Lac Viet vs Extreme AI (AoE1 Rome DLC) 

All I can remember from playing AoE1 against the AI as a kid is that they had about seventeen thousand towers in their base. The AI absolutely LOVED making towers.

All animals did in fact decay when killed back in AoE1. The predators decayed at a higher rate too.

As someone who really likes both games but couldn't get back into AoE1 after being spoiled by AoE2's quality of life improvements this is THE perfect update for me personally. It's literally AoE1 in the AoE2 engine. I can't wait to replay the campaigns again after so long!!

I think the cheap town centers were born out of the fact that 50 pop was what they thought the standard would be, so getting an extra town center or 2 in bronze age wouldn't be as big of a deal when you were already so close to how many villagers you'd want anyways.

You should make a video that breaks down the main changes between Return to Rome and regular AOE2 so that people can understand AOE 1 better since there are several differences.

Loving to see these perfect farms arround the TC and the granary, can't wait to place my own.

This is what the AoE1 DE remake should have been in the first place I'm pretty sure hunt always decayed in AoE1

But do the monks do the old "wololo" sounds?

So here's a quick rundown of the major differences between AoE 1 and AoE 2 in this version (there are many more differences if you go back to classic AoE 1 including its DE, like no gates, but those have been changed for this version):- Stone is much less useful (no castles, town centers don't cost stone, towers are weaker cos they don't fire extra arrows from garrisoned units, only 1 weak unit costs a measly 10 stone). Walls and towers, even just the basic ones, also have to be researched first before you can build them - at the Granary of all places. So you can't just wall off your base with palisades from very early on. Only grain food i.e. berries and farmed food, drops off at the granary - hunt and fish need a storage pit, which is also your universal drop building for all resources EXCEPT grain food. As Spirit did here, you can also just build mass TCs in the late game. Many eco techs have multiple effects (for instance, the wood techs are also where you get extra range from). Probably cos it's the first game and the developers were afraid gamers would ignore those boring eco techs if they didn't contribute to your army. They're also all to be found in the Market, not your drop-off buildings. The AoE 2 blacksmith techs are available from the storage pit i.e. your eco drop-off build. Why? I have no idea. Many units have an 'ultimate' upgraded form that costs a LOT more to upgrade to, have a pre-requisite tech to get first and represent a BIG jump in their power. In place of unique units, this is what serves as the most visible differentiator of the various civs. Also many Tool Age units don't upgrade to better versions in later ages. The real army progression begins in Bronze Age. The government center is your university-like building, and has a number of techs that's it's worth reading as they have more notable effects than just improving gather rates or damage or armor. Some will be useless, some are pivotal, many are unit pre-requisites. The only (un-modded) AoE game where priests actually WOLOLO. 😇

You probably don't want to create a specific civ overview for aoe1 (as you are aoe2 youtuber), but you could make 1 video, giving general overview for each civ. Glad to see aoe1 being in a spotlight, just wish they added more units for balance and flavor.

I thought it was cute how well you took care of Jean-Paul. He was definitely the focus of the video.

As an AOE 1 DE Player who actively plays it, the best upgrades from the DE are the gates, formations, trade carts and better path finding. It is absolutely annoying to micromanage without these quality of life upgrades. Whenever I play AOE 2DE, I find it much more easier to focus on planning my game instead of micromanaging.

I remember the wheel at the market being very important, one of those ASAP researches. Zealotry was one of those techs you almost never got. I remember losing to it though, haha.

I feel like that Zealotry tech seems like it would be worth a video to explore whether it actually improves resource collection or makes it worse or if it's situational at best

I hope there will be original AOE1 campaigns for this new DLC. Whether official add-on or workshop mod, that would be really cool.

"Don't fall in love with deer in this game." I would argue that is good wisdom in general. Ask Bojack.

I can’t believe you made a double rainbow joke in the year of our lord 2023

Slingers in AoE 1 don't have bonus damage against archers. Like all units match-ups in AoE1 it comes down to their stat combinaison : Slingers start with 2 pierce armor, meaning they're one of the few units that are naturally resistant to archers. So they dish out their damage to the archer while barely taking any in return, making them win against them in the long run. They're what you'd usually call a "soft counter" in AoE2 terms compared to the "hard counter" that a unit like the Skirmisher would be.

