Arnold Schwarzenegger's quote there's only two types of champions ones that do steroids and ones that lie about doing steroids. Arnold Schwarzenegger quotes in encyclopedia to modern body building
I completely understand that point of view. Perhaps McGuire/Sosa/Bonds/Conseco see it that way too. When you're in a competitive professional environment & u see people around u getting ahead by cheating - it's difficult not to b tempted to behave as they do. I've never had the pressure of being a pro-athlete on my shoulders but I'm still confident in my judgment that when u begin cheating to keep up, you have become part of the corruption. Sadly, when I hear Armstrong say he'd do it again or spout off $figures about bike sales & charities(as noble as those endeavors may be) I interpret that as someone who is still making excuses for the role they played in amplifying the problem.
BBC: "Would you cheat again?" Lance: "Today, No. Back then again, yes." Lance: "It's an answer that needs some explanation [context]" BBC: LANCE SAID HE'D CHEAT AGAIN bbc....(smh)
Ikr? Journalists can be such pricks. He's being honest. People make mistakes sometimes they are bad people. People change. He knows his weakness and he is admitting it and being vulnerable. He didnt deserve those medals but he deserves forgivness. If you cant find that empathy in your heart that you can never have empathy for yourself when you screw up and believe me....everyone screws up. Nobody is a saint.
You'd use the exact same headline. He literally said if he'd go back to 1995 he'd do it again. I've always supported Lance as an athlete and for his support to charities, now more people will get to hear the story that makes us continue to look up to him.
Also they aren't in court they don't have to use verbatim. Is it misleading to replace "it" with "cheating" when "it" literally refers to cheating? I think the problem was that he didn't give any click baiting quotes, and they were trying to promote his message. If they used this interview to mislead him and make him look terrible, I'd agree its bad. I don't think journalists should run smear pieces, but they have every right to try and promote whatever they wish.
That's a completely unrelated comparison, and in no way a defense of verbatim. In your case the quote would've been taken verbatim, but it would be out of context, however the context obviously implies something that is completely opposite to the quote. You also brought race in to emphasize a point when there was nothing there before. He said I wouldn't cheat now because nobody does it anymore. If everyone was doing it, "Yeah I'd probably do it again". That's not taking anything out of context, that's making the most common editorial quote change in the history of media to bring people's attention because Lance basically said if I had to do it over again, I'd probably cheat again. Therefore the title is not misleading, or disingenuous at all. I'm not knocking Lance one bit, he doesn't want an unfair advantage, he just wants to compete harder than anyone else.
I said your comparison is unrelated, not out of context. My point was you can never give full context. This video doesn't give good context. Are you saying the title should be banned? Or the video? Also this title actually does describe what he says accurately, people are just butthurt because he said well yes and no. If the title was "I wouldn't do it again" then THAT would be misleading because he literally said that he would, but that's not the case so this is really just fine. If you want more context, watch the video, its simply not misleading though.
@@jennifers4528 he didn’t say he would cheat again, he said that he would dope again if it was 1995 and doping was pervasive. It’s cheating if you are the only person doing it, but it’s not cheating if everyone is doing it
it's actually NOT out of context. It would be out of context, if he said "I'm not gonna say: I'd do it again". This however is a QUOTE. HE ACTUALLY SAID AND MEANT IT.
@@st3ppenwolf Satanic people do satanic things, like hurt others for profit. Our world has been captured by Satanists and we are fighting with GOD to get it back.
@@JackIsNotInTheBox he had a multi million contract with nike and trek. He could have got paid big just for showing up to a one day race. He came back just for his pride and that was his downfall @
His ex teammate, who was busted for doping & stripped of his title the year after Lance’s retirement blackmailed him. After his suspension, no team would work with him so he told lance he would go public about his cheating if Lance didn’t come back & put him on his team. Lance was so mad, & arrogant, that he came back but refused to put the guy on the team. The next day, he reported Lance.
