Lady Edith & Herbert Pelham Love Story | Downton Abbey 

and also that green beaded "bedith" dress from season 3, when she dined with Michael Gregson at the Criterion... perfection :)

@@Crisco8624 yes agreed

The change in her wardrobe is also a metaphor of her growth of becoming an independent and modern woman.

@@Crisco8624 Laura Carmichael has "thick" skin and needs gowns that cover her up, not to be more revealing. Her skin is revolting. Her character was so desperate for a man that she "fell in love" with anyone! A cousin who didn't want her, a tenant farmer, an old family friend, and someone with zero self-control (who first got her pregnant with zero plans for the future, and then got himself killed by the Nazi brown shirts, because he couldn't keep his mouth shut, in a foreign country, by himself, against an armed force with no scruples. Reckless and stupid describes Edith. Plus, they hired an odd looking child (half bald with buggy eyes) to play the daughter. (Mary's son and Branson's daughter are beautiful.) Edith (and Laura Carmichael) are/were just awful.

@@cjosborne9430 You have problems. There's nothing wrong with the actress's body but the fact that you're attacking her unprovoked shows how messed up you are. There's also nothing wrong with the child actor either. Your dislike for the character is spilling over into the real world and you need to check yourself.

She had that with Michael but for some reason he was written out. He was a man's man and smitten with Edith. In the movie she states she misses her life and that was the one Michael gave her.

Totally agree. He is such a whole genuine person. She cannot believe it.

I really do just love seeing these two together.

Agreed! She finally got her happy day!

Bertie and Edith are wonderful but my favourite romantic interest is Charles Blake for Mary.

Cant stand her with wimpy Berti. He states he cant live with someone who isnt trustworthy. I realize the social mores of the time but give me a break! Mr Morals.

@@taroman7100 Bertie is understated, principled and kind. That doesn't mean he's a wimp.

Wanting to be with someone who treats you the way they would want to be treated is not wimpy.

@@thedarkdane7 It's the Greatest Strength anyone can give to another and to themselves. Love is patient, love is kind, love does not boast or brag. It gives strength and leaves you breathless. 💕

@@m.layfette6249 How beautiful! :)

The problem with that is it isn't realistic at all. Back then, an illegitimate, out-of-wedlock child would NEVER have been accepted by him or anyone else. It just wouldn't have happened. That's not how life or society worked back then.

So agree!!!

So well acted

Good acting indeed

Yes! I've replayed just that bit many times ❤

Yes he was a top actor and when he said goodbye when they had to break ties - just great.

When is it?

I agree. The compiler of this video clip left so many other good scenes out.

I always felt so sad for Edith! No matter what she did it's like no one ever saw her as good enough or valuable. But then she met Bertie. I love that she outranks her family in the end. She deserved to.

Que excepcionalmente perversa lady Mary,su envidia hacia su hermana es monstruosa.Menos mal que no consiguió ahuyentar a Pelham y ahora tiene un maravilloso esposo y

Purr

Team Edith from the start.

My parents joke that their three daughters are a lot like Mary, Edith and Sybil. Especial my sisters being Mary and Edith.

Actually that was the second time Mary did sth like that. First with Anthony Strallan before the war at the garden party. Pure viciousness.

Don’t forget … Edith wrote to the a Turkish Ambassador about Mary’s affair with Pamuk and how he ended up dead in her bed! I can’t believe Mary didn’t mention this to Cora! This probably made Mary even worse towards Edith.

Oh also … Edith was egging her on because the race car driver had left and Mary looked dismayed about it. Tom even told Edith to stop.

Nice to see Edith finally say what see thinks...

​@@SummerRain368Served Mary right. She earned it.

Quite possibly the best character development we saw on the show. Early on, Edith lashed out at being the overlooked middle child - it made her bitter and vindictive. But she found purpose in different ways over the course of the series, independent of her family and their opinion of her, and it brought out the good in her. Even when Edith fell on bad luck (and she certainly did), she didn't let herself slide back into her earlier bitterness. And it all paid off beautifully in the end.

I thought it was such a shame that they took her from being a talented independent business woman back to being no more than a wife

LOOOOL

Which season was that?

@@dookiecookie100 season 6

Ge Yes, 😁😂😅 I saw that, and boy did it put Mary's nose out of joint. I loved it.

The BEST bit!!

@@so62539 and she was always the pathetic sister and Mary did everything she could to keep her down. I love how Edith got everything she deserved in life.

I’ve been trying to find that clip - but it’s nowhere

@@dionnevoller2903 Besides the DVDs or on Netflix, I can't find it anywhere either. Maybe they'll add it to this video later on down the road.

