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LANTERN COMPLETE GUIDE | Lone Destruction: Shadowchaser | Honkai Impact 3rd 

Marisa Honkai
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LANTERN / TSAVORAE / AKARI / DEN COMPLETE GUIDE | Lone Destruction: Shadowchaser | Honkai Impact 3rd
0:00 Intro
1:22 Abilities - DPS
4:24 Abilities - Support
6:05 Rank Up
6:30 Equipment
7:36 Lineup
8:55 How to Play Lantern DPS - S0 Thelema Support
10:36 How to Play Lantern DPS - S2 Thelema Support
11:28 How to Play Lantern DPS - Coralie Support
12:34 How to Play Senadina DPS
13:56 Lantern DPS vs RPC
15:36 Lantern DPS vs Mobius
17:20 Elysian Realm
18:03 Conclusion
Supplementary Guide: • Thelema Guide - 10/10 ... Thelema Guide (has explanation on Wheel of Destiny mechanic and Senadina support
For other guides, check out the Guide Playlist: • Honkai Impact Guide or check out my Hoyolab www.hoyolab.com/accountCenter...
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BGM: Boxing Miku, ZZZ BGM, Lantern Boss Battle
Outro: Soft Heavy Hands - Mood2Go4E
The mmd Lantern at intro is from www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ox4...
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Game: Honkai Impact 3rd, from miHoYo / Hoyoverse, the same developer as Genshin Impact and Honkai: Star Rail
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@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Support Lantern stuff only relied on dmg test and multiplier calculations, because we actually still don't have live data on her supporting Sena or Thelema signature boss yet in Abyss. UPDATE: In Thelema DPS team, you can start the rotation with Lantern > Trigger firepower rotation > Ult (because ult also applies fire shower buff) > qte to Thelema. Supplementary Guide: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O-gIiHYQtMI.html Thelema Guide (has explanation on Wheel of Destiny mechanic and Senadina support For other guides, check out the Guide Playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLEFjMtmQPRPskPSdqPCfYB5C8Gt3ejsCl or check out my Hoyolab www.hoyolab.com/accountCenter/postList?id=1021101
@joaomoreno307
@joaomoreno307 Месяц назад
I finally understood what is happening with all theses DPS/support characters and I actually like what is happening? I mean, we now have supports that work not for the elements but for the Stellar Outburst style. I was becoming really worried that I should need to pull for each and everyone of them, but I can actually skip characters now without losing too much. This was not really possible back then. It's really nice to see that every character now can be a support to one another even if not in the best way.
@xGui2008
@xGui2008 Месяц назад
WoW Part 2 requires a full post-grad study and you nailed it. Thank you so much. I'm on my way to repeat your rotations :)
@monkeydluffy5054
@monkeydluffy5054 Месяц назад
It always good to see new character guide from you
@Lance_Max
@Lance_Max Месяц назад
Thanks for the guide! After 3 S-rank patches back-to-back, I’m definitely not able to save enough crystals for Lantern *for now*. I’m going to save them for 7.6, and hoping that Lantern will have a rerun next patch.
@lonk7596
@lonk7596 Месяц назад
Make that 4 S-rank patches back to back with 7.6 💀
@Lance_Max
@Lance_Max Месяц назад
@@lonk7596 Mhy should give us free S-rank in 7.7 then 😭😭😭
@edward-byanyothername
@edward-byanyothername Месяц назад
​@@Lance_Max they better, because this is getting ridiculous
@randomdude4730
@randomdude4730 Месяц назад
​@@lonk7596Make that 5 because Sena came after Fu Hua fov
@Lance_Max
@Lance_Max Месяц назад
@@randomdude4730 too many S-ranks I’ve started to lose count 🤣
@rmelzhim6033
@rmelzhim6033 Месяц назад
You are a legend for making these detailed and incredibly helpful videos. Bless you, and may you only ever experience happy days.