He actually got away with it. He wasn't caught until he did his comeback. Floyd Landis called him and asked for a job. Lance said sorry, you're kryptonite, can't have you. Landis said "oh yeah?" and went public about all the doping. Had Fraudstrong not attempted a comeback, he'd never have been caught.
Alfie Brookes That does not make it square. He use that to benefit his own public image in a vast way. If money would make up for all the lies, the manipulation, the bullying to those close to you; you could buy your way into heaven
I think he made it quite clear how he felt about the drug taking and the person he was beyond the competition itself. Your point is accurate because it is his point! 🙏🏽
mitchell strong So what you're saying is that 20% of the top riders weren't in trouble for PEDs? So it was still possible to be a top rider and not dope during the late 90s? I know, it's more than likely that they were never caught but there's also a chance that they were clean and Lance's argument is completely false. Also, just curious where that factoid came from.
"the vast majority of cyclists at armstrongs time never tested positive." LOL! Lance Armstrong passed every blood test when he was competing. It wasn't until well after his riding days that he got caught. It's meaningless. They all know how to pass a drug test. Cycling is one of, if not the dirtiest sport out there. Damn near every one of them were cheating.
Wally Hays says: "So what you're saying is that 20% of the top riders weren't in trouble for PEDs?.." = He's not saying 20% were clean. 20% may have gotten away.
Great interview. He gives a brutally honest reaction- not the reaction many expect or wish for- but very honest. Refreshing to see. Don't condone his actions but respect him being forthcoming.
@@JackIsNotInTheBox google what a sociopath is. His "honest" way of talking is him not having feelings of shame or regret. This is also why he is such a great liar and how he fooled everyone and ruthlessly destroyed people around him for years while being charismatic and creating a cult-like following. That's pretty much what (successful) sociopaths do.
@@NJ-wb1cz Yeah, most of psycho/sociopaths are in the social pinnacle of many things. They dont care for people, so they just search for happiness in these kind of things.
@@Herbert2892 yup. Some part of humanity evolved innate repulsion towards sociopaths as a counter tactic, perhaps because those that didn't have it had a tendency to die a lot back in the messy days of human history. But not everyone has it, sadly.
I raced in that era, got signed in 2003 by a French team. Got there, saw what was happening with the doping and decided that I don't want to make a living like that. Now nearly 15 years later, I think I would tell myself to go and do it. It is not just the racing and winning the money and salaries, it is all the other doors that become open to you that otherwise would be nearly impossible to get access to. It's a dog eat dog world out there...
I think this is a great comment. You experienced the reality of the scene, rejected it, which society would judge as heroic, yet it leaves you admitting the cost of being honest. If it was not Lance it would have been somebody else no question. That to me makes a big difference.
@@robogreek3157 it may appear as an excuse but is legit as clearly we all know how many were on PEDS.. I think anyone who wasn’t on them would use this excuse for not making it.
@@dscoduc Some did. Some suspected. Most did'nt want to know. The thing is -regarding trying to get money back from the investors -it has to be proven that they knew.
Lance Armstrong entered a sport where to win you needed to cheat. The Spanish cyclists had government backing, as did their tennis players, athletes and footballers. Lance did what he needed to do. However, Lance remains a cheat, a bully and a liar. He is not a good role model.
I have completely forgotten about the drug use because he was the best cheater out of cheaters. Nobody can deny that man's drive. To come back from cancer like that to compete at that level is insane. The pictures of him when he had cancer are tough to look at. Watching him is motivating as hell because of his competitiveness and drive. Unfortunately, he will never be able to escape the bullying. It was bad, really bad. He hurt a lot of innocent people and will have to live with that the rest of his life.
You have summarized exactly what transpired. The cancer, the come back, and the willingness to pay the price. People forget the amount of work that went into winning 7 tours. Yes, the performance was tainted but the effort was not. You mention the bullying and that’s what liars, cheaters, and addicts do. In that realm, there is no conscience. It has escaped everyone, even decent people with good intention.