I persnally thought she was foolish to do this But it was added drama

I was very surprised too. It’s one of my favorite scenes. After all Edith was put through in the early seasons, it was so wonderful to see how her and Bertie’s story ended. ❤️

Because as Violet likes to say "does it get lonely atop the moral high ground" I think Edith braving her mother in law is because she had no choice between mother in law and momma's boy.

Michael had those things and he was more of a man. Cant stand her with Bertie.

Me encantó esta pareja y su historia de amor!

@@taroman7100, Michael was a married man. The affair was a mistake. Bertie was a great man. Perfect for Edith.

Bertie is a little worm.

@@taroman7100 What, why?

I think she's a bot

@@jacobs9083 this was before he found out he was going to be the marquis of hexham

Bre Well! She's absolutely right. Money DOESN'T buy health OR happiness for that matter, and happiness and Love is something Edith has never had in her life.

I agree, but add Tom to the list.

@@debra-vs Very true, him as well.

Fully agree - Harry Hadden-Paton - what an incredible talented actor - I have had tears in my eyes watching this scene

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So very true! They should have killed off Lady Mary until Lady Sybil!

I do love both those scenes, too! That visit to Brancaster was also when Mary met Henry.

Mary's lifestyle is still very fine, and Henry isn't penniless. He's doing well in the automobile business and not afraid to work for his living.

Wouldn't call Henry is penniless

@@rowanaforrest9792 Just goes to show that Not every heiress NEEDS to marry an heir.

Like the others pointed out, Henry isn’t penniless. He might not have the estate and bankroll of Mary, but he’s about as “penniless” as Mathew was the moments before he became the heir. Matthew was a very successful lawyer who could afford a live-in maid and cook, and a house big enough to have spare rooms for them. Henry is known well enough to have been invited to the Sinderby’s party at Bertie’s cousin’s estate that they rented for the occasion. Lord Sinderby with his “moral high ground” attitude would have not associated with a grubby race car driver if there wasn’t some sort of prestige behind him. Also the snobby butler kept snubbing Tom but didn’t ever snub Henry, meaning Henry had a bit of respect to his name.

@@staciecarrel4492 That's true.

She had two wedding dresses....you are forgetting the first wedding when the groom muttered something about not being able to and rushed out of the church!

Agree! I didn’t care for her first wedding dress, the second one was gorgeous!

I agree completely. From the very beginning, Bernie shows great character. He is quite the gentleman and has a very genuine heart. Even after he inherits the title, he is still the same humble man. ❤

I'm so glad she heard you and followed your advice.😉😁

I liked that part too

Edith is a horrid creature with no redeeming features. Bertie is goofy nothing-burger who gives rise to the tales of "idiots with titles." Julian Fellowes must invent awful characters to make himself feel superior. He wants the losers to win. They deserve each other.

It was like he was channeling Sybil in that scene…that is exactly what she would have said, and how she would have said it (I imagine it was done on purpose…fantastic acting and writing!)

Yes along with Rose and Atticus!

She was the first to learn how to drive, she became a journalist and had the most beautiful wedding dress I've ever seen in the movies.

First of all, Edith wrote to the Turkish Ambassador and ratted out her sister (who had done nothing wrong). Edith stuck her nose in a matter that had nothing to do with her. By doing so, Edith hurt her father, her mother, her grandmother and her sister (all because she was jealous of her beautiful sister, Mary). Then Edith tried to start an affair with a MARRIED farmer, who is a tenant on Crawley land. His wife catches Edith and FIRES her from their operation by writing to her father, Lord Grantham. (Edith was angry but forgot about the nasty letter she wrote just to hurt Mary.) Edith picks up a man and has s*x out of wedlock and becomes pregnant and forces her aunt to lie for her. She then breaks her promise to her aunt and grandmother. She then forces the neighbor to lie for her and causes trouble in his marriage by her aggressive behavior. Edith insists that an older family friend marry her. She will NOT take "no" for an answer, so he is forced to abandon her at the altar just to get rid of her. If you think that type of behavior is "kind, principled, strong and sincere" you need a dictionary.

@@cjosborne9430 The letter Edith wrote to the Turkish embassy a decade prior is in no way a justification for how lady Mary treated her for six seasons, constantly attacking her and damaging her self esteem, and sabotaging on more than one occasion her chance to get married. Remember, Mary hated and bullied Edith way before that letter. Plus, why blame Edith for bringing disrepute to the family through the famous letter instead of blaming the actual person (Mary) who brought disrepute to her family by entertaining (f*cking) the Turkish man in her bed? Also, servants were already talking anyway, and it was a matter of time before the story would have gotten out. Edith had reasons behind her actions toward Mary and has had a marvelous character arc. At her core, Edith, if perhaps occasionally snobbish, is nevertheless good and decent, unlike her evil sister. Finally, Edith was a modern woman ahead of her time (career ambitions, child and romance out of wedlock, learning how to drive a car, etc.), and that unmistakably ruffled some feathers, but l don't find it wrong. And Edith's strength is evidenced by her surviving the constant bullying she suffered from Mary, Cora and others her entire life. So, her triumph, at the end, was delicious.

