the LA-EA4 and LA-EA5 is the A7riv.
@SuperByzantium
@SuperByzantium 9 месяцев назад
Does LAEA5 work on Sony A7 mk 2 for Minolta AF lenses?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 9 месяцев назад
No. The LA-EA5 works only with cameras made after 2020.
@markfewtrell7454
@markfewtrell7454 Год назад
good work
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives Год назад
Thanks!
@Latvijasfans
@Latvijasfans 3 года назад
Gary, thanks for the video! I have laea 3 and 4. I just trying to understand if there is any difference between 3 and 5 for ssm lenses. La-ea 5 works on any Alpha body but with limitations. Would be great to compare differences between 3 and 5 when using both of them on A7iii.
@AdamHouston
@AdamHouston 3 года назад
The LA-EA5 works well for SSM lenses on any E-mount body, only limited by the AF of that body - so you’ll get better AF with your favourite A-mount SSM lens with the LA-EA5 on your A9 than with your A7. The restriction to A6600, A7R4 & A1 only applies to screw-driven lenses like the three that Gary demonstrated here.
@Latvijasfans
@Latvijasfans 3 года назад
@@AdamHouston but the main question is there any difference between La-ea3 vs 5 on bodies, what is not fully supported. Will I get any advantage when I will using the same lense on body, which is A7iii. Question is tricky, because Lae3 performs very well.
@AdamHouston
@AdamHouston 3 года назад
@@Latvijasfans, while I have both the 3 and 5, i haven’t compared their AF performance with SSM lenses. I bought the 5 to let me use my 135mm f/1.8Z (AF is very quick) and 500mm f/8 Reflex. I haven’t noticed if there are any functional differences relating to the two adapters with my SSM lenses - maybe support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=ap&lang=en&mdl=ILCE-7M3&cat=7#notes_adp_0 might show whether the 5 unlocks anything new with your A7iii.
@Rohambili
@Rohambili 2 года назад
Hi Gary! The a7II Body have face detect AF?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
Yes, it does.
@desertgecko4549
@desertgecko4549 3 года назад
6:30 You can't change the focus area, but in which focus mode, AF-C or AF-S, or even AF-A? Does that make a difference? Some features are limited in one mode or another.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
In this case, it works in both AF-S and AF-C mode. See some of my other videos (links in the description) for more examples.
@klwmsuable
@klwmsuable 2 года назад
I have found that the Sony 2x a mount teleconverter will not work with the 5 adapter on the r4. The kenko dgx 1.4x and 2x teleconverters will work. The kenko 3x teleconverter even afs in some cases. Why did Sony disable their own teleconverters?
@dariuszmarciniak72
@dariuszmarciniak72 2 года назад
Hello. Do you know if the connections of the Sony A7 R III + LA-EA5 + Tamron 150-600 mm f / 5-6.3 Di USD G2 / Sony A work properly?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
It won't, since the LA-EA5 doesn't work with the A7R III.
@dariuszmarciniak72
@dariuszmarciniak72 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives It is listed as compatible on the Sony website
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
@@dariuszmarciniak72 It's not completely compatible - it doesn't work with the lenses using the screwdriver-blade focus coupling mechanism. Anyway, I don't know what kind of AF mechanism the Tamron uses and I don't have access to one so I can't respond intelligently. All I know is the LA-EA5 is NOT fully-compatible with all bodies earlier than the A7R IV.
@savedemperor8024
@savedemperor8024 2 года назад
Does the LA-EA5 work with the first gen sony A7?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
No.
@chinitopinoy1726
@chinitopinoy1726 2 года назад
Will it the 500 f8 mirror AF autofocus without the mod on the LAEA4 on an A7S III? I just need central point for my work.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
Without the mod on the LA-EA4? It should.
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives Yes it does.
@chinitopinoy1726
@chinitopinoy1726 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives Are you selling the adapter?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
@@chinitopinoy1726 As mentioned in the video description, regretfully no.
@chinitopinoy1726
@chinitopinoy1726 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives sorry missed it.
@blueskyjazz
@blueskyjazz Год назад
Hi Gary, so WILL the EA5 work on A7II? As you said not on A7S II.
@adil06944
@adil06944 2 года назад
Hi Gary. Thanks for making this video. Have you tried the latest firmware(v6)? If so, I'm wondering if you've noticed performance improvements?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
Yes, I have tried firmware v6 and the improvement is noticeable. So much so that I can now actually recommend this product.
@ff2364
@ff2364 Год назад
HI Gary, I see the firmware is up to v7. Just wondering how the monster performs relative to the Sony LA EA5 now? Is it as fast without the jerky movement? Would love to see an updated video.