Exactly they think o he cheated it was easy for him... I'd like to see anyone of these keyboard warriors get on a bike and cycle down the street, never mind up those mountains. He would have been suffering the entire ride, even with the addition help, it just means you can push into an entirely new level of suffering
@@elpllc7541too bad it all means nothing now that he cheated. Might as well have strapped a motor to his bike and rode the race that way. If at any point you cheat you’re no longer a worthy athlete, you’re scum and honestly I’m glad his entire life was ruined from this. Not that he seems to even regret what he did
I'm an runner and never in my life took steroids or smoked a damn thing in my life... be the Hall of Famer not the Hall of Shamer. Be the example for kids or you will be hated for a long time
You were also never offered 10s of millions to be at the top of the sport. Hard to say what your decision would be if you were promised the world but...you had to do this what you would do. I'm convinced that any athlete at the absolute top of their sport isn't on some type of performance enhancer and continues to take it to stay in that position. Sports are an money maker, and the athletes are just pawns for making more money.
Lance didn't take steroids he took EPO or Erythropoeitin, an extra dose of a hormone produced by your kidneys to stimulate production of red blood cells. It's not a strength increase, just raises the amount of oxygen that can reach your tissues so you can bike longer.. not as fraudulent as steroids in my opinion.
Lance is way more earnest and honest with himself and the audience then he used to; he's been able to step outside of himself now. Good for you, Lance. Impressive.
Stepping outside and using 3rd person is his way of deflecting the blame onto his other self. Instead of saying "I lied, I cheated" he says "that guy lied, that guy cheated" and he pretends all his vain, ill gotten glory was for cancer, but it was for Lance. That said, I don't blame him. Just got caught.
Never ever have I seen a thumbnail saying “Lance helps out in the darkest times of families lives “referring to his charity work ,more than makes up for what is essentially a sport ,life is more important
he said it himself, its not that he cheated but the way he cheated i.e. his sociopathic behaviour. That said as far as I'm concerned he was a legit winner of the TDF in that if you wanted to ride for a top team you had to take what was given to you by the team doc. It continues to this day.
He's won against other dopers because other dopers had no choice but to let him win (not because he was better than them at cycling) ... .. as he was the organiser of doping ring, other dopers had to let him win to carry on being part of the doping scheme to enjoy the sponsorship money ..
I remember watching a documentary at the beginning of the 2000s about cycling competitions. What was showed is that cycling was a drug fest with competitors doping themselves even on the starting lines. Even if people say nowadays it's not so much anymore, I have a very hard time believing.
Heavily rehearsed and emotionally manipulative, just like everything he said when he was lying about taking PEDs and destroying good people in the media and the sport who called him out on it. What he did to those people was unforgivable.
I wouldn't and I have proved that in my personal life. Money isn't everything. Would you let someone kill you for 1 billion dollars? No? Why not because life is everything? Would you go through 500 years of life knowing everything was a lie? Would you feel cheated if your life was just 5 years but was real, with love and had purpose? Would you kill someone you loved for 100 million dollars? Think about it, and even if your answers are the same and all you care about is money, at least you should understand that not everyone would make that decision. Think of Edward Snowden, Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King JR, Galileo, Giordano Bruno, Jesus, Paul, Fritz Gerlich etc. There are many people who has proven and shown that they cared about something bigger than money, which money can not buy. I am a no name who has done it, so I have no doubt there are many more like me and them out there too even if they are the majority. Not everyone thinks like you.
Stephen Fletcher Exactly! I wouldn't put any drug in my body just to get rich! Also all that effort from Armstrong with or without drugs means absolutely nothing! All that sweating climbing up mountains was wasted! I'd rather be clean and finish with the lantern rouge and know I had completed one of the toughest races ever under my own ability and determination! I honestly wouldn't want the adulation for doing something which was achieved by outside means! Going to bed every night living a big lie! The achievement means nothing and Armstrong will go to his grave as one of the biggest cheats in sporting history! Not a great epitaph!