@btxbtxbtxbtxbtx
@btxbtxbtxbtxbtx Месяц назад
Very helpful guide as always Love the conclusion section at the end I really hope we get Vita soon...
@focalors_furinaa
@focalors_furinaa Месяц назад
Holy fast Lantern guide! Thank you Moriso-san!
@RaykinaBreaker
@RaykinaBreaker Месяц назад
its been a while since last time I properly reviewing valkyrie guide. Though I still confuse with rotation but at least I understand the different support/dps role for Part 2 valkyrie.
@user-vu8hp4ym1v
@user-vu8hp4ym1v Месяц назад
niceee been lookin for lantern guide
@rickvex427
@rickvex427 Месяц назад
Amazing guide as always
@reijikaslana5747
@reijikaslana5747 Месяц назад
Damn marisa is very quick with lantern guide
@sfmnightmarebonnie4273
@sfmnightmarebonnie4273 Месяц назад
"Must be Vita, cus the comment section said she will come at v6.8, 6.9. 7.0...etc" dont call out my copium like that, Moriso
@FrostyPeppercorn
@FrostyPeppercorn Месяц назад
unfortunately its not Vita but what we are getting is pretty good.
@cnydo
@cnydo Месяц назад
literally me lol
@BNuts
@BNuts Месяц назад
I guess Vita is the new Seele / Raven.
@MrNovo05
@MrNovo05 Месяц назад
Thank you for your very descriptive Lantern guide. It is very useful. I always wonder why Sena is kept in the background. Now I got the answer.
@Nikorasu737
@Nikorasu737 Месяц назад
Thank you so much for the guide! I just pulled Lantern, and plan to pull for Songque. Past that I’m going to take a break from the valks since after songque I’ll have 4 teams built w/ part 2 valks (new player)!
@nurhariyanto4788
@nurhariyanto4788 Месяц назад
don't forget to rest well mate.. u are always working hard on this..
@colorlessguard
@colorlessguard Месяц назад
wow what a detailed guide!! thank you, i was wondering if anything about Thelema's rotation changed by swapping out Coralie for Lantern, glad to have an answer :)
@phillipjfry105
@phillipjfry105 Месяц назад
nice guide thanks
@chibibun4275
@chibibun4275 Месяц назад
Is there any guide on what stigmata I should prioritize to max? I'm kinda short on cubes for upgrade.
@Justin-xk7yj
@Justin-xk7yj Месяц назад
What about for light spenders (monthly+bp) like me who has all the Part 2 valks?
@eff-fume
@eff-fume Месяц назад
Got lucky and got her a bit early. Didn't plan to commit to part 2 characters, but the new mechanics and playstyles are just way too fun and fresh to resist. I will try for her weapon, got lucky and got full stig set in a 10 pull. She is sick. Already is doing more damage than all my other fire dps (doesn't say too much, my fire teams have been the worst on my acc in comparison), I always hate fire content, so she is a much needed character for me.
@ChiriKain
@ChiriKain Месяц назад
18:34 thanks! this is what i needed to know, im saving this patch and ill get suzume-chan on 7.6 so she can team up with thelema-sama.
@alenxadro_patro
@alenxadro_patro Месяц назад
Any suggestion who to pull? Im just comeback from retire and stop on horb be4... what new valk should be pull just to survive?
@sharkjoe5358
@sharkjoe5358 Месяц назад
How come Lantern Guide came out so quickly but not Thelema? 😂
@JohnSmith-ri2ed
@JohnSmith-ri2ed Месяц назад
Thelema rotations are very complicated, lantern is hold a
@Ngawfah
@Ngawfah Месяц назад
What a “I’m real lets get married owo” does to moriso
@shinhikaru
@shinhikaru Месяц назад
Thelema is much more complicated and Marisa was also making videos for ZZZ Beta as well.