It can be quite confusing for an AOE2 player to see that none of the Tool Age units can be upgraded any further. Also the fact nearly all "unit unlock" researchs have additional effects (instead of just Chemistry and the odd Unique Tech). (It's intriguing that they kept Logistics exactly as it was in AOE1, considering that you can play with a population limit of way more than 50, and with the Market being able to trade resources you will never run out of them)

I'm here for the calm and soothing voice over of Spirit. It's like watching Bob Ross.

Really awesome to see this! I'm so excited to one day play Age of Empires again!

Decay on hunted animals was always a thing in AOE1, though. I distinctly remember it even from the CD-ROM days!

When you mentioned naming villagers, that reminded me of Tzar - burden of the crown. In that game, you could name every unit.

I hope the mod manager works for this as well. I just want the old voices again.

I hope you do some extreme AI vs other AI stuff in AoE, like you did in AoE2. Some of my favorite videos where you commentated those matches!

A Spirit game play vid? This is the best Friday ever.

"Archery Range has +2 armor" The rest of the civ cavs: F#$@!

on Aoe1 the AI is nasty especially on extreme. Booming is also more difficult there if you don't produce military, usually its throwing slingers against slingers as soon as tool age hits or chariot archers on bronze age. And Aoe1 villagers are made out of paper with no way to garrison against cav rush

I also hope they change some of the AOE II sounds back to their AoE I Counterparts. I Don't like the AoE II Button Press, Conversion Alarm, Conversion Victim, etc I wanna see the Old Alarms (Hell. to make a AoE I Priest Alarm. take the Original Sound, and Interweave "Wololo!" with it

Good on ya, JP! What a legend.

we really dont get enough of SOTL playing! and its great when we do!

I loved watching this, I've been playing return of rome a lot since its release and the lac viet are one of my favorite civs to play because they're so beginner friendly and strong, there are ways to counter them yes but thats any civ. I've just had so much fun playing return of rome, it reignited my love of AOE

Glad to see Vietnamese being represented in AoE1

You did have the Logistics tech that reduces the upkeep of military units by 1/2. It was the last icon to research in the Government Building. Icon is a guy with a backpack.

The legend of JP

AoE 1 was my first game, if rome calls i must answer!

That double rainbow reference was subtle 😁

Silly nitpick, but I'm kinda mad that they aren't using the AOE1 berries and stone/gold piles. Can't tell with the trees.

For a second I thought I'd missed the release. I havent bought any of the other civ DLCs, but this one I'm gonna get straight away.

I can see more unit management and tower/wall placement being part of how good you play.

wasn't expecting a double rainbow joke in this... aoe1 looks better than ever though! it was my first video game so I'm super happy to see it make a comeback, of sorts

Good to see AOE1 rolled in with Vietnamese. Would love to see other early civilizations added to AOE1 also. Plus would love to see Polynesians and a Native North American Tribe added to AOE2 as well.

i'm excited to play this!

I remember in og AoE the Egyptians would mass tons and tons of priests with 16 range. They'd convert everything. I still hear the wololos in my dreams...

Why are they not saying "erectus"? 😢

"Double berries all the way, cross the map! Yeah! Yeeahhh! So intense!" -- Spirit of the Law, 2023

Oh god, the AoE 2 conversion howl and jingle, mixed with Wololo. It's the power-combo of nightmarish sounds.

Now we're gonna need an in depth video about the benefits of Zealotry XD

Looks pretty good, guess Aoe1 translated well for Aoe2, with a few things to relearn here and there.

I guess since Town Centres give 4 population as well technically they are worth 150 wood if you compare them to storage pits + a house. So an extra 50 wood and you get a garrisonable pit that can make vils

oh god that reference at 4:09 killed me!

From what I can see, I think TCs should definitely cost stone too. Also you should be able to upgrade slingers, as more of an anti archer unit throughout the game. But so far I'm very excited for Return of Rome. I hope the devs will keep the game alive for a long time and maybe add more content in the future.