Lance's drug cheating was horrible, but the worst part about him was how he treated other people and how he was a pathological liar. He's a rotten, nasty, and despicable human being.
Please research before you speak. Anabolic steroids can completely change your biological capabilities. Your recovery, muscle function, muscle memory, skeletal strength, reaction time, etc. The benefit for a competitive athlete is undeniable. For example, studies have shown that a male athlete on just HALF the average dose has a faster recovery time of up to 85%!!
@@mimad4923 I’m fully aware of what steroids and such can achieve, but everyone was doing it so it’s a level playing field if you look at it that way. And steroid won’t help the weak and useless.
Everyone involved were getting so rich that no one wanted to stop the money train. So everyone from the top down turned a blind eye to what was going on.
He was a genius. Hard trainer, hard core competitor, a genius at using science to win. He beat the other doping guys at their own game. So what? I thought he was great.
I don't give a sh*t about the doping...it was the BEST Cycling entertainment that I've ever had the privilege to watch....Cycling now is boring and still full of cheaters and a-holes (Team Sky)...I miss the Lance era....
All the UFC fighters are on steroids and all the UFC legends have been caught cheating, and guess what, they fight the next fight and no one beats an eye, Aka Canelo😂
Did Arnold Schwarzenegger lie under oath whilst giving sworn testimony? Did Arnold sue people and ruin their lives when they told the truth. No he didn't. It's NOT like Arnold taking steroids for bodybuilding, Armstrong was a vindictive cheat, liar and a bully and an embarrassment to America. Just ask his mother.
man all of sports was different back then, NFL, basketball, baseball, soccer, MMA, boxing.... all the elite athletes were on steroids, everybody knows that
Saw the stats of the top 10 cyclists in the TDF over the past few decades, and I can only imagine that even the agencies doing the testing were involved. How did it get to the point where you had to dope to win? Is it still going on?
@2:52, glad to see him at least some a little contrition for the way he treated others. That's really been my biggest beef with him, at the end of the day.
I forgave Lance the moment I heard he was doping. Truth is, I don't care he doped. In all of professional sports, top athletes are forced to enhance their performance, because of the levels of pressure and expectation placed on them by their teams, friends, family, as well as fans. We all love to hear our heroes perform extra human feats, but we're also the same ones to quickly turn around and shame them when we realize they were only human, looking for ways to please and impress us. Greed or not, I believe that, if we were in HIS SHOES probably would have dome the same things, and without regret.
Funny thing is people and companies made billions using lance, they took everything from him and used him as a scape goat but the big companies got to keep all there profits and money, the same shit happened in baseball when they let players juice to hit more homeruns ( barry, Jose, Mark, ) to get fans excited and back to the ballpark, then the owners after the money was made turned on them to hide the truth.
I was immediately looking at him and thinking something isn’t right there. He doesn’t feel guilty at all, you can tell it’s almost like there’s this secret sense of pride underneath it all. Like, ‘yeah I doped and got away with it and you guys made me a millionaire’
@@abhayn9615 Oh no I'm sure his 10+ years of harassment and hard ass doping is perfectly normal behaviour lol. You don't have to be a psychologist to see he's only annoyed he got exposed, its not rocket science
Unfortunately Lances narcissism got the best of him. If he would have stayed retired this wouldn’t even be a story. He would be a legend and everyone would love him. Instead his narcissistic behavior made it that he can’t be out of the spot light and fighting something🤷🏼♂️Even his confession is part of his narcissistic behavior..when you make a decision like he and his team made you take that to the grave bc you have more than just your ass on the line there are ALL HIS TEAMMATES that he sold out and their families. His doping doesn’t bother me..him destroying all his former teammates that elevated him to his current fortune, fame and now notoriety have been betrayed. He is trash for that and that alone
To all the losers in the comments - if you were doping and wanted to keep up with Lance you’d still be miles behind him. Doping doesn’t make the athletes, its the endless years of hard work and focus. Something only .01% of the world can manage.
