Disco 2 would do it easily with its Centre Diff locked and traction control (even models without CDL would do it). The reason the shorty Defender did it easily was when progress was halted he engaged a diff locker (probably rear) ....you could hear the air compressor for the locker working...then it drove straight through. Nothing magical. Cheers
Very simple equation... td5 ( the first car ) is a piece a junk engine and transmission specially first gen up to 2002 yet it had traction control that's why it goes over it as the wheels don't spin when lifted . 300 tdi is the most reliable defender EVER MADE specially if you have the Wolf Version ( transmission and engine are forever ) if maintained. The Disco one with the 300tdi engine is the same story as the 300 tdi Defender... no traction control. To solve the problem you can add diff locks on front and rear axles and it will be way better than the traction control of the td5. I hope my comment explains it for the affectionado :)
defender td5, you can find engine with 800.000 km still running. I love all defender, we have all the same passion and addiction, why you use bad word's for a car who made the history? just remember the td5 is the last car made all in england...i'm very proud of my defender td5
+Landcruiser Toy Since the stock defender only has a center diff lock you install the proper diff lock. that thing that locks the axle. and was that an ad or something?
@@stuarthotchkiss3669 in some areas of the world diff locknrefers to something like an arb or detroit locker or an e locker. its a eegional dialect difference.
@@stuarthotchkiss3669 Well, if you're only using your LR for road driving then yeah, the diff lock is useless... But if you do go off tarmac with it, then no, its not useless. Far from it in fact. Also, this myth that it "splits power 50:50" is simply not true, you see it in hundreds of videos and thousands of comments about Land Rovers. The diff lock, forces both front, and rear drive shafts to rotate at identical speeds. The front axle and the rear axle get full power each not half power each.
no-one ever does it, but what you need to do there is put a bit of pressure on the brake pedal at the same time as some throttle. It means that the spinning wheels are resisted, forcing some traction to the other two. Easy when you know how!
James Rothwell Yes they can...they have centre diff lock! And if it is engaged it wouldn't be a problem at all in that kind of obstacle. I think in this case they were not allowed to engaged diff lock to rise the challenge.
Traction control applys the brakes electronically to the spinning wheels to send power to the wheels on the ground ,so what do you do if you have no traction control PRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL LIGHTLY you don't need diff locks
Traction control only applies brake to spinning wheels. Manually applying foot brake will brake all four. It may to some extent stop the wheels in the air spinning but also stop the wheels wanting to power out. Resulting in going nowhere in a hurry.
with the electronic traction control you must keep the power on so the computer will apply brakes to the spinning wheels then traction will be had at the grounded wheels ,,,, MAYBE GET SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE
Igor K I think the lesson here is to learn the limitations, and drive accordingly. You build skills this way. I only use my lockers if necessary to keep safety as a priority.
Para ser vehiculos tan caros land rover deberia haber montado al menos 1 diferencial mas en estos modelos ,bien trasero o delantero. El interior deja mucho que desear en cuanto a comodidad.
@@EZapar every offroad video ive seen whit a jeep in it they ither have a lucky escape or roll over not saying there bad just saying there a bit top heavy and you wont have that problem with a good old defender also if it did flip you can unbolt the roofs and bulk heads and tubs to replace them
@@thelandrovermaniac5334 You've googled the wrong vids. I haven't posted any for awhile, but if you look at my page, you can see my Jeep not falling over. :)
Once more demonstrating how useless Landrovers are off-road. Why is one wheel spinning and the other not? The spinning wheel should be braked and power transferred to the other on the same axle. The central diff lock is of no practical use anyway and you can easily end up stuck in two inches of snow with one wheel on each axle spinning. Useless. Buy a Landcruiser or a Tesla
stuart hotchkiss do you really believe, that brake action can drive your car? The real thing is transversal diff locks. Otherwise your brakes are fryed in a minute.
Any situation like this in nature? i dont think so many , you have all the chance to drive obstacels from several directions (maybe some degrees) to give your wheels more traction.You must first to learn driving without axel lockers than you come to be a verry experienced 4x4 driver i think.
That is the unfortunate side effect of having radius arms on the front suspension. They dont like to let the axle articulate as that causes binding. As soon as the weight comes off the front wheel thats compressed they unload causing the vehicle to lurch over. 4 link jeep suspension "quadralink" is superior.
@@MrNeild123 ABS RELEASES brakes when the wheels lock, not the other way round. I am sure that the ABS components could be used to provide wheel locking but since it is LR they will find the least obvious, most expensive and most useless solution as you can see in the video. Some years ago LR had a big campagign against the BMW X-drive system saying it was useless and would wear out the brakes. They pretend to have the same system now on the Discovery but it certainly doesn't work on mine. The myth of landrovers being good off road is just that - a myth
somebody say open the diflocks but , this trucks dont have differential locks on rear and front axles. just have center differential lock on transmission. if install arb airlock on front and rear axles, there is no problem for in this situation. first truck has arb dif lock. i heard the compressor sound :)
+Mühendis Keşifte if you don't have difflocks on the axles, then you can simply gently apply the brakes, the brakes would apply on all 4 wheels, but it would stop two lifted wheels from spinning freely.
I was thinking about this but and I thought that because the amount of torque sent to the grounded wheel is proportional to the amount of braking force on the spinning wheel and the brakes will clamp evenly on both sides, the benefit would be negated.
The first 2 are the same landrover 90 the 3 and old discovery they all need to use diff lock this is what its their for , unbelievable how many people buy 4x4 and can't drive ,
+mightymikee Not that sure about that, since parking brake works on the center differential, not on the wheels (at least in my 1992 2.5 petrol defender)
+Sebastián Frerk You are right. I forgot rovers have parking brake at the rear output shaft. Well, logic still applies, rear wheels spin, then give power to the front by locking the rear.
yeah, it would still work like a center diff lock (kind of) but not too good I'm afraid, since it is not a disc brake, it's a drum brake. It'd still be better just to lock the diff