@Proxy606
@Proxy606 Месяц назад
@@Ngawfah😂
@Mantismobius
@Mantismobius Месяц назад
Fr
@evexcefgame
@evexcefgame 3 дня назад
Hi Marisa! When do you plan to do complete guide of Songque? Hope it will be released before next week reset. Thanks!
@yuuutsunoyuushou
@yuuutsunoyuushou Месяц назад
At 9:35 Lantern uses ultimate but it is not described in the text ("first rotation"). Could you explain what does it mean please?
@shinhikaru
@shinhikaru Месяц назад
Usually after Combo Attacks she uses Ultimate because apparently her combo attack buffs her ULT slightly. Either Marisa is tired and forgot or because he's fighting Mobius the rotation is a bit different.
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Thanks for noticing that. I should have included that there. But Ult is flexible.
@Classfied1
@Classfied1 Месяц назад
I don't have Helia's signature weapon. Do you think I can try to pull Lantern's and give it to Helia?
@cnydo
@cnydo Месяц назад
Losing 42000 crys is the worst scenario if you're unlucky in pulling. Right after Thelema I don't think any F2P player would have that amount of crys to pull Lantern
@HandOn145
@HandOn145 Месяц назад
if I don't have sena but have thelema should I slot in coralie or helia? Helia is without signature weapon
@Frostyknight627
@Frostyknight627 Месяц назад
I think Coralie would be better than Helia, especially since she doesn't have her signature weapon.
@ahmadsial78
@ahmadsial78 Месяц назад
I've been saving up for Lantern ever since I found out she was a fire dps, since I don't have a fire dps😑
@Frostyknight627
@Frostyknight627 Месяц назад
When did you start playing?
@allowevera4967
@allowevera4967 Месяц назад
Do we know how many crystals we get this patch? Just trying to plan things out for 7.6
@AnimeWineAuntie
@AnimeWineAuntie Месяц назад
Between Lantern and Thelema, which one do you think benefits more greatly from their weapon? I have both of their foundry weapons Synergy III, and I doubt I will be lucky enough to get both of their weapons.
@lx_kim
@lx_kim Месяц назад
should i pull for her or just wait for songque/theleme rerun??
@mintymint1206
@mintymint1206 Месяц назад
😢 Can anyone tell me the BGM at 6:30 onward pls? I cant find it even after reading description.
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Its from ZZZ, unfortunately not all zzz ost are up on youtube yet
@potatom2765
@potatom2765 Месяц назад
Can you help me if i just skip lantern a futre physical valk can be used with my thelema and seandina? I pull for the oporators i got bad luck on lantern hanner and have 10 pity left but i dont want to continue pulling i have thelema though
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
The physical dps can still work without lantern. Sure might be less dmg than lantern support, but should still work fine.
@redcyclone9431
@redcyclone9431 Месяц назад
how can i get "im real" meme at 0:07
@valhein09
@valhein09 Месяц назад
Can i go her with thelema and coralie? I don't have senadina 😢
@Keroltor
@Keroltor Месяц назад
Is there any alternative to Sena? I don't have her and I feel like her being so essential is gonna make me quit the game... Why do I HAVE to get this specific limited S-rank to make any part 2 team work, I just wanna play Lantern 😭
@j0hnnyblade
@j0hnnyblade Месяц назад
I feel you. Every patch new s-rank, Sena wasn’t proposed as a HoTr-tier support but a lightning dps after Luna. The way part 2 is trying to shape is interesting but this early transitional period sure is something Just hope imminent physical dps won’t create content immune to elements
@Xcelsia
@Xcelsia Месяц назад
Seriously. Every single Part 2 team being gatekept if you don't have Senadina was a horrible design choice by Hoyo. Making an entire roster of new characters completely dependent on ONE specific unit should never be a thing. It literally locks you out of playing the new Astral Ring teams that Hoyo is forcing us to use, since they're tailoring all competitive content (Memorial Arena, Abyss, etc...) to Part 2 characters. Part 1 valkyries just can't compete anymore (except for maybe Luna, because she's just THAT ridiculous).