Hey bbc , you literally took his words out of context and mislead the title. Damn what a clickbait all for views! Should be ashamed of this behavior. Literally should change this misleading title immediately!!!!
I could dope as much as I like, I would never reach the level Lance would. He inspired me the way no one else would. I would never have cycled without seeing the way he trains, the way he race.
Who cares even if you were right (you arent but whatever). That just means 1999-2005 was a worthless dogshit era which didnt even produce a single top 30 cyclist of all time, Lance Pharmstrong included. The era is so shitty they didnt even bother renaming a replacement Tour de France winner as that whole era was a bunch of talentless dopers and non legends, so it is like that period didnt even exist. So lets just pretend you were right, Lance was the best of a nothing era that barely existed, it still makes him nothing.
Ralph Bourgeois pretend I’m right? I have done a lot of reading on Lance Armstrong and his career most of cyclists where doping at that time but no one did it on the scale that he did. Greg LeMond is still on record the ONLY AMERICAN to win the tour. How much reading do you do before you post. I’m not taking anything away from cycling I’m just saying that at the time it was easy to dope and get away with it if you have the people conducting the test in your payroll.
@@Unpopularopinions98 I wasnt responding to you but to John Franklin. I 100% agree with you, yes many others doped (not sure if all like some are saying, that is largely conjecture, it wouldnt surprise me, but people stating it as absolute fact are just doing so as more baseless Lance Pharmstrong defending and excusing), but nobody had the access to the quality and standard of drugs Lance Pharmstrong did. And the only ones who even came close were his only teammates who had team orders to work only for him to win and not even try to beat him, so they dont even count. And yes Greg LeMond won clean, and is miles superior to Lance.
Ralph Bourgeois my bad I thought the other guy was calling me stupid. I mean is lance talented yes he was but he wanted to be the best so bad he was willing to cheat to do so and I find that to be humiliating he even admitted he would do it again if it was 95.
He became honest when he was trapped, had no other choice, when he was caught. He would never disclose this information this own. He is a liar and cheater, unfortunately. Sad, because he was such an inspiration of strength of human spirit. 😢
"When the whole pelloton made that decision.." Oh yeah Lance, sure... What about Gilles Delion ? What about Christophe Bassons (who you bullied into retirement) ? What about Laurent Lefèvre ? What about Patrice Halgand ? What about these guys who always refused doping despite the pressure and the s***load of money that was offered to them ?
Yes! He destroyed the reputations of many people, and created a living hell for the people around him. He wrongfully sued people that told the truth and financially crippled them. I think the people on here would sing a different tune after reading David Walsh's book on the shit that Armstrong and his management goons pulled. He's a cold blooded sociopath who has never truly taken responsibility of what he did.
@@zoesinclair2359 i dont know much about cycling but t4ll me if my conclusion about Lance and cycling is correct. While we know that everyone wasnt cheating. The lqrge majotity, was doping and 100% of the elite cyclists wete on something. So even though Lance doped he shoulld still be considered great. Because thr best cyclists wete also on stuff and they couldnt beat him
When I tried riding on drugs I couldn't even find my bike! Seriously though..he didnt say he would still cheat. He said if you were to take him back to 95 given the same circumstances he would do the same. He was playing a level playing field back then. PHD have been pervasive in all sports for many years. Cycling was one of the worst. Still is. They were all on one thing or another....
if there was no EPO test and he had to cheat to win he would. Same thing. He would not cheat now because few are doping - testing has improved and detection is likely. In principle he would cheat if he had to and thought he could get away with it. Amounts to the same thing.
