I love how Matthew and Branson were in her corner at this time and later, her parents did come around to give her the support she needed when she was going through the rough patch of losing Gregson and nearly losing Marigold.
It's terrible to be the persona-non-grata of the family. Though I am not that in my family, I am not a musician, etc, as are my siblings, and therefore, while my academic achievement has merit, it still is seen as less than; at least in my opinion.
@@jmarie9997 I think maybe a lot of it has to do with Cora's influence. As I recall, there were moments in Season 3 where she was not so subtly trying to convince Tom to stay at Downton Abbey with Sybbie by stating that she thought children were best raised in families. We don't hear her say that when she's trying to convince Edith to come back to Downton Abbey with Marigold, but I wouldn't be surprised if, at some point, Cora probably said something to Edith about how much better off and happier Marigold would be at Downton Abbey with Sybbie and George rather than off in some flat. Plus, there's the fact that Edith was, until she married Bertie, a working and single mother. While she may have had issues with her family, it's pretty hard to turn down offered help in a situation like that.
And more discouragement when she wanted to pursue something.Neither Edith was good nor Mary in the beginner at terms of behaviour and attitude towards each other but we saw more of their charecter in the later series and at last they had a relatively happy ending.
I was so happy when Edith found her calling as a journalist, and eventually as an editor (although the situation around the latter was very sad). It always felt like something that Sybil would have been *so* supportive of.
Lady Sybil would have been Lady Edith's strongest and loudest supporter. It wouldn't surprise if Edith wrote an article about her sister's work as a War Nurse.
@@msfriendsfan4ever788 Actually, if Matthew was still alive, he would have softened Mary even more to prevent the incident when Bertie intended to tell Edith's family about their wedding. Matthew would condemn Mary's behavior.
Robert is insufferable to both Edith and Matthew. He neglects her daughter and struggles to let his heir do what is necessary for the estate after having failed repeatedly in that regard.
And remember when he built a huge stone monument for Ms. Patmore’s nephew who was shot for cowardice in WW1? Listen, I know the kid volunteered to fight but cowardice during wartime not only gets your fellow soldiers killed but can ultimately lose wars and cause untold horrors and suffering on civilians for the side that loses. And here is Robert encouraging it! Makes me sick. How he sired a babe like Edith, beats me.
@@SpaceTravel1776 um didn't Mrs. Patmore's nephew get shoot because he abdandon the miltary? Since not everyone who goes into the miltary likes to kill people.
@@therra1101 He didn't get shot for "PTSD" or shell shock as they would have called it back then. He got shot for cowardice. The former occurs after someone participates in actual battle, cowardice occurs when someone has never participated in battle dangerously refuses orders to the point it endangers his fellow soldiers.
Violet: "Edith dear, you're a woman with a brain and reasonable ability, stop whining and find something to do." Edith finds something to do. Violet: "Wait, what?"
The new feature film reveals that Edith is going back into journalism. So, it seems she didn't sell the company, just that she isn't involved in the business anymore given her duties as a Marchioness. I'd find it heart-warming to learn that Edith groomed Marigold in journalism and the running of the company, so that she could turn it over to her once she came of age. That way, Marigold will truly have her father's legacy as her own.
How Wonderful..Downton has the potential for many sequels.. or Spin offs..An Young Adult Marigold Working at the Women's Magazine along side her Mother someday sounds very nice..
ok i need to see Edith wearing her coronation gown!! it would have been spectacular, when all of them attend the king's coronation i hope they have the budget for that lol
It wouldn’t be right for Edith to throw away Michael Gregson’s legacy by selling the company she inherited from him. It’s great to know that Edith is still involved in running the company while balancing motherhood and her royal duties as a Marchioness.
True. I also think Mary admires when people stand up for something that they believe in, & she was possibly surprised to find that in Edith. THAT was a side of Edith she actually liked!
It's no wonder Edith was such a lost soul for most of the seasons. In a way you feel sorry for her. Mary being the oldest, always had men flocking to her while Cora and Robert always seemed to make her needs a priority over Edith's. Robert didn't even try to give Edith some confidence in regards to her new job. In a way Michael Gregson was the greatest thing to ever happen to Edith. If it wasn't for him, she never would have gained ownership of his company nor the confidence to prove to herself and her family that she can be a strong, independent woman 💕
Back then Women of Wealth and prestige....Where not supposed to have career aspirations ..They where not supposed to desire work outside of being a good housewife. having kids and raising a family..That was their Job..
@@SamanthaN92 Yeah thank Goodness..Times have changed....Back then in those days.. the Oldest Son inherited everything..Only Son's in The Family bloodline could inherit Titles and Property back then..even if he was born last and was the youngest....A Daughter could do so only if there where no Son's..or if they all died...Women where expected to Marry Well..
@@SamanthaN92 Edith really came into her own..I like how all Three Women got older and found their own Establishments..(Careers..as Cora Crawley Called it once in a Downton Episode..)..All Three Women where expected to Marry Well/ Produce Male Heirs..be happy housewives..
Poor Edith, but it is lucky she has her brothers-in-law on her side & even subtly, Mary. And I am sure her late sister Sybil would support her as well. And also God Love Isobel & Rosamund too!
Laura's Carmichaels performance is outstanding. Big fan of her really. Her acting is so natural and genuine. They did cast her very well. Like all of the others tbh of Downton Abbey 🙂💯.