@vincenzobongiorno9234
@vincenzobongiorno9234 3 года назад
can i see a video with sony la ea4r with 135mm f1.8 on a7 m3 ?
@garyfriedman2005
@garyfriedman2005 3 года назад
All of those items are buried in storage, and we're moving again. So no. :-( But it should work similarly to what you saw of the 80-200 f/2.8.
@flitetym
@flitetym 3 года назад
“Hi Santa! I’ve been a good little boy! Can I have some of your equipment?” LOLOL!! 🤣😂
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
No. LOL. :-)
@jochenkraus7016
@jochenkraus7016 3 года назад
I saw a used 200/2.8 some weeks ago but was too slow ;-( I have the 500 but more because it's special and not because it's so great. Afaik there was another AF mirror lens for the Vectis system but that might be all AF mirror lenses I know about.
@pengzhang7007
@pengzhang7007 7 месяцев назад
DEAR GARY, I HAVE A900 AND 70-200G VERSION1 AND 24-70ZA BECAUSE MY ENGLISH IS NOT THAT GOOD ,I CANNOT CATCH ALL WHAT YOU SAID IN THIS VIDEO, NOW I WANT TO BUY A7M4 IN 2024, IF I WANT TO GET QUICK FOCUS AND MORE FOCUS POINT OVER 15 WHICH ONE SHUOLD I BUY? EA4 OR EA5? PLS GIVE ME SOME ADVICE,THANKS!
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 7 месяцев назад
Get the LA-EA5 and make sure your A7M4 has the latest firmware update.
@pengzhang7007
@pengzhang7007 7 месяцев назад
SO KIND OF YOU!!!!@@FriedmanArchives
@pengzhang7007
@pengzhang7007 7 месяцев назад
ANOTHER QUESTION, HOW ABOUT THESE LENSES USE EA5 FOR MOVING TARGET SHOOTING SUCH AS BIRD AND AUTO FOCUSING?@@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 7 месяцев назад
@@pengzhang7007 Well, you saw how fast the adapted lenses focused in the video. If you want great AF performance, absolutely nothing beats a native E-mount lens.
@pengzhang7007
@pengzhang7007 7 месяцев назад
OK! thanks A LOT SIR!@@FriedmanArchives
@dmitrykhudenko4243
@dmitrykhudenko4243 3 года назад
Hello! Great video, I am currently looking for AF Mirror lens for bird photography and that eye AF thing and movable AF zone looks like heaven's gift compared to my current manual 500/f8 Mirror. However I've got one question left: there were two versions of Minolta AF Reflex 500/f8, first under Minolta brand which you've shown and later Sony branded lens which is said to have faster AF. Will LA-EA4r "monster" work with later Sony lens the same way as with your Minolta?
@actionphotopassion5082
@actionphotopassion5082 3 года назад
They are exactly the same lens. Exactly AF driven the same way with the pin-screw... So I don't even see any reason why the Sony version should be AFing faster. If there would be a difference, it would be the coatings used... Except of this they are exactly the same lenses. OTOH even if we can welcome the effort to unleash the full potential of sensor AF with LAEA-4R, I can't imagine it able to track birds. On native A-mount cameras , the exercise is possible but still this lens is pretty slow to AF. So with LAEA-4R I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
@canine001
@canine001 3 года назад
Hmm, they both look slower than my a700. Was considering moving to an a6600 or a second hand a7r4 to utilise the new adapter but now unsure. Thanks for the comparison, loving the extra focus points with the 500mm and la-ea4r. What firmware you running?
@canine001
@canine001 3 года назад
Should add I have all three of those lenses 😀
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
I was running firmware v4. Don't go for any adapter for speed. If you go through the full description the video, you'll see a link for a video where I compared the monster adapter to my A99 II. And there's no contest, A-mount camera bodies focus faster.
@canine001
@canine001 3 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives thanks Gary will take a look at the a99ii video. I had thought about buying one but considering its now more or less a dead end it still commands an impressive price. Guess I'll have to build from scratch again on the e-mount like everyone else.
@jochenkraus7016
@jochenkraus7016 3 года назад
The bulky EA4 was the reason to get an A77ii when my A37 stopped working :-( I hope it's durable :-) There are some amazing E-mount lenses. I hope I can stay away from that trap for some time ;-) Edit: Especially full frame E-mount. I have a few small APS lenses, but some of the latest full frame stuff looks great.