@@cjosborne9430 I also agreeI didn’t like what she did the Drew’s. Robert should of given them mone to rebuild. You give a child to someone and take the child away . That is simply wrong.

@@edwardfitzgerald3877 when Mr. Carson was thought to be having a heart attack, Edith's response was "but what about my dress?!" That was the least kind response anyone could possibly have, and it wasn't the only incident proving how self-absorbed she could be. Yeah she was bullied and treated unfairly by her sister and even sometimes her mother, but that doesn't give her a free ticket to be called kind despite her actions.

And despite the hatred between the two sisters, it was Mary, woh made this restaurant scene happen.

The first time I saw this scene 🎬 I teared up. 🥲 It was beautiful. I was so happy for them. 🎉

I am

Just not on PBS - but maybe another channel

👋

The idea sounds like one of those dreadful American sit-coms when they try to milk it with spin-offs. It never works and tends to detract from the original. Sorry.

YEAH! DEW IT!

Not to say Edith was driven to write to the Turkish embassy but I watched closely to see why she could have done this when she was such a stately lady, literally sounding like the Queen. I then saw that Mary had been beyond brutal to her. Edith overheard Mary talking nastily about her to their mother and saying that Edith was going to need all the help she can get as she is a plain Jane. Not in so many words but she implied. Her parents also neglected her because they thought she was not a looker. She simply felt alone.

@@the8thchurch461 yeah but ruining your family and yourself by association isn’t the best thing to do when your sister is mean to you.

@@MsPandachen I see what you mean but she wasn't that old/mature enough to think that far ahead. She just thought about the immediate hurt to Mary and squaring up. She did say she felt like an outsider in the family. She was neglected and even her mother said she won't find love and would be the one to look after them in old age. Robert was appalled. I totally see where she was coming from. She didn't get the support the prettier sisters got.

@@MsPandachen Of course it isn't. But she lashed out in response to Mary's constant, constant chipping away at her self-esteem and getting absolutely no support from her family.

Everyone forgets it was Thomas who passed on the story and made it London gossip.

I love his acting at that point. And then trying to hide emotion when the waiter appeared.

Suuuuch a good acting choice. He’s awesome.

I don't like British actors 🤷. I liked a few

Agree!

the drama was a bit exaggerated between Mary and Henry, indeed, but otherwise I thought they also made a great couple... and his physical resemblance to Michelle's real-life fiance (who had passed away by then) was eerie...

@@Crisco8624 Are you kidding?! He passed away before the end of this show?! Oh my...

@@naturazpolski9213 yes, and I recall reading that he passed around the same time Mathew was killed off, too... I watched S4 again after reading that, and I understood why I always thought Michelle played Mary's grief exceptionally well...

@@Crisco8624 Oh my, that is purely terrible. I admire her she played even while she was in real grief

It's my favourite really, spot on!

Quite frankly, one of the best scenes of any season! So moving!

Me too!!!

Edith had matured and I still think she grew and changed the most~

He can never forget that she welcomed his advances to her when he was a "penniless land agent" and she was a well-off publisher, as well as an earl's daughter, and without a trace of condescension on her part. She'd all but agreed to marry him long before they knew he'd inherit his cousin's title and estate. Since then, no doubt, women who wouldn't give him the time of day before are throwing themselves at him.

What he was looking for was honesty from her. Which one could say made him rather loving and a bit ahead of his time. What he received was dishonesty and insecurity.

@@steveparadis2978 It was mentioned at one stage that there was a shortage of available men after the war. Society was changing. Women were finding jobs and, as can be seen in the course of Downton Abbey, the aristocracy could no longer afford their properties.

@@laerwen Life was so unfair for women in those days. Men, especially the gentry, could have their mistresses and a dozen children out fo wedlock, and it was normal. Wild oats and so on.

the clothes responsible of the series did an amazing job with all of Edith's wardrobe, incl both her wedding dresses :) I would wear most of that stuff nowadays without a problem :)

Simply Stunning

My sister and I saw it yesterday, and it does not disappoint. We loved it!

SHE DID! Watch the episodes she’s in

@@ebl36 I am going to watch it right away. Thanks ! Just is just too good !