@Keroltor
@Keroltor Месяц назад
@@Xcelsia it would be fine if they gave her away by completing the first chapter of the story (like it's done in some other gachas) or if the necessary character was an A-rank farmable valk, but locking part 2 teams behind Sena is so bad, even if it is temporary, it shouldn't have been a thing to begin with. I don't even like her that much, I don't wanna pull for a character I don't like the design or personality just because she's mandatory...
@Xcelsia
@Xcelsia Месяц назад
@@Keroltor I feel you. It sucks big-time. She doesn't appeal to me, either. The Part 2 cast in general is really lackluster. I honestly don't have any interest in them or the story, which is a shame because the story & characters used to be the best thing about HI3. Now it's just a slog that I force myself to play through for the rewards.
@liahonkai2024
@liahonkai2024 Месяц назад
Nice guide! But I cannot open HI3 still now(Europe). Can you help me with information?
@ODINSON_22
@ODINSON_22 Месяц назад
got her 2nd spin im so happy had like 80pity left too
@A_Potato42
@A_Potato42 Месяц назад
Thanks for the amazing guide but I am playing coralie support and I don't have songque.If that is the case then what would one normal rotation of mine look like ?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
You just stay on the field longer as Lantern.
@hanspe8997
@hanspe8997 Месяц назад
If Thelema DPS, Sena+Lantern support, sena never switch in, and lantern just do combo and ulti if possible then switch Thelema in ?
@mvk15
@mvk15 Месяц назад
2:20 Damn, when was the last time i saw a legit rocket jump in anything? Like 2010?
@Ricemachinex
@Ricemachinex Месяц назад
got weapon first 5 pull then crafted the 2 gears then used free stigma selector, god bless
@jeavenrosana861
@jeavenrosana861 Месяц назад
I randomly got lantern for some reason on a 1 pull but i dont have thelema😢 i have senadina tho idk idk if tht cn work😭
@user-ix9yu8jf4w
@user-ix9yu8jf4w Месяц назад
thelema might be best support physicial for songque the otp so real
@NightBagoly13
@NightBagoly13 Месяц назад
"lose 50% damage without senadina" me with no sardine: "i mean its alright i guess"
@AdamJorgensen
@AdamJorgensen Месяц назад
I had no idea about the lost TDMG buff when you switch to Sena. Does this apply to Thelema teams using her as a support to?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Yes, this applies when Sena is supporting any wheel-of-destiny dps. The skill description for this has been added in 7.5, (astral ring subskill), check it out in game.
@AdamJorgensen
@AdamJorgensen Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai Nice, thanks for the head-ups. Man, with this it kinda feels like Hoyo are returning to the support style of characters like Haxxor Bunny and Starlit Astrologos. What's old is new again 🙂
@snell9652
@snell9652 Месяц назад
Every patch I hate more and more Senadina because of how mandatory she is and she never comes
@MisterMacabre12
@MisterMacabre12 Месяц назад
I have Sena, Helia and Coralie all with full gears, i am thinking if i want to pull for Thelema next or not, i am already sure I will be pulling for physical dps Songque.
@Sergio-gy3il
@Sergio-gy3il Месяц назад
for affixes, it is better atk of fire damage? I know that normally atk is better, but with luna lightning damage was better because of her high hit count so I dunno if lantern fall in the same category.
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Full ATK for Lantern
@Sergio-gy3il
@Sergio-gy3il Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai ok, thanks
@hiirozero3623
@hiirozero3623 Месяц назад
17:53 i like to use setuna 1 with the ult reset. It just more fun DA WARUDO every 3 seconds
@amandabarylski9961
@amandabarylski9961 Месяц назад
I was thinking about getting her even though I'm currently F2P because my current fire team is Bad. SS 4/4 Sirin can only do so much when her supports are 0/4 Ai and 3/4 Kira (wep & 2 stigs). But should I try for Ai gears instead?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Don't use crystal for Part 1 stuff anymore. Just wait for them to be added in spending event exchange or battle pass
@amandabarylski9961
@amandabarylski9961 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai Okie! Redoing my calculations I realized I couldn't guarantee both Lantern and her weapon so I just did a few ten pulls to see if she'd come home early. Guess I'm a few ten pulls closer to Songque!