@patrickmayer7813
@patrickmayer7813 3 года назад
Hi, From experience using the Monster adapter on a A7II body: it is possible to shoot birds in flight with the 500mm f8 lens. Wide area focus actually works well enough when the target is near infinity. No hunting when the camera figures out what you're shooting « far away ». The combo also works for birds which are closer, but stationary. One last benefit using this adapter: Minolta’s old but good f2.8 primes (20, 24, 28, 135, 200mm HS) work well with it. And are much cheaper than Sony E mount equivalent lenses, if they exist at all. Drawbacks: focusing is slow on some lenses, regardless of available light. But for someone with a less-than-cutting edge body, the Monster adapter is a good value :)
@superbmediacontentcreator
@superbmediacontentcreator 4 месяца назад
Will an 'A' mount lens with an internal motor work on the EA5 adapter?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 4 месяца назад
Yes, there's a screwdriver motor in that adapter. Know that the adapter only works on Sony bodies made within the last 2 years (except the A7C and A7S III).
@superbmediacontentcreator
@superbmediacontentcreator 4 месяца назад
@@FriedmanArchives Yes, I realize that but perhaps I did not ask the question correctly. The question is will a lens with an internal motor still focus on the EA4/EA5.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 4 месяца назад
@@superbmediacontentcreatorThe answer is 'yes' - all A-mount lenses can be focused using either the LA-EA4 or LA-EA5 adapter.
@superbmediacontentcreator
@superbmediacontentcreator 4 месяца назад
@@FriedmanArchives Cool, so the only difference is that the LA4 will focus in Movie mode. You do not say if the Monster adapter continues this function.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 4 месяца назад
@@superbmediacontentcreator It depends on the camera body. Some allow it; some don't. I don't recommend using the LAEA5 for focusing during video mode anyway (regardless if the body allows it or not) because the focusing will be kind of jerky and it will call attention to itself in video.
@networm64
@networm64 3 года назад
Just a silly question, does any of Emount teleconvertor adapters work with any of these using any Sony A or Minolta lenses?
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
Not a silly question, no you cannot use the Emount teleconverters with the LA-EA4 or LA-EA5. They don't physically fit.
@olekristianskalien602
@olekristianskalien602 3 года назад
Hey 🙂 putting a la-ea4 adapter on a Sony a6400, will it kinda slow the camera down? Or using it on a A7ii will it fasten the AF?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Old lenses with adapters are never faster than native lenses.
@angelisone
@angelisone 2 года назад
Hi Gary Friedman, do you know if the AF assist beam on Sony HVL-F60M will work with these adapters? Because AF assist beam never come on using e-lenses. And being the e-lenses being so big the camera's AF assist beam is useless because 60% hits the lenses.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
Sony disables the near-IR AF assist beam on the older flashes because (in theory, anyway) the wavelength is blocked by the IR filter laminated onto the sensor.
@angelisone
@angelisone 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives Very strange with Sony. Flash show AF assist beam coming on on Sony SLT-A99, SLT-A99 II and SLT-A77 series. So Sony think the Sony HVL-F60M, that has MIS shoe to be old? Then do you think the HVL-F60RM II can not do HSS once head is in bounce positioned?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
@@angelisone The A99, A99 II, and A77 are not mirrorless cameras. It's the mirrorless cameras they won't work with. Don't know about the F60RM II in the bounce position - will have to try it. Sony surprises us sometimes. In the past it was disabled because the flash intensity in HSS mode is considerably lower (that's the tradeoff). Bouncing such a weak light is just asking for disappointment.
@angelisone
@angelisone 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives You are correct with Sony. Many speedlites are 80ws maximum (GN60 by hiked the ISO & 200mm setting), not exactly a powerful flash. Strange that Canon & Nikon flashes (including 3rd parties) can do HSS with bounce. Just not on a Sony. Even Nissin Di866 Mark IIs doesn't work in bounce. Sir, since you are one of the few that know and understand flashes, my questions: 1. Do you know where I can buy the capacitor (inside the battery pack) for Metz 60CT-4? 2. If I replace the flashtube with quartz tube & drill some holes for vents on HVL-F60M, would that reduces the overheating & shutdown?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
@@angelisone Can't help with either of those questions; sorry. GF
@gregzarkodimos9711
@gregzarkodimos9711 3 года назад
Love the gear, love the beard :) Cheers
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Hey, thanks!
@jerryphoto1
@jerryphoto1 3 года назад
If you have the A7R3 or the A73 or anything older don't waste your time or money with this adapter, I was told by four individuals that my lens would work with my current bodies none of the lenses will even autofocus
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
Which adapter are you referring to? There are two covered in this video.
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
The LA-EA5 is not compatible with any bodies earlier than the A7R IV. This is documented on the Sony website and elsewhere.
@jerryphoto1
@jerryphoto1 2 года назад
@@DavidTheHappenings I had called and spoke with Sony reps regarding this adapter prior to ordering it and was told by them that it would work I had to return it after receiving it because it did not work and as I said after speaking with For representatives
@sundaydickson
@sundaydickson Год назад
Good day sir, does the LA-EA5 work with Sony a7M4? Thanks.