Armstrong was just the top of the iceberg. Even an italian cyclist, Danilo Di Luca, winner of an edition of the Italian Tour, admitted that, without dope, was not possible to win anything in that period.
You are dead right. The drugs only gave that little extra when Lance was already the best. Its like bodybuilding you first need a solid base on which to build apon before steroids will give you any gain.
Well that is not necessarily true. Now I do hold the position he wasn't the only cheater, 99% of the peloton cheated so was he the best under the circumstances? Sure he was. But, and this is important to note, EPO, Lance's main drug, has a certain way of working. It raises your hematocrit, which affects your recovery and your peak performance. But you can only raise it to a certain level (regulations have a max hematocrit and push it past a certain point and you die). So let's say you got two riders, who are both clean. Both riders are equal in prowess, but one guy has a natural low hematocrit and the other guy has a natural high hematocrit. Now the second guy has far less margin to grow using drugs than the first guy. If both start using EPO, than the first guy will blow the second guy out of the water. If they don't, we got a fair race. That is what doping does. That is why you can't compare doped up athletes to themselves when they are not doped up.
He wasn’t the only one cheating. The whole sport was rotten to the core. Lance has served his time.... if he can, then let him earn money to help sick people who need it.
Still my hero, everyone was on dope. Ullrich, Beloki, Valverde, Mancebo, Boogerd, Kloden, Heras, Riis, Landis, Basso, Hamilton and the list goes on. Why is Merkcx such a hero even though he doped? Its absolutely ridiculous.
@@rolandgreen7484 From Wikipedia: 1969 Eddy Merckx of Belgium tested positive for the stimulant Reactivan at Savona during the 1969 Giro d'Italia, after leading the race through 16 stages. Merckx was found positive at doping control and expelled from the Giro. Merckx steadfastly denied the charges. The controversy began to swirl when his test results were not handled in the ordinary manner. The positive doping control was released to the press before all parties (Merckx and team officials) involved were notified and happened just after Merckx refused to accept money for not competing in general classification. 1973 Eddy Merckx tested positive for a banned substance in the Giro di Lombardia classic. He was disqualified from first place. Runner-up Felice Gimondi was declared the winner.[60]
Dj Akademiks Sandusky think what you think, I will think what I think, it is called opinion and how I am raised you let people have them and discuss with arguments. My argument is that all of the names stated above (save for 1) admitted to blood transfusions, faking cortison medical prescriptions, EPO, growth hormones and Testosterone use. This story has more then one side and the US doping boss did make a personal vendetta out of this for his own gain.
Dustin Gabe just because he is a god in Belgium and nobody asks this question to him does not mean it is not true, he literally tested positive 3 times in his career.
Armstrong seems a selfish but straight shooting guy . I can see why he was at the top of his game for so long . Cycling at that time was riddled with drugs and he is no worse than the other individuals he competed against .he did what he had to do to win and to my mind he is a legend of the sport for that Era and forever .
The only difference is froome is trying to be a nice guy. I guess he learned from Lances mistakes and doing absolutely opposite. But I’m not so sure he’s a nice guy in a real life.
I think the tour the France is long and hard enough without doping and they were all in it not just Lance. In fact he raised money and helped and showed his finger to the underworld whom wanted to push him down to the ground after he stood up from cancer and made America proud of him but he got betrayed by his home country.
I don't have the same kind of disdain for Lance Armstrong that most the world does because he was in a sport where it was the industry standard. Does that make it right? Does that excuse his choice to participate in those practices? Absolutely not. I don't think I agree with his medals being stripped from him because they didn't strip other dopers of their medals. Ban him from the sport, yes, but past is past. The cycling world created this atmosphere and culture and they deserve the blame for all of this. Mostly my feelings about Lance are just sheer disappointment, especially after all the good he did for cancer support. Just disappointed.
..yes ...a real Tough Guy! ....compare this guy to Mark Cavendish who is as soft as melted Butter! ...-or "sir Bradley wiggins" ...lol ..- what a pathetic joke the sport has turned into !!!