@tlfm1
@tlfm1 Месяц назад
Hello. I'm a returnee new player something like that? Level 32 do you recommend me pulling for her?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
No. Just save and wait july 25 for next valk and see if you have crystal for valk and weapon
@arodnap4665
@arodnap4665 Месяц назад
Why in 1st rotation, after thelema use combo att, my lantern qte is still on cd ?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Turn off thelema qte toggle
@moherx2651
@moherx2651 Месяц назад
Too bad I'm never pulling Sena I guess my Lantern will be scuff forever but Waifu>Meta as always
@himalkanwar77
@himalkanwar77 Месяц назад
Who pull for meta hi3 I never pull for meta in honkai impact
@RealAstroWhale
@RealAstroWhale Месяц назад
@@himalkanwar77there are some people who do, just to keep up with the abyss. Because it’s impossible to clear Exalted Agony III and up with old and outdated valkyries. They’re tailored for stronger valkyries who could consistently drop nuke numbers or have an insane SP recharge rate.
@himalkanwar77
@himalkanwar77 Месяц назад
@@RealAstroWhale I was just sarcastic because in hi3 there no male character so if u pull for meta it's still is a waifu so hi3 is always waifu over meta
@chandrawardana6620
@chandrawardana6620 Месяц назад
My bro how u didnt take sena when she is the main character like kiana😂
@varlnova1103
@varlnova1103 Месяц назад
Meta is temporary, waifu is eternal
@user-mn3xy5ou5o
@user-mn3xy5ou5o Месяц назад
Fun fact: lantern can illuminate areas with fog by creating a small area around you and you don't take damage from it, just because. she's realy like a lantern❤❤❤
@Zach-zf1fd
@Zach-zf1fd Месяц назад
I think im gonna wait until songue s rank out. I want to see her abilities and skill 1st. Cause lantern skill like vill v(gun or firepower) that i already have, im curious about songque weapon. Hope the video will coming soon.
@xDevilishes
@xDevilishes Месяц назад
9:46 doesn't work for me after i use moment of indulgence lantern has 1-2 sec cooldown and no QTE comes in
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Turn off Thelema’s QTE toggle
@ChopPieDezz
@ChopPieDezz Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai Wait does that work for other teams in general, like turning the QTEs off reduces the switch cooldown or something? This is the first time i'm seeing this
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Switch cd is longer if you enter with QTE
@ChopPieDezz
@ChopPieDezz Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai Oh, I see, thanks
@nofalucifer9883
@nofalucifer9883 Месяц назад
So lantern can dominan for DPS or SUPPORT
@torabika2676
@torabika2676 Месяц назад
dont have helia full equipment. can i use sena dps with thelema and lantern as support?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Helia is a resonance generator + triggerer + buffer. You keep her in the team. Use Sena + Helia + Thelema
@torabika2676
@torabika2676 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai so is it okay without her weapon? just her stigma
@tama_12a757
@tama_12a757 Месяц назад
so future physical valk can works with sena and thelema? I can sleep in peace i think
@slaire6892
@slaire6892 Месяц назад
That's some omega stellar drain tech, also is Thelema actually complex or have sweat too much?
@shuttlesnake5119
@shuttlesnake5119 Месяц назад
Yo, can i use lantern to replace helia for senadina? Since i didn't get her weapon for saving (also didn't get lucky)
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
No, Lantern does not generate domain resonance mark. The mark is a dps itself during SO, and helia herself buffs the mark and senadina.