Geez, Robert, for once in your life do support Edith, your own daughter. She has literally no luck from the beginning of the series (though in the end, she found the love of her life and became a marchioness).
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 Here, here! I vote not because I've earned the right, but because others fought and died to give it to me. For that and so much more, I am eternally grateful. 🇺🇲 💜🗳️
@@m.layfette6249 not judging or criticizing, but how have you not earned the right?? I was born in the u.s., registered to vote when i was 18 (let’s just say, 30+ years ago) I used to be able to go vote by myself, but in the last 10 years or so, my sight has declined appreciably (born with some eye issues, which have caused other eye issues as I’ve aged), and i am blessed that for now, my geriatric mother is willing to take me, read the ballot, and sign an affidavit that she didn’t influence me. After 2016, my district was one of many that spent the money to buy adaptive equipment and a poll worker was willing to learn how to use it. My mother is offered a chair, sits just far enough away i can call her to ask her a question, and the poll worker stands a bit further away, so that he can’t see what I’m doing or hear my mother and i talking, but close enough that if i have a problem, he can be there immediately. And always, as we leave, I’m offered an “i voted!” Sticker. I always politely refuse, because my mother isn’t willing to drive me to NYC to put the sticker on the grave of Susan B Anthony. So, I’m in the habit of saying, “thank you suffragettes.”
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 I too was born in America. Lived in the same city and same state for over 40-years. I registered too late to vote for President Clinton during his first term in office. Which made me mad at the time because I was young and eager to cast my ballot. Fast forward to present day, and I am Proud to say that I have voted in every election, both local and presidential. During the pandemic was the first time I voted via absentee ballot. TBH, it kinda spoiled me. It was simple, easy and as someone who is immunocompromised, it was a relief to just drop off my ballot and not wait in long lines. My state held it's Primary this past week. I voted in-person this time, just didn't take the time to apply for an absentee ballot. I went towards the end of the day and the lines weren't that long. (Mores the pity for a local election. Digressing for now.) Anyway, I say all of this because as an African American Woman, my ancestors fought and continue to fight nail and tooth to earn and retain the Right to Vote in this country. As an American, I am proud of the work of the Suffragettes and Abolitionists whose sacrifices paved the way for the rights and freedoms, some take for granted. Each day I hear news stories and read headlines about voting rights and women's rights being snatched away by those who think they know what's best. My vote matters. My voice matters. My life matters. My body matters. My love matters. My education matters. My freedom matters.
The way Tom and Matthew sit next to Edith, being all protective supportive older brothers while dad is fuming... gosh those two would be an unstoppable force of reason for this family, shame Tom was left alone
Natura. Boy can I relate to lady Edith. That was MY position in my family too,even tho we weren't upper class/ nobility. But I was always adjudged as having insufficient intelligence to do anything beyond the absolute basics of life. Rather like Lady Edith. Years later I proved them ALL wrong. But now I have trust issues with most people, and am terribly independant, since I REFUSE at any time, ANY help from ANYONE. I've been on my own from day ONE, and that's the way it stays. I don't need them to do anything for me. I'm perfectly capable of doing things on my own, and the point about THIS little rant is thst I can So well understand Lady Ediths pain and bitterness. She too has been treated like garbage her life. Poor love.
@@lizb853 Sister, you're not alone in this! I technically have support from my family etc. but whenever I do something which isn't even a big deal for me, like run for 10 km, they are shocked I could. They say they're proud, but to hell, I did that thousands of times and you still act like it's the first time? Also I feel like I was always on the second place, after my older sister and ok, she needed my parents attention more than me, but hell, I was just a girl who was turning into teenager and since the I've felt like I've always been less important. Always less attention, less time spend together, less everything. So now, few years later, when I'm an adult, I don't feel that need of their attention anymore, they don't know a lot about me and I don't feel like I can trust them with everything. If I wasn't important enough for them then, so they could spend some time with ME, when I was nearly begging, why should I feel I'm important for them now?
So true. At least she's the middle child. Try being looked at as a failure by your family AND being the eldest (the sibling whom the rest are supposed to look up to). I get no respect from my gifted younger siblings so, like Edith, I had to get away and carve out my own path.
"Gardening you can't be as desperate as that" ...How sad Gardening is wonderful and rewarding and Lady Grantham it takes a modicum of brains and creativity...
It's funny how Robert and Carson look at Edith at 4:00 like she said something untrue. They were always harder on her and less supportive of the things and men she pursued.
Both Robert and Carson hated change occurring after the great war they both fought tooth & nail to try and have everything back to how it was before the war but obviously failed its not just Edith they targeted look at Sybil and her choice of husband and how cora wanted to be more useful and help the soldiers even after the war
Well...Its great how each of the Women found their Way....Sybil became a Nurse..Edith a Writer/ Editor..Later owner of A Womens Magazine/ Publishing Company. ..Mary a Business Woman... running the Estate.
So at that point Mary was allowed to sleep around and be a total biatch, Sybil could learn a profession in which she was cleaning off human bodily fluids and married the chauffeur, but god forbid Edith marries a good aristocratic man simply because he got a war wound and as that failed pursue a career based on intelligence and wits. Wth
At 2:33. Has Carson been low-key checking out Jimmy? "Hard work and diligence weigh more than beauty in the real world." He just called Jimmy beautiful! LOL. Carson! Practically a devilish homosexual sodomite there, like poor, sad Thomas... ;)