Krishnan -Resurrection Lol Bradley Wiggins would spin circles around a clean lance.. and why do you have to be a tough guy? You make cyclists look bad b you’re the problem
That’s our world. People will still back this man and be a fan of him after knowing he cheated and lied. That’s the world we live in and we have to accept it, some people don’t care if someone does wrong, just as long as that wrong isn’t down to them they will still support it. And it’s so sad.
He still had to get on that bike and ride his ass off to win those titles. Just like Barry Bonds had to still use his great ability with eye / hand coordination to hit the damn home runs. Give these athletes some credit. They still work their asses off. PED's didnt do that much to make them successful, it was their talent.
Everyone cheated back then. At least he is honest about it and let's not forget that he almost died of cancer at 25, then came back to the top level and managed to raise a lot of money for cancer charity. We need to look at the whole picture.
@@yasminvillanueva3141if it didn t do thst much of a difference he wouldn't have taken them. He won 7 in a row, if the epo didn t do that much of a difference, he would have won natty say at least 1, which would have still been amazing.
if everybody cheats, then who cares? It's a dirty sport and they have no one to blame but themselves. Quit pushing all the responsibility onto the athletes. All the clean ones did not qualify.
I didn't get the reason everyone jumped on this guy. People in sports do steroids. It happens. How many have done it and nobody cared? I just think they jumped on one guy and nobody talks about the other cheats.
tyrone R No he’s not. He lied and tried to ruin anyone that stood up to him. He was a fraud. The other cyclists didn’t make millions off it the way he did.
lol how can anyone justify a cheat. With that logic all those who have been tarnished in other sports are also legends and doping should be allowed in every other sport in the world. I bet this tyrone fella shoots those roids right on his assss
When he got caught, he could have come out and say, this is my story! I almost died of cancer, survived and cheated my way to succes. 7 times! Hahaha. Still a succes story though, he lived a live he almost lost. I have respect for the achievement, but how he treated people was very rude and manipulative. So good achievement, horrible person.
Quirky catch phrases like 'Performance Enhancing Substances' drive people into confusions about life. If the phrase was "Person Enhancing Substance" then people might think like "Oh! You had a great breakfast and now you're ready for the game!" But no, the observer "purist", the observer "naturalist" wants to extract the competing person from what he does. The observer regards relevant contexts as his own to put the user beside, even outside the difference the user makes. Lance should be enjoying a well paid advertising job to promote the image of his great health and abilities that he built up to. Nobody puts a handful of tablets and a protein shake on the seat of a bike and says "Now this stack will win!" Look at what's happening. Savings separate cash from value. Electronics separate physical people from their messages. Literature separates ideas from their origins. The list goes on to a long distance. Lance, you won. Nobody can ever change the past - even if they can cuss and holler. Ride on, Bro. Look at pro-league body builders and weight lifters, for example. Former Governor of California who? How many Mr. Olympias? How many Mr. Olympians? Now, competition rules are another matter. That has its own morality. That's a system to equalize the chances of winning and losing. But a person who competes to win is not competing to equalize chances. He's trying to make the chances as unequal as he can!!!
@@BeanyOwns No he's not. Once you take drugs to get the edge on your opponents you are no longer the best. He cheated. Just like the rest of his opponents.
Lance Armstrong survived cancer, won the Tour 7 times, and exposed all of the corruption in cycling, but his attitude turned him into a hated poster child of a dying sport. Everyone knows for a fact there were egotistical Spaniards who doped and continued racing for years after Lance was banned *cough cough* CONTADOR, but their legacy is 100% unscathed because they weren't American and they weren't the best riders in the peloton at the time.
Can't be considered a great athlete! How do we know he accomplished anything without cheating?? I'm a great athlete because I accomplished nothing or never won anything while being drug free. Your comment is truly one of the dumbest I've seen. Full WOKE...