@shuttlesnake5119
@shuttlesnake5119 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai so, what should i do? Helia is the only thing i get in her banner, and i don't even have part 1 valk support
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Check out my Senadina guide. Her team is sena helia and coralie. Helia and coralie are f2p. Coralie entire gears are f2p. Helia can work without weapon. If you have Lantern weapon you can use it on Helia for more atk. If you want to replace someone with Lantern, replace Coralie with Lantern. Check out Lantern guide for more details.
@shuttlesnake5119
@shuttlesnake5119 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai alright, thanks
@13thdarkness3
@13thdarkness3 Месяц назад
i hope we get a replacement for sena i skiped her for thelma
@Honkaicunny
@Honkaicunny Месяц назад
It feels like her skill set is better than it was in the beta test 🤔
@ninjaugal3832
@ninjaugal3832 Месяц назад
7:11 "part 2 stigma drop is crazy" : well yes. In before we have headache because its easier to get (multiple) signature weapon and hard to have complete stigmatas. Now its reversible. 😂
@Celestial-yq6hz
@Celestial-yq6hz Месяц назад
I didn’t pull for Sena or Thelema, so I thought if I was gonna have a part 2 Valk, it’ll have to be Lantern 😅
@hafidzbaihaqi8423
@hafidzbaihaqi8423 Месяц назад
What affixes does she use? Atk?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
full atk
@nhatleminh3111
@nhatleminh3111 Месяц назад
Is turn off thelema qte in lantern team a good choice?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Yes. If you turn it on, and you enter via QTE, your switch cd will be much longer.
@nhatleminh3111
@nhatleminh3111 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai thanks for advice :))
@satyayana1399
@satyayana1399 28 дней назад
HoHe record (5 multi) finally surpassed lantern took me 8 multi pull to get
@reversal3628
@reversal3628 Месяц назад
7:44 me with no Onya of truth. I've seen the highest high!! When I'm down at the lowest low Wooooohhhh
@shinhikaru
@shinhikaru Месяц назад
I'm positive 7.6 will be the Physical Astral Ring Valk, since Lantern and surprisingly Coralie has good buffs for Physical. I will skip her this version as I'm using it as a saving patch, but since Thelema amd Senadina got reruns extremely fast I might pull her in 7.6 along with the new Valk. Thelema literally drained my Xtals really bad this version.
@ckizz
@ckizz Месяц назад
does it affect alot if i skip her
@Engene702
@Engene702 Месяц назад
Yep not as a DPS but a support she has crit and physical buffs and songque’s support
@joeharry1633
@joeharry1633 Месяц назад
Her guide came out faster than Thelema, LoL
@bombgameing
@bombgameing Месяц назад
Marisa mentioned real life problems as the reason for delay, usually hes guides come out on day 1 of the update so im sure it was serious
@WAVE00799
@WAVE00799 Месяц назад
I am f2p and i dont have thelema, should i pull her?
@koalatoysstation4749
@koalatoysstation4749 Месяц назад
I think Thelema will come back at the end of this 7.5 ver
@KifuneRaika
@KifuneRaika Месяц назад
They still haven't changed senadina's astral ring skill right?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Still the same
@KifuneRaika
@KifuneRaika Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai I have been spamming that cs button for so many times now and still.....
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Hold on. It's fixed in live patch!
@Sinon0017
@Sinon0017 Месяц назад
so lantern thelema and coralie work in theory.. but its extremely fucky right?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Yeah see 3:23 20% dmg difference, and in abyss, coralie support gets around 78x while thelema support gets 82x against Mobius 481D
@Sinon0017
@Sinon0017 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai AH awesome I'll just play that then
@flandre519
@flandre519 Месяц назад
marisa can i use aslaug on her
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
It’s garbage for her and in today’s standards.
@nevermore2474
@nevermore2474 Месяц назад
so basically, all these new characters are reliant on each other?