@anne4524
@anne4524 3 года назад
My Eye AF is not working using the sony a6500
@tonisemom2455
@tonisemom2455 3 года назад
Thank you for this video! Does the Minolta 500mm f8 work on the unmodified LA-EA4?
@QuietOC
@QuietOC 2 года назад
Yes, the AF version of that lens has always worked on the LA-EA4.
@robertschoemer1250
@robertschoemer1250 2 года назад
Do any of these adapters work with the Sony NEX-VG30 camcorders? Have some manual URTH adapters that work OK?
@musicmaestro88
@musicmaestro88 2 года назад
compatibility list is on Sony site.
Год назад
Hi, thank you so much. I just got the a6300, i got minolta af 50mm f1.7 and a 70-210. Which adapter do You recomend? Is posible to Buy the monster today?
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives Год назад
Yes you can still buy the monster adapter (see details in video description). Don't know if it will work with all of your lenses though - it depends on the focus drive mechaism. If you're unsure, the LA-EA4 is your safest best since it works with everything.
@BoxxyFan
@BoxxyFan 2 года назад
Monster adapter AF speed is unacceptably slow
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
That's why I make these videos... so you can see for yourself without risking anything.
@kalleankaa7536
@kalleankaa7536 3 года назад
Why the hell would i want to modify the la-ea4 if it works faster with screw drive lenses. I dont like this monster mod. Id rather have 15 fast af poibts than 425 slow af points. My old a7s with mc-11 and canon 50mm stm is faster to af than the monster mod. Also, im not bashing your video. Im actually gratefull for the video. My rant is for everyone else with the mod. Its not worth the hassle.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
It's not for everyone. The purpose of this video is so you could decide for yourself if it was right for you.
@kalleankaa7536
@kalleankaa7536 3 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives can i ask. If one used a lens with SSM motor and LA-EA3 ( one with no af drive) is it faster with old or new cameras? Because i heared mixed feelings about la-ea3 compared to la-ea4 where the 4 was actually faster they said.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 3 года назад
@@kalleankaa7536 I made a video showing the difference and explaining the tradeoffs. You can see it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5FvusonVmmM.html
@kalleankaa7536
@kalleankaa7536 3 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives thanks ill check.
@RainbowTrumpeter
@RainbowTrumpeter 2 года назад
La-ea4 maybe fast but have focus-shift like other sony A-mount body. Monster mount can focus accurately, slowly but accurately.
@threesiblings4017
@threesiblings4017 2 года назад
Please make a video with better audio. It sounds like 1970s video
@denisdgonovich8251
@denisdgonovich8251 Год назад
Спасибо.
@iceman23677
@iceman23677 2 года назад
The LA-EA4 is more expensive than the latest LA-EA5 adapter!
@DavidTheHappenings
@DavidTheHappenings 2 года назад
It has more components, it has the translucent mirror.
@adokapo
@adokapo 2 года назад
Fun times buying new Sony camera every 2 weeks. Just to make sure that you can use your 30 year old lenses.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
I know! Isn't it great to have choices? The fact that so many are interested in these adapters speaks to how great the older A-mount lenses are.
@adokapo
@adokapo 2 года назад
@@FriedmanArchives I agree 👍. The thing is that they are awful in updating firmware in their cameras. And now you have this situation where just 3 random cameras are supported. Not even a7S3 or a92 that are all latest bodies that came around same time as this adapter or even after in case of zv e10. Same story with other accessories. I wonder why don't they want to sell more stuff to everyone that is interested? They behave like they are the only ones. I wonder if they did some survey about which Sony cameras are the ones that Minolta guys use the most and then they just optimised for those? 🤓
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives 2 года назад
@@adokapo True enough. This also applies to the ability to accept the digital microphone accessory via the MiS hotshoe - the A7 IV doesn't support it. Marketing always takes features away from lower-end bodies; Sony certainly isn't the first nor the last to employ this tactic.
@tonybaker55
@tonybaker55 Год назад
Guess the Chinese guy no longer exists, as the link finds nothing.
@FriedmanArchives
@FriedmanArchives Год назад
I wrote to the guy to ask what was going on. Here's his response, and I'll update the video's description as well: "Hi Gary: Glad to have your mail, and thanks for asking. I am very busy recently, and I had bad connections to Facebook, so I can not update that page freqently. But I will buy a paid VPN to solve this next month. And yes, eBay store was closed, but I have setup an official store, all of our products listed there: www.monsteradapter.com I think it's much easier to remember. I am working on next firmware update of Nikon to Sony adapter these days, once this finished, I will back to LA-EA4r for SSM/SAM drivers(Firmware v08). Thank you! John"
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