Hello @Spirit of the law, love your content! Could you analyze how elo rating changed over time? Like how hard it is on average to reach a certain level. Would be very interesting and much appreciated! Also learn sth about elo on general

Our deflector shields cannot handle nostalgia of this magnitude! Edit: aww man, i just remembered Galactic Battlegrounds. A DE or a port of that would be insane

Would be great if you can make a video about the differences between 1 and 2. I have never played AOE1 and majority of the techs and troops and just lost on me lmao

Hi SOTL. Can you make a video on animal decay rate? Is there any mathematical formula for decay rate?

love that civ pun :D

It's has to be a really tough call about the Town Center question. Should they garrison? Should they fire arrows? Should only some garrison or fire? Should only the starting TC garrison/fire? There's pros and cons to any and every option and they took an interesting middle of the road safe option. I guess it makes sense.

Did they remaster the OG aoe1 music? That was some glorious tuneage

Really looking forward to this DLC, since I'm actually pretty nostalgic for AoE1, but also knew that me these days would not tolerate its dated game mechanics. Thus this DLC would do the trick for me.

Do you think it will ever be possible for the scenario editor to be on Console? And if not Do you think we will ever be able to submit community made mods like civs, maps and campaigns for more of a selection on Console?

Is it me or the villagers have increased large of sight and speed to compensate the lack of starting scouts. And also you start with 9 berry bushes and 8 deer to compensate farms being locked until tool age and requires a market.

SOTL got so excited about his berry start he will probably tell his grand-children one day

good job ^^

Will you do civ reviews on AOE1 mode civs? :)

Given how much space is in the sidebar at 0:00, I wonder if this is the first part of a wider release & content strategy.

Damn those ancient stone age archers sure have ballistics!

I never thought I'd hear anyone referencing double rainbow again in my life, especially on an age of empires video.

Happy, that JB made it. 😆

Love this. Hopefully aoe1 will get some more love now theyre all under the same platform.(aoe2)

i hope this opens up more modding opportunities

4:08 Double barries, Mason, what does they mean?

Does the DLC also have the missions from AoE? I'd love to do them again with the new mechanics

I do remember that enemy siege would aggressively macro to avoid your shot in original CD and DE, but it seems not doing that in this one

I really love this update, and I hope that they add more updates and civs to the aoe1 portion of the game. That civ list is looking a little barren compared to AoE2 😬

Does anyone knows if all of the AoE 1 campaigns are going to be included?

In AOE1 the gazzelle also decays food

i remember my only issue with the old age of empire 1 to be the 50 pop limit and i felt like there was never enough gold ^^ (was my first game along with Settlers 3)

Man trying to read all the upgrades before you clicked them surely had been a challenge

BTW Are there any more trash units? In AoE 1 DE, axeman, bowman and scouts where the trash units and they where not so good, also chariots and chariot archers cost no gold to but only some civs could make them.

Love hearing the AoE 1 soundtrack again, even if I think a few of the remasters are worse than the originals.

That spawns was a frank players wet dream

Just really bothered there's no Unique Units...

2:43 Romans discovering Lasers... didn't know about THAT tech. But I didn't play AoE 1 much so that's the reason probably.

Can u make a video to help us with the hotkeys?

I believe more is coming to RoR DLC, it has to.. They have a big 3D model database, from AoK to AoM, even roman scutum model render is in armor upgrade icon, yet there's hardly any new custom editor units in DLC..

At least they made town center same dimensions as farms making it easy to tile around it.

Wololo aiooooh wololo aioooh (x250)

04:09 i Was laughing way too hard on that one!

when are we getting the AOE4 in AoE2 DLC?

Are there coyotes? A pack of coyotes would be epic

can someone help me get the res publica achievement on xbox pc?

Is there a way to have the og sound effect? We need a mod if not, or is just me?

do relic carts do anything special now? like getting gold or something?

Jean Paul... Bat Chest...

Are we only getting multiplayer stuff from AoE1 or are we also getting campaign and co-op campaign?

Sacré Jean-Paul ^^

i never owned AoE1, i just played the demo mission over and over and over, 20 something years ago, i had a great time, its still nostalgic though for some odd reason although i never had the full game

Man it's kinda jarring to see villages casually walk at that speed. They should have a jogging animation

They brought back decay, it was in the original game for hunt able animals.