@MisterMacabre12
@MisterMacabre12 Месяц назад
I wish Lantern wasn't so boring to use and they made her as fun as Vill V
@ezh3014
@ezh3014 Месяц назад
even if im not f2p seems like a skip for me honestly
@hii2692
@hii2692 Месяц назад
I'm f2p but I won't skip her considering that ver 7.6 will come out physical dps
@ezh3014
@ezh3014 Месяц назад
@@hii2692 that may be the case, but i think if i have to ill just use HoRb as support. There's no point in pulling for every S rank every patch if they are gonna continue down this route.S-ranks back to back to back is crazy, i think ill just pull for waifus instead of maybe getting 100 extra points in abyss + lantern playstyle just seems boring to me.
@Thinhago
@Thinhago Месяц назад
Well its kinda disappointing that i was planning on skipping lantern to get Songque but lantern will be next best sup for her, i was hoping new A-rank to support but no deal for hoyo i guess
@manuel-wk2ms
@manuel-wk2ms Месяц назад
I don't have senadina or thelema or bronya so it's my turn to coraline and ai chan xd
@david_ace
@david_ace Месяц назад
all my pull for her, if i dont get her, that's not a drama. i can still skip next valk 👀
@MisterMacabre12
@MisterMacabre12 Месяц назад
I would pull for her but i don't like her outfit or even like using her bc she's boring to use.
@itsmepamz2477
@itsmepamz2477 Месяц назад
In my case: - No Sena (but already 4/4-ed her gears) - No Thelema - No Lantern - S-rank Songque will come in next version What valk should I pull? Currently running Lantern's banner, waiting for Thelema in week 4/5, waiting Senadina rerun, or save more crystal for S-rank Songque?
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Bad time to start also why no sena but have her gears? Then get Sena. Save 30k crystal worth of pulls and wait for next s rank
@itsmepamz2477
@itsmepamz2477 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai So, S-Rank Songque is the answer 🤔
@itsmepamz2477
@itsmepamz2477 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai Answering your question, my Valkyrie/Expansion supply luck is always bad. Almost every S-rank from Empyrea until Herrscher Team (except for Luna, I got her on first 10 pull) I need 14-20k crystals at very minimum to safely pull them. So, I decided to just pull her gear.
@iiikirishimaiii1882
@iiikirishimaiii1882 Месяц назад
Honestly a total skip. For her to be optimal you really need Senadina or Thelema because she can't extend Rondo duration unlike Thelema, which is why it's a little funky when Coralie is used instead of Thelema/Senadina while Thelema doesn't have this problem at all. Her main selling point is that she can buffs Physical Astral Ring Valks as a support due to her giving Crit Buffs but then again for F2Ps she already have a replacement that won't make her extremely clunky to use, as Thelema and Senadina can still buffs Physical and gives max Rondo Buffs if said Physical Valk is using Wheel of Destiny, and Coralie can be used as well if said Physical Valk is using World Star. As for her bosses, from what I've tested in Beta. Most if not all her bosses are brute force-able. Stellar RPC with Thelema DPS or Senadina DPS. Fire Mobius, Fire Heimdall and Fire Tank with HoF or Sirin. Type Kasumi with HoF or HoHE, Ranged Tank with HoHE or MPE. SSS Mobius is the hardest one but other Valks like HoF, Luna, HoHE, or HoRb DPS can be used as well.
@lainarc
@lainarc Месяц назад
we wanted a save patch and well....we have it
@fernandasavazzini67
@fernandasavazzini67 Месяц назад
I only have Sirin (fully geared), but no HoF, and no ranged dps actually. I was kinda hyped for Lantern as a non HoF haver, (HoFi without her signature stigmata), but it seems like she still isn't the valk I've been waiting for/needing, although I have DsA fully geared (her trio too) and a weaponless Thelema... In my case, should I skip her?
@pokaymanstar1000
@pokaymanstar1000 Месяц назад
So many detailed info arigato. Her name is DEN now?
@ConVit-pf3tu
@ConVit-pf3tu Месяц назад
its đèn in vietnamese
@ConVit-pf3tu
@ConVit-pf3tu Месяц назад
đèn mean lantern
@BaoPham2
@BaoPham2 Месяц назад
how does bro make the guides so fast
@Deadrocky
@Deadrocky Месяц назад
He has beta access and a Asia account (Asia is always one patch ahead of Global)
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 Месяц назад
March 8th?!
@proshazkler
@proshazkler Месяц назад
F2P currently, said I didn't need her but tried 2 10-pulls and got her on 21 somehow, so guess I'm building 😂. I was saving for the phys dps that might come after cuz my 2/4 dudu just ain't doing shit. Well guess I'll cry if they announce physical right after her 😭😭 (pls tell me they won't)
@proshazkler
@proshazkler Месяц назад
oh okay, didn't see it's gonna be songque 😭
@Proxy606
@Proxy606 Месяц назад
No way I watched this video just so I don’t have her😭
@weeb5222
@weeb5222 Месяц назад
who stronger? lantern or sirin
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Lantern is better
@weeb5222
@weeb5222 29 дней назад
@@MarisaHonkai on a free to play perspective, is she better?
@angelingelheM
@angelingelheM Месяц назад
The new rotations are quite complicated
@eris3389
@eris3389 Месяц назад
i dont understand the elysian realm part i litterrqly take the same signet as you and i do maybe 10 times less damage than you i have her level 80 with her weapon level 60
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
There are other stuff that affect your damage such as ATK affix, emblems. Check out this Coralie ER guide, which shows some general info to take note in ER mode. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VKmIv-EQmsY.html
@eris3389
@eris3389 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai okay thank you a lot ^^
@MarisaHonkai
@MarisaHonkai Месяц назад
Hey forgot to mention. ER buffs havent been updated for Lantern yet. Wait this monday
@eris3389
@eris3389 Месяц назад
@@MarisaHonkai yeah i noticed that when i tried but watching your vids and learning a little more i was able to do it in difficulty 2 and almost finished 2.25 but wasn't able to, but at least i went farther this time ^^
@snackeetah2627
@snackeetah2627 Месяц назад
So... if you did skip Thelema, it's kinda no use to pull Lantern? Thelema is a better support for Sena and their peak is all three of them in the same team. She's POTENTIALLY might be better for future characters, but you have to be sure you'll have enough to pull for them too (and there's no guarantee you'll like these future characters) so pulling for her is... well, conclusion: it's never easy to be a filthy f2p.
@claves.4590
@claves.4590 Месяц назад
i have a full flamescion and her team , is worth the investment for her or can i stay with my flamescion ? I see many vids and in many flamescion still do very well compared to her ( 716 vs 706) . Should i skip her ?
@Xcelsia
@Xcelsia Месяц назад
So basically if you don't have Senadina, you're screwed. The fact that she's necessary in every single Part 2 team is extremely dumb. Kneecapping the entirety of the Part 2 roster due to one single character was a terrible design choice. I really hope that Hoyo introduces characters in the future that can serve as a replacement for her, because making every currently released character reliant on her is ridiculous. Though honestly, the back-to-back-to-back-to-back S-Rank characters every patch since Garuda Fu Hua is also ridiculous. Normal players can't keep up with this, making it even MORE difficult to actually build a fully viable Part 2 team. Which Hoyo is making necessary with tailoring all competitive content toward Part 2 characters and moving away from Part 1 teams. I can't say I'm a fan of the direction that Hoyo is taking things.
@josephmadrid6883
@josephmadrid6883 Месяц назад
I didn't understand anything, i really hate this dps/supp characters and everything is very messy with the AR system, I enjoy playing lantern with bronya and ai than thelema and sena